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I heard Doom showed his face in Secret Wars. Anyone got the pic?

HOLY SHIT STEVE STAYED OLD? RAD

>>235882

Holy shit, it's Jason Voorhees.

>>235864
Cool Phil is around. Now just bring back his pal Deadpool.

So what is up with Steve?

>>235908
He got his super juice sucked out of him. Though he looks better than he has before so maybe he's regenerating.

>>235864
She-Thor is still around can't wait to see every male villain/hero be turned into a bumbling oaf while every female villain gives her a pass because I respect your vag.

http://comicbook.com/2015/06/06/special-edition-new-york-marvels-next-big-thing-there-is-no-rebo/

so not a reboot just a more focused set of stories?

>>235961
They just need to get rid of Jason Aaron.

>>235973
"Tony needs more villains for Tony"

Fuuuuuck. Bendis is THE WORST.

All of Iron Man's villains are Tony Stark villains, because they almost universally were people out to steal Tony Stark's technology and/or market share. Iron Man spent THIRTY YEARS as "Tony Stark's bodyguard" because EVERYTHING HE EVER FOUGHT WITHOUT THE AVENGERS WAS TRYING TO GET AT TONY STARK'S STUFF.

>>235981
Bendis is only any good when he's writing his own stuff, like Miles and Jessica Jones.

So I started to look into Sam Alexander Nova on a whim- Does it start feeling less like crappy fan fiction by someone incapable of basic research once Gerry Duggan takes over?

Because god damn it, Jeph Loeb. Jesse Alexander is Poochie as fuck.

>>236101
Yes, thankfully.

>>236101

I don't know a lot about Nova, but wasn't this character one of a long line of characters that are somehow tied to Jeph Loeb's son? I remember somebody here mentioning that, once.

>>236107
Yeah, he's pretty blatantly named for Sam Loeb.

>>236115
No Aflac joke?

>>236121
Howard, don't you know? Bread makes you fat.

>>236125

Bread does not make you fat.

>>236133
That joke was amazingly well done in the movie.

>>236134
Everything about the movie was amazingly well done.

>>236135
This. Movie keeps being fun to watch, too.

>>235864
Did Tarzan join the Avengers too? Who's the guy on the right?

>>235984
Vampire Cows. Now I have seen everything. :D

>>236475
Maybe its what-his-face from Savage Land, you know, with the sabertooth tiger.

>>236475
Red Wolf. You may not recognize him because he isn't wearing his namesake Red Wolf hat, for some damn reason.

>>236486
Ka-Zar is blond.

>>235864
>four Spider-people
I'm not sure if Drew technically counts but I'm so glad they changed her costume. Looked kind of iffy in the first pics, but seeing it under a decent artist it fits in a lot better with the other Spiderpeeps's outfits, and her old one was horrendously ugly and unsexy.

Anyway which Ant-Man is this? Scott or Eric?

>>236492
Its Scott thankfully, I tire of O'Grady and his "I'm an asshole." personality. Be fun if Peter ends up being the leader of Team Spider at both Coulson and Maria insistence.

>>236491
So was Cap.
Just saying.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-announces-doctor-strange-series-by-aaron-bachalo

After Ghost Rider and Thor, Aaron gets another shot at Marvel's supernatural side with Doctor Strange.

>>236515
I'm glad he's off Thor now, but poor Dr. Strange doesn't deserve to get shat up by him.

>>236537
Esad Ribic's artwork is what really made God of Thunder worth reading, I think. Strange should have been handed to Ewing or Gillen.

>>237026

yay~

(get a better artist attached to this series please)

>>237038
I honestly have no problem with and can't really understand why some get so upset by it.

>>237039
People wanted a cute looking Squirrel Girl and not a pig-nosed, fat-faced Squirrel girl. The artist tends to give her and most characters cheek bones for some reason.

>>237039

We've had this argument before and I don't feel like having it again. The tl;dr of it: we who don't like the art style think the artist makes people (not just Doreen) look ugly via the way they draw faces.

And that's all I have to say about that in this thread.

>>237078

songbird

my precious songbird

what have they done to your face

>>237078
Holy shit the white-haired girl's face is literally lopsided.

>>237079
>>237080
She also looks wall-eyed.

>>237079
>>237080
>>237082

And now you know how I felt when I first saw Squirrel Girl drawn this way.

>>237078
Everyone looks like they've been hit in the face with a shovel.

EVERYONE.

WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS?!?

If Squirrel Girl as an Avenger under Hawkeye doesn't see them talking about the Great Lakes Avengers frequently, I will be disappointed.

>>237086
Because the writing is pretty good, and not every panel looks that way, even if way too many of them do. I've seen way shittier artists get lots of love on Tumblr so it might be popular with audiences who are less fussy about that stuff.

>>237088

It's also a female-led comic that isn't all about angst, sex, or the more "serious" themes that comics love to explore these days. It's a goofy comic that doesn't take itself seriously, and those always manage to find an audience if they're well-written.

>>237086
A lot of people think comic book art is pretty ugly most of the time anyway. It's not a popular opinion in comic book circles, so people may not want to bring it up, but a lot of comic book art is just boring and actively gets in the way of the storytelling. What the Squirrel Girl art lacks in prettiness it makes up for in visual storytelling, which is what the book's about anyway.

>>237771
Even Miles Teller? Man, you'd think someone would have at least cared about him, given the number of Divergent movies there are.

Fant4stic is hovering around 10% on Rotten Tomatoes, and it could stay in the single digit numbers if negative reviews keep pouring in.

>>237773
FFS and I thought Fox had crawled out of that hole.

>>237771
No surprise, I don't think they mention names once in all the damn trailers. And that "Clever" Four designs aren't very notable in such a darkly shot movie.

>>237776
Nah they fucked up, Trank showed he was nowhere near ready for Prime Time and lost himself the dream job of a Star Wars film in the process.

Overall for the Actors aside from Jordan and his Rosa Parks garbage a few months back I just really feel sad for them that this turned out to be just not fun for anyone on either side.

>>237771
Not really. The actors don't deserve to be shat on for what's basically the fault of the higher ups. OK, maybe Jordan deserves a tiny amount for going overboard with his rant, but he's a damn fine actor and in general the critics seem to think the four themselves were actually alright considering the awful material they were given.

>>237786

Gee, I wonder why he lost the Star Wars gig.

>>237786
What an asshole.

>>237798
I dont get it...

>>237807
Pegg is telling everyone to watch Mission Impossible 5.

It's a good burn, but Pegg should refrain any further attacks, considering the controversy with Star Trek Beyond being less "Star Trek" (which he's writing).

>>237879
Ohh man that sounds adorable. Anything with Devil Dinosaur gets an A in my book.

FYI, checked out the Civil War tie-in to Secret Wars this morning thanks to a storytime on /co/ Prime.

If you haven't yet done so, read it yourself. It’s actually good.

>>237879
I don't know how comfortable I am with the idea of replacing a protohuman with a black girl in this duo.

>>237884
The original Moon Boy is apparently still in the story for a bit, and it sounds like they're timeshifted to the present.

>>237885
They've been in the present since the 80s. No real change there.

>>237958
Man, wtf is with some of the faces in that art. It's more technically accomplished than Squirrel Girl's but Carol's expressions are genuinely disturbing me.

>>238008
I don't think Secret War Parker Jr. is Mayday.

Squirrel Girl made it on the NYT's Best Sellers list.

http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2015-09-20/paperback-graphic-books/list.html

>>238354
Me neither but the lack of pants is a little annoying. At least based Kamala is still based.

>>238354
That She Hulk costume doesn't really work well in that picture.

The S logo just looks like a weird hook.

>>238354
Who's Keebler elf-kun? I'm guessing Hawkeye because the things around his ears might be cochlear implants.

>>238371
She already has the slash fics written.

>>235864
Based on that picture, they replaced all their heroes with new versions, then? Great. They didn't learn a thing from DC's errors.
Also, let me add here, the name Spider-Gwen and her costume are the Worst Thing Ever. It's stupid on soooo many levels. Does she even call herself that in combat, letting her name slip to the villains? Also, does this mean she got un-killed like so many characters? Only Uncle Ben left in the afterworld, now...

>>238398
>so many shit and ignorant opinions in one post
Fuck off, you underageb&.

>>238398
Educate yourself before shit-posting!

Spider-Gwen is the name of the book, but in her particular universe, she's Spider-Woman. And she's from an alternate universe where Gwen got bit by the spider instead of Peter.

>>238410

And in her alternate universe, she couldn’t save Peter.

>>238411
Also he was the Lizard.

The freaky monster sex they could have had.

What a shame...

>>238398
The only actual "replacements" are Female Thor, Spider-Gwen, and Captain Falcon (who's been around as a person since the 70s or so). The rest of them are the originals or have been around for at least a few years.

I don't want the X-Men to end up back with Marvel though. They're the one thing Fox has been doing right, and keeping them in a separate universe gives them more breathing room plus the mutant metaphor becomes a lot less paradoxical.

>>238680
It's also hard to image in film like Deadpool being made under Marvel Studios.

Yeah, I’d rather Fox keep the X-Men properties. The MCU doesn’t need Wolverine.

>>238680
I'm a little worried for the franchise once Singer departs. Of all the X-movies directed by other people only one of them was good. The rest were either mediocre (Wolverine) or horrible (3, Origins). Deadpool will probably be great, but it has the benefit of being a pet project by someone who really cares.

say it depends on how Apocalypse pans out. They fixed Apocalypse after people mocked it. Shame they went back to black battle armor after having so much better suits in the last two.

>>238698
If there's been any changes to him since I haven't seen it yet and it's probably been stricken off the interwebs.

>>238738
That's a lot of Spidermen.

>>238738
Man some of that looks almost cool enough to get me back... but I know Marvel hasn't changed in any way to make me want to come back outside of occasionally buying something relatively selfcontained.

Like, duelling "Deadpool" all-star books bringing back the Kelly/McGuiness and Niceiza/Brown teams? That's awesome. But then I remember the whole fucking Messiah Complex era Cable series that replaced Cable/Deadpool and realize oh shit, yeah, Marvel is awful.

>>238738
OK, so what's the deal behind Spider-Woman being pregnant?
Scarlet Witch, Choulk, Hawkeye, and Moon Girl look interesting.

>>238745
>OK, so what's the deal behind Spider-Woman being pregnant?

If it's a sales success, the next rebranding is All-New, All-Pregnant.

Also, they're doing an 8 month time skip forward from the end of Secret Wars.

>>238746
Who's the lucky father/penis-having mother?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/books/ta-nehisi-coates-to-write-black-panther-comic-for-marvel.html?_r=3
Odd choice of writer, considering his lack of experience working in the medium.

>>238818
Ugh, I hope he doesn't carry over his pretentious writing style to Black Panther. Claremont X-Men had enough of that shit.

>>238818
>>238828
I'm more concerned about him confusing American racial politics with African ones. There's obviously going to be a lot of crossover between the two because of colonialism but I don't want him to end up being Erudite Hudlin.

>>238831
His articles seem to run the gauntlet of calling politics out for their shit across all spectrum.

>>238831

To be Erudite Hudlin, Coates would have to be well-spoken, but a complete moron. Fortunately, Coates is a well-spoken and highly intelligent person.

Will he be a good comics writer? I dunno. He's a good non-fiction writer but while there's certainly some overlap that's not the same skillset. But I don't think that's a point you have to worry too much on.

And Coates is already poking a little fun at what people think his run’s going to be like on Twitter.

He has a predilection for verbosity and grand statements, which is fine in essays, but like >>238828 said it doesn't really make for natural sounding speech unless he can tone it down.

>>238839

Hmm, maybe if he had a writing partner to parse out his speeching.

I've never read Hudlin's run vs. Priest's run, but I've not really run into any internet people who actually liked it.

Like, I've literally never seen anybody say they liked Reginald Hudlin the best. I've seen people say that they liked other writers besides Priest, or even thought the Kirby/Lee era was best, but nobody places Hudlin anywhere near the top.

I think by this point, most of us have seen what Hudlin is capable of putting out at his prime (the Black Panther special where they had Stan Lee make a spear-chucker joke right after we saw Wakandans throw a bunch of spears, anyone?)

>>238836
Even if I don't necessarily agree with all of Coates' stuff he's definitely discerning enough that I can trust him not to pull any of Hudlin's misogyny or failures in basic storytelling.

http://animeflavor.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-tv-episode-1-road-to-knowhere
Any good?

>>239039
Eh. Makes me want Avengers: EMH back more than anything.

>>239039
Seems okay, the animation is G1 Transformers, detailed but skipping a ton of frames.

Yeah, its a mixed show.

On one hand its more of movie flavored cosmic marvel with all that made it great.
Like FUCKING Cosmo and 80's music.

But then the USM/AA/H:AOS bullshit start with its lame morals and arguments.
You can be a half-hero Gamora, shut the fuck up!

Well atlest they kill things without going all emo about it like some other heroes.
Because nothing says dead like frozen solid followed by space blow out.
Ouch!
See also Groot's backstory.

Hope they go to Halfworld.

>>239178
Kon-Squirrel?

>>239290

The bottom pic is Cat Thor. Which was an actual thing that happened in the first run of Unbeatable Squirrel Girl.

>>239178
Who drew that? What artist?

>>239296
Erica Henderson, the normal Squirrel Girl artist. Her initials are on the bottom corner. The top one is not bad coming from her. The lack of color probably helps.

>>239291
>The bottom pic is Cat Thor. Which was an actual thing that happened in the first run of Unbeatable Squirrel Girl.

...

You know, people defend shit like this on the basis of Throg, Frog of Thunder... but Throg was a one off thing and was literally Thor getting turned into a frog, not whoever or whatever getting to be Thor because magic hammer.

>>239298
In the case of things that happen in Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, people don't defend it on the basis of Throg, they defend it on the basis of "It's fun, shut up."

>>239397

See? SEE? Drawn by a competent artist, Doreen doesn't have to look like she got her face beaten with a shovel!

>>239398
Its funny you say that, because thats exactly what it looks like happened.

So…according to the latest Unbeatable Squirrel Girl comics, Doreen is no longer a mutant.

http://kotaku.com/marvel-just-made-a-weird-change-to-squirrel-girl-1740137608

>>240147
Yep, they made it a pretty tongue-in-cheek line out of it. Just wish the art was better because the writing is superb.

>>240147
I bet is probably to put her on any of the next phase movies (at least a as a cameo) since Fox has the movie rights of the all the mutant related teams (even if she isn't part of any X team). Reason of why they're pushing hard the Inhumans.

>>240254
Which is good because the Inhumans are way cooler then the mutant.

"What, human hates and fear us? Well fuck'em, we're gonna go live on the MOON!"

Tentative release dates for the first ANAD Marvel TPBs according to Amazon:

Silver Surfer Vol. 1 – July 26, 2016
Wolverine: Old Man Logan Vol. 1 – July 26, 2016
A-Force Vol. 1: Hypertime – July 19, 2016
Scarlet Witch Vol. 1 – July 19, 2016
Weirdworld Vol. 1 – July 19, 2016
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur – July 5, 2016
Patsy Walker, A.K.A. Hellcat! Vol. 1 – June 28, 2016
Star-Lord Vol. 1 – June 28, 2016
Star Brand & Nightmask Vol. 1 – June 28, 2016
Ultimates Vol. 1 – June 21, 2016
Red Wolf Vol. 1 – June 21, 2016
Spidey Vol. 1 – June 21, 2016
Black Knight Vol. 1 – June 21, 2016
Hercules Vol. 1 – June 21, 2016
Illuminati Vol. 1 – June 21, 2016
Venom: Space Knight Vol. 1: Agent of the Cosmos – June 21, 2016
Ms. Marvel Vol. 5: Super Famous – June 14, 2016
Vision Vol. 1 – June 14, 2016
Spider-Woman Vol. 1 – June 14, 2016
Guardians of Infinity Vol. 1 – June 14, 2016
Hawkeye Vol. 6 – June 14, 2016
Nova Vol. 1: Burn Out – June 14, 2016
Uncanny X-Men Vol. 1 – June 14, 2016
The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 – June 7, 2016
Angela: Queen of Hel – June 7, 2016
Deadpool: Bad Blood HC – June 7, 2016
Howling Commandos of S.H.I.E.L.D. Vol. 1 – June 7, 2016
Squadron Supreme Vol. 1 – May 31, 2016
All-New Inhumans Vol. 1: Skyspear – May 31, 2016
Drax Vol. 1 – May 31, 2016
Spider-Gwen Vol. 1 – May 24, 2016
Daredevil Vol. 1: Chinatown – May 24, 2016
Web Warriors of the Spider-Verse Vol. 1 – May 24, 2016
Howard the Duck Vol. 1 – May 24, 2016
Silk Vol. 1: Sinister – May 17, 2016
All-New X-Men Vol. 1 - May 17, 2016
Doctor Strange Vol. 1: The Way of the Weird HC – May 10, 2016
All-New Wolverine Vol. 1 – May 10, 2016
Extraordinary X-Men Vol. 1: X-Haven – May 10, 2016
The Astonishing Ant-Man Vol. 1 – May 10, 2016
Carnage Vol. 1: The One That Got Away – May 10, 2016
Spider-Man 2099 Vol. 1 – May 10, 2016
All New, All Different Avengers Vol. 1 – May 3, 2016
Captain America: Sam Wilson Vol. 1 – May 3, 2016
New Avengers Vol. 1 – May 3, 2016
Deadpool Vol. 1 – May 3, 2016
Contest of Champions Vol. 1 – May 3, 2016
Karnak Vol. 1: The Flaw in All Things – April 26, 2016
Uncanny Avengers Vol. 1 – April 26, 2016
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1: Emperor Quill – April 26, 2016
Invincible Iron Man Vol. 1 – April 19, 2016
Amazing Spider-Man: Worldwide Vol. 1 – April 19, 2016
Deadpool & Cable: Split Second – April 19, 2016

>>240390
I don't hate the Inhumans and in a free world I'd be glad that they finally have the chance to step out of the X-Men's shadows after being obscure for so long, but I heavily disagree about them being cooler than mutants.

>>240790
Well, Inhumans are, traditionally, slave owning isolationists who barely interact with anyone, so i can see why disagreeing earthen being "cool" could cone from.

>>240826
Is that image you linked to by Kris Anka? He's not a bad artist by any means, but it's very stale and lifeless. Gurihiru's work shows a lot more vivacity which probably does help a lot.

>>238354
>>240826
>>240827
Wasn't Christopher Hasting (of Dr. McNinja fame) writing all of Gwenpool comics?

>>240984
I like her, she's got some of that Ambush Bug wall breaking knowledge and uses it for more than just quips like Deadpool. Also I like how she ended up with the name and suit.

>>240984
My only problem with her is the costume, I hate the uncovered legs.

>>240986
That's a problem with comics in general.

>>240991
Least Marvel costume don't make your eyes fucking bleed for 4 years running.

>>240390
>inhumans way cooler than mutants
Debatable.

>>240994
No, it's really not, The X-men are fucking incredibly lame by any comparison.

So I recently got a subscription to Marvel Unmilinted and I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations for me. I've always been more of a DC guy so I haven't read much Marvel stuff.

So far I've read:
Cable & Deadpool
G.L.A.
Spider-Man Noir
Spider-Man Noir Eyes Without a Face
Moon-Knight (not sure what volume, but it was Bendis's run)
I've also read the first few issues of the current Ms. Marvel

So far I've enjoyed all of it. I'm open to just about any character or continuity so whatever you guys think is good feel free to recommend. My only preference is that the story (or story arc) is completed and that it isn't some big crossover event (I'd like to get to know the characters a bit more individually first).

I know there's tons of rec lists and stuff out there, I'm just wondering if anyone here has any specific suggestions. Whatever you think is good or 'mandatory reading.'

Christopher Priest's runs on Black Panther and Deadpool, the Winter Soldier and Brubaker's subsequent run on Captain America, Planet Hulk, off the top of my head.

>>240996
And inhumans are, somehow, even worse

>>241007
As a continuation of my statement that makes no since, I said by any comparison as in to the Inhumans.

So are they angry or...?
Because that's not even a parody of them.

>>241859
Its just. Weird.
"hurr durr tumblr likes racial segregation" is a common thing all over the information super highway but this just came out of nowhere.

Frickin comic writers with a chip on their shoulder, I guess.

>>241859
Now show how fucking pumped little brown kids would be to find out Spider-Man is brown like them and realize some goddamn perspective.

A kid like Miles would be treated as black no matter how much he talks about his Latino heritage; if anything, he’d be challenged on that for not looking “Hispanic enough”. He’d know enough about how cops treat black people to tense up whenever he sees a man in uniform. And he'd likely have enough life experience to know that, even if he doesn’t want to be “Black Spider-Man”, he will be anyway. He could pretend as if his difference—his race—doesn’t exist, but he’d know it would regardless.

The problem with those two pages lies in how the writers forgot to take all that into account so they could shove a ham-fisted “Why does race have to matter?” message into the story. (The fact that it looks like those pages are also taking a potshot at Marvel fans who asked for better POC representation doesn’t help.)

I for one am glad to see some attention being called out to the super creepy objectification of individuals based on their skin color.

>>241867
And for the sake of argument, are you white, or non-white?

Because I notice this page was written by Brian Michael Bendis, and most of the people who have this opinion seem to be white people who think the best way to deal with racism is to pretend it's over.

Different anon but I'm non-white and I think a lot of people on Tumblr do have a serious problem with overvaluing skin color to the detriment of their ability to see anything else, or holding it up as a cheap tactic to shut down debate. Don't agree with Bendis's take on it though, while I understand and slightly sympathize with him I disapprove of the way he's clearly strawmanning the opposing viewpoint rather than addressing it in a mature and reasonable fashion.

>>241866
On the other hand it's possible it's his way of lashing out against the one-drop rule when it comes to mixed people with partial African ancestry, as more young people seem to be doing these days. Or matters regarding the way the "of color" label, for all that's well meant by it, tends to be reductive and reaffirm the whole white/nonwhite dichotomy that colonialism forced onto us in the first place, especially when used outside of a US-specific context, as well as white-passing people of color or particularly tan members of "white" groups.

I doubt Bendis actually understands or intends all or maybe even any of that, but there are legitimate points of contention buried in there that other people of color, myself included have found really frustrating about the way (mostly American) people on Tumblr discuss matters of race.

Sorry for the triple posting but one thing I absolutely disagree with about these pages is Bendis's seeming anti-representation slant. Representation IS important, even if the way its advocates go about promoting it isn't necessarily the best, and while it would be nice if Miles was seen as something more than his race, we as a society simply aren't ready for that yet. And taking potshots at the need for representation in and of itself makes you sound like you're a coward afraid of any kind of social change, at the most charitable.

>>241868

I'm non-white, and honestly I find it insulting that you need to ask me this question, as though an opinion from a black guy is more important than an opinion from a white guy. Out of curiosity, are you white, or non-white? Because I've found that the folks with the most over-developed "sensitivity" to race issues are whites.

>>241870

If we're lucky...wait, this is Bendis, so prolly not, but in the right hands, I think this whole thing is pretty legit.

If anything, with zero context, I can actually kinda agree with it. I can see the possibility of somebody like Miles having the personal opinion of not wanting to be celebrated as black Spider Man, but just Spider Man. That ignores some of the real world context involved, having a new character take up an old mantle isn't new, but Miles was handled pretty well (I think,) way better than the time they tried to make 616 Fury black by creating a super complicated story involving an illegitimate son and just ugh...

(I'm Mexican, for the record.)

There's good and bad involved with wanting to focus on Spider Man's ethnicity, and in the right hands this could be a really cool and complicated issue for the characters to talk about. Other heroes or civilians could be on board with wanting to talk about it more and Miles and other characters disliking that.

That's if this gets handles with subtlety, though. Fem-Thor doesn't give me that confidence.

>>241873

I should also throw this out there, that while I don't "tense up whenever I sees a man in uniform" I certainly did some cringing at Mr. Stone's comments.

>>241873
>as though an opinion from a black guy is more important than an opinion from a white guy
Or more like people who gain the most benefit from the status quo have the most to gain from defending that status quo.

>>241876
In other words, a study funded by the tobacco industry that says tobacco doesn't hurt anyone doesn't mean as much as a study funded by someone who's been injured by tobacco use that says tobacco doesn't hurt anyone. This isn't some "offensive example of reverse racism," it's rhetorical common sense: a person with a personal stake in the argument who argues against the side that benefits them most is more relevant than a person arguing in favor of the position that they stand the most to benefit from personally. Not having to change their behavior most benefits people who already get as many benefits from the current situation as they will get after the situation changes.

Arguing that celebrating increased diversity in leading roles is racist or dehumanizing is, ultimately, an argument that increased diversity is not a thing that should be celebrated. Which is the same thing as arguing that there should be no incentive (in terms of positive reaction / increased sales) for doing it. Which is the same thing as arguing that, from a business perspective, there's no reason to do it, because change takes a greater investment of effort than doing something new.

And when someone who suffers from not doing something new (i.e. someone who gets fewer opportunities to be cast as the leads in major movies, or whose children have fewer examples of people with similar backgrounds to themselves as heroes and role models) argues that doing that new thing is valueless, it means more than when someone who gains nothing from doing something new (i.e. people who already have unlimited options in terms of role models and acting jobs).

So I'm sorry if it offends you that white people are being so hard done by, that people might think your opinion that benefits white people more than it benefits everyone else matters more coming from a non-white person than it does from a white person. But the fact that it offends you doesn't make it untrue or unfair. It's the same reason opinions on the best cures for period pain matter more when they come from people who have menstruated.

>>241877

...Dude...calm down...Are you serious right now?

I get where you're coming from, I do...fact is, I kinda used to be you...but you are not proving a thing by acting this way. Who even brought up celebrities and movies? Who argued anything about the status quo versus doing something new and business practices? We're talking comics. Not even that, we're talking this specific comic that's bringing up emphasis on a character's race vs. the character being non-white being incidental.

Ganke even agrees with the girl We haven't seen how this will pan out. Maybe Miles will change his mind, maybe he'll be right, maybe it'll be closer to real life where the real answer is frankly hard to land on and depends on constantly changing context?

Or maybe Bendis (the creator of Miles Morales and writer of this specific comic, by the by) is dropping his politics into his writing hardcore again.

We don't know, and frankly the majority of the conversation so far doesn't warrant everything that you've suddenly dropped on our lap.

>>241875

>I certainly did some cringing at Mr. Stone's comments.

Yaaaaaaaaaay, now I’m a creepy dumbass white guy who doesn’t get race! I finally feel complete. (Half-joking here. I probably did take my generalizations a bit too far, and for that, I apologize. I’m white and I’m woefully inexperienced in regards to…well, most things, really.)

>>241879
Don't worry, the guy who said that is white too, he's just saying he's not to make his opinion seem more relevant.

>>241880
Eh, black conservatives also exist and are surprisingly less uncommon than you'd think

>>241885
What a GILF

>>241885
She looks like an older version of White Tiger.

>>241885
Thigh Monster Grandma is casual hero gear. Okay who is she?

Also Miles you are now a dude in a Dōjinshi, what are you gonna do?

I mean I've seen this setup before.

>>241893
>Miles
>a dude in a Dōjinshi
Like Autumn Sakura's All-New Ultimates XXX parody?

>>241901

Pretty much. His dad is just missing the sweat bullets of someone intimidated by the much stronger women in the house.

>>241885
What a strange place to put a Mary Jane Watson reference.

>>241906
Just like the Dōjinshi

>>241999
Canadian Ice Ninjas yet no additional hockey theme. A missed opportunity for sure eh.

Geebus... Arranged marriage?
I'd wanted to pick up the book, but that is just something I'm uncomfortable with.

>>242025
Actually the opposite(?).
The two want to get married and the families are meeting so they can get to know each other.

>>242021
"Spares us the trouble of stoning her."

>>242026
And they have to sell it to his family that it'll make him less of a jobless bum getting him married.

Oh and the Dune Fremen are what turned her onto Islam.

>>242032
But he may be busy right now.
http://screenrant.com/marvel-comics-loki-for-president/

>>242021
Seems an awfully short time for them to be getting married seeing as they only seem to have been dating each other for a few months.

>>242032
Maybe I should try that some time.

>>242224
The Human Wall please. Otherwise, this is cringeworthy.

>>242273
Styx and Stone

//youtube.com/watch?v=1QuYW1LNdII