/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

>>193154
>>193155
Got those images sort of back to front didn't you.
Also not all of those characters are playable, regardless thanks for posting them.

//youtube.com/watch?v=5qw3nVl2iAI
Roster and Costume video, obvious spoilers

A little thing thats rather interesting in this is that Ginyu has a costume that is Goku with a Scouter while Goku has a costume that is Ginyu.
Just an interesting way to do that thing instead of what you would expect.

>>193159
>All of those duplicate costumes on the same character. Goku alone has like 4 variations of his ripped gei, and Vegeta has no pink shirt
>for_what_purpose.jpg

>>193163
Actually for one thing Goku has similar variations on his Gi because they are being accurate to the show.
Each of them are the same overall martial-arts outfit but have different symbols to represent the different masters he trained under.

Also the different 'costumes' for the series characters are not just costumes, they also have different stats and special moves, another reason Goku has so many to himself.

>>193164
I get they're being show accurate, but it still feels kind of lazy and that they could have done a little more with the costume/ alt move concept. For one aside from the "super evil" versions of some characters, there aren't any specific alternate timeline ones.
This could have lead to some pretty interesting things and it feels like a completely missed opportunity.

Also in regards to many characters having outfits extremely similar to others, but having different strengths and moves, this can create some battlefield confusion especially in 2v2 or 3v3 matches. Due to the core nature of the game, this shouldn't be too problematic, but it is worth noting in my opinion.


Also the game already has an infinite: Super Saiyan then Deathball spam. If you're hit once it's game over. (super armor while charging it seems, plus another can be charged while one is already out. Also it tracks, is huge, and has a ton of hitstun.) The good news is that you can beat it by simply running away in a circle around the attacked until SSJ runs out.

Speaking of Xenoverse does anyone know the details of how the "Mentor" system is going to work for your original character?

>>193170
From what I've seen, it looks like they're divided into two factions: Hero and Villain. No idea if you can train under both or if you have to define your alignment.
As far as mechanics go, it looks like they give quests and the more things you do for them the more that gets unlocked including exclusive moves. I do not know if they are unlocked for purchase or if they are simple earned and do not need to be bought.

They can also show up and assist you during story missions or power up attacks in those missions.

Money, unlocked accessories, and even moves seem like they carry over between characters as well.

>>193184
You can only have 12 mentors at a time, but your mentor unlock things go to all your characters so no need to worry about grinding Goku more than once for instance.

Also some mentors are apparently very rare to encounter and will randomly spawn in the HUB city (or so it seems). Bills is among this rare breed with Goku being more uncommon.

>>193184
What do the bars and circles represent?

And is that 12 mentors total meaning per created characters or for everyone combined?

>>193190
Common sense says the circles are some kind of loyalty level and when the bar fills up, you have completed that level and will move onto the next.

Character Creation:
//youtube.com/watch?v=4ITgbrF_gnA

Mentor System:
//youtube.com/watch?v=TdcD8TGPOoQ

Voices including a special one:
//youtube.com/watch?v=sKWxRtn5-Yg

Full Roster:
//youtube.com/watch?v=5qw3nVl2iAI

All "playable" supers:
//youtube.com/watch?v=-X0Ekr1ze5o

All Known CaC Sayian moves:
//youtube.com/watch?v=g52kEJs5SAw
//youtube.com/watch?v=qRk6U0AHFVs
//youtube.com/watch?v=rZ7kaaCHfnc

>>193225
Aww shit those Babylonian beards look fucking sweet.

>>193225
Anything looks better than Omen.

less than two weeks
//youtube.com/watch?v=BLvr6c58Y2k

>>193243
I enjoy seeing "Chrono" getting beat down repeatedly. Would only be better if it was the Egyptian cat.

http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/12/dragon-ball-xenoverse-info-on-the-five-custom-character-races/

Skullgirls updates from tonight:
//youtube.com/watch?v=ykjOLoNoMv4

They also recorded and crowdsorced a crowd for some voice work on what's probably Beos arena stage. Also Beos voice actor was revealed as were Robos remaining normals and a first look at one of her mechanics.

>>193278
As long its after squidgirl its fine.
But how will you look FROM DIFFRENT ANGLES!

>>193279
>But how will you look FROM DIFFRENT ANGLES!

Monstrous my friend. Monstrous.
Hell, that could be the level 3 super: Darkside of the Monster.
Pink Floyd reference! Get It?!

>Robo-Fortune
- Hey look, it's Robo-Fortune! She has all her normals and both ground and air throws, so here she is! Welcome her with open arms and cynical nitpicking of everything, like usual. :^)

>General
- Removed non-interpolated rendering of opponent characters during super flashes on PC only. It's still there on consoles because it helps framerate, and has been there since the beginning.

>Beowulf
- Two new colors! Since I already said what they were, I won't repeat myself here. ;^)
- Moonsault wolves are now behind Beowulf; also fixed the lifebar not displaying health chunks for the first 3 hits. Thanks Kalaner!
- Improved effect for Blitzer, thanks Brian!
- Added missing frame for the end of taunt and command grab whiff.
- Fixed odd bug where if you successfully hit with Moonsault, it prevented Beowulf's team from being able to DHC into Airwulf for the rest of the game (unless you whiffed with another Moonsault). Thanks Sweetyfluff!

>Cerebella
- Damage adjustments:
- Kanchou 1400->1000.
- s.HK 625+725 -> 600+700.
- Pummel Horse 200*6 -> 175*6.
- j.D+MP 1000->800; j.HP 1000->950.

>Double
- Monster's puddle is now placed 180px in front of Double; attack startup from puddle after detecting opponent 9f -> 4f; detection area slightly smaller, attack area remains the same size.

>Eliza
- s.LP opponent knockup height returned to normal, hitstun still shorter.
- For Dive of Horus, Horace does not stop if Eliza is hit when she is the point character. He still stops if she is hit when she is an assists. 50% 66% scaling on hit still present.
- Fix bug where Throne of Isis sometimes wouldn't appear even though Eliza does the pose. Just summoning the attack was being counted as hitting with it. Thanks BDetective!
- Damage adjustments:
-- j.LK, s.HPx3 last hit (knockdown version), c.HK, all -150.
-- j.MK, s.HK 2nd hit, s.MK 3rd hit, all -100.
-- s.LK, c.LK, c.MK both hits, s.MKx2 chop, s.MP, all -50.
-- j.HK -25.
-- Sekhmet j.M -300, s.H -200, j.H -250.
Sample combo difference specifically using only the most-nerfed moves:
Sekhmet corner j.M->s.H, s.H, j.M->s.H, jump, falling j.L->j.M->s.H, s.M(all hits)->H, s.Lx3->M(all hits)->H = 9591->8088.

>Fukua
- Damage adjustments:
-- j.HK dmg 750->500, extra damage scaling removed.
-- (j.HK->)HP dmg 700->500.
-- j.HP dmg 900->800.
-- s.MP, c.MP, s.MK damage now all 550.

>Painwheel
- Unfly command returned to 2 punches / PP. Nobody really liked the other way, myself included.

Crap I missed some of the DLC by a large margin, fuck paying Five bucks now.

>>193317
The game has sales almost weekly on Steam. Just keep your eyes on the twitter. It's very easy to get the characters for under $2 if you wait.
And $5 is still better than ArcSys (for instance) which tend to charge around $8 a character.

//youtube.com/watch?v=B9JqcQgT3KY

All characters are in from the JP release.

//youtube.com/watch?v=knyixMmGr7k
Wonder if it will have Amiibo support.

>>193345
If they make the arcade cabinet have it. Might not be enough profit to make Amiibos that can only be used in an arcade cabinet(s) in Japan.

>>193342
Plague will be on board as well I think. Wonder if 4chan will summon him again for more art.

>>193348
Last /co/ saw of those two was that he had turned them into catgirls instead for a project that's totally not like 85% inspired by CoC. Also he said DBZ was stupid (and he's right, but it's part of the charm) so he's trying to distance things a bit.
Instead he'll probably ignore it and just draw more Katia after Kaz hospitalizes himself opening a bag of bread and misses two more months of updates.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/feb/19/arcsys-developing-2d-dragon-ball-fighting-game-dragon-ball-z-extreme-butoden-featuring-over-100-characters-coming-japan-summer/

>new 2D DBZ fighting game

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA—

>on 3DS

—ay?

>>193385
Who cares? DBZ fighters went downhill after Budokai 3.

>>193397
Xenoverse looks a lot better than Budokai 3.

Also this new game is developed by ArcSys so that's a plus. If it ever does get translated, I'll probably pick it up. The 3DS could really use a good handheld fighter. Last one Nintendo had was Bleach: Dark Souls.

//youtube.com/watch?v=KZUMC_awP5Q

Sure, Fuck yeah I'll take Kayako Saeki as a fighting game character.

Kim Wu, Eye Doll and Tusk are the three characters that I think are just gonna remain in limbo because they are....pretty terrible.

>>193406
I don't know why but the character concepts behind Xbone Killer Instinct remind me of Darkstalkers, what with stuff like firebeings, zombies, werewolves, and ghost chicks.

//youtube.com/watch?v=1cKCrSd3TcY

Watch all the way through

>>193409
Yeah, I really like that they are going this way.

http://www.mweb.co.za/games/ViewNewsArticle/tabid/2549/Article/18355/Dead-or-Alive-5-is-our-first-broken-game-for-2015-let-it-be-the-last.aspx

Not even ports are safe.

>>193459
Holy shitsnacks that looks amazing.

>>193459
Why's he a Frankentoon? I don't follow Street Fighter lore that much.

>>193462
He's the guy whose death basically starts Street Fighter, it's like Coulson dying in The Avengers, it's the death that glues a unified force against Bison together, he's Guile's trainer and though he was never actually in the games he was a top seed in the universe.

For example Bison, the main villain uses a bunch of science and magic to be one of the most powerful guys in the universe....Charlie could beat him with kicks, but (depending on which version) he is killed through an act deception by Bison and dies a hero which guides Guile to follow in his path.

To have him brought back as a subservient Frankenstein to use against Guile is like an ultimate "FUCK YOU" from Bison (at least I assume it's Bison who resurrected him.)

>>193463

>though he was never actually in the games

I guess the Alpha series doesn't count, then?

>>193464
Sorry, I glazed the exceptions, of there are some but usually he's dead.

>>193459
That design looks terrible

>>193466
It kinda should, it's Charlie as a Frankenstein, if he looked like a million bucks after be dead for, what 10 years plus? it would be extra lame.

>>193467

And that’s assuming Bison brought him back (which the trailer’s stinger would seem to hint at). The jewel in Charlie’s forehead makes me think there's a connection to the Illuminati—and thus to Gill.

>>193467
Except he looks JUST THE SAME except for the dumb blue chunk of his face and the the silly staples between them, you can't claim his body has rotted when that's the case.

>>193469
of course not, but I like Frankensein's so....obviously I'm pro this design.

Cassie Cage has some really good taunts.

//youtube.com/watch?v=UZuxlckaC4Q

>>193513
Yeah, they finally gave her some real importance.

Ok so Xenoverse... haven't had a chance to play it yet since I'm still trying to hunt down an operating system for my new PC, but there are some things already emerging...
first you collect all 7 then use that table http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5580578#5580578 to freeze materials/items and you can wish over and over without losing your balls

Trying to collect all 7 dragonballs is such complete bullshit, there's waaaaay too much random chance involved.

If you want to unlock everything you need to collect them something like 5+ times.

Protip for Mentors; watch these:
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2015/02/dragon-ball-xenoverse-learn-moves-with-masters-do-more-damage-with-z-assist/

Also you'll need to use their most recentl given skill a few times in battle before you can move on (this doesn't seem to apply for their special evasive skills though). You'll also want to to Parallel missions using them as an ally. Do all this and you should be able to easily rank up with your mentors.

>>193647
Are you grinding the same missions? I could swear I heard that the balls all have to come from different missions. There was a guy I was watching stream and he kept getting balls, but I guess they were all the same 4 balls so they didn't stack in his inventory or something.

Are you just missing the One Star and are getting non One Star balls or are balls just not dropping?

>>193651
Balls just aren't dropping at all, only the badges to be sold for cash. I've been mainly doing the stage where you have 5 minutes to beat freiza before namek explodes and if you beat him fast enough a time patrol guy shows up but I've been getting the same result on other stages, not to mention there's been one or two times where the CPU assistant has gotten the last hit on the patrol member and I've only gotten one badge too.

>Playing Ginyu Force on Earth mission
>Oh hey sweet a time patroller
>Beat his ass with ease
>Get goodies
>Proceed to get three moves and an equip
>Have my ass savagely beat by Ginyu and die
>"No biggie, I'll get rezed"
>Goku is literally just floating there 10 feet away not doing anything while Piccolo gets his ass beat and dies
>Goku attempts to then res Piccolo, gets beaten off, then comes over to me
>Dies right next to me
>Lose it all

Fast forward to later that night
>Mentor under Vegeta and grind him to max
>Final mission
>Doing well
>SSJ
>Ok fine, get a little beaten down, but I've got thi-
>SSJ2
>Full health
>Un targets
>Get comboed to death for free in 10 hits
>Ok fuck, now I know
>Restart
>itkeepshappening.jpg
>He's even using SSJ spam
>Ok Time to finally use items
>One of each healing item
>Still get stompped
>Ok ok ok... fuck. It's ok, I have a hidden power up in my pocket.
>Dip into my pool of 66 skill points
>Drop like 12 into my stats
>Still get mud stompped
>Level up twice just from ass beatings
>I've been at this single thing for over an hour
>ONE. MORE. TIME.
>Proceed to perfect Vegeta up until SSJ2 where he starts doing spam, but manage my Ki and Stamina well
>Lands a fist clash thing twice. Epic as shit
>My basic Ki blasts cut through his ki blast spams
>Stuns due to Frieza
>Start opening up cans of whoopass with Weekend Destroyer or whatever (some Raditz move that makes a purple explosion and stuns)
>Launch from that into juggle combos
>Land meaty combos and then go into resets
>Rinse and repeat
>NOWWERETALKEN.swf
>Vegeta calls off the ass beating and quits mid combo
>Rage

Thank you you smug son of a bitch... you taught me how to git gud.

Xenoverse is great but the later missions putting you against multiple opponents who can all spam their ultimates freely is retarded.

Hand to hand becomes pointless, might as well respec and put all my points into ki blasts and spam back if I want to actually finish stages in any decent time, ar at all against some of them.

>>193661
Hmm... Best I can say is to make sure you land he last bit on the time cop. The game tends to prevent you from getting goodies when a computer does something instead of the player. Same sort of thing happens occasionally if an NPC kills off an enemy needed to trigger a "Warning" extra.

Also holy duck balls things just don't drop.
I spent over three hours farming godamn cibamen trying to get the last skill needed to have all the 1 stars.
The long grinds missions are the worst since they take forever and drops are uncommon in them to start with. It's akin to torture.

Xenoverse builds:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/323470/discussions/0/617329505859300058/

Actually starting to get worn down. I just can't deal with grinding the same mission for hours for a single drop that can only be triggered on an ultimate finish that never seems to trigger even through you do everything needed for it.

This all wouldn't be so bad if I could at least get into an online fight or team up.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Z11ceiVBoA8
Kayako Saeki/Sadako with a Nanigata. I'm more than okay with this.

Johnny Cage confirmed playable in MKX so rest easy knowing the best character NRS has ever done returns.

>>193740
Nope. I was hoping they'd pull a Third Strike here, but they're throwing in quite a few returning characters to I guess keep the game feeling like Mortal Kombat and bring in that brand recognition that those characters have. IE "no Reptile no buy"

>>193746
At least the characters returning are aged.

Find it hard to care about the story of mortal kombat with the level of bullshit its reached.

Even in the last installment which was supposed to be cutting out the fat and chaff with a time travel retcon it got really stupid, everyone being jobbed and then Raiden thinking it was a great plan to try making a deal to sell the souls of those who trusted him to Quan Chi.

Xenoverse Soul stuff:
http://pastebin.com/9YwCHJUs

Someone on 4chan is also working through number crunching and writing notes about how each super functions, its damage, and usage.

//youtube.com/watch?v=dsTTnYkdU9o

Awesome.

>>193775
I knew it was going to happen, but I was hoping they would have waited until MK13 to do it.
Can't get hype until I see gameplay though. His simplistic character design is going to feel really out of place in MK I think, just like how Freddy was last game and boy howdy did it not make sense for him to be there. Not to mention they totally dropped the ball on his moveset. "Hey here's a guy that is some sort of ghost that exists in dreems and murders teens there by warming and twisting himself and the dreamworld... ok now lets put him in MK and just have him throw claw glove projectiles."

>>193778
Yeah, Jason makes much more sense, I hope most of his moves are from the movies, spear gun projectile and Sleeping bag capture combos.

>>193778
MK is getting as bad as Soul Calibur for the stupid celebrity guest fighters gimmick.

>>193782
At least Jason is a character people actually want in MK.

So the dlc pack for Xenoverse just added two new mentors, and I still have 3 1/2 off the base game mentors still to train.
Its just using the techniques they give you and choosing them as support characters in Parallel Quests that raises their friendship right?

How rare is Beerus as a mentor? I saw him in passing but didn't talk to him since I was still in the middle of learning from cell, did I just pass up a gift from god and will be lucky to see him again any time soon?

>>193787
>How rare is Beerus as a mentor? I saw him in passing but didn't talk to him since I was still in the middle of learning from cell
nigga you dun fucked up, but cell's kind of rare too...

For mentor grinding, you don't even need the mentor with you, just score well on the quests. Bringing your mentor may raise their approval of you slightly higher, but I don't think its been proven yet. They do seem to gravitate towards you more and help knock off enemies attacking you or double team more frequently than normal however. They'll also give you Z boosts once in a while if you max them out.

As for using their skills, aside from evasive moves, you absolutely need to do that. I had 18 at max for the longest time and she wouldn't let me do her last mission, then I decided to just spam her latest attack a lot and eventually it opened up.

This weeks Skullgirls updates. Final stage revealed:
//youtube.com/watch?v=tovnjxCYdvk

//youtube.com/watch?v=dsTTnYkdU9o

MKX has its first guest character, available only in the Kombat Pack.

>>193800
If he gets Crystal Lake stage then I'm in. Double so if the stage fatality is him dragging them to the bottom.

>>193807
While you can't change the physical appearance of your characters or their stats without dragon balls, you can at least save costumes and move sets as presets you can pick from for each character.

>>193810
I'm aware you can have multiple costumes/movelists per character it isn't really helpful (and I already mess around using them anyway. I want to make at least 8+ more characters from scratch, including different bodies and names.

speaking of DBZ... http://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/philosophy/rza-dbz-black-men/

>>193854
Looking up to such badly written characters as representative of the journey of your race through history seems somewhat self-insulting though

Saiyans are quite frankly shit, especially Goku who is just a terrible character in Z that doesn't deserve to steal the spotlight back from every younger fighter who was supposed to surpass him and take over the role as protector of Earth.

>>193854
Uh, seeing as the original Saiyan race was portrayed as a group of cruel and barbaric imperialists, not to mention the atavistic simian motif, that might not be the most flattering comparison to make.

So the thing everyone expected happened... and also two things no one did:
//youtube.com/watch?v=cve4ye_25_E

Still not enough to get me interested in the clunkiness of MK or a current gen system.

>>193929
So DLC and nonsensical cameos galore? Yeah I can see why you'd be unimpressed.

//youtube.com/watch?v=aGaDqao99ZE
HAHA! Nice.

//youtube.com/watch?v=EZIaoAH15jY
Still hope Mileena new lips gets some sort of explanation.
Like she got real jelly one valentine's day or something.

new footage for the Japanese 3DS DBZ game:
//youtube.com/watch?v=0eH-0yOA834

Godamn what is with the Japanese cramming as much shit as possible into such a small space for all their advertising?
And while the outtro wasn't on the TV spot, you should never make it longer than the actual video I mean come on.

//youtube.com/watch?v=63q8picjUMM

I...don't really like Cinder face...or head...they did a WAAAAAAAAY better job turning Glacius into an actual thing.

Actually yeah it's just the face, his armor looks cool.

//youtube.com/watch?v=le4IuZp0G7I

Killing hippies with mind bullets.

//youtube.com/watch?v=UPGj1o2LLTk
That statue.

Man, Mileena most be so pissed.

Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butoden for the 3DS footage:
https://youtu.be/8ToWsG8i_s4

Also Beowulf for Skullgirls seems to be finished and L0 has apparently submitted the console patch for his update.

Full MKX Roster.


Returning Characters
Ermac
Jax
Johnny Cage
Kano
Kenshi
Kitana
Kung Lao
Liu Kang
Mileena
Quan Chi
Raiden
Reptile
Scorpion
Shinnok
Sonya Blade
Sub-Zero

New Characters
Cassie Cage
D'Vorah
Erron Black
Ferra & Torr
Jacqui Briggs
Kotal Kahn
Kung Jin
Takeda Takahashi

Non-playable Characters
Bo' Rai Cho
Baraka
Fujin
Jade
Kabal
Nightwolf
Rain
Sindel
Smoke
Stryker

DLC Characters
Goro
Jason Voorhees
Predator
Tanya
Tremor

>>194123
For being all about shake ups and new characters that is a pitiful display.

>>194133
...The Fuck are you talking about? Are you forgetting that the roster is 3X larger since each character has 3 movesets? How in the fuck is that a pitiful display?

Do you people want Armageddon again?

>>194134
They were touting that there would be a lot of mew characters and all that, but the bulk are returning. As for being 3x larger due to 3 styles... not buying that.
It's a difference of a slightly altered costume and damage plus and minus an attack or two.

>>194137
Well I disagree so I guess we're at an impasse.

>>194184
Yeah, Max makes a great hype man.

//youtube.com/watch?v=8xDhSpEFxlM

BEHOLD! THE MOST PERFECT TRAILER MUSIC EVER CHOSEN!

They know so perfectly who they are it's beautiful.

>>194192
It depresses me how many haters are in the comments. Because this trailer is awesome and the music is perfect.

>>194207
It's really weird, do they not think Mortal Kombat is Mortal Kombat?

>>194192
Eh, I have heard worse.
Yeah not a fan of that music type.

>>194218
Well MK HAS gotten just as, if not more popular than SF in recent years.

>>194220
I would argue in Western Culture it is FAR more well known than Street Fighter.

>>194221
pop culture i mean.

Mortal Kombat was a bigger figure in American fighting games than Street Fighter for maybe all of five minutes back in the nineties. In America, and nowhere else.

>>194224
In the 90's. But MK 9 and X are miles better than what the first 3 games ever did. I would also argue they're better, and more satisfying fighters than Street Fighter 4 or MvC 3.

>>194228

I can't speak for MKX, but I played MK9 and I thought it was just garbage as a fighting game. Shoddy hitboxes and bizarrely I satisfying presentation.

//youtube.com/watch?v=EyjhwEi_Qfg

//youtube.com/watch?v=DP6rZm9MbXY


Dat Mileena fatality

>>194261

>Don’t you owe me some sunglasses?

…fucking beautiful, NRS. Just…fucking…beautiful.

http://www.gamesradar.com/yoshinori-ono-says-street-fighter-5-pc-ps4/

>with Street Fighter 5, we have a fantastic opportunity to create something with a larger scope, a game that encompasses all that Street Fighter has become in the last few years, but which also expands on that to become something it has never been before as well. So now we want to create something that nobody is expecting. It’s going to be a title that caters to fans, of course, but one that also invites completely new players onto the scene. Street Fighter 4 was about reviving a passion. Street Fighter 5 is about growing that passion.”

What does it mean...

>>194304
Marketing.

>>194304
I wish this was the Streetfighter RPG that had been planned years ago

>>194307
Mortal Kombat's bullshit is unacceptable

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2015/04/14/mortal-kombat-x-features-microtransactions-for-easy-fatalites

>>194309

Woooooooooooow.

NRS, you likely knew people would get pissed off at you for all that microtransaction shit, and you did it anyway. I gotta hand you the Johnny Cage Brass Balls Award for that.

//youtube.com/watch?v=cZXSpJopli0

Reminder kids, don't preorder AAA games.

>>194314
Or anything for that matter

http://kotaku.com/meet-mortal-kombats-first-gay-character-1698060987

Neat.

>>194322
Oh the dude replacing Kang for this jaunt. The Bow Guy.

>>194322
I never thought Mortal Kombat of all series would communicate issues like homosexuality with nuance. Especially when you compare that to Dragon Age which does an admirable job on some issues but is hamfisted to high hell when it comes to characters like Dorian.

>>194324
Bioware's good with worldbuilding but their writing isn't really what I'd consider subtle.

>>194322

Huh. Well, that’s awesome. And NRS handled it with class and respect. And no ‘even for Mortal Kombat’ snipe here—they handled it better than a lot of other games/franchises have. (Now I half-expect Street Fighter V to add a gay character and somehow blatantly call attention to the fact.)

>>194326
Apparently for SF5 Capcom consulted with some trans groups on how to present Poison tastefully this time around. No idea if they they pulled it off well or not though.

>>194327

No, that happened during SFxT development, and the lessons learned probably carried over into Ultra SF4. Poison’s not even confirmed for SFV (yet).

>>194328
Whoops, my bad. Yeah meant SF4, though I guess this had been going on before that.

>>194327
Oh thats really cool of them. Aesthetically she's always been a pretty good fit with the rest of the Capcom titles of the sort so I don't think they're gonna suddenly dress her like a nun if anyone's concerned with that.

I think it all comes down to not doing the whole
>S-SHE USED TO BE A MAN?! *GULP*
>*puuuuke*

>>194330

Yeah, that's kinda what happened in SFxT’s early stages. From the SF Wiki:

>In early developments of Street Fighter X Tekken, footage was shown of Ryu and Chun-Li's win quotes to Poison (i.e. "Your looks really can be deceiving. I'll be careful not to fall into your trap" and "You're not very lady-like at all! I felt like I was fighting against a guy..." respectively). Other characters were later revealed to have quotes along the same lines, some even worse, including Kuma outright saying Poison smells like a man and doubting she's in any way a woman. Sometime after the footage was shown, a prominent LGBT rights group contacted Capcom about the dialog, stating that it was highly offensive, ignorant and insensitive towards trans individuals. Capcom agreed to change the quotes, leaving only Yoshimitsu's remark about her being a "freshly-recruited kunoichi", Craig Marduk's more vague comment that he doesn't sweat the small stuff and only cares that she's attractive, and Poison's mirror match quote where she tries to recall a song, "The something-or-other in the mirror", referencing Michael Jackson's "The Man in the Mirror."

>>194327
Street fighter is a game of stereotypes. This PC shit is getting out of hand. poison was fine as is, but I'm ready for full on ham handedness now. Funny that she should get special treatment while say T. hawk is apparently totally fine along with DJ.

>>194332
Naw, while those two are made of potentially offensive stereotypes nobody gives them shit in-universe and their traits aren't used to demean them, whereas for Poison it's not just the players but even the characters who tend to be "ewwww she has/had a dick gross" or "she's not really a woman" which is pretty closeminded stuff. A better comparison would've been if Deejay was like Sambo or if characters called him a lazy darkie after fighting her, or if male characters freaked out over Eagle supposedly hitting on them. I do agree T. Hawk needs to be changed though, quite a few Indigenous Americans and Mexicans can't stand him for a long time. Most Jamaicans I know are pretty cool with Deejay though.

>>194332

>This PC shit is getting out of hand.

Political correctness is for politicians. For everyone else, it's called "not being an asshole".

The whole "Poison's not a real woman" is the kind of shit transgendered people (as a whole group) face every day. Capcom recognizing that and pulling back on those types of lines in SFxT was a welcome gesture towards that particular community. Remember, they could've done away with all the hints of her (still canonically questionable) transgender status and had everyone refer to her in ways that didn’t even hint at her gender.

As for Dee Jay and T. Hawk: Dee Jay is an edge case (and >>194334 already explained why), though I'd agree that T. Hawk is far more of a broadly-drawn stereotype and needs an overhaul. But even so, that is Capcom's call to make, not mine. While I'd love to see a bit more cultural sensitivity on their part, I also understand that my desires alone won't trump Capcom’s design decisions. An organized effort to make Capcom change any character—from T. Hawk to Poison—would need to happen for any change to occur.

It’d be one thing if it was just a single character who was a known asshole that was mocking Poison's gender status. But when you have two of the franchise’s ‘heroes’ doing it, you really gotta wonder why that's necessary.

>>194334
>if characters called him a lazy darkie after fighting her
Shit, pretend that "her" is a second "him".

>>194332
>Street fighter is a game of stereotypes.
Thus
>Aesthetically she's always been a pretty good fit with the rest of the Capcom titles of the sort

Stereotypes are one thing, but even black characters in SF aren't treated with blackface or such.
And besides, if you really want to look at it right, T. Hawk could've possibly portrayed one of the northern native tribes such as the Tarahumaras, thus breaking the stereotype of Mexico's only natives being Mayans/Aztecs, given the northern part of that country was anthropologically very similar to America's south western native tribes. But then again, its not like it's not a stereotype either way. Apparently racial controversy gets ignored when it helps complain about another controversy.

>>194332
Just take off the mask already, this is about you not wanting games to frame mental illness as normality. Seen before, seen again.

>>194341
You sure? You'd say they'd want a little representation, don'tcha think?

>>194342
I doubt many people would qualify derogative comments as "representation".

>>194343
So far 8 is the most you can have and with the ability to save costume and move sets to swap between characters, that's all I find that I'm really needing.

I will say that I wish there was a bettwe way to reset your stats though or at least change your stats based on your costume/ move selection presets you make. Collecting the dragon balls just to switch back and forth from making my Frieza a melee rushdown to a midrange comboer is pretty annoying.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/apr/15/has-ryu-wandered-his-way-super-smash-audio-files-referencing-ryu-and-fire-emblems-roy-may-have-been-found-newest-smash-patch/#comments

This would not surprise me at all if it happened. Roys clone ass being included makes it all the more believable sadly.

>>194347
Sadly?

>>194348
Half of the characters they will have sold us if this holds up will be clones unless they make some substantial changes to Roy which I doubt they'd do since Lucas seems to be very much the same as he was in Brawl and Mewtwo with a few minor improvements to his move functions maintains everything from Melee.

>>194349
I imagine all the missing Brawl characters could come back.
Brawl and Sm4sh are very similar, so porting would be really easy.
That they already have Lucas footage is good evidence.

>>194348
Not him, but I really don't see the point in bringing Roy back. I mean, we already have a Marth clone with Lucina, why add another? I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering we had two different Fox clones in Brawl, but still.

>>194351
Yeah, but it's not like you have to buy him.

>>194346
Its not enough when you love making custom characters, setting alternate movesets & costumes for the 8 characters it lets you make so far isn't enough.

People have said its impressive that the conversion was done at all DKR3D was also good.

//youtube.com/watch?v=yF819iQLNkk
Thats more like it.

>>194362

>Dislikes
>spray on tans

HAH.

//youtube.com/watch?v=HWR-ZxYdKy8

It doesn't get much saltier than this.

>>194376
NRS has been knocking it out of the park with the character designs lately.
I'll admit I actually kind of enjoyed a lot of the oversexualized female designs in MK9 because they were so hilariously shameless and over-the-top, but it's great that the women finally get to wear outfits as badass-looking as the menfolk's now.

>>194391
And have central story roles, MKX is baffling because aside from the gory fight mechanics it has one of the best presentations in Fighting Games, characters with subtle sexualities, clear motives, important roles for female characters, ultra clean hud, etc.

>>194394
And you can have a four way mother/daughter brawl.

>>194391
>I'll admit I actually kind of enjoyed a lot of the oversexualized female designs in MK9 because they were so hilariously shameless and over-the-top, but it's great that the women finally get to wear outfits as badass-looking as the menfolk's now.

I didn't really hit me until story mode, when I saw Sonya wear the same cleavage outfite from MK9 and how vastly different her appearance was in X.

>>194395

There are tag-team battles?

Also, Sindel isn't playable. She, along with Baraka and Rain are sorry mode fights only.

Aria will be the final most likely boss character of Killer Instinct season 2, it's unknown if she'll be playable.

Gargos it seems we'll have to wait until season 3 for.

>>194410
I could swear there was a tag team mode. And aww no banter on who's kid is the least a disappointment.

MKX made EVERY character amazing except Reptile, everyone hates Reptile now, he really shoulda been a ninja again.

//youtube.com/watch?v=V3LdojemPys

The new Cinder has an attitude.

ARIA looks like something out of Zone of the Enders.

>>194525

It sounds like they told him "be Spider-Man during his time as a sellout wrestler before Uncle Ben dies."

>>194532
>PARENTING

Well Mewtwo released today... and guess what? No customs... sort of.
//youtube.com/watch?v=dgcPVyFnbw4

>>194532
GO TO YOUR ROOM!!

>>194546
Interesting.
Does that mean they were going to do but didn't but the leftover data is still there, or is it just a coincidence it does those things.

>>194560
//youtube.com/watch?v=7ziWe_oNb58

>>194560
And no other controller has such things. Damn shame.

>>194562
A necessary sacrifice for true 360 degree movement.

>>194563
Though how often is that a needed thing? I've find an octagon design better for dodging and similar commands.

http://skullgirls.com/2015/04/skullgirls-2nd-encores-new-features/
Also Robo Fortune is like 98% finished and just needs a little more balancing. She even has all her moves, colored frames, and voice lines.

>>194570
>Samson: Patrick Seitz

Is this a recast, or was "Del Stetson" just a stage name Seitz was using until now?

>>194573
Nevermind

https://twitter.com/Seitz_Unseen/status/593583795078475778

>>194575
Oh lighten up, it's all been leading up to that single moment. For YEARS.
And now this single beautiful moment will be lost like tears in the rain...

//youtube.com/watch?v=e1uQbzZ9Tcs

It looks like Jason has super armor in lieu of the ability to run.

>>194710
Might be a move, most likely his X-ray. Every character has super armor when doing their X-ray.

>>194712
//youtube.com/watch?v=SaLbSWdA4cw

He does get super armor, but only for one of his variations.

>>194736

Technically, it was likely 6 that made Jason an undead revenant. From 2 to 4, he was just a guy who could withstand a hellacious amount of punishment. 6 was where Tommy Jarvis spiked a dead Jason in the chest and a bolt of lightning took care of the rest.

(Personally? I was kinda hoping NRS would give him an Über-Jason costume for shits and giggles. Though I suppose the “take the mask off and drop it to the ground” win animation would’ve run into problems there.)

>>194739
Six is when he gets that shock therapy courtesy of dumbass Tommy and truly becomes superhuman, but a number of fans (myself included) count the end of part three as the last we see of a living Jason, his wound being too great to be surviivable untreated, and being obviously declared dead by the police.

I honestly think that not giving him at least one other movie's Jason look as a costume was a missed opportunity.

I'm wondering if it's some sort of distribution rights or other such nonsense issue. Like, "Oh, (Insert company here) had the DVD and likeness rights for Jason X, so he can't get a costume from that because they wanted money, but the original was okay."

>>194808
Looks pretty cool although they could've afforded to make her waist thicker. I like my gynoids meatier.

>>194808
It must be nice to have creative freedom because your product has no cohesive theme.

>>194809
If all her main parts fly with levitation stuff, I guess it makes sense to have her body look like it relies on the same levitation power to at partly support its weight.

>>194880
Disappointing in design, moves AND intros, not much hope for Predator after this shameful display.

>>194736
>>194739
>>194740
Well now that he's out and awful and I was right cuz he's BORING AS SHIT.

But just to address this, Jason is a revenant the entire series, the dream from the first movie is psychic warning Jason is about to be resurrected, canonically he drowns as a child and is resurrected by his father whom he immediately killed for abandoning him and his mother, a side effect of his resurrection is having aged and further deformed into adulthood.

Now they cut this from the part 2 and just left it a "mystery" as to how he survives dying from drowning as a child to come back in part 2 because they wanted it more about the kills, but this is all still canon and from the official comics, it's Jason's father who builds the shrine to his wife's head.

Jason cannot be killed, even after the damage Tommy inflicted he was alive, just dormant, even if Tommy hadn't caused his electo-ressurection which beefed him up he'd have still resurrected eventually.

>>194881
>>194882
I don't know what you were expecting, but I think he turned out pretty great.

Does he have a stage and is it Crystal Lake Pier?

>>194888
He turned out nothing, he should be "Props: The Mortal Kombat character," instead he's "buffs buffs and more buffs" which is lame.

He should be Soul Calibur 2 Link, bullshit weapons from all the movies out of hammerspace constantly.

>>194889
No and no. Again, pretty lame.

This after they had Freddy too, who was similarly "Blade Glove punches" which nothing unique or interesting.

>>194899
>bullshit weapons from all the movies out of hammerspace constantly

I think I prefer the "unstoppable killer who shrugs off everything thrown at him" approach myself.

//youtube.com/watch?v=TA1J2fSbu4E

Yoshimitsu has a new look for Tekken 7.

>>194899
Functionally, they made Jason into a fantastic fighting game character, especially for Mortal Kombat. Interesting mechanics, great moves, and pretty good balance overall. It sounds like what you want is Fanservice: The Character; you want references and callbacks that realistically could get in the way of being a viable character to just play as. Which is fine to think so, your opinion is your own after all.

>>194901
>>194906
I just don't think they succeeded with the character at all, he feels like he needs more time in the oven especially, but I will concede it's a step up from Freddy who might as well have been a character skin.

>>194882
>canonically he drowns as a child and is resurrected by his father whom he immediately killed for abandoning him and his mother

Hmmm you are taking a comic as canon, one that pulled out of it's ass that Jason's dad was part of a lineage of warlocks and that he owned the Necronomicon. I've read some of the novelizations to the movies, and the one based on Jason Lives does have his dad showing up, and the old man was unaware of all the weird shit going on with his stranged son.

>>195064
The director commentary on part 2 says that the comic is the back story so I'm going off that, the novels are far less canonical.

>>195074

That projectile reversal move. Holy shit.

Also, take a close look at Bison in the trailer. He's got white/grey hair. Perhaps all the body transfers are finally taking its toll on his soul and it's reflecting upon his body.