>>234804 I completely forgot that the Huss updates 12am Eastern Standard Time.
So many Caliborn shenanigans, so little time. I'm a bit glad that we didn't just jump strait into Homosuck like I was expecting. Also, did you notice that each of those videos had audio that had to be unmuted? The button is in the top left and is hard to see.
>>234832 >I wonder how long the wait will be now For what? Regular updates? Because it sounded like those start next week, according to his pre-masterpiece update. But that there would be more information in an update coming this week.
THE CLUE HERE IS THAT I STEAL HIS NAME. GOD. YOU THICK, STUPID FUCKS. WHY DO I BOTHER WITH SUB TEXTS, OR FINE LITERATUREY NUANCE. GOD. FUCK! GOD. I TAKE HIS NAME LATER. ENGLISH. THAT'S ME LATER. THAT'S MY NAME. YOU STUPID BRAINLESS FUCKS. HOLY SHIT, YOU ARE DUMB AS BOZOS COME. GOD!!!
I can't help but feel that was Hussie talking directly to his audience.
>>235053 Out of curiosity checked this out. Vriska is still the only character I could care in all this mess. Also, best girl. And I'm glad that past ghost self of hers is still in lesbians with Meena.
Wait, what did happen to bird Dave? I get that in this timeline he died when LOWAS blew up but what about John and Roxy's timeline? I don't remember him dying or anything. Did they just leave him behind?
>>235294 I can understand that. But back when she was some pirate ghost, she was beginning to get on my nerves. Hell, even when she was just venting to Meenah, she was whatever to me. With this, that feeling's starting to come back. At least the messing with Tavros is fine. Nothing new there. But just let Jake get his shit together.
>>235313 I've never been a fan of black shipping, but this... I'm oddly okay with this. I guess it's just a matter of liking the two characters and liking how they interact. Also helped by Karkat's explanation that there's more to it than just hating the other person's guts 24/7. That definitely made the idea more appealing.
>>235314 Yeah, blackshipping made me uncomfortable based on the characters we've seen engaged in black ships--Terezi/Gamzee was pretty clearly abusive, and Eridan/Vriska didn't seem like it could possibly be anything but uncomfortable. But Terezi/John? I could see that actually being a cute thing where they're just tsundere for one another and neither of them has to be horrible to the other one. Just pranking one another mercilessly and a little slap-slap kiss-kiss, I can get behind.
Though not if it would get in the way of John/Roxy.
I don't really like the direction Dave has gone in, having no filter and just embarrassing himself constantly. I don't mind if it's just this conversation but it kind of seems like it's gonna be a running thing now.
He probably picked it up from Karkat now that I think about it.
>>235370 I love this Dave. He'll most likely get his shit mostly together later on which is also cool, so until then I'm going to enjoy every bit of him falling down the metaphorical stairs that is his own mouth.
For a very long time, I considered Karkat to be my favorite character in the comic. But after Act 6 had gone on for a while, it started to feel very much like he just wasn't relevant anymore. He wasn't a leader, he wasn't a good fighter, and after Vriska got back he seemed perfectly content to just take a B-role for the rest of the plot. I am quite happy that this update confirms that no, he still has an important part to play.
>>236218 Which is exactly why it's likely. It raises the stakes so that we have fewer "easy revives." We're reaching the endgame, and having deaths matter in the final battle increases emotional torque.
>>236734 I thought it was super refreshing to see these characters be able to open up like this. The Striders have always been super interesting characters, from being funny to having depth to them that's a bit masked by them being so funny. Both of their vents I thought was some of the most interesting long-reads compared to the others we've been having as of late.
In any case, next up will be Roxy and Kanaya, both of whom I'm sure will have something sassy to say about something.
>>236751 Just because he was a rad or badass Guardian doesn't instantly make Bro a good parent. The proof is in the pudding. Dave's always had a problem with Bro, and Dave being Dave, put on a cool face and walked it off. Hiding his true emotions behind his thick shades. I personally always saw Bro as a jerk with a heart of gold that had some twisted views on parenting and could only communicate with Dave in threats or tricks.
>>236752 All the kids were in weird dumbass living conditions that would be considered fucked up by normal human standards. Are we gonna get a monologue from John too about how screwed his family life was when he attacked his dad with a hammer, or how his dad would leave tests of strength like lifting a safe all over the house?
Or Jade living with a dog and a stuffed human corpse for most of her life, being given loaded pistols to play with before she was out of diapers, etc.
Singling out Dave and Bro like this is just dumb because it was generally accepted by the time those two were even introduced that Homestuck was in a stupid ass weirdo videogame world where ordinary human sensibilities didn't apply.
>>236759 >All the kids were in weird dumbass living conditions that would be considered fucked up by normal human standards.
Not really, no. The most fucked up thing about John's conditions were that his dad didn't realize he didn't like clowns and that he gave him too many cakes. The most fucked up thing about Rose's living conditions was mostly all in Rose's head as part of her teenage rebellion against an overindulgent mother--Mom did have a drinking problem and an eccentric personality, but all of those acts of "passive aggression" were entirely invented by Rose--Mom meant every single one of them with her entire being. Mom *did* have an issue with irresponsibility in that she was going to let Rose have some of her booze, and that's somewhat concerning (though it should be noted that outside of America letting teenagers have a little alcohol from time to time under parental supervision isn't that unusual), but it's nowhere near the level of Bro's neglect and outright abuse.
Jade's was pretty fucked up, but that's also part of why Jade is as fucked up as she is. Her fucked-up-edness mostly presents itself as naivety and a pollyanna-like attitude, but her social skills are pretty obviously stunted in ways that neither John's nor Rose's are. But you also can't really call Jade's upbringing abusive because her human guardian was dead and her dog guardian did a far better job than any other dog could've done in that situation. Her upbringing was mostly fucked up because of the lack of in-person human interaction, which was brought about not by neglect but by tragedy.
The Aggress/Aggrieve/etc. scenes were fucked up from a real-world human perspective (although it should be noted that they were basically just Tutorial Battles in video-game-world perspective), but you'll also notice that none of the guardians attacked their charges except for Bro. Dad gave John cakes he didn't want and sprayed silly string at him, Mom gave Rose a pony and offered to let her have some booze, and Bec teleported and played fetch with Jade.
None of this is revisionism. It was always part of the story. Hussie always does this, too--something that is presented as a joke becomes all too real later on when we see the ramifications of it all.
I'm not caring for any of these characters. Like Meenah and Vriska are just pretty boring to me and this deep scene just isn't hitting me. At all. Vriska'a being a bitch (what else is new), Meenah is and essentially always has been Vriska 2, and other (Vriska) is just getting fucked over which sucks I guess? I don't know, I thought it was pretty cool when they undid her death, but as it went on, it really just reminded me of her personality and how much I don't care for her.
I thought it was actually very nice seeing Nannasprite come back and having a heart to heart with a character. For a character who has been around since the beginning we haven't actually seen that much of her and it was nice to see some emotional development between her and another character.
But why are there two of her? And does anyone remember where the other sprites are? Dad is still MIA too. And Dirk's robots, though I doubt they'll end up ever doing anything.
>>236800 There are two of her because one is from the Game Over timeline and one is from the Alpha Timeline. Nannasprite stayed with Jade on the ark, unlike all the people/sprites who were on LOWAS when it exploded.
>at some point TOG apparently just completely gave up working on hiveswap, because they were tapped to develop king’s quest (you can see them admit this in public here at about 1 minute into this video). however, instead of dropping out of developing the game, they decided to just… not tell WP, and proceeded to spend the money they were given on KQ’s development instead.
>>236924 There weren't any human ghosts in the army last time. Vriska and Aranea can only use their psychic powers to manipul8 trolls.
>>236926 Was he? We know that, when a dead body gets prototyped, their ghost disappears from paradox space. So if this is indeed the alpha timeline Tavros who died, was prototyped in Tavrisprite, and was last seen peace-ing out just before Vriska found the treasure, then who exactly is it that's inhabiting Gcatavropsrite right now? There being a spare ghost Vriska makes at least marginal sense because she no longer died in the alpha timeline. Were there at one point two ghosts of Tavros, one from the old alpha timeline and one from the new? Are there two "alpha" ghosts of everyone?
I suppose they *were* set back in time, back at the time of Cascade, but they were part of Vriskagram, so it's in the new timeline version of Cascade at least: https://instagram.com/p/1y8M4txnet/?taken-by=thevriskaserket https://instagram.com/p/1y8SJERne0/?taken-by=thevriskaserket https://instagram.com/p/1y8X3kxnfF/?taken-by=thevriskaserket
For more recent appearances from their personal perspectives, Aradia was present in the dreambubble where (Vriska) and Meenah had their date and (Vriska) got her tattoo.
>>236979 http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009127 How about that. I didn't see her last time. I'm still waiting for something a bit more substantial like a conversation or doing something that we haven't already seen in a [S].
>>237014 See, but while Tavros has developed by becoming better at bringing people together, he hasn't actually done any development vis a vis being a leader. Deferring to Meenah was actually a totally cool thing on his part, not letting the fact that he gathered everyone together let him convince himself he was ready to take on the responsibilities of leadership. I respected him even more for stepping down than I did for gathering the army in the first place.
Admittedly, letting Meenah treat him as a podium was sort of pathetic. But it's also sort of hard for me not to read the tone with which Meenah and Tavros had that exchange as somewhat joking. I'm sure Meenah really did enjoy being dominant and Tavros was legitimately submitting, but at the same time I felt like the manner in which they were doing those things was played up for the sake of mutual jocularity. And possibly to tease Vriska.
I feel like Hussie is just trying to tie up as many loose ends as possible now. Doing things like bringing Nepeta back to life (who was honestly a completely pointless character as far as plot is concerned) and introducing two Nannasprites seems like he's trying to convince us he had always planned to make these characters he tossed to the wayside relevant again. It's almost as if he didn't aknowledge himself that he had to trim the cast down in Murderstuck because there were too many irrelevant joke characters.
Either way, I can imagine him as he prepares for the Omegapause.
"All according to keikaku!" He says, laughing as we all put up with how trite everything has felt since Game Over [S] and yet another impending hiatus.
>>237320 He's made it pretty clear that this has actual plot significance already though. Dave was said to be the one who will slay Lord English, and of wielding Caledfwlch so he can actually deal him damage. Nepeta has special advantages against the part of Lord English that is Equius. Davesprite has experience fighting the part of Lord English that is AR (assuming AR fights the way Dirk does), and has even more intimate relationship with Cal than Dave did since he had Calsprite as a sprite for a long time.
Plus, there's that theory going around that there's going to be a combination of some sort involving Callie (possibly the one who predominated) and the other half of Gamzee--Davetasprite^2 would be a good piece of that to use to be an analog to the part of Lord English that is ARQuiussprite for this "Dame British" or whatever she ends up being.
>>237338 But then why would Davesprite be the one to do that? Is it some metaphor for him also being a real Dave all the while proving once again that Dave will always have people covering his ass for him and doing all the difficult things in his life for him? I don't see what kind of advantage Nepeta has over Equius either. It was pretty obvious that Equius was the controlling/dominant one in their relaltionship, always calling the shots.Gamzee on his own was enough to make him completely worthless so her addition doesn't change anything at all if you buy in to the theory of "Dame British." Yes, Davesprite has experience getting his ass handed to him by Bro, but Dave has that exact same experience. Experience which, if you recall, involved never once winning against him. The only difference is Davesprite ended up fighting Jack with Bro, and look how well that went over. You can't honestly believe being driven up the wall by Calsprite -who did nothing but laugh and shoot smuppets at things- could possibly offer any sort of tactical advantage.
If they were looking for strength, they could've dropped Eridan in the mix and used the power that nearly killed Sollux and succesfully killed Feferi and Kanaya to their benefit. Then Hussie could have cashed in on all of that angel foreshadowing he had done with Eridan denying the "angel of double death" and destroying it just like he had done all game.
It all just seems like stupid bullshit to me, and I guess no matter what kind of justification people try to pull I will forever be a bitter grognard and despise the direction things have taken.
I sure am glad that this comic can take yet another moment to remind us that Dave and Rose are troubled characters with faults and problems and depth nobody else has because Hussie only wants to develop Dave and Rose.
>>237342 >But then why would Davesprite be the one to do that? Is it some metaphor for him also being a real Dave all the while proving once again that Dave will always have people covering his ass for him and doing all the difficult things in his life for him? I don't see what kind of advantage Nepeta has over Equius either. It was pretty obvious that Equius was the controlling/dominant one in their relaltionship, always calling the shots.
Someone doesn't remember the extended Equius/Nepeta RP session on the Meteor before they got killed by Gamzee. Equius certainly gave Nepeta orders from time to time, and she certainly obeyed them from time to time (though she was able to stand up to him if she felt like it), but Equius liked Nepeta, and his "orders" were mostly based around seeing that she was safe and that she was given the respect she deserved. He indulged her when he didn't perceive a need to protect her from the ramifications of her whims.
And that instinct to indulge and protect Nepeta is likely to still be present in Lord English. Maybe not enough to control him, but enough to make him hesitate before killing Davepetasprite.
As for the whole "Why Davesprite," it's not Davesprite, it's Davepetasprite. Davepetasprite has more of an advantage against Lord English than Alpha Dave does because Davesprite has every advantage Dave has, and also has a few others--ones which you dismiss as minor, but think of it this way: if they were Pokemon, they would both be the same species with the same IVs, but Davesprite would have a few more EVs than Alpha Dave. And that's before fusing into Davetasprite which brings in a whole host of new advantages.
The "Dame British" thing is like 80% joke. I think it's a funny little bit of speculation and I know Hussie loves his duality themes, so there's at least a chance that they're going to go for some sort of equivalency on the side of the heroes to the equation that made up Lord English. But I don't seriously vouch for a literal 1:1 analog. But I think these sprite shenanigans are definitely meant to be part of the duality theme cropping up to provide the heroes with a way to fight Lord English on more or less equal terms despite his hax.
>>237354 The main point is that why is Dave being sidelined by his alternate self when he's supposed to be the big hero? Davepeta seems like a cop out because it automatically eliminates Davesprite's existential crisis by basically nullifying his problems by becoming half troll. This all the while makes it so that Dave doesn't actually need to worry about "being a hero" because Davepetasprite will be the one to take down the big bad guy for him. Thus it eliminates HIS existential crisis, so that he can focus on telling everyone about how gay he is while more than half of the remaining population is gay/bi/pan/whatever.
>>237381 Typing this response makes your point even more relevant. Dave has faults and problems and depth that we will then forget about as recent developments make everything he has worried about completely invalid in order to introduce new problems that aren't even big deals.
Jasprosesprite said she wanted to make Nepeta her wife. Rose is dating Kanaya. Dirk has dated Jake. Roxy comments about how sexy Jane is all the time, even if she hasn't stated she's actually interested. Jane only had a problem with Dirk and Jake hooking up because she was jealous and was stuck in the middle of their relationship issues. None of the trolls even understand the concept of homosexuality. Jade is probably going to be perfectly fine with everything. John is pretty much the only person who could possibly react negatively to this, and he is usually pretty chill about things. Worst case scenario: Dave announces his crush on John, John says no homo, Dave moves on with his life, just like Dirk did when he realized he wasn't meant for Jake. Big fucking whoop.
>>237436 I feel like AR's personality lost most of what made AR's character interesting, and Equius' quirks were blown so far out of proportion that they're just a self-parody now. And considering Equius was a joke character to begin with, that's saying something. Now it's hard to take ARquius seriously in any form because he's just a floating joke with some robotics know-how. "Touch my muscles and give me milk!" Is basically his entire character.
>>237589 Yeah but Dave realized that "human society is a plague that gets in the way of growth" and that he has to throw off the shackles that it brought post-retcon. Dave is probably fine with orgies in the streets now for all we know, let alone a little polyamory.
>>237593 When did Dave say that? You put that phrase in quotation marks as if to imply that you were directly quoting Dave when you said it, but I can't find anywhere in the comic where Dave says anything like that.
I didn't see the Vriska-Terezi thing as a ship, more as a close friendship moment.
I liked the flash. There have been some moments in the comic recently that remind me of those "you've come far Ness" coffee breaks from Earthbound and this was one of them. I know the comic has gone on a lot longer than a lot of people wanted, admittedly myself included, but it's nice to have sort of a 'review' flash like this now that we're approaching the end.
Here is a light reading recommendation to help you expand your linguistic horizons. Enjoy, and hopefully you will finally be able to say that Homestuck has taught you something that could ever possibly come up in day to day living.
>>237634 Thank you for linking to that Wikipedia article on scare quotes. It made it very clear that they're being misused here. Scare quotes are used by an author to indicate that they're using a word insincerely. When you put quotation marks around an entire passage that doesn't contradict the rest of your statement, you're just straight-up quoting something, especially when you're intent is to convey the thoughts or words of someone else.
Now that it's clear that the original post to which I responded pulled that quote out of thin air, I can go about dismissing it as being completely wrong. Dave never indicated that he has any contempt for human society or any desire to reject it.
>>242266 Threads are only allowed when an update happens these days. You might get away with a "update anticipation" thread after the last one isn't up any more. Use a filter to pin the most recent homestuck thead to the top of the catalogue.
This is the thread up at the moment ==> http://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/81273875/homestuck-updates
>>242337 There's a ton of little background things that are fun to catch on rewatches. I was "meh" about the flash the first time I saw it but after watching it a second time I liked it.
Sort of a shame te last panels leading up to act 7 seem not to have been drawn by Hussie. I know guest art has been a thing in Homestuck for a long time but I'd like for it to finish off with the style I'm familiar with and remember it for.
I'm starting to wonder if he's actually gonna make it through this. I don't know how he'll escape PM, or any of the others who'll want him dead for the things he's done. But I want him to make it out alive even if he doesn't deserve it.
So it looks like Act 7 isn't gonna be an epilogue like people thought. Considering the number of pages left before the final act, it'll probably just cover what happens during/after the events of Caliborn's masterpiece.
I wonder how big act 7 will be. I'll be surprised if he manages to wrap everything up in a satisfying way. I'm not even saying that as a dig at Hussie, it just feels like we still have a lot of ground to cover.
>>242419 There's apparently going to be an epilogue that will most likely tie up a lot of loose ends. Even without that, I can't see myself disliking Act 7 for what it is. It was weird, and it left a lot of stuff to the imagination, but what did happen was very satisfying. I'm happy with where it looks like the story concludes.
>>242421 Saying you were justified in not reading Homestuck because you read some negative stuff about the final act is like saying you were justified in not watching the Lord of the Rings films because you read some negative stuff about the final shot in Return of the King. It literally takes up less than 1/10000th of the entire comic, and isn't even representative of most of the reasons people like the comic at all, namely the characters and dialog.
>>242430 >Saying you were justified in not reading Homestuck because you read some negative stuff about the final act is like saying you were justified in not watching the Lord of the Rings films because you read some negative stuff about the final shot in Return of the King. It literally takes up less than 1/10000th of the entire comic, and isn't even representative of most of the reasons people like the comic at all, namely the characters and dialog. The guy you're responding to was never interested in reading or enjoying Homestuck, he's just posturing to try to set himself as being above people who read it. Which is idiotic since he's anonymous, but it's what's happening.