/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

So did everyone get their free game by now?

Because I may have some troble ahead if that 0 was an O...
*sigh*
The old T4 luck stricks again...

>>189792
Free game for what?

>>189795
I just realized that Brawl could still potentially bring about a Reyn x Groose partnership. This would be glorious.

>Nintendo will maintain its policy of region-locking hardware with the New Nintendo 3DS handheld, the company has confirmed to GameSpot.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new.../1100-6422079/

Why anyone would listen to that NiNTENDOMiNATiON guy, I don't know.

>>189838
>Nintendo will maintain its policy of not getting with the program

>>189794
The Mario Kart 8 promo remember.

But it worked out for me, just had to ask customer service and they sent me the code.

And my 3DS back too.

Things are coming up T4!
(And then I stubbed my toe and slashed water all over myself when trying to do the dishes, so same old)

>>189852
Very, many of the powers revolve around upgrading your traversal speed.

>>189853
Does this make the Prime trilogy subpar games?

>>189852
It's only essential when attempting low-time 100%.

>>189854
If judged purely on the basis of a 2D Metroid, perhaps. However, the Prime games couldn't really do speed properly because they suffer from the same problem that plagues all first-person games with platforming elements: the inability to see your feet. Some power-ups help, like Space Jump and Screw Attack, but these are only useful when you navigate the more expansive rooms (and, in game engine, everything was a room, even the large outdoor areas). Long and mostly flat corridors (for building up Speed Booster) also didn't work well the aesthetic used in Prime, and as I can't recall there being a crouch doing a "hold" on the Boost would also have been harder, not to mention the timing (again due to lack of feet.)

Instead, the Prime trilogy traded much of the speed-related element of 2D Metroid for heavier puzzle solving that made good use of the first-person HUD (the largest difference between Prime and 2D Metroid, and, IMO, the main reason putting Samus in first person didn't suck.)

The Prime games still have speed-run categories to shoot for, but I don't know how they stack against the 2D requirements.

>>189857
I wouldn't call him a shitposter, just someone with a stringent idea of what defines a Metroid game, there is a distinct spirit you are trying to translate into 3D with games like this.

Lets compare the Prime series and Castlevania lords of Shadows, because both games had similar goals in bringing a beloved 2-D exploration based game back to major console release after existing primarily on hand held systems.

With Castlevania it's obvious that third person is the logical way to go, but the actual logistics of how it would work have failed in almost every 3-D attempt at Castlevania, Lords of Shadows being just good enough to actually play creates the template for criticism because in spite of it's failures it was closest to capturing the right spirit, but it's true failure is oddly enough it's greatest strength, by basically jacking god of war's combat and slapping the light and dark system on it they had a reasonably competent game, the drawing power was the big names attached to the story which was actually pretty dumb, so you end up with a solid 6.5-7 game with no chance of being anything more.

Fishbed did a nice job of explaining much of Prime's appeal but without paying proper homage to the games morph ball sequences which became a way of replacing the games faster moments which really helped with capturing the right spirit.

In short everything about Prime was the spirit captured perfectly and translated extremely well using the limitations of the new perspective.

While Shadows couldn't work in anything that properly captured the spirit of the Castlevania games because you knew you where just playing God Of War in chapters, which made the game fit better into that "Story" frame but castrated any exploration elements which are a trademark of both series.

>>189857
Yeah, I saw that too and while him praising Other M was probably just shitposting there were other less trollish people with similar opinions. That Prime was such a fundamental departure from the 2D Metroid games that it was hard to keep the same spirit, even though they're good games on their own. I disagree with them about the other bounty hunters "ruining the setting" though. If anything that added some neat depth and worldbuilding to the series which Other M promptly shat on.

>>189866
>I disagree with them about the other bounty hunters "ruining the setting" though.
Hmm. While I personally don't think their inclusion hurt anything, I can see it as a valid topic of discussion. The Metroid games have always been a very lonely affair--a single Bounty Hunter taking on an entire planet full of hostiles. Giving Samus allies who actually appear on screen in some ways does take something away from the solitude aspect of it.

Personally I don't think it hurt the game more than it helped it, so I'm okay with it, but I can definitely see it as being something worth discussing when talking about the success or failure of the Prime series.

>>189852
It was never a major concern for me when playing the series.

>>189867
The problem is that since Metroid is such an old series, and there have been so many games, it's hard to feel that lonely atmosphere anymore. Eventually you're just going through the motions. This is why people complain about Nintendo needing new IPs

>>189877
>This is why people complain about Nintendo needing new IPs
Do they just not buy them then?

>>189877

People don't want new IPs tho'. Sales figures support it.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Cxhs-GLE29Q

>>189880
>>189882
Yeah, the "Lack of New IPs" thing is something that people like to *complain* about. New IPs are not something that people actually want to PLAY.

>>189886
It doesn't help when Nintendo does little to promote the new IPs (or even some existing ones; did Pikmin 3 have any large marketing?). Core Nintendo fans interested in the premise are likely buy, but they need larger numbers for any hope of something worthwhile. Hell, we had to beg them to bring over three RPGs (Operation Rainfall), and AFAIK the limited runs sold out.

But they'll go on a media blitz for a main Pokemon game--which will sell millions by mere existence alone--to the point that you can probably find some promotional deal at Home Depot or some shit.

The Bayo spotlight was good but that trailer has made me worried about the story of this game.

I know I'm gonna have to sit down and pay attention to it because I'm a masochist but goddammit the plot of Bayonetta doesn't need to make LESS sense! Why can't we just get a videogame plot for a videogame type of videogame!? Is that too much to ask!?

>>189898
Did you play Wonderful 101?

>>189899

Yes and I liked W101's story but I'm worried that won't be the case here because W101/Viewtiful Joe has always been one to take itself less seriously than other works usually by being a bit more self aware and having a bit more in the way of cartoonish slapstick going on.

Not that Bayo's plot is 100% serious but the first game did have a bad habit of trying to present its characters and their events in a confusing order and playing up its mystery elements in a way that doesn't really have much in terms of payoff outside of like one revelation It's sad that comedic relief Yuri Lowenthall is the guy with the most complete and straightforward character arc in that game.

I got the plot of the first Bayonetta on my first playthrough. Not sure exactly what could be confusing about it, sice eventuallty everything is spelled out.

Smash sale. Nintendo games are on sale, like real genuine titles.

>>189910

Bayonetta gives her younger self an amulet. She sends her younger self back in time.

You then see Jeanne try to Stab Bayonetta. How this was explained to me as that initially she was stabbed and imprisoned but since she gave her younger self the amulet the stab didn't work and Bayo and Jeanne spent years fighting...

If you can't realize how this would DRASTICALLY alter the events of the game up to the point Bayonetta returns, leaving open the question of HOW DOES LUKA EVEN KNOW WHO BAYONETTA IS ANYMORE then I dunno what to tell you.

Or maybe that person was full of shit and little Cereza's really was a pointless aspect of that story I don't know.

Lets not even get into how little of Father Balders plan actually makes sense and follows little to no logic or consistency.

It's not that the plot is necessarily hard to figure out when you think about it but the more you think about it the more nonsensical and stupid the whole thing becomes. And I wouldn't mind a videogame plot being nonsensical and stupid as long as it's just being up front about it but Bayonetta structures itself in such a way that it's like a mystery that you have to piece together.

And when you make a story that's structured like that it better be a fucking worthwhile mystery to solve otherwise you're just gonna piss off people who bother to put effort into trying to put it together.

...I didn't like the first Bayonetta.

>>189921
That's perfectly fine, there are people out there who hate puppies and rainbows

>>189921

My feelings on it are mixed personally. I thought the gameplay was fine, although not 100% to my taste. I thought the environments were good. The Enemy design was great. Music was catchy and suitably dramatic but there's a lot of confounding elements that make me sort of dislike it.

I'd still recommend it but I'd probably recommend DMC3 over it TBPH.

>>189919
Never gave much of a thought to that little plothole, because we are talking about beings of immense power who canonically possess control over time. I simply handwaved that fact that Bayo accquired those memories without the rest of the world changing with them, as being part of Balder's machinations. Yes, "it's magic, we haven't to explain crap" is a cop-out, but it works.

Also, Balder's plan was pretty straightforward. He wanted to summon God to remake the universe BUT he also wanted to be in charge, so he needed the two eyes active and under his control, and thus "fixed" that Bayonetta didn't truly become one with it in the past.

Frankly, I kinda like the fact that Bayonetta in essence is a tale of a woman coming to terms with her own daddy issues.

>>189929

>Never gave much of a thought to that little plothole, because we are talking about beings of immense power who canonically possess control over time. I simply handwaved that fact that Bayo accquired those memories without the rest of the world changing with them, as being part of Balder's machinations. Yes, "it's magic, we haven't to explain crap" is a cop-out, but it works.

No. No I don't think it does in this instance.

Because when you give me a plot that presents itself as something you HAVE to think about to understand and the answers to the multiple plot inconsistencies are "Don't think about it" you're giving me mixed messages there.

>Also, Balder's plan was pretty straightforward. He wanted to summon God to remake the universe BUT he also wanted to be in charge, so he needed the two eyes active and under his control, and thus "fixed" that Bayonetta didn't truly become one with it in the past.

I'd type up a response to this but I think a blog post I made a while back sums it up better... lemme just post it in spoilers cause:

"Yessss. I will lure Bayonetta to Vigrid! With her stone and her blood I will open the eyes of the world and Summon Jubileus. But to do that I’ll also need to brainwash her old friend Jeanne who survived for some reason and make them fight each other! But I’ll also make sure she doesn’t take the stone from Bayonetta because I don’t need it yet.

Then I’ll release Bayonetta’s younger self in the city and IMMEDIATELY send angels out to capture her thus summoning up her obviously maternal instincts and forcing her to protect her! It’s a good thing I can codify women’s personality so well.

Then as she’s busy protecting her younger self it’ll slowly awaken memories within her which will obviously help awaken the eyes for reasons. I’ll also send giant power angels out as sacrifice! And by sacrifice I mean try to kill Bayonetta. Man it’s a good thing I have such faith in my daughter’s skill as a fighter that I’ll just assume she won’t die fighting my army of all-powerful divine monsters. I mean if she did she’d get dragged to hell and then I’d just be fucked with this whole summoning the creator thing.

Then when she comes to my tower after obviously killing Jeanne (lol it’s so smart of me to make two former friends fight each other. No way that could go wrong) her younger self will sense my presence and come right to me… meaning I probably didn’t even need to try and kidnap her anyway but eh whatever.

Then I’ll fuse with little Cereza which isn’t creepy at all and use our combined power to destroy her! And I assume take the stone too. Which I can use Cereza for! Which means the whole part about me releasing her and having Jeanne give back the Stone was kinda stupid really…

But even if she does manage to best me she’ll probably be an idiot and use like, Lipstick for a bullet or something and I’ll totally survive! Then she’ll use my convenient time portal to send her younger self back to her correct period- JUST IN TIME FOR THE EYES TO AWAKEN CONVENIENTLY!

Then I’ll summon Jubileus and all will be well… well I mean unless Jeanne were to somehow survive their final encounter. Then I’d be in trouble!”

>Frankly, I kinda like the fact that Bayonetta in essence is a tale of a woman coming to terms with her own daddy issues.

Lady and Arkham from DMC3 also does that.

... I dunno if I'd call it GOOD but I'd call it better than Bayonetta.

Bayonetta is a dumb game with the same old anime "make things bigger as the most shallow of hype".

Not saying it isn't fun but the only depth it has is faux-depth, the writing is nothing special.

>>189893
Hopefully they'll go all out with Splatoon.
Like, with free DLC that adds the Splatooner as a playable character to Mario Kart and Smash Bros.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/06/super-smash-bros-3ds-will-not-support-circle-pad-pro
>Nintendo of Japan has confirmed on its 3DS support page that Super Smash Bros. for 3DS will not support the Circle Pad Pro attachment for the current 3DS and 3DS XL handhelds.
>Super Smash Bros. 3DS will, however, take advantage of the C-Button on the redesigned New Nintendo 3DS and New 3DS XL
What the fuck am I even buying it for at launch.

>>189941
Okay. I guess that's news.

>>189941
It's a 2D fighting game, and you want to use it with an analog stick?

>>189943
C-sticking is a vitally important smash bros technique.

>>189943
...that's a good point. I don't know why I was so annoyed at that. Shouldn't be a problem.

So, I guess this is the beginning of the end for the Circle Pad Pro?

>>189964
Pretty sure the end of that was some time ago. Afterall it was an OPTIONAL device.

...
They really gotta get somebody new to name their shit.

>>189971
Yeah, but I'd hoped it would have more support from Nintendo itself. Annoys me that the best they do to incorporate it is a nub in N3DS.

>>189974
Seriously. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the successor to the Wii U was called "Console".

>>189975
New Wii U

And it's launch title New Super Mario Bros New U

>>189975
Calling it now, they'll name it "Wii 3"

>>189987
Maybe get Samus back into the Promo Material being one of the Big Three

>>189987
>>189988
>>189991

oh god, what if they had it as Wiii with each "i" being a character (Mario, Link, Samus).

welp...
http://pastebin.com/ZWLNfpPH
check the dates

I'll take it with a grain of salt as the Ridley thing might just be the leaker pulling our leg. Like with shiek.

>>189993
Can't you edit your pastebin entries.

>>189995
Yes, but the site will tell you and show (some?) edits:
http://pastebin.com/qxrG4G7W

So unless the bin in >>189993 found a way around it, they're lookin' pretty solid.

>>189996
That's good to know about pastebin.

I still don't believe the Ridley thing though.

>>189993
Oh, it's been removed.

nintendo

Japanese demo of Super Smash Bros 3DS.

http://www.twitch.tv/cobanermani456

>>190014
Is there any way to access my profile now without that damn JustinTV message popping up?

>>189791
3DS or Wii U
I can only pick one.

Halp?
;_;

>>190016
Wait on it. New Model 3DS coming out in a few months, be a better comparison then.

>>190017
And we'll likely have more solid details/dates by the time the N3DS hits internationally. (It still amuses me how Japan's gaming environment is mostly cell phones now, yet Japanese companies still focus on giving them all the nice stuff and giving it to them earlier.)

If you can't wait, anon, get a used 3DS for now to tide you over; at worst, you'll have some 3DS games to play on the N3DS.

>>190016
As they said, the 3DS is more geared towards a solo experience while WiiU's is for the multiplayer. Most likely custom stages will come with the WiiU, and apparently it will have a lot more music too.

>>190018
Details/dates of other games, I mean.

>>190014
//youtube.com/watch?v=jeacVLtWdbk
//youtube.com/watch?v=vmw4UnO_qMg
//youtube.com/watch?v=0CNTqQ_gQ94
//youtube.com/watch?v=FXaszUipkMk

>>190022

Loving that music.

Villager looks fun and it seems like Link/Mario have been buffed enough to not suck anymore.

Attacks look like they hit a harder this time, both aesthetically and gameplaywise.

>>190026
I played him at the Best Buy demo a few months ago.
He is fun.

>>190022
//youtube.com/watch?v=wq9jtdCq8oc
//youtube.com/watch?v=QiHNsK3uHuw

>>190045
I wish they would give everyone actual costumes. Most of these are just palette swaps (lol Daisy.) Samus has a lot more variety in suit design, for example, especially with the Fusion suit, but all she gets are recolors (better recolors than in Brawl, granted.)

Does the Wii U version have actual costumes, or are they still just palette swaps for the most part?

I do like that Louie (I guess? the head seems weird) is an alt for Olimar.

>>190049
Ah, thanks.

>>190047
I heard that the WiiU does indeed have more costumes (for example, Little Mac and someone else have at least 16, though it's still split between the three models). No idea if it's true though, I should hope it is and that they take advantage of the model swaps.

>>190045
Wedding Marth looks a lot less ridiculous now, though his black palette is still lacking. Would've been nice if they gave him back his Melee/Brawl outfit though I guess they don't want to confuse him with Lucy.

>people with their copies out
Shit is gonna go down.

//youtube.com/watch?v=3p4DBiataXo

Someone streaming their copy of the game:
http://www.twitch.tv/gema_yue

Lucina confirmed for 99% Marth clone just like everyone thought.
Wolf appears to have been cut, yet his theme is present on Cornaria stage.

>>190073
>>190074
Can you guys decide on one thread and keep it there?

[spoiler]So is the ESRB leak basically true?[spoiler]

>>190205

is this jojo

>>190205
does it scale to fit with the models?

>>190208
I know as much as Cheezum's twitter feed told me, which is to say I know those two pictures exist.

>>190209
If it does Great Sword Zelda would be awesome. Especially if the face animations don't break too much.

http://imgur.com/a/tROgM

Please don't fix this Nintendo, love Rodyle.

Really, games should offer this kind of thing. Be a good use to bring back codes that you punch in to unlock this kind of thing.

http://imgur.com/a/ExEpr

PARASOL GANONDORF, HW CONFIRMED FOR GREATEST GAME EVER

Zelda looks like she's gone mad with power. I like it.

I was hype as hype when Xenoblade Chronicles was coming to the states, and after I got it I would play it almost every evening after work for hours upon hours. In the end I had almost 150 hours in the game, almost every quest completed, two levels from cap, got to the area right before the end boss, and... stopped. I don't remember why now; it may have been moving a few months later that made me stop, and then I just never picked it back up. It's always irked me that I left it unfinished, but never enough to sit down and finish it.

Tonight I finally finished it. Had to fight with my Wii to actually get to the end (two times the game tried to load and suddenly the system acted as if I just started to play; turns out the bristles over the slot had built up quite a bit of dust and wiped it all on the disc), but it was good to finally finish it.

I wouldn't mind playing through again to finish all quests, all Affinities, etc., but I don't know that I want to devote another 150 hours despite how much I liked it. The New Game+ bonuses kind of annoy me, too; I mean, it's great that I can walk around with a near-fully-leveled character and just decimate everything all my own, with kick-ass equipment, and 7M G, but I would have preferred something like Tales of Symphonia where I could select perks like faster level up, cheaper items, etc. Takes the challenge entirely out. I suppose I could just start a fresh game and grind through it again...

>>190252
Yeah, the Newgame+ was a real bummer and felt tacked-on as fuck. I would've liked to see how much the improved equips, skills, and gems would've helped on a low-level run, even with the weird level difference -> stat boost/decrease system the game used.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/24/new-nintendo-3ds-to-launch-in-australia-and-nz-in-november
>Nintendo Australia has announced today that the New Nintendo 3DS and New Nintendo 3DS XL will launch on November 21, 2014 in Australia and New Zealand. This will follow the October 11 launch of the systems in Japan.
>“This will be the first launch outside of Japan, and there are no plans to release the system in America and Europe this year,” said Nintendo Australia managing director Tom Enoki during the presentation.
It's cool that Australia is finally getting some love instead of always getting sloppy seconds, but wut.

I still can't decide how mad I should be for the newDS since I just bought my 3DSXL last year to the day and new power aside the little nub they give us rather than a second stick is just pathetic.

>>190440
Wh
What the fuck.

>NINTENDO
>Making smart software and hardware decisions
Pick one and only one.

>>190444
This is one of the dumbest decisions they've made in a long time though.

>>190448
I think naming it "New 3DS" still tops the decision, because no matter when it comes out it's going to cause a fuckload of confusion in Joe Sixpack. Doesn't help that the changes are non-obvious, so the consumer might not notice the difference on first look. This will lead to a lot of very upset gift receivers, especially if the game they get with a "new" 3DS is for the New 3DS...

At least with this weird-as-hell delay there's the slight possibility they'll go for a local name change. Even "Next 3DS" would be better in terms of clarity, though still a stupid name.

God I love ol Ninty but I'll be the first to admit they're really god damn dumb about stuff.

Maybe that's why theyre delaying it. Market studies. Settle on the new name.
Cos god knows "new" doesn't mean anything in japan...

...but then again
australia

>>190460
>australia
Right; I want to habeeb that the delay is for figuring out a better name and changing packaging for America/EU English countries, but that they released it in AUS without a name change puts a heavy damper on the idea.

>>190465
....

AND WHY AUSTRALIA

>>190466

Maybe they're trying to test-drive the New 3DS name in an English-speaking region that's of very little consequence, so if (when) it turns out to be a bust they don't lose out on much?

Thus we pray, anyway.

Fucking hell, I was hoping it'd be out for Black Friday.
._.

So I finally started getting into Fire Emblem.

Ho-lee shit this shit's good. Anyone else into it?

>>190493

I play having a time finding out which pairings to use to optimize the outcome.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0HYFboPODIY

>>190494
I'm just starting it out myself, but at the moment I'm pulling my hair out trying to not lose squadmates considering I have barely over a handful.

>open 3ds to look at smash deals
>sf64 for $30
>yaok.jpg
>literally tear up as the opening scene plays out as waves of nostalgia for my first ever video game crash over me
>it's been over 10 years since I lags played it
>muscle memory takes over. I know exactly what's going to happen
>memories of my father! a fighter pilot! helping me through the levels rise up
I can't handle these feels

>>190504
>sf64
>$30

What a ripoff. Even on Wii VC it's $10. Unless you mean the remake.

>>190505
He does mean the remake, it's part of their promo this week. http://www.nintendo.com/eshop/offers

>>190508
Everything on sale this month I already had, I'm sad now.

>>190508
Does the remake even have any extra features or levels?
Why not just download a sf64 rom for a pso?

>>190518
Master Quest included, with a mirrored world to make it extra different.

>>190519
Well that's... something I guess.

Better than the complete waste of time and effort that went into multiplayer (lol local only and we made it so you can see the faces of the people you're playing in the game despite them being 5 feet away)

>>190536
I'm really strongly considering getting the smaller version because of that feature.

>>190538
The larger version can't do that?

Also, is that the Lady Gaga of Japan?

>>190536
Zelda and Peach get some nice outfits at the end there.

>>190539
Mnope. Just the regular.

And man, Lady Gaga's been over for a while now.
Trust me, I hate that I know this? But she's more of an Ariana Grande figure right now.

>>190540
Peach is always a cutie...
Samus on the other hand, she just got a bit of her Varia suit.

She probably got a fancy brightly coloured tux underneath, though!

>>190541
Well, shit. I had my sights pinned on getting the XL/LL/LOL version, but I'll have to rethink that if it can't do the interchangeable plates...

>>190544
If the plates can be custom-made, I'm sold. Completely.

>>190553
They look to be simple plastic snap-ons; I would be heavily surprised if we don't see a shit-ton of plates like we see covers for phones. I'm sure a small niche industry will pop up making plates, at least in Japan. We'll see how popular it is over here.

>>190591
Do they even have the right experience with that kind of genre?

>>190592
Almost every Platinum game has some variation of this, also, Punch-out.

>>190592
RPGs? Not really.

Rail based flight sims? A decent amount. Then again it's not too tough of a genre to build well and they've got what looks like some tight controls already from the webm, so half of the battle's already done.

>>190591
I'm... assuming that's from Bayo2?

>>190600
Yup.

>>190601
Huh.
Whats the deal?
Nintendo Exclusivity deal and suddenly its all about parodying their IPs?

>>190602
Homage. they are doing the games more justice than Nintendo has lately.

>>190603
I see.
What happened to that Wii U starfox, by the by?
Wasn't Shiggy testing that one out in the E3 Direct?

>>190610
They're working on it.

>>190610
We know it's being made, but it's nowhere near finished enough to show off.

>>190616
They missed a chance with the Wii. They could've had some real interesting flight controls going on with the motion controller.

>>190617
That's tough to speculate on. Some games had pretty nice waggle controls while others were nigh unplayable. The gamepad seems better suited to a Starfox game since the built-in screen seems natural as a HUD replacement or weapon management system.

//youtube.com/watch?v=gOJTTvDztEo

>>190678
It was definitely a step back in the right direction after Adventures.

>>190679
Definitely not gonna argue that.

>>190679
I don't get the hate for Adventures. The Star Fox brand was just a coat of paint for a pretty solid game on its own and I don't really take it any more seriously than Mario Tennis in relation to stuff like Super Mario 64 or Galaxy.

>>190681
Many people were unhappy to see a game wherein Fox spends more time smacking dinosaurs in the face with a magic staff, rather than in the cockpit of his Arwing, as the successor to Star Fox 64. It's not a bad Zelda clone, it's just too much of a departure from its predecessors.

>>190681
I was pretty enthusiastic about the change in setting and style of Starfox... But the game really had a pretty big set of flaws.
New gameplay elements are always an exciting way of exploring an old genre. ie, yes, Mario 64/Sunshine to Mario Galaxy.

That's stuff's new ways to look at the same formula and remix it to keep it fresh and exciting.

But that was achieved much more by Assault than Adventures. And even then it was kind of a swing-and-a-miss because of how badly the on-foot missions control.

I don't really remember how many or accessible 3rd person shooters were in 2005, but I hope if the Wii U one builds on what we have today if they go down that road.
Either way the Arwing sequences were pretty much the best part of Assault. Great visuals with some pretty fun gameplay and level design.
Hell, the story wasn't that bad either!
Sure wasn't Command at least!

...
boy that took me back to my Arwing Landing forums days.

>>190681
The game Star Fox was polished over wasn't really that solid. There were a lot of problems that would have kept it from being really popular even before they put an older IP on top.

Of course ZSS is posed for dat ass.

>>190756
That is silly huge

Captain Toad for $39.99! Great news for anyone who's on the fence about it.
I'd... totally check it out if I had a Wii U...

>>190759
Ridley sized.

//youtube.com/watch?v=pu4ahbMaGEc

Man.
I dunno about you guys buy I think they big mistake nintendo is making is that they're competing with themselves in a way.

Like, so far, they've wanted to establish they don't compete with Sony and MS, but the 3DS and Wii U are kind of splitting their market, I think...

//youtube.com/watch?v=MEyuZ6Kf2u4

Looks like that extra polish they're putting into their games is paying off.

>>191048

Now if they could just get third parties to give a damn.

>>191049
How well is Bayonetta 2 doing? Hopefully we see more games in that vein.

>>191049
I'm not sure they ever will.
Nintendo does poorly with the N64: no one wants to make games for a system with a small market.
Nintendo does well with the Wii: no one wants to compete with Nintendo's games on their won system.
Release later with the more powerful GameCube: everyone's already on the PS2.
Release earlier with a weaker WiiU: everyone's waiting for the more powerful Xbone and PS4.

They always seem to be too late or too early on the 3rd party mark.

>>191053
With all the crossover titles Nintendo is getting other companies to make (Pokken, Hyrule Warriors, SMT x Fire Emblem) I think they've learned to go to the third-parties rather than wait for the third-parties to come to them.

I don't think we'll get many third-party IPs on the system, at least not without mixing in a first-party franchise. But outsourcing is still going to get more games out for the system. It may not draw in people who don't already have a Wii U, but with most current Wii U owners being big Nintendo fans the games will likely do pretty well.

>>191058
>SMT x Fire Emblem
Is that really still happening?

>>191067
Yes, they just haven't announced anything because they announced the game itself too early. They had nothing to show.

>>191080
>>191067
I kinda don't want it to cos I hate Persona and I like FE?
And I kinda didn't like FE's forray into Persona-ness with Awakening?

>>191083
>And I kinda didn't like FE's forray into Persona-ness with Awakening?
Awakening was absolutely nothing like a Persona game.

>>191094
Probably talking about the waifus and social links or whatever they're called in Awakening.

>>191095
>social links or whatever they're called in Awakening.
Ah, that would be the Support conversations that have existed in Fire Emblem since the beginning and were not significantly from Awakening than in any other game in the series? Oh my, how egregious.

>>191097
I'm just sayin - I wasn't a fan.

>>191095
>waifus
Yeah you can really tell they went all out on making it serviceable to fans.

I mean, lets see a figure like Tharja's be made of literally any other Nintendo franchise character.

>>191100
>I mean, lets see a figure like Tharja's be made of literally any other Nintendo franchise character.

Would Samus count? Because it does have the same spirit behind it...

>>191099
Then you must really not like Fire Emblem since they've been around since FOUR.

>>191104
I said Awakening, damn it.
And i liked it, I just wasnt a fan of that one element

what do you want from me

Didn't you say earlier in the thread that it was "Awakening's foray into Persona-ness"? But the support conversations have been an element that's been apart of other Fire Emblem games. So the point would be, it isn't a new element to the fire emblem series, so it can't be "a foray into Persona-ness." And I guess they'd like you to admit you were wrong/misspoke/were attempting to poorly troll people by making it seem like Fire Emblem was stealing things from Persona.

Personally, I just discounted your opinion as shit and moved on because who the fuck doesn't like Persona, I mean come on.

>Q4: At present, your company's hardware and games make use of region-locking, by which games purchased in one region cannot be played in another region. Are there any plans to unlock this restriction?

>A4: Iwata: The game business has a history of taking a very long time with localization among other things, such as having to deal with various issues of marketing in each particular country, or games that have made use of licensed content that did not apply globally, and had all kinds of circumstances, so to say, that region-locking has existed due to circumstances on the sellers' side rather than for the sake of the customers. In the history of game consoles, that is the current situation. As for what should be done going forward, if unlocked for the benefit of the customers, there may also be a benefit for us. Conversely, unlocking would require various problems to be solved, so while I can't say today whether or not we intend to unlock, we realize that it is one thing that we must consider looking to the future.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/events/141030qa/02.html

Translation from Cheesemeister.

>>191117
At least they're sort of listening.

>>191117
>unlocking would require various problems to be solved
I'm assuming he's talking about the loss in profit by allowing people in some countries where they might jack up the price (Australia) get the game for a reasonable price from another area that speaks the same language (America).

Well, boo-hoo, perhaps you shouldn't price gouge. Or, if it's about not being able to make a return producing the game for the specified region, wouldn't a non-region-locked game just mean you can offer direct sales of a version made for a different country with the same language? This might be problematic for text-heavy games like RPGs where language nuances are more prominent, but platformers and FPSs would be fine.

>>191122
>Well, boo-hoo, perhaps you shouldn't price gouge.
I think that's mainly the taxation laws for entertainment and hardware combined in each particular country. Like take Brazil for instance. There really wasn't any way for the Playstation hardware to penetrate the market in any significant way. Especially for the economy's state. The reason? Brazilian law "punishes" hardware imports - so Sony had to put assemblies in the country to reduce the prices almost three times their import price.

>This might be problematic for text-heavy games like RPGs where language nuances are more prominent
In my experience, they don't really ever change the language stylings by region. They go with a localization and stick it to every country with the same language.

>>191124
>In my experience, they don't really ever change the language stylings by region. They go with a localization and stick it to every country with the same language.

Which is why Xenoblade was, even in the American version, very British.

>>191122
>I'm assuming he's talking about the loss in profit by allowing people in some countries where they might jack up the price (Australia) get the game for a reasonable price from another area that speaks the same language (America).

Not necessarily the loss in profit for *him* as for the local distributors who would then find it less worth their time to make deals with Nintendo regarding distribution. It's the same reason streaming sites don't allow streaming in foreign regions a lot of the time--doing so makes it much more difficult to make the deals which will allow domestic copies of the product to be sold. Not because CONSUMERS wouldn't buy it, but because the local organizations will consider themselves to be in competition with the home company.

I am not arguing in favor of region-locking. But I am saying that you are attempting to oversimplify an issue that genuinely does have nuances.

>>191125
Xenoblade was an oddity in that regard. I think companies normally make the English version with American/Canadian actors, then ship that off to Australia/UK.

However, for whatever reason Nintendo didn't initially care to release it in America but did in Europe and Australia. So, for the English version, they used British folks. After Operation Rainfall they finally brought it to the states, but in the simplest way possible: European English voices (and offered only through Gamestop.)

>>191126
>doing so makes it much more difficult to make the deals which will allow domestic copies of the product to be sold.
Makes sense. I thought it was because of licensing agreements already in place, plus the small variations in how copyright works across countries.

This direct is like a tiny E3 keynote.
I'm loving it.

Oh god the Nopons in X look so fucking cute.

Well that was a pretty good direct!
I'm actually really liking the amiibo idea.

Duck Hunt intro was extremely cute. But man I do wish we would get more concrete information on the gameplay of Xenoblade X than what we've seen so far which is highly rudimentary.

I was hoping they'd release a Smash Bros WiiU system bundle, but I'm pretty sure they would have announced one some time ago if they were going to. Should I just purchase a WiiU now rather than waiting? Are there any good bundles out at the moment?

Are there really people seriously comparing Xenoblade X to Grand Theft Auto V?

>>191215
There's a reason /cog/ is the only game forum I visit.

>>191215
The city hub looks like a modern town, so obviously they're directly comparable in all other aspects.

>>191215
Just Kotaku being Kotaku as usual.

//youtube.com/watch?v=pRx2Vxwni_s

//youtube.com/watch?v=Qf5a2-0nJ_0

This game is giving off some serious Epic Mickey vibes. Also, Knuckles has gone full retard here.

>>191313
Was Epic Mickey bad?

All I remember was people being super hype over a grimdark horror disney title with all the
KILL THE MOUSE
TAKE HIS HOUSE
stuff

>>191318
It was okay. Better in some aspects than others.
Camera sucked, but for better and worse it had all the makings of a 90s platformer with less emphasis on collecting and more on fetch quests.
Really, the best part of the whole thing was the concept art. You can really tell they where trying to push for a much more intense experience, but had to dial it back.

>>191319
>You can really tell they where trying to push for a much more intense experience, but had to dial it back.
Yeah, a lot of the grimdark images first released made people go "oh, wtf, this will be awesome" but Disney made them dial it back hard...

//youtube.com/watch?v=ZPwXKHqdXDw

Already exploited.

I need this scene edited with "Fly like an eagle"

Pokecapn get your crew back together. We have another Sonic trainwreck we need you to suffer through.

>>191345
The jumping reminded me of the original Link's Awakening, where you would move to the edge of a screen to go to another, hit Select just before the screen changed and, when you went back, would be on the same side of the screen as the screen you had just left. Led to a lot of sequence breaking (and glitches, glitches everywhere.)

But why the fuck are there default models for the characters? My only guess is that there's a cutscene when the door opens, and you take control of those characters after the cutscene... but why do that? What point is there in leaving behind the models currently being used and using this new set?

>>191357
Cutscene models usually have more complex bones for complex animations that would be a needless burden on processing for regular gameplay.
I'm guessing that's what's going on here.

The ride never ends.

//youtube.com/watch?v=lwi46F5B_t4

>>191364
I WANT TO GET OFF BIG RED BUTTON'S WILD RIDE

//youtube.com/watch?v=wXMIYm3KJnU

>>191372
I remember someone posted a link to a thread several months ago where a guy in QA spilled the beans on how terrible the game was. Were they legit or just making up stuff that sounds equally as bad as it turned out to be?

>>191377
He was right about Shadow first appearing at a hill, being a boss, and fucking off after that. Along with Metal Sonic being in the game and leading the robotic enemies, until Lyric showed up.

http://archive.moe/v/thread/249034950/#249049807

//youtube.com/watch?v=IdVqWL0BHMI

>>191402
The game apparently was in worse shape at E3, so perhaps the downgrade is the result of trying to get the game to run on Wii U. BRB even had to modify the CryEngine 3, in order to get it to run split screen images on the Wii U.

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/sonic-boom-use-enhanced-version-crytek-3-engine-standard-engine-wouldnt-suffice/

This game is going to end up killing BRB. There's no doubt. When that happens, I hope someone from the team spill his guts. Like Sonic 06, I'm curious about what went wrong. Also hoping for some insight on how Sega handles game development for Sonic.

>>191403
Oh no oh no oh no I hope it doesn't cost anyone their job.
This was clearly not ready to be published - it wasn't because of any laziness, it's because this was very obviously rushed to get in before black Friday.
Sure, the writing might have been crap no matter what, but it still would've been above most other sonic games....

Ugh, I just hate it. Less industry jobs for artists and programmers.

>>191395
>51 minutes
Do people actually watch these, or are they just posted for whoever might be keeping track of speed run times?

LPs I can understand because they're done in shorter bytes and sometimes have useful commentary, but I can't see someone sitting there for an hour watching.

>>191403
>>191404
You know, I just realized something.

We all know Sonic Chronicles is a shitty, shitty RPG, but SEGA outsourced it to Bioware. Up to this point we all assumed it was Bioware's fault as they're not as good as they used to be. But now I'm wondering if SEGA isn't to blame, because this is like they truly don't give a shit whatsoever.

If Sonic Team doesn't bounce back with a truly great Sonic game like Generations, only better, I think Sonic is done. Truly done. I mean he was already dead, but I'm thinking the series might actually go on hiatus, or that SEGA will go bankrupt yet again.

>>191406
Even if the next Sonic Team game sucks, Sonic is a tentpole for SEGA. They'll continue making rehashes and stupid iOS "Jump" games, plus merchandising and Archie comics.

I don't understand why, after they nailed it with Colors, they immediately forgot all those lessons and reverted to making trash.

>>191408
Generations was far better than Colors, and Lost World was honestly the same level. Colors was somewhat disappointing after everybody hyped it up so much, it's really slow (and by that I don't mean the last of boost, but the stop-and-stop level design) and clunky.

>>191404
This game's dev time was three years.

>>191409
That doesn't mean it's actually the time they spent on the version we know.

>>191410
Very true.
Remember Bioshock Infinite. Ended up little like its final E3 preview...and most every preview and trailer before it in all but setting. Hell, even that was initially changed after who knows how much development.

Whatever, I shouldn't rant about that. This is about Red Button and their problems.
Though honestly, I think Sega itself might have something big to do with it at this point. After 3 major fowl ups with 3 individual western companies, the lowest common denominator seems to rest on them.

At this point, I just wonder if the cartoon's any good.

>>191418
Its good for Eggman. Clearly best character, as has been the way of Sonic games for a while now.

>>191395
Jeez. They really do never shut up.

I feel that the people saying it's as bad as 06 have never played 06.

>>191424
Can you blame them?

Joking aside yeah 2006 is still in a league of it's own. It's almost impossible to play that game with stuff like the load times.

>>191424
2006 has its merits over this game.

For one thing, if I squint my eyes, when playing Sonic's campaign, I feel like I'm playing Sonic Adventure 3. The level design has branching paths, and some of the levels are honestly...enjoyable. I know, weird, but Sonic's levels can be genuinely fun to play. Although there are definitely moments that are NOT fun, and some of the level design is broken as fuck (Radical Train and Flame Core) I legitimately enjoyed playing Wave Ocean, Crisis City, Kingdom Valley, and Tropical Jungle. Another thing: the music kicks ass. Is it me? Do I have incredibly low standards? Am I not allowed to give credit where credit's due? I don't know, but other famous Sonic fans, notably Somecallmejohnny, seem to side with me here.

But this, THIS is just TRASH. No redeeming value. The gameplay is boring, the music is stock, it is glitchy to the point of legitimately being unplayable, it lags to hell and removes shadows when you enter co-op mode (Which is the SELLING POINT and what the game is built around btw) and at least Sonic 06 has an excuse for why it sucks so hard. This game has none whatsoever.

>>191426
Yeah, sonic 06 is trash.
The only actually playable level without anything fucked up was the demo level and even then, there were some screw ups.

they just cant get it right, huh?

>>191426
>>191424
06 and Boom are different kinds of bad. Sonic 06's is literally so terrible that it becomes hilarious, whereas Boom isn't quite as bad in certain respects, but at the same time they make it too good/competent to be funny anymore because the badness was exactly what made 06 entertaining.