(P.S. Getting shot out of an airlock on the moon's surface and ending up in deep space is so fucking stupid, that's like getting thrown from your car in an accident and crossing an ocean before you land. But whatever.)
Ah, so now Sardonyx already did have a late nght show, and one that's also a game show. And here I thought she'd have to set something up at the stage on the beach. Would probably be good to give her a live audience, though.
Also, wait, they just striaght-up have their own working spaceship now. One that can hold a bunch of people in it, even.
>>243858 >Also, wait, they just striaght-up have their own working spaceship now. One that can hold a bunch of people in it, even. I hope we get a followup to Space Race where Pearl takes Steven to where she wanted to go without it taking five decades.
So wait, what the fuck exactly happened with Lauren Zuke to drive her off Twitter? I'm hearing it had to do variously with people flipping out over people pairing Pearl with Greg or Peridot ship wars, and I don't trust Tumblr to tell me anything straight.
>>243870 She posted a piece of one ship. Those "Opposed" to that ship freaked the fuck out and acted as you'd think they would given Tumblr mentality to things that are different that they don't like "I don't like it therefore its wrong".
Hm, what I remember seeing right before Zuke deleted her twitter was her freaking out about how people were downloading the "leaked" episodes and watching/discussing/spoiling them early, not her reacting to shipping wars.
However I also saw /sug/ claim that it was all the fault of Jasper fans when it happened, too.
Zuke isn't commenting on why they deleted their twitter, but rumor sites have been claiming it was due to "fan harassment," but I don't know what evidence they're using to justify those claims.
>>243870 She posted a couple of cute pro-Lapidot sketches and jokes, both Amedot shippers (who are mad because they don't want Lapidot to happen) and rabid Lapidot shippers (who are mad it's not canon already) got mad and called her "queerbaiting" for daring to dangle ship teases in front of them like that. Because it's not like the show doesn't already have Pearl, Ruby, and Sapphire as examples of hardcore canon lesbians or anything.
>>243874 Jasper/Jaspis fans have no reason to get involved. They're already hated by the rest of fandom already for daring to like problematic things so them speaking up in any fashion no matter what they say would just paint an even bigger target on their backs.
>>243893 >>243895 But seriously, they're probably gonna be found by Homeworld and tell them about Steven being Rose Quartz, otherwise where is this story going next? It could be years until send anyone after them otherwise--they hadn't even considered something had happened to Peridot and Jasper after they'd been gone for months.
I'm kind of suprirsed we didn't see evidence of the CG having picked them up themselves . I's not like it'd be especially hard for them, Steven woulnd't want them trapped out there, and the other gems would probably feel better to avoid leaving tem an unkonw factor.
Also, that knife is the most adorable gem weapon, both for being a kife-in-the-eye joke and for being the most diminutive one we've seen yet. I'm not sure how it's particularly useful outside of getting the drop on soemone, but maybe that Ruby prefers sealth attacks to begin with.
>>243904 I actually found the ruby pulling out a shiv for their weapon rather disturbing, its not a battlefield weapon or a piece of armor but instead something used for ambushing and murdering someone.
>>243905 The likelyhood of Ruby1F4 being a MGS inspired special operations soldier keeps going even further up.
>>243906 For gems, it's effectively the same concept. Just means it's also specifically for taking out gem targets. And I think the real reason they didn't go looking for the rubies was that they were just so concerned with getting Steven homen quickly after he apparnelty almost froze in space.
>>243948 Have two boats, have them raise up a rope high enough to not get sucked down in the gravity thing, have boats go to opposite sides of the waterfall pit, climb across rope.Then for some reason lower yourself down to the bottom along another rope since he approached it from the bottom instead of the top, unless that was just Steven imagining how he arrived there wrong.
>>244031 >Guess which episode you'll be seeing in everyone else's top 10 lists from now on. Who even cares about those? Besides general irrelevance, they're going to be dated pretty quickly in an ongoing show that's still any good.
The Rubies seem like an odd choice for the last and biggest regret to show up given that they seem the least hurt of all of them, though I guess that just goes to show how feelings of guilt aren't always rational.
>>244042 For someone who hasn't watched much, Steven freaking out at a bunch of chatacters being upset at things that only get explained in other episodes could seem pretty odd out of context., not that there was time to do much else.
Also, Aivi & Surasshu uploaded the sad songs form Mr. Greg but not the waiter song or the burger jingle?
It wasn’t regret about all the Rubies—just about the Ruby he pushed out into space (“Eyeball”, as seen in the OP pic) when he had no other choice. His feelings of guilt were centered around how he couldn't save Bismuth, Eyeball, and Jasper in much the same way that he saved Lapis and helped redeem Peridot. He doesn’t want to hurt others, even when they leave him no choice but to do so.
>>244047 And of course all three of these failures stemmed from their personal relationships with his mother. Up until recently he's had no reason to think of her as anything besides a completely benevolent figure, but all these revelations that she was far more ambiguous coming so close to each other have awakened a fear that maybe she...and by extension himself...wasn't the fundamentally good person he thought she was.
>>244045 >Aivi & Surasshu uploaded the sad songs form Mr. Greg but not the waiter song or the burger jingle? They didn't upload "Mr. Greg" because they didn't write that, Ben Levin, Jeff Liu, and Joe Johnston did.
>>244088 Seems unlikely just because SU isn't often that understated about such things. Or are only space rocks allowed to be open about thier relationships? Iif it was the case, the operative word would be "were" rather than "are", given that they only meet briefly after years of separation.
Unrelated: The more of Mr. Smiley's stuff gets broken, the more excited I am at the idea of Peridot using space technology to make games and rides only for them to end up way too intense when she doesn't understand human safety requirements.
And that ws a cute moment with Onion there. Now he knows to be more careful!
>>244089 I really loved the whole "I guess everything worked out in the end" "Steven, that cost thousands of dollars" bit. at the end. As important as representation is, I also love little things like that that let you know "yeah, helping people out with personal issues is good but won't negate damaged property." Don't break shit, kids.
Also, Smiley and Frowny seemed like really good friends who had a falling out rather than lovers. I didn't get any romantic tension from them. I could be wrong though.
>>244129 >Might as well have been started while they were boarding this ep. Alright, lets see.
http://laurenzuke.tumblr.com/post/95968753889/live-fast-die-young-bad-pearls-do-it-well-ps-i >27 August 2014 Naw, that's too far back, even for an animated show. Zuke said "Log Date 7 15 2" was boarded back around January 2015, and that was over a season ago.
>>244157 I can imagine that thing being somewhat common in some future where there are more gems not perpetually toiling for Homeworld and in contact with humans. Live long enough and the idea of dying to create some new lifeform, instead of inevitably through murder, suicide, or accident, probably sounds pretty interesting.
Pearl, specifically, I doubt would do anything like that in the lifespan of any human currently living.
>>244153 The whole "no sex parts" thing seems unlikely. We know they are capable of using the bathroom because Amethyst has made jokes about going in the ocean--and having a pussy but no vagina seems overcomplicated. And they're shapeshifters, regardless.
For those who haven't been keeping their ear to the ground, the show comes back the 17th with a half-hour episode "Gem Harvest", then there's apparently going to be at least one more episode before Christmas break (judging by the German schedule).
I was kind of hoping for something that advanced the plot a bit more, but finding out about Greg's family was nice. Maybe not surprising considering "Bismuth" was kind of separate from the show's storyline when it aired.
>>244611 >Is the show going to be weekly again? It's off next week, but there's a new one the week after that. After that though, is probably a Christmas break--CN almost never premieres new episode in December past the first week unless they're holiday episodes.
>>244612 >Steven, ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws.
Someone accidentally posted all five episodes of the next bomb, which was meant start four weeks from today, on the website, in their entirety (and decent quality). So long as you have the channel on cable, you can watch them all for not--if not, wait a while for webrips.
>>244885 >is anyone really THAT incompetent again and again? Much of this is happening because clips are spread between dozen of sources (VOD, advertising, a Youtube account and website for every regional CN, the CN app) that have separate staff and have to work with a schedule that's constantly changing (in fact, multiple because every region has different air dates). Almost none of these leaks (to use the term as loosely as people are) happened the same way, though they did happen with other shows sometimes: #Making a commercial from a clip about five episodes in the future (that clip of Peridot trying to give Lapis a gift, another of Peridot playing with her alien doll). #A foreign version of CN showing clips about one and four episodes ahead of the current broadcast (CN UK posting the climaxes of "Super Watermelon Island" and "Barn Mates" on Youtube last February). #People datamining the website for clips that are uploaded but not meant to be visible for a few more days (the Yellow Diamond screenshot that came a few days before "Message Received"). #Foreign broadcast beating domestic because they decided to air them as soon as they got the rights without caring/paying attention to practices on a financially separate institution that may not speak the same language ("Coach Steven" in Canada, "Barn Mates" through "Steven Floats" in France; it's remarkable that it doesn't happen more). #Someone uploading episodes that come out early because the release date is wrong, either because the final TV schedule was reworked, the initial date was a placeholder someone forgot to correct in time, or just a typo (this stuff).
>>244886 >Cartoon Network, which is owned by Warner Bros. Same parent company (Time Warner), but different division (TBS).
>>244892 It's interesting how the moral high ground hasn't changed direction, but has gotten more even. It seemed like Rose thought of humans as people while Homeworld thought they were nothing. Turns out they both thought of humans as animals, Rose just thought a zoo wasn't a substitute for their natural environment.
Speaking of which, those quartz gems were definitely watching the humans sustain the population.
>>244898 Well also that the Zoo was Pink Diamond's idea to preserve Earthlings after the planet was converted, while the other diamonds either continue or tolerate it respectively due to it being poor departed Pink's project.
It all makes me even more curious to find out the exact circumstances that led to her being shattered
A CN rep said those episodes were released intentionally as part of the website/app's "See It First" promotion.
Even so, all of them being taken back down within twelve hours (and only one being put back up so far) suggests someone else at the network thought they shouldn't have been posted.
Also, while these new SU episodes were marked as "See It First", I will note there are other times where episodes go up there first without such a denotation and are taken down shortly thereafter--with Gumball alone it's happened with like five episodes already.
>>244903 Whatever is in earths makeup seemed to do something to the gems created there, all those bubbled Rose Quartz. Whatever Pink was working on earth altered something in the gems she created there
>>244912 Well that's slightly less of a Clusterfuck than Legend of Korra and its last two seasons. They reacted to a leak by in a spectacular method of failure. Course it may have been that blistering incompetence that they finally agreed "fine, have your lesbians."
But now Harvey Beaks has hit some of those same roadblocks.
I've seen utterly poor moves by all the major animation producers. And I don't know why they don't change.
http://troffie.tumblr.com/post/156782558363/here-are-some-drawings-from-the-zoo-ages-ago >Ages ago, Rebecca pitched The Zoo to Lamar and I as this absolute utopian, hippie society full of beautiful and healthy people with no concept of pain or sadness. So we went to town drawing as many different kinds of hot people as possible! 70s sci-fi, hippie communes, The Time Machine (1960), The Footlight Parade (1933), and the Centaurette sequence from Fantasia were all influences for this episode
>>245880 >the music in that ad sounds similar to Jasper’s theme. The second half is is part of Jasper's theme, but without the ratcheting sound. The first half is the music that played on the car ride during the Beach City evacuation, also from "The Return".
What is the crew's obsession with Lars? He's terrible, he's just a terrible human being with no one to blame but himself.
This is coming from someone with social-anxiety and depression who failed scholastically and was bullied heavily, that doesn't justify you in being such a douchebag asshole. Common decency and manners don't cost nothin.
>>246042 I'm okay with that because it finally feels like we're going somewhere with him, my problem with him in the previous episodes is that we never go anywhere besides "he sucks."
This is the big chance to redeem him, also I'm interested in how he relates to Steven here who is at a low point and is willing to sacrifice himself, but to save someone he'll fight....that said Lars is like, the one person who could fuck up Steven's desire to protect people with his selfish cowardice.
So Rose didn't know if her kid would be a boy or girl, so she made two different videos. But the right one ended up in a different place where it would be preserved and Lion could bring it to Steven more easily--that had to have happened after Steven was born. The only one besides Rose or Steven who could have put things in Lion... is Lion.
The episode makes a point that Rose didn't make complicate plans for Steven's life, yet Lion having all these things seems to just serve to make things more complicated and uncertain. Why not just give Greg the video and leave the sword in the armory where Pearl thought it would still be?
I don't think Lion is on some mission from Rose. I think he's acting on his own (albeit still in Steven's interests) and stole all that shit, possibly without even knowing Rose personally.
So the TV airing had something unexpected: the exact second the episode ended, there was a trailer for the next four episodes, which are airing in a one-hour block called Steven Universe: Wanted. That's why "Stuck Together" went up this morning--as a preview.
>>246273 >>246274 I wonder if the condition ends up being reversible via application of ordinary human medical science, applied as though Lars was simply in a period of extended stasis. Not that that's necessarily preferable to being magic and unaging, but whatever. I do look forward to seeing what Sadie thinks, maybe she'll even insist on Steven taking her to stay with him on Homeworld?
And that's not even getting into what any of the other Townies might try to get up to. Connie: I've read Dune, Steven! You need to combine with the worm if we want to fix the galaxy! Steven: What are you talking abou- Connie: Spice must flow, Steven! Spice must flow!
And for those of you who do not want to sit through the full video, here is the tracklist:
01. “We Are The Crystal Gems” 02. “Let Me Drive My Van Into Your Heart” 03. “Cookie Cat” 04. “Giant Woman” 05. “Strong In The Real Way” 06. “Steven And The Stevens” 07. “Big Fat Zucchini” 08. “Steven And The Crystal Gems” 09. “Dear Old Dad” 10. “Be Wherever You Are” 11. “On The Run” 12. “Comet” 13. “Destiny” 14. “Lapis Lazuli” 15. “Whaling Stone” 16. “Stronger Than You” 17. “Full Disclosure” 18. “We Are The Crystal Gems (Full Theme Song)” 19. “The Jam Song” 20. “Do It For Her” 21. “What Can I Do (For You)” 22. “Tower Of Mistakes” 23. “Haven’t You Noticed (I’m A Star)” 24. “Something Entirely New” 25. “Peace And Love On The Planet Earth” 26. “Don’t Cost Nothing” 27. “Empire City” 28. “Mr. Greg” 29. “It’s Over Isn’t It” 30. “Both Of You” 31. “Don’t Cost Nothing (Reprise)” 32. “I Think I Need A Little (Change)” 33. “Here Comes A Thought” 34. “Still Not Giving Up” 35. “I Could Never Be (Ready)” 36. “What’s The Use Of Feeling Blue” 37. “Love Like You (End Credits)”
It's amazing how much changed from the earliest draft of the pilot pitch to the series proper. Steven looked like a high school linebacker and was more like the Crystal Gems' intern who they'd just recently met. Sugar made them the family Steven grew up in to better fit the relationships she had in mind, but I think the more Sorcerer's Apprentice-esque scenario had legs.
The blame for hiatuses—and the lack of reruns—can and should fall upon the people in charge at Cartoon Network. SU would not be on hiatus for so long if CN stopped doing “bombs” and instead aired new episodes on a weekly basis.
>>247172 >SU would not be on hiatus for so long if CN stopped doing “bombs” and instead aired new episodes on a weekly basis. They keep doing it because, apparently, the ratings have been better that way. Which makes sense, at least when it's practically a TV movie like Wanted--an hour of peak ratings counts as much as four quarter-hours that gets the same ratings, and they only have to promote one date.
Granted, there's more complicated things to consider (like premiers getting "spillover" to reruns directly before and after), and some of this is a bit more experimental than a sure thing, but the long-term rate episodes have come out at (~10 days/episode) hasn't really changed.
Another reason they've pushed for bombs is that they are peddling the steaming service really hard. Need your fix? It's online, like it or not. It's hypothesized that's one of the reasons there are only about four shows shown daily, to flood the market with cheap shows and create a scarcity for novelty.
Lords only know why they'd play Teen Titans GO 90 times a week otherwise.
>the strange category of thinking anything not directly related to the Diamonds and the conflict is filler
Except that is kind of true. The show tries to straddle the line between episodic and serial without becoming one or the other, which puts it in a weird situation where the overarching conflict of the show—Homeworld versus The Crystal Gems for the fate of Earth—often takes a backseat to slice-of-life content and expanded worldbuilding. Yes, Steven Universe lacks entire filler arcs like a shōnen anime would have (hi, Bleach), but it does have filler—“Rocknaldo”, for example, could be cut out of the show without creating any unsolvable snags in continuity or characterization.
Given that White Diamond is so powerful compared to even other diamonds, and the only other gem known to be of the same color is Pearl, whose abilities include making chatbot-like hologram duplicates of herself, could it be that the reason White Diamond has been acting strange since at least the war against Earth is because what the other gems are talking to is really just an incredibly souped-up answering machine?
Huh, interesting. I didn't mind either way wether Peridot got into a romance, though I think it could have maybe been woven into Peridot trying to train Steven in gem stuff or something instead of mostly just townie stuff outside the major events.