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- Ye Ol Thread: http://plus4chan.org/b/cog/res/182453.html
- Ketchup: http://www.teamfortress.com/catchup/
- EotL Trailer: End of the Line Trailer [SFM]youtube thumb

> Unoptimizations
> Forsaken Fortress
> "Update soon."
> 6358 Tours. No Australium.
> "onii-chan, plz add my friend he can't add you."

Still hanging in there. How about you?
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Eh, I've been passin' some whiskey. And occasionally playing TF2.
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Anonymous
I haven't payee in over a year. Any good new weapons?
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TFE
>187579
>new guns in TF2
>not THOUSANDS OF COSMETIC ITEMS
Haha, what do you think you're even playing, a video game?
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http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=13542

>Also, Soldier Parachute
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
Oh if he can be airblasted while the chute is open, Dickblasting Pyros playing keep away with the solider or boosting his air time.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
Aw yis, I've long desired a soldier parachute. Combine with the Mantreads for precision Goomba Stomp.

>187654
I like that Facestab was considered as an actual item at one point.

>187655
Even more interesting if friendly pyros could also add air to the parachute, which could be helpful in some scenarios (especially paired with a skilled flarejumper). Also, depending on how limited mobility is, pyros could still be a problem with airblasting the rockets back (I assume this would be a secondary item.)
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>187656
wonder if one could pop the chute while deployed or is it jammed your respawn while the Solder was still afloat and he died. Now then its Dick Pyros keeping a solider corpse airborne to keep him from spawning, though more likely if he dies the chute then fails and he just crashes to earth.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
http://highlanderopen.org/

If I could get my graphics driver to stop crashing at random while playing TF2, I would be all over this. I've never done competitive before, and have some interest in it, but don't really know anyone/group to get involved with.
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>187675
>don't really know anyone/group to get involved with.

Pretty much this.
I'm not much for competitive matches, but even then I have a desire now and then to play as a team, tuning in the hardcore dificulty. Finding game partners is always the main problem with this.
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I also forgot to say, the closest thing to that is playing MVM on hard difficulties, Mann Up only, and being part of a special group for that and/or having game partners willing to play often.

Which in my case it is.

And YET.
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>Fixed item descriptions for Strange scores not appearing to update
>Fixed a bug where damage dealt and healing done Strange scores would stop incrementing
>Fixed an exploit where teleporters could build up a large amount of health
>Fixed a bug where premium accounts would temporarily appear to revert to free status
>Fixed deflected rocket explosion sounds playing repeatedly
>Fixed deflected Black Box rockets not giving health to the Pyro
>Fixed being able to apply the Strange Part: Buildings Destroyed tool to the Flying Guillotine
>Fixed several cosmetic items not cloaking properly for the Spy
>Added the AsiaFortress Cup Season 7 medals
>Community Request: Added SetCustomUpgradesFile input to the gamerules entity to allow servers to specify a different upgrades file
>Updated the localization files
>Updated the Eureka Effect
> Can now pickup buildings
> Repair and upgrade rates have been decreased
> Can teleport to your spawn room or your Teleporter Exit
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
I'm not even sure how I feel about this change.
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>187883
>Undocumented changes

>Updated the backpack icons for the Director's Vision, Meet the Medic, Schadenfreude, High Five! and Shred Alert taunts.
>Added a prompt above players in the High Five! taunt pose.
>Taunts that were push-to-hold are now toggles. Pressing the action key once will let the player hold their pose until the action key is pressed again
>Moved the Director's Vision from the Action slot to the currently unused Taunt slot.
>Fixed Spy's revolvers not using the Spy's hand in reload animations.
>Bread props now sometimes spawn when using a Teleporter.
>Updated the equip_region of El Muchacho.
>Updated the item type of Brawling Buccaneer and Hornblower.
>Added console commands tf_taunt_move_forward_speed, tf_allow_sliding_taunt and taunt_by_name.
>Dispensers now cost 70 metal when using the Gunslinger.
>Fixed a bug that let players move while taunting.
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thatother1dude/PKS88+dMMc
>187901
>Dispensers now cost 70 metal when using the Gunslinger.

That part was just a mistake: it was patched out later in the same day.
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I have been testing the new Eureka Effect for the last hours and I must say: It's so fucking fun.
The added ability to instantly teleport at your Teleport's exit whatever is on or off CAN add more strategy to the engineer's gameplay, add to that the ability to go back and forth thanks to this whenever you want, wherever you are. Makes me feel... Naughty

Now, Valve promised that this time they would be balancing weapons where they would give the class a more stronger part of their aspect, in exchange of making it weaker at other and not just slapping unrelated/unnecessary "downsides" (No random critical hits, +#% more knockback, etc.). This would be a perfect example of that: Half of the repair/upgrade rate. Crippling? Yes, but now think of the possibilities with the new upside.

But as a matter of fact, only time will say if it's truly a sidegrade or not, whatever it ends being op or up.
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Anonymous
If Valve is actually trying to make TF2 less shitty and hat focused I may have to dip back into it. Until then I've since switched teams to loadout and outside of Valves halloween events have been having far more fun than I have with TF2 in the past few years.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
http://www.teamfortress.com/countdown/suspense.htm

FUCK. I DON'T HAVE REGULAR INTERNET NOW.

Of course, the script for the countdown is from the DOTA 2 website, so it might be that I won't give a fuck anyway. I hope.
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>188064
Ninja'd

But pic very, very related.
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In Robin we trust.
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Anonymous
I can't wait to see all the new hats that launch with the movie
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>LOVE & WAR UPDATE
>Day 1
>15 minute movie "Expiration Date"
>Multiple new two-person taunts, with achievements
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http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/
http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/
http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/
http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/
http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
Derp, link: http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
DAT FUCKING SHORT.

Valve, if you ever make a feature-length TF2 movie, I will sell my own kidney on the black market to get the money to pay for a ticket.
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Anonymous
Well that was pretty funny. Saw some new weapons sprinkled in, but not too much. (first new thing since 2012 maybe?)

Some of the animations lacked impact and seemed a bit clunky, but it was some good stuff.
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As someone who used to spend a lot of time around people into TF2 slash, hoooooooooooooooo boy. Can't wait to see all the shipwars come back and watch the fangirls obsessed with making Scout a stereotypical yaoi bottom go nuts.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
Anyone know how to pull 1080p off Youtube my current stuff doesn't seem to work anymore since they changed the stream code. I want some HD Pauline
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>I have done nothing but teleport bread for the past three days
To be honest, I imagined Ms. Pauling's voice to be more high-pitched. It's too... normal sounding.

Good stuff. I wonder if they'll be doing any more shorts like this. The Frankenbread seems like a Halloween event, though, so odd that we're getting it now. Boss battle mode?
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>187369
That's some subtle shit right there, Valve. I almost forgot about that comic.
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>Miss Pauling's VA
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>188112
And her hair physics. Going full tilt.
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Meet the Bread Soldieryoutube thumb


>188112
That show is a laugh riot. I love how it tries to be deep and brooding, but it's just so godamn clumsy with it.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>188114
All the Figma, tis a riot looking at their stern and yelling faces. It really needs a comical dub.
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Anonymous
Oh god "I teleported bread" isn't going to become the next cake is it?
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Anonymous
What the fuck was up with Engineer and Soldier's voices at several points? Sounded nothing like the original voice actors at all.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>188117
Soldiers VA has Throat Cancer don't know about Engie, Nolan North was subbing at points.
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Anonymous
>188117
Because they weren't.

>188116
Oh come on, Soldier stole the show and he only had like 5 lines. You act like you've never spend three days doing nothing but teleporting bread before.

>188115
The dub IS a comical dub.
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Anonymous
>Update launches
>Medic doesn't get dick (again)
>Heavy gets another +/- stat weapon
>Demo gets more Demoknight melees
>Engineer gets something that's a cool idea, but useless
>Soldier gets all the fun and creative stuff again
>Valve continues to not know what the fuck to do with Pyro
>Sniper gets another point and click adventure style rifle
>Spy gets another thing that people will use to grief for another 100000 years
>Scout gets a new melee and secondary; both of which are still far inferior to his defaults in every way
>8000000 hats

My hopes can't be dashed if I don't get them up.
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Anonymous
>188118
Soldier has throat cancer? Really? Source cuz that sucks.
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Anonymous
>188118
Actually aside from a few generic voice clips, Nolan North did ALL of Engineer's lines. Didn't really recognize it wasn't the original most of the time. Damn that guy got range even if he's not allowed to use it most of the time.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>188123
Yeah, I didn't catch the difference in the voice until the scene where the Medic and Engie figured out the frankenbread.
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Anonymous
>188120
http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/index2.htm
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http://www.teamfortress.com/loveandwar/index2.htm

MORE BREAD. MORE FUN.
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Anonymous
>188137
>All those reskins at the bottom (seriously what's the fucking point?)
>Another demo shield that's superior to the other demo shields in every way just like the one before it
>Rocket Jumping tools
>More point and click adventures for Sniper
>Ok Scout primary
>Pyro, Medic, and Engi snubbed again
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
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Anonymous
>188137
>Shield
>Sniper
Wow it's like they didn't even bother to playtes-
>Valve
Oh ok

>Scattergun
>Minicrits
You'll get one shot off on their back. Two if you're lucky. Three if you really know what you're doing

>Parachute (Demo and Soldier)
What slot is this even? Neat.
>Rocket
Combine with Goombastompers and that shovel I can't remember the name of

>Reskins
Sup craft trash?
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Oh Valve.

It's going to take you longer than Capcom, at this rate.
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Anonymous
>firing the full clip of the air strike only does the damage of 2.25 regular rockets before your first kill

>if you jump with the 1st one you only have 2 rockets which together will only do 1.5 regular rocket damage

basically useless unless you're up against complete scrubs who you can get the first kill on despite being crippled. at least the clip size increase may work when using it on the ground or other weapons. maybe.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
Fuh. BASE Jumper is the only weapon I'm interested in. Hope tomorrow is good, otherwise I'll pretend there's no update and Valve just released a short.
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Anonymous
Tomorrow will just be maps and/or game modes as usual and that's even IF they do a day 3 since there was just an update tonight that added more cosmetics (yay 40+ new useless things) and the new weapons.
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Anonymous
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3244671

>Those Heavy, Engi, and Pyo changes
>Hey we know you guys didn't get anything new, so we just made your old stuff worse
>Have fun XDDD
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Pfft, wahtever, I believe all of this is great.
Also...

IT'S HAPPENING


>Love & War Update

>Added 5 new weapons, 15 new taunts, and 43 cosmetic items for the Love & War update
>Partner Taunts can now be performed with the opposing team
>Added a new Taunt Loadout with 8 slots so multiple taunts can be equipped at the same time
>Taunts are no longer equipped in the Action Slot
>Pressing the Taunt key in game now brings up the new Taunt Selection menu
>Pressing the taunt key while the Taunt Selection menu is open performs a weapon taunt, or joins a partner taunt

>Mann Co. Store

>Added 15 new taunts and a taunt bundle
>Added 5 new weapons and a weapon bundle
>Added 44 new cosmetics and a cosmetic bundle
>Added "Taunt" category into the store
>Added Mann Co. Stockpile Crate Key
>The "Hats" and "Misc" categories have been merged into "Cosmetics"

>Items

>Added the Mann Co. Stockpile Crate to the droplist
>Each Mann Co. Stockpile Crate can be repeatedly shuffled to contain a set of 4 possible items
>Added the Mann Co. Audition Reel. Contains taunts and a rare chance at an unusual taunt
>Updated Mann Co. Crates to display which Unusual Series they can potentially output
>Added Bread Box Special Crafting Recipe. This recipe will no longer be available after July 9th, 2014. Items from the Bread box have a chance to be strange.
>Added crafting recipes for newly added weapons
>Added Killstreak Kits to MvM for newly added weapons
>Added OzFortress Season 11 tournament medals

>Weapon changes and updates

>With The Hitman's Heatmaker, pressing ‘reload’ now activates focus when it is full
>The Axtinguisher now does mini-crit damage from the front and full crit damage from behind to burning targets
>The Bushwacka can no longer randomly crit
>All mini-guns now have damage and accuracy ramp up after they start firing. Full accuracy and damage is >reached 1 second after firing.
>All Demoman stickybombs now have damage ramp up. Full damage is reached 2 seconds after firing.
>Updated Loch-n-Load reload animation
>Sentry bullets are now affected by damage falloff outside of sentry scan range
>Sentry bullet damage has been changed so it calculates damage based on the sentry's position, not the Engineer's

>Misc Changes

>Updated the Halloween holiday to automatically be enabled when the server runs an _event map
>Added a check to prevent achievement announcement spam
>Converted several weapon models to use the c_models system
>Updated the localization files

>Bug Fixes

>Fixed an exploit where charging Demoman could turn more than allowed
>Fixed a bug where Halloween spellbooks were overriding PDAs and Disguise Kits
>Fixed The Director's Vision taunt not playing both variations for the Pyro
>Fixed the Pyro's spell audio not sounding like the rest of the Pyro's audio
>Fixed a bug that would sometimes cause items to unequip themselves
>Fixed a dedicated server crash related to using 'mp_forcecamera 0' with one player on the server
>Fixed a regression with the trigger_gravity entity not correctly applying its settings
>Fixed another exploit where Engineer buildings could build up a large amount of health
>Fixed a server performance issue related to the item_teamflag entity
>Fixed the itemtest command
>Fixed cosmetics shared between multiple classes not rendering correctly
>Updated the cosmetic item list to sort by name

>Map Fixes

>Updated cp_granary
>Removed collision from lights and small props protruding from walls
>Fixed collision on fences
>Fixed the tire props near Blu's forward spawn so players may no longer jump up to the spawn door platform
>Fixed players shooting through gaps around forward spawn doors
>Fixed door protruding through roof on Red's forward spawn
>Fixed a collision bug that gave players access to the roof above Red's spawn door
>Prevented players from building inside spawn room doors
>Adjusted area portals to improve rendering and performance
>Updated koth_harvest_final
>Added metal panel prop to Blu building, which now mirrors the jump up on the Red side
>Small performance increase through prop fade adjustments
>Players can no longer build inside spawn doors
>Updated pl_upward
>Fixed physics debris triggering the payload cart’s finale explosion
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>188147

>Update hitting sooner than expected.
>No weapon reworks/balancing like last summer.

If there is such thing like the "best" moment to use the old "varying degrees of want" expression, this would be it.
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Anonymous
I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed. /vg/ is losing its shit over the taunts though, just like Valve wants people too. Tons of metal and keeps are being thrown around.

It's cute how it takes three hats to make a bead box and the bread box contains reskins that aren't even stranges most of the time according to people uncrating.
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>The Axtinguisher now does mini-crit damage from the front and full crit damage from behind to burning targets

Yes, YES
I've been waiting for something like this.
I fucking despised with a passionate hatred the axtinguisher+degreaser combo, and this is a fine nerf for that.
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Anonymous
In an unexpected turn of events, /vg/ loves the hell out of this update and Plus4 hates it.
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Anonymous
>188156
No, reality has started to set in for a decent amount of folks on /vg/
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Eh, it may not be as perfect as I expected, but I still love this update.
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Anonymous
>188159
What is the problem here?
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>188154
>What TF2 Has Become
I'm ok with this.

Have been checking weapons and so far:

- The Back Scatter is a godsend for the scouts that flank often;
- The B.A.S.E. Jumper is fucking fun and does give you great mobility (To be used with precaution, though);
- The Air Strike feels... Liberty launcher-ish... I think even worse, really;
- The Classic is a concept I have yet to grasp. I mean, the upside is being able to use the sniper rifle without a scope, in exchange, you can't headshot unless the meter is fully charged and body shots do -10% of damage, AND you need to charge it manually. So far it seems this thing is a crutch, and I rarely use that word, the last and only time I have used it is when I was giving a damn about the liberty launcher. I believe the only way this thing can be truly what they were aiming for, some kind of carbine, would be removing the movement penalty when no scoping, and maybe lifting a bit the firing speed.
- The Tide Turner is just DELICIOUS. I will be honest and say that I haven't tested the weapon itself yet, but I used to use the turning script exploit before it was patched whenever I went demo. Now we have a shield that officially does that AND also a full recharge whenever you kill someone while charging. This... is perhaps one of the most awesome things that valve has ever spawned. You may say is op compared to the other shields, I say, the other shields need to get better at turning. Also, buff the Splendid Screen's resistances to match with the Tide Turner's or better.

Welp, there goes another night of sleep.....
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
Not even a "new" map? Full meh.

>188147
>>Sentry bullets are now affected by damage falloff outside of sentry scan range
Oh ho! Now a single Wrangler won't be as effective as a wall.

>188152
M-m-muh puff-n-sting...
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>Craft 2 of the new weapons
>Feel regret for doing it after testing
>Try to sell to remotely get something out of it
>Everyone selling for at least 1 ref each
>Try to sell it for 2 rec each
> 7694587927084546578924104829465 Adds

THE FUCK YOU DID GABE
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Anonymous
DAY 3 IS HERE!
[spoiler]lol jk, just bug fixes
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>188186
We will never again have a Day 3, Gaben found out about TF2 updates and expanded his ban on "3" to include them.
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Anonymous
>188186
Day 1 was love
Day 2 was war
Update was called Love and War

Shame it wasn't called Love, War, and Actual Weapon Updates
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
Some are saying the Bread Sapper is super quiet and doesn't make the beep beep static sounds.
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> Set Codes
>
>"11111111111" - Scout Ninja Set + 1
>
> Southie Shinobi
> Classified Coif
> Frickin Sweet Ninja Hood
> Red Socks
>
>
>"1111111111111111111111" - Scout Retro Set + 1
>
> Frontier Djustice
> Argyle Ace
> Paisley Pro
> Promade Prince
>
>
>" Rambunctious" (include space) - Full Demoman Set + 1 Allclass
>
> Six Pack Abs
> Seeing Double
> Eye Catcher
> Allbrero
>
>
>"Crabs" - Full Demoman set + 1 Allclass
>
> Six Pack Abs
> Seeing Double
> Tipped Lid
> Allbrero
>
>
>"Chrono" - Pyro Biker Set + 1
>
> Smoking Skid Lid
> Gas Guzzler
> Frickin Sweet Ninja Hood
> Lunatic's Leathers
>
>
>"gottascootfast" - Engy Builder's Basics Set + 2
>
> Tools of the Trade
> Level Three Chin
> Sengoku Scorcher
> Joe-on-the-Go
>
>
>"Spy creepin' around here" - Engy Builder's Basics Set + 2
>
> Egghead's Overalls
> Joe-on-the-Go
> Lonesome Loafers
> Tools of the Trade
>
>
>"hl2.exe" - Engy Builder's Basics Set + 2
>
> Joe-on-the-Go
> Tools of the Trade
> Aviator Assassin
> Red Socks
>
>
>"steam summer adventure" - Engy Builder's Basic Set + 2
>
> Joe-on-the-Go
> Tools of the Trade
> Spook Specs
> Southie Shinobi
>
>
>"Let's do this Texas style" - Engy Builder's Basics Set + 2
>
> Joe-on-the-Go
> Tools of the Trade
> Gas Guzzler
> Smoking Skid Lid
>
>
>"dota 2" - Sniper's Straight Shooter Set + 1 + 1 allclass
>
> Triggerman's Tactical
> Scoper's Smoke
> Frontier Djustice
> Vive la France
>
>
>"SFM" - Sniper Straight Shooter Set + 1 + 1 allclass
>
> Triggerman's Tactical
> Scoper's Smoke
> Eye-Catcher
> Endothermic Exowear
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>
>"team fortress 2" - Spy Pilot Set + 2
>
> Lunatics Leathers
> Classified Coif
> Aviator Assassin
> Sky Captain
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Multiple All-Class Codes
>
>
>"Tip of the Hats" - 2 all-class + 2
>
> Tipped Lid (All-Class)
> Argyle Ace (Scout)
> Triggerman's Tacticals (Sniper)
> Vive la France (All-Class)
>
>
>"any word" - 2 all-class + 2
>
> Tipped Lid
> Vive la France
> Allbrero
> Combustible Kabuto
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>188228
And these are...?
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>188229

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mann_Co._Stockpile_Crate#Stockpile
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Anonymous
>All those conga lines
>All that Strange weapon farming
My god, it was glorious...
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Anonymous
>188268
You know, I figured it would happen eventually, but already conga is getting old.

I mean it was funny as fuck the day of release, and I mean it was glorious. But the joke is over guys, fucking stop. It's essentially an official version of "friendly pootis heavy" and spycrab. "y u kill conga, u no fun :c" It's especially annoying when the characters won't shut the hell up. I've heard "CONGA CONGA CONGA, LET US DANCE GENTLEMEN" a million times already and it's driving me up the wall.

I miss when taunts were just a quick funny thing you could do that didn't interrupt the game for more than a few seconds, not something you could use to troll your own team when they're losing and need you right now.
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Anonymous
http://backpack.tf/market

Just found this. Pretty handy and not too gougy on most items.
Traded someone today for a Strange Flamethrower with Extinguished and Post Humorous parts on it for 2.66 Ref so that was nice.

I kind of want more strange parts or to get one of the weapon sheens, but they're either expensive or tacky. Also most of my resources are tied up in warehouse points.
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Anonymous
This is the first time I've played the game since the Halloween update and even then I didn't play much. Holy fuck am I shit at the game now. I miss Vanilla. And being good.

Any good class tutorial videos around or should I just keep rolling Medic necause at least I'm still ok at that.
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Anonymous
>188364
Check the wiki, there are good tips and tutorials.
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>188384
I'll check again. I remember back during Halloween, they where still quite dated, but I'll check again.
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Anonymous
>Valve reverts Sticky change
>DemoMains the world round celebrate by continuing to not learn how to adapt or play their class
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Anonymous
Considering trading my Genuine Ball Kicking Boots. They an't doing me any good anyway:

http://bazaar.tf/trade/866715
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20642337
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10163516
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Anonymous
>the Black Scottish Cyclops retakes his throne

On one hand, yay, unneeded Engineer buff reverted. On the other, boo, Demomen can once again shut down entire servers as soon as more than one exists.
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>188403

And here I thought that Demo wouldn't be one-sided anymore and make things like Demoknight* more viable.

*Although, the introduction of the Tide Turner made it less of a joke subclass and more viable now in PvP, the other shields really need to catch up with it.
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Anonymous
http://tf2r.com/raffles.html

Pretty neat thing.
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Anonymous
I can't play TF2 anymore with all the people who act like children, trash talking shit like "git gud scrub".
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>188503
Hence why I'm back to PonyFortress. Solid Play on the normal and the Hero Server is a nice alternative sometimes.
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Anonymous
>188504
>I wanted to avoid people who act like children
>So I went to PonyFortress
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>188507
Funny but true.
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Anonymous
>188564
Good lord his last few gameplay videos have been godtier.
He's what I WANT to be...

All the combos I think of and the way I play... and he just does it.
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So I'm reading []TVTropes[] just to see what the people there had to say about the new update if any, and under Internet Backdraft I'm seeing this:

>the description of the spellbook from the update page, quoted below, a Take That against fanfic writers (more specifically yaoi writers).
>http://www.teamfortress.com/bazbobarrabus/
>"The scariest part about these books is that they AREN'T REAL BOOKS AT ALL! They're self-published! Feel the desperation dripping from their not professionally-edited pages! Written by sad, stay-at-home wizards with big dreams and rudimentary Photoshop skills, these poorly-assembled tomes contain magic spells of unspeakable lethality, nestled in between long passages of copyrighted characters having sex with each other! Awooooo!"

People actually took offense to this? If anything it was a light-hearted jab at Internet nerds in general with a nod towards all the homo, not anything particularly mean-spirited at all. Jesus christ these folks are way too fucking sensitive.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
And why yaoi writers? Can't slash and yuri writers be offended, too? That article offends them for not being mentioned.
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>188609
I took any commentary on the low quality of TF2 fanfic as a joke about Sturgeon's Law in general. Because frankly for every good writer there WILL be nine that are indefensibly awful no matter what they write about, and if this offends you then you deserve to feel bad for being a big fucking baby.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>188612
>for every good writer there WILL be nine that are indefensibly awful no matter what they write about
>nine
Whoa, you must be one hell of an optimist.
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I made this for reference.
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Happy MURRIKKKKA day everyone!
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Anonymous
Am I the only one who wants this game to well...end? I realize it's still extremely popular and they're going to milk it for all it's worth until the end of time, but I want there to be a final update. I mean just a REALLY huge update to end TF2 with a bang. End the story in the comics, add a whole slew of new cosmetics, new taunts, new weapons, perfectly rebalanced weapons, new maps, a new game mode or two, and the biggest and most ambitious SFM movie to date. And then just stop, and any further updates are bugfixes or rebalanced weapons.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
Has anyone made heads or tails of the spawn room bulletin boards yet?

>188708
We only have three of the six promised comics in this mini-series, so it's not certain where those are heading. Considering it started with disbanding the mercs, it could be heading towards a game wrap-up and/or lead into TF3. But hats and keys are still easy money, so even if Valve did move on to another game they would likely still release cosmetic community items for as long as those items bring in more money than it costs to make them.
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>http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=13661
>Tick tick tick
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>188928
I think you misread the date on that post.
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Goddammit, false alarm, I confused the dates. And I can't delete that post.
Nothing is happening.
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Well, I gotta admit, Valve has been shipping a lot of updates recently. Minimal updates and/or bug fixes, but in the end they are paying attention to the game.
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>189438
Also, very constant updates for the two beta maps.
I need to play more Cactus Canyon.
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>189455

As much as I want to try them, I refuse to do so because I feel like it will spoil the final version for me.
I just try to believe they do not exist.
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Autonymoosex4vv0ZYuAo
>189469
I enjoy playing them, because they do away with the "why the fuck did you guys vote for dustbowl AGAIN" feeling. Even if we play it endlessly, every two weeks or so it gets an update that can majorly change it, so it's not "Yeah, a sniper goes here, a sentry goes here, the scout gets behind them here, we all know the drill" and adds an extra level of interest to the maps.

Of course, of the times I've played catcuscanyon (and have yet to see a cactus) I've gotten to the third part exactly once.
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>189481
>and have yet to see a cactus

HOW IN THE MOTHER OF FUCK YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT CACTUS GOD I HAVEN'T PLAYED THE MAP I'M STILL AWARE OF ITS PRESENCE

FUCKING HERESY THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
EVER
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Autonymoosex4vv0ZYuAo
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=14274
>Snipers can no longer jump immediately after firing a scoped shot
I... uh. Okay? This makes sniper dueling a tad harder, I guess.

>Updated pl_cactuscanyon
>Stage 2
>Removed from the sequence so stage 1 links to stage 3
Stage 2 was the most annoying part of it, especially that giant downhill corridor. I wish they would expand Stage 3 a bit to make up for it, though; maybe an initial capture point before you get into the train yard.

>189540
I didn't say I wasn't aware of it. Just that I haven't seen it.
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Anonymous
>189623
I've always just ducked instead.
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>189625
Same. Maybe ducking is slower than jumping and you're less likely to get headshot if you jump? I dunno.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/09/05/team-fortress-2-poster-mistaken-for-us-propaganda-on-russian-state-television/
>As part of an effort to show how the United States uses propaganda to influence the mindset of its citizens, a historical documentary recently aired by Russia's Channel One offered up what it said was a First World War poster portraying German soldiers as monsters who literally eat babies. One problem: It wasn't a soldier, it was the Soldier, and the poster is actually Team Fortress 2 fan art.
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Anonymous
>189909
So they can translate eat babies but not team demoman?
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Anonymous
>189925
It's very obviously not a mistake but a deliberate attempt to misinform and create ressentiments.
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Anonymous
>189926
Its a really pathetic attempt, the shots showing putin hunting topless and playing judo with people were blatantly obvious propaganda but this is straight-up Fox News level stupid that can be easily disproved.
Hell there's alot of Russians on Steam.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>189925
I don't think anything was translated, they just saw a guy eating a baby and somehow thought Soldier was German? Then Putin said "good enough" and they put it out.
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thatother1dude/PKS88+dMMc
>189933
The pic was a parody of actual American propaganda from WWI and WWII depicting Germans like some sort of goblin people, though I've never seen one with actual baby eating.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>189935
Which makes it all the more humorous because I'm sure the original posters are somewhere on the internet, yet the station went with a video game parody.
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Thanks Honest Trailers.
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>189940

>Scout - the first one to die
>Pyro - for those who don't like to aim
>Engineer - for those who don't like to play
>Medic - the class everyone loves, but no one wants to play
>Spy - the class nobody loves, but everyone wants to play

>12 bucks for a sombrero?! I can buy a real one for less! DIOS MIO

Those guys are fucking awesome
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>Watching the Gamergate implosion

Well played, Ms. Quinn. Well played.
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The Sneaky Tiki
>189955
It's not like it's her fault these chods are doing this, she's been Buster Keatoning her way through this.

//youtube.com/watch?v=FN2SKWSOdGMyoutube thumb
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Anonymous
Zoe Quinn's not a good person but this has gone on far too long and gone way too far.
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Anonymous
>189957
"Not a good person" in what sense, based on the new revelations? Or do you just feel that the premeditated and malicious slander that she has now shown to have taken place against her still counts despite how she's now shown it to all be faked?
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The Sneaky Tiki
>189957
I'm sorry what? How is she not a good person, for godsake look at this bullshit that's been happening, her composure is remarkable.
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Anonymous
>189959
>189960
As I said this has gone too far, this should never have been an issue for the industry, it was strictly something between her and her BF that has spun into utter madness with death threats and shit that shouldn't be happening.

Cheating's still bad though. Also Depression Quest is an incredibly condescending portrayal of depression that has always kind of bothered me but that's besides the point.
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Anonymous
The normally awful Escapist did a strangely thorough bit of coverage of the last 3-4 weeks, and the thread afterward talks about more chatlogs and other things. It's the most sane bit of discussion I've seen, everywhere else, SA, /v/, twitter, tumblr, is so fucking emotionally charged half the time it's impossible to even tell what is currently going on aside of the usual deafening SJW/MRA screamfest.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.859977-Exclusive-4Chan-and-Quinn-Respond-to-Gamergate-Chat-Logs
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rasputin_zero
>189955
>189956
>189957
>189959
>189960
>189961
I feel it incumbent to point out that this is the Team Fortress 2 thread.

Who wants to start the next general?
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>189963
Done, now back to business.
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Autonymoosex4vv0ZYuAo
I hope we get a Boss mode, like MvM but made for a larger team against a single large opponent. Weak points, flip it over, massive damage, etc. The bread monster from the recent short gave me the idea, and I was disappointed it wasn't part of the Love & War update.

Instead of the medic shield (which would be useless for this) the alternate-uber would make the target hulk out and grow huge for devastating damage.
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Anonymous
Well the clothing is up now and all the Scream Fortress things have me feeling hopeful that this year won't suck and we'll get a decent amount of non restricted items. Maybe even a weapon reskin or two...

Also that crab Spy plush is adorable. The little cigarette totally sells it.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>190001
I felt the Map from last year was quite fun.
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Anonymous
>190010
The Halloween maps are almost always fun. However they do skimp quite a lot on cosmetics and items that you can use more than 30 days max a year while they seem perfectly ok with players running around in santa and christmas tree hats wearing elf booties and beating people with candy canes all the while releasing reskins on top of it.
This in comparison with the restricted items and a map that's only played 2 weeks on and then forgotten about and rarely revisited the next year makes the whole ScreamFortress thing rather underwhelming in any lasting way.
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>190001
>tfw nobody ever sells in an XLT
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So I will be posting it.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/September_10,_2014_Patch


> Added taunts to the items that can be uploaded to the Steam Workshop
> Added new "Taunt" and "Halloween" tags to the Steam Workshop
> Previous entries marked with the "Halloween 2013" tag will automatically be updated to use the new tag in the coming days
> Added tournament medals for the ETF2L and RETF2 EE22[1]
> Client/server performance improvements
> Improved client memory usage by updating weapons to only be loaded on demand
> Improved edict usage on servers to help eliminate "out of edicts" errors during round restarts
> Fixed a server crash caused by using the "map" command in the console while the server is running
> Fixed a client crash when switching between windowed-mode and fullscreen for Mac OS X and Linux clients
> Re-enabled HTML MOTD support for Mac OS X and Linux clients
> Extended the server's "status" command to display edict usage and player/bot counts
> status output also includes basic class stats...not fully implemented yet
> Fixed custom content not being shown while watching .dem files that were recorded on servers running with sv_pure
> Fixed an exploit that involved players killing teammates via telefrag by switching to Spectator
> Fixed bad LODs for The Angel of Death coat for the Medic
> Fixed push triggers applying push values twice when lag compensation is being done
> Fixed a Hammer crash related to changing entity types for an existing entity
> Fixed Strange flamethrowers not getting kill credit for deflected projectiles
> Fixed mini-crit and taunt-invite icons being orphaned in the world
> Fixed the Festive Force-a-Nature using the wrong taunt animation
> Fixed the difficulty value not displaying correctly in the Mann vs. Machine scoreboard
> Fixed Mann vs. Machine bots floating in the air when they die from an explosion
> Fixed the Pyro's clap sounds clipping the voice lines during the Party Trick taunt
> Fixed the Short Circuit creating its firing effects when being deployed
> Fixed Mini-Sentry collision hull being scaled smaller than it should be
> The Frying Pan can now accept Kills While Explosive Jumping strange parts
> Updated the equip_region for the Mining Light and Lord Cockswain's Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe
> Updated the materials for the Apparition's Aspect and made it paintable
> Updated the Eternaween vote so it cannot be initiated by clients without using the Eternaween
> Updated the localization files
> Updated pl_cactuscanyon
> Completed permanent removal of previous stage 2 from the map
> Removed the rollback hill in stage 2, and adjusted neighboring u-turn
> Adjusted the right-hand spawn exit for Blu in stage 2
> Reworked Sniper window above underpass in stage 2
> Adjusted spawn times in stage 2
> Added flatcars to the train in stage 2
> Blu side path from cart spawn to underpass is now a drop-down in stage 2
> Widened a doorway along the cart-path in stage 2
> Updated rd_asteroid
> Removed spawn advantage for attackers that die in the enemy base
> Moved health and ammo above the front door stairs further into the base
> Increased bot count. Summed total health and points in each section remains the same.
> Power core pickups now give health and ammo to the collector
> Removed small health kit above cave exit[2]
> Added medium ammo kit in the caves near the medium health kit
>
>Undocumented changes
>
> Updated the backpack image for the Apparition's Aspect.
> Updated the item_type for the Cold War Luchador, the Mining Light, Le Party Phantom and the Doublecross-Comm.
> Fixed a spelling mistake in the description for the Coffin Kit.
> Updated the Bat Outta Hell, Ham Shank, and Golden Frying Pan to accept Kills While Explosive Jumping strange parts.
> Added new A Robot design for Asteroid.
> New gibs have been added, but are currently unused.
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I would like to take a moment here:

WHAT
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Autonymoosex4vv0ZYuAo
>190053
They raised the hitbox?
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Wait what
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thatother1dude/PKS88+dMMc
>190053
>190058
What did it look like before? I can only find pictures of projectile hitboxes for classes (which actually go to the SIDES even farther than that).

I've consistently found the worst thing about Mini-sentries is that nothing else in the game you have to hit is that small, so I'd rather they make the model taller than change the hitbox back.
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Anonymous
>190052
>190058
>190059
>190060
Would you fucking relax? It's a bugfix, not a nerf. From the very beginning, as a Sniper (any class really) you could shoot the sentry's glowing light, but it would do no damage. Now you can. That's all it is.
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>190061
>It's a bugfix, not a nerf.

That's semantics.

>From the very beginning, as a Sniper (any class really) you could shoot the sentry's glowing light, but it would do no damage. Now you can.

Nope: this is the hitbox (singular) for collisions with players and projectiles. The hitboxes for hitscan weapons are unchanged.
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Anonymous
>waahhh my spammable fun-destroyer is now slightly easier to hit

Eliminating those annoying instances of rockets and grenades passing THROUGH the damn thing was long overdue.

Can't wait for the inevitable idiotic Enginerd whining when Valve tries out a new Sticky nerf that doesn't also buff their class (hint: "Demo OP nerf pls" generally doesn't refer to his ability to counter you; that's his job).

Fuck Engineers. They won't be happy until it takes three simultaneous übers to get rid of one sentry.
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>demo dominates me
>go sniper
>see him
>am about to get sweet revenge
>scout runs in front of him at the last second
>shoot scout, dominate scout
>hear domination music which is the same as revenge music, so assume I got demo
>taunt
>demo kills me
>leaves server so I can't get revenge

I think if I was ever in some sort of LAN party playing TF2, and someone dominated me consistently, I'd throw a bottle at his head.
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Anonymous
>190086
Have you tried maybe confirming your kills and actually looking at your screen when you play?
Nice blog about your point and click adventure though.
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Anonymous
>190086
>I think if I was ever in some sort of LAN party playing TF2, and someone dominated me consistently, I'd throw a bottle at his head.

So basically you are the sort of person that every gaming community needs fewer of?
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>190071

Annoying =/= OP

Also, the engineer has never been OP, the exceptions would be when he is using certain unlocks, and the gunslinger certainly wasn't one of them.

Also, demoman has been the most OP of the classes since forever (followed by the medic), engineer or not.
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>190106

OOOOOOOOOOOooooooon the other hand.....

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I personally never had problems fighting with the mini, with the exception of those times when there were 2 or more players backing it up and having it assissting them.

The hitbox is still huge, though. So far the thing doesn't even stay a chance now, and the sentry being the ability and the main source of damage of an engineer, yeah, I don't think how that is gonna work anymore when using it as it was already squishy to beging with.

>190064
They say hitscan weapons are also affected by this, probably true since they edited the update page and how my sentries were mowed down into nothing from any shooting angle:
>Fixed Mini-Sentry collision hull and hitbox being scaled smaller than they should be
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
>190107
Mini was never about having it in the open, though; stealth is a big thing, leading unsuspecting opponents into a corridor with it hidden. I have it paired with the revenge shotgun (forget the name at the moment) for Attacking.

I should play around and see how pairing it with the Eureka Effect (lead someone into a trap, teleport while they're distracted by the mini, repeat) and/or the Rescue Ranger (lead into trap, use RR to pick up from distance as enemy turns to destroy it, place down immediately) works. At least then I won't get mad when I lose my Revenge shots...
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Anonymous
>190106
>Annoying =/= OP

Yeah, that's why I called it the fun-destroyer.

>Engineer unlocks

Yes, those were always the problem. Never stopped Engineer fanboys from defending them though.
Triple health, double DPS and infinite range for the sentry? JUST USE SIMULTANEOUS ÜBERS LOL
Piercing infinte range flamethrower particles that drain über? JUST DODGE IT LOL
Completely negating one hard counter and one soft counter? JUST PLAY SPY LOL

>demoman has been the most OP of the classes since forever

Against players. When Valve reverted the Sticky nerf, Engineer fanboys had the gall to claim that Demomen easily being able to destroy sentries is "winbombing" and that a sentry should always require more than one player to take it down.

Fuck Engineers.
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>190108

Frontier Justice.

And you are right, the mini wasn't made to blatantly deploy it in front of the enemy, but the thing is, mine kept getting destroyed easily even on high grounds where it (used) to excel.
Now, I usually play with good players and those things should be expected from them, but now they just delete it as soon as someone sees it without doing much difference at all, I might as well just use my shotgun or pistol.

Also
>Pairing Mini Sentry with Eureka Effect
wat
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>190109

Yeah, it wouldn't be that bad if, for example, the Pompson hadn't infinite ammo (but then you may have a dispenser) and a hitbox of a truck. They do need work, specially the cheap circuit.

>Against players.
And EVERYTHING else, too. And I wasn't at favor of the last nerf valve proposed for the sticky launcher, it was horrible. Still, the problem isn't the demoman at all, it's the darn SL; it has proven to be the most versatile and dangerous weapon of the game, even more than the medigun/minigun, I don't even know why Valve classifies it as secondary weapon.
And I'm saying this as a player that doesn't stick to 1 or 2 classes only, I actually play demoman at times.
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Anonymous
>190111
The Pomson needs a different concept entirely because the Engineer has no business countering übercharges. Thankfully Valve removed the penetration so you can at least hide behind teammates (like you're already supposed to do anyway).

>And EVERYTHING else, too.

The Stickybomb Launcher was never intended to be a purely defensive weapon. While it is without question the best weapon in the game, it functioning as a sentry counter is necessary. What else short of an übercharge reliably counters sentries? Rockets and grenades can be out-repaired and Spies need team support to do anything at all against a non-potato Engineer.

I'm not expecting a solution anytime soon though. Valve "balances" the game around bad players (e.g. Wrangler still has the shield, no Atomizer nerf, Reserve Shooter buff, nerfed Axtinguisher instead of Degreaser, bullshit DDS buff still not reverted), so nerfing stickies just turns Heavy-Medic combos into the new gamebreakers.
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>190112

Point taken. And as long as things like the -actual- wrangler exist, I wouldn't mind having the SL around more; one good example is mvm, bots aren't smart enough to get the work done but they do pack a lot of raw power, specially in groups. Even a non-upgraded sentry with the wrangler is their bane, see that wave of soldiers/demos coming? A giant causing havoc? They are already dead because their target just takes that long to die.

Actually, there are only 2 things I didn't like about the Mini-Sentry:
- Having knockback; the only nerf it needs is reduced knockback or none at all, besides a fair hitbox adjustment, but that last one is more neutral.
- Wrangled ones; OH BOY if that's not bullshit.
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"Dear Valve,

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3259763

Please stop listening to SPUF.

With love,
the rest of the TF2 community."

I might as well follow my own advice. I stopped browsing that cesspit a long time ago, now I remember why.

And yes, I actually sent it.
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Something that I didn't noticed from the last update.
>Completed permanent removal of previous stage 2 from the map

That's too bad.
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>Added experimental cpu_frequency_monitoring convar to detect thermal throttling.

It's like Valve is actually trying to care about performance.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
I want Valve to create a female merc team. I believe they have the ability to pull off realistic female mercenaries, without needing to give everyone yoga pants and massive cleavage. While the community might rage (because women in games just does that, I guess), it would be a huge middle finger to a number of other devs, namely Ubisoft and their "women are hard to put in a game" line.

As a cherry on top, they can create Sexy outfits... for the male mercs only.

Pyro would still be pyro, though; the uniform material is the only thing that changes.
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>190211
That's from the huge update from today, right?
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>190214
Well if they are TF3, most would be big Russian ladies with Uncle Heavy still being the Heavy. One sister has already staked her claim.
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Autonymoosex4vv0ZYuAo
>Demoman can no longer detonate sticky bombs while taunting
Incoming butthurt

>Strange Ranks are no longer displayed on the web (Trade, Steam backpack, Market) and only show 'Strange' as a prefix
Why?

>Continued art-pass process
I assume that means that more textures have been filled in. If so, neat.

>190218
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=14397
Yeah.
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Anonymous
>190214
Uhh people have been doing that for quite a while, most likely Valve will hire ChemicalAlia as an official designer or something. I know she did a Medic and Heavy one and the Sniper and Engineer are pretty good.
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Anonymous
>190221
>Strange Ranks are no longer displayed on the web (Trade, Steam backpack, Market) and only show 'Strange' as a prefix
>Why?

Probably to prevent low-effort scams ("selling EPIC weapon")

>190214

If they ever add female models the Pyro has to look exactly the same. Anything else would ruin the joke.
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>190222
Her Spy is pretty great as well.
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>190222
Her Spy is pretty great as well.
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>190214
People never raged about the fanmade female models that already exist, I don't see why female mercs who aren't DoA characters would piss them off than any of the other shit they tend to cry about (OK so they did a little, there was a lot of outrage over a crappy Scout Rule 63 made early on because it was too "sexy" and looked dumb as shit).

The TF2 community might be a bunch of whiny babies but it's not like they're Red Pill goddamnit. Even /v/'s misogyny is motivated half the time by sheer contrarianism and loledgy kids. I can bet if society actually regressed to 1800's gender roles they'd change their tune and become misandrists instead.
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>190231
I would rage simply because I don't believe in the whole "selectable gender/sexuality/religious beliefs" crap in so many games nowadays. Unless the MC is literally meant to represent the player, you can have a much stronger character if you design them from the ground up instead of leaving it up to the player to decide. Which is what Valve did when making the game. You want equal representation in games? Make a fucking female character that's fleshed out and interesting, don't make a stupidly generic one and throw in a bunch of options for players to have it their way to please the media and tumblr crowd.

I mean if you're going to have female mercs, you might as well have a selectable skin color, language, accent and body type for every merc as well. It seems like a waste of time in order to please a very, very small minority. (Seriously, how many women who play TF2 go "Man this game is so fun, if only I was playing as a girl"?)

And before you filter this whole post as "MRA misogyny" bullshit, I'm a woman and have logged in probably 2k hours on this game.
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>190233
Alright, you goddamn MRA. A single set of new characters can't harm the game's visual identity any harder than the 5 billion or so hats that came before it.
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>190231
>The TF2 community might be a bunch of whiny babies but it's not like they're Red Pill goddamnit
I meant gaming community at large; at least in the TF2 circles I see, I think they'd be indifferent about it.

>190233
>I mean if you're going to have female mercs, you might as well have a selectable skin color, language, accent and body type for every merc as well
Why not? The accent might not applicable since each class has a region stereotype they play to (female mercs could expand this), but if Demoman can be African-Scottsman (Scottish?) then I don't see why skin color can't be mixed up for other classes. Body type wouldn't really be an option, because Valve has made it clear they have a heavy focus on silhouettes to make it easy to identify class from a distance. (This also means the female mercs would be constrained in their body type so they would have a silhouette roughly matching their male counterparts.) Actually, they already have body type accessories for the Engineer (going super-fat), but those are relatively minor.

>It seems like a waste of time in order to please a very, very small minority.
My goal in suggesting it wasn't to please a minority (as you suggested, I don't know anyone--men or women--who complain about the lack of a female merc), but to rustle some jimmies (on both sides! I'm sure there would be feminists who will complain about the female mercs in some way) while probably also renewing interest in the game. At the very least, gaming media would be all over it. I am also highly interested in what Valve would do on an official basis.

Valve can only make so many hats, and since we've had an update for every class their "events" have been increasingly uninspired and haven't done much to change up gameplay. (Not that female mercs would change anything, gameplay-wise...) So it's either Team Fortress 3 or they start doing other kind of updates, and we know how Gaben feels about the number 3...
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Anonymous
Valve isn't going to add female mercs because that'd require designing and implementing proper models, hiring VAs, and would piss off half the people asking for them anyway; it would also add either higher costs or more noticeable gaps to any future updates that add new voicelines.

>190233
Don't worry, Valve won't hurt your precious feelings. They value money more than "tumblr cred".
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Female mercs is totally a possibility in the event of a TF3 but they'd never add them to TF2 because part of TF2's design is that each class has a specific silhouette that allows for immediate identification, so you'd either have to make female versions that also somehow have the exact same builds as the male versions or add new classes.

Neither of these are going to happen.
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>190236
>it would also add either higher costs
Gaben can take a swipe of a fishing net in his money pit

>or more noticeable gaps to any future updates that add new voicelines.
Valve Time
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>190238
>spend money to please a minority of the players

Valve "could" also make all additional cosmetic items available for free, but they're a business. As long as their decisions don't actively screw players over I won't judge them for not making unprofitable changes.

I'd rather see Valve port TF2 to Source 2 for better performance and hit detection before sinking time and money on alternate merc models with entirely new voiceline sets.
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>190239
And I'd rather them make a new game than make a shitton of hats, but here we are. It'd be way less work than you're making it out to be, and they'd be just as able to make money from it as they do anything else. It's not like they'd be spending ten million dollars and would get back a twenty.
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>190239
>I'd rather see Valve port TF2 to Source 2 for better performance and hit detection before sinking time and money on alternate merc models with entirely new voiceline sets.
That's so gonna happen, according to most of rumors and the alpha release of Dota 2 Workshop Tools. Alongside L4D3 and HL3.
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I can kinda understand where people are coming from about being hesitant about Valve implementing female skins because it's such a character-based universe and everyone is so well-established as an individual in terms of personality, voice, and appearance that it would feel like a copout to make them so moddable, like having a game where you can suddenly make Batman into a blond tan surfer dude that's not justified by it being a bonus Aquaman costume or something. And inserting original female mercs as their own characters would feel shoehorned considering it's such an old game that with the exception of Hale and some event bosses any new people are best left to the comics. If they go the latter route it should definitely be saved for a new game.

That said, I think female skins could still be implemented if there was an in-universe event where the cast got hit with a Rule 63 spell or something. Would circumvent the former issue since the characters are still ultimately the same people. It also has the potential to be extremely hilarious, give some talented modelers a boost-up, and they don't even have to record new lines, just pitch shift the current ones (which would be even funnier tbh). Long as they avoid any blatantly sexist jokes or general cheap "WHOA I GOT BOOOBIEES" humor it'll be fine for me and make me feel included, although Tumblr will always find an excuse to complain.
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>190244
>cast got hit with a Rule 63 spell or something
If they wanted to Deus Ex female mercs (femercs?) in, an alternate universe portal would work much better. After all, the game wouldn't force all female or all male (some servers might), and in-game there are somehow already "clones" of characters (the comics have never offered an explanation for this or even mentioned it, to my knowledge) so it would make more sense to present a female cast as co-existing with the original male cast.

Furthermore, a female cast that existed in their own right would allow Valve the opportunity to create new character setups without having to try to shoehorn in a 10th class. For example, the female Spy or Scout could be a ninja. The female Engineer could be a doughy New England professor. The female Heavy could be a Slavic or Canadian woodswoman ("Oh, mighty sorry about killing your entire team"). They could even have very different personalities; the only rigid requirements I can see are silhoutte ("class-at-a-distance") and weaponry.

I would be alright with a "whoops we're women now; well, time to kill the other women" setup, I guess, but avoiding that allows for much more potential. And, hey, maybe a larger cast would get Valve to release comics more than every two monthsonce a year!
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>female characters

It would be actually pretty interesting to see, it would add more "variety" to the game world. And no, I'm not saying this because SOSHIUL JUSHTICE or that feminist bullshit that has been going around for a time now (really, burn alive those people).

But the day a game will work with playable female characters will be when they add to them an ACTUAL personality. If it came down to TF, I would like to see mercenaries that happen to be women, and not "women that happen to be mercenaries"; I don't want a girl running around half-naked with a conveniet minigun that will make boobs bounce everywhere (as amusing that would be), I want them BEING true mercenaries, the kind of thing that would make you wonder at what point of their life they choose to be this way, and THAT being reflected on their personality and possibly on their appareance.
It's not that hard, really, but apparenlty the whole gaming community just look for "fan service" and what not.

Just my 2 cents.
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››190248
I think new mercs, from a story perspective, could just be "Hey guys, we got all this money so we hired another set of mercs! Was told we were going to pay you double but that kind of a raise isn't happening on my watch!"

>190247
If by "whole gaming community" you mean the dumbest part, which is also the most likely to jump at the chance to represent a poorly defined community to begin with?
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Anonymous
Frankly, I would not mind if Valve canonized the whole "Pyro actually is a woman" thing.
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>190258
It'd be pretty silly for them to. That whole mystery fuels interest for the game.
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>190261
Yeah, the ambiguity is a core part of the Pyro's character. Pyro is just as likely to be a monkey as a woman.
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>190258
Revealing the Pyro's identity would kill the joke. Why do so many people not understand that?
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i MISS WHEN tf2 gENERAL WOULD ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE GAME.
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Anonymous
>190258
Only if she's a really frumpy/old/plain jane lady and not the blond bombshell retarded fanartists keep drawing her as because there clearly aren't enough generic big tittied girls around in all of videogame-dom. Or the "trying so hard to be nonconventional and progressive it ironically becomes cliche as fuck" design Tumblr loves where she's an overweight ambiguously brown ambiguously trans piercing-studded dfab with an enormous, permanently blushed nose (see? not anime!) and pink-dyed Hitler Youth haircut.
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>190266

You've got some serious issues dude.
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>190268
I don't know, Tumblr IS pretty shit at everything on the average besides porn blogs. No reason to not be angry at their shit-tier shoehorning and terribad character designs. Or the whole "Social Justice" thing.

BUT HEY HOW ABOUT THAT TF2. SCREAMFORTRESS IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AFTER ALL...
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>190268
Not at all. I'm fine with characters who do look like that on their own, because people like that exist in real life and I feel pretty strongly about pushing for more diversity in character designs, especially with women. I'm as tired of bland Straight White Male protagonists as anyone else who isn't a frothing conservatard or kid obsessed with self-inserting.

But when EVERYBODY on Tumblr starts doing the exact same thing and creating such cookie cutter OCs in their attempt to be "inclusive" (if they're truly trying to go for inclusive, I don't think you're going to see that many people who have all of these traits at once IRL) or progressive, it just comes off as really damn ironic. I know it's silly to compare fanart to actual "regular" media portrayals considering there is a lack of each of these kinds of people there, but aiming to replace one set of generic female designs and ridiculously narrow women's beauty standards with another, just as ridiculously constrained one isn't the solution.
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>190268
He is absolutely right, Tumblr has some good artist but their ideas for character design are usually terrible.
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>190269
We should also be able to start voting on Saxxys soon. Submitting actually opened about 30 minutes ago and closes in a week. Voting starts immediately afterward. http://www.sourcefilmmaker.com/saxxyawards2014/guidelines/
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>190275
First of all I'm a she, not that it should really make a difference. And second, it's not that such designs are terrible in and of themselves. I'd embrace them in the case that it was being used for a setting or aesthetic where it would make sense (TF2 not being one of them). It becomes a problem when it's being done in mass aggregate and so many goddamn people are making their unmasked Pyro into the same copycat mold of "90's era Punk Grrl" or something similar, like it's some fucking hipster fad.
Even the people who make maskless Pyro into a Mary Sue of themselves or a hunky male just for fapbait purposes are less creatively sterile. At least they're doing it for themselves rather than shallowly pandering to whatever the fauxcial justice community deems "cool" at the moment.
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>Earbuds are now marketable

Jolly Holly
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>190288
Oh boy, I can't wait for the exorbitant and impossible prices.
Then again, I bet BMOC is more expensive.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315179922
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Anyone still remember this?

http://fc.cubizone.com/#tab1

I wanted to pay a visit to our cousin after a long time.
Their version sure has devolved, but at least it doesn't look much like tf2 anymore.
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Anonymous
You know what the end-all worst thing about TF2 now is? It used to be that when the scoreboard popped up at the end, you could still tauntkill. Now you can't do that if you have multiple taunts installed.
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Valve needs to do something about people abusing both the chat and votekick system on their servers.
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Autonyworkx4vv0ZYuAo
Thought I could pinch a few pennies and buy a Mann Up ticket for slightly less through the market. Nope. Am I the only one who thinks it's super stupid that anyone lists a key or Mann Up ticket for even a penny more than they cost on the Valve store? It's like sitting outside a McDonald's and trying to sell a $1 cheeseburger for $2.

Only thing dumber are the people who buy those at the higher price.
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>190435
I don't know whether it's true but I've heard that it has something to do with conversion rates - above store price in US dollars, but below that in other currencies.
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http://steamcommunity.com/saxxyawards2014
Saxxy voting is go!
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I'm sad there doesn't appear to be a Til' Death Do Us Part 3. Videos of note thus far:
Seat - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316967671 - Fat Engie Chair Dance is best dance
Animation vs. Animator - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316469970 - Classic theme, TF2 style.
A Funny - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317080748 - Da fuq.
Defuse on The Fly - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=318271742 - Hilarious CS:GO video
Mann Co. Cup Classic! - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317590126 - It's almost Mario Kart.
Sky Fortress: The Remaster - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317454510 - Good story, animation, voice acting, and use of fem scout!
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Man, lots of good stuff early one. Hope I don't run into walls of shit later on...
Heavy Drum Kit - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316780322
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Ghosts of the Past - Episode 2 - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315466597
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DEFECT_ - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316842630 - Heavy contender for best Drama, I think.
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About a Scout - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316622350 - Great Scout voice acting
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Your Eternal Revenge - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315786445
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Meet the Amazing Medichttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=318249349 - Just the right amount of LOLRANDOM for me
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>Updated the auto-balance code to immediately respawn players that are automatically switched, or that voluntarily switch, during a balancing period

PRAISE GABEN
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>Update http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=14508
>Updated the removeid command to support Steam2 and Steam3 ID formats
Eh wut

>Saxxy
I wish more submitters would understand that five minutes is a maximum, not a requirement. Too many videos would have been much better if they didn't try to pad out to five minutes.

Dota 2 Lore - Meet the Heroes: Pudge the Butcher - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317940765
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Bombnislash - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315843500
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Team Experience - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=318177787 - Takes a few minutes to really get started, but the end is worth it (if sappy)
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>190480
>Too many videos would have been much better if they didn't try to pad out to five minutes.

This problem mainly comes up in drama submissions. It's actually quite hard to tell a story with an appropriate amount of buildup and tension in just 5 minutes. That's why Til Death Do Us Part 3 isn't getting submitted this year. I think for Drama, they should extend the limit to 8 minutes or so.
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>190483
There are videos where you can tell a story in five minutes or less. Not a deep story, not a complex story, but a story. I've posted some I think are great and fit in the five minutes: Ghost of the Past Ep2 (Ep1 isn't a requirement to enjoy it), Pudge the Butcher, Your Eternal Revenge (okay, that last one's comedy). If they extended the limit to 8 minutes, even if only for drama, then people would pad their videos to 8 minutes. There may also be the mistaken impression that longer=better.

Til Death Do Us Parts 1 and 2 were great for five minutes. While the creator does want to do a longer Part 3, there's no submission because he also wants to do MoCap and a bunch of other whiz-bang stuff which sounds cool, but I worry means it will be stuck in production hell. He did make an entry this year (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=318215119), and while the animation is excellent the Wheatley VA isn't great and it just cuts off at the end. I do love the idea though, so I hope we get a full version with proper ending.

Speaking of production hell, I wonder when we're going to get the End of the Line update.
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Team Fortress 2 in 60 seconds - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317886609
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Behind the Mask - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315439575 - This one hits pretty close to home for me
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So apparently SPUF now believes that wanting to play on the same team as your friends is always teamstacking and bullying and people should just learn to enjoy playing against their friends instead (disagreeing with any of these means you're just evil pubstomper cancer, Hail Valve!).

>190150 is 100% right, Valve shouldn't listen to SPUF.
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>You have rated every video submitted to the Saxxy Awards!
...no, I'm pretty sure I haven't...
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>Team Fortress 2 in 60 seconds
Oh man, I remember way back when the Saxxy Awards started, when it revolved around the Replay function.

I used the same concept, except it was called "A day in Team Fortress 2: in 1 minute"; since I was alone on this, I went on a server (goldrush) and recorded everything and started editing. It didn't also help that I didn't have that much experience on editing videos, so I had to work only with what I knew and what I learned on the run (which were a lot of interesting things).
I still have the rendered video somewhere on my PC.

OH but let me tell you what was bullshit: Using the Replay function itself. I'm not going anywhere near it even if you paid me to do so.

Anyway, my real interest was getting a Saxxy, interest I lost because the next year Valve would make the Saxxy Awards revolve around SFM; they also included a single category dedicated to the Replay function, but everything it spawned was nothing compared to those from the SFM.
That, and also because of the introduction of the Golden Pan, which is without doubt infinitely better.
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