>>230981 frustrating to be banned and not being able to discuss the only show I care at the moment. O well. Lolirock is still fun so far, but they definitely don't air the episodes in order, which is annoying. gonna be annoying to get in the middle of the season and have Iris discovering her sword for the first time, while Amaru save the day by using his personal battlefield.
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>>231229 1. It was already scanned by somebody two and a half years ago. Ask Sage Freehaven, he is bound to have saved it 2. To scan my copy I will have to damage a book I bought to keep forever.
You can buy it for a fooking dollah on eBay, go and do that.
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>>231237 Actually, I don't know where to find them. But then again, I haven't looked for more than 30 seconds.
The most important part is getting the digital versions, since they are superior to scans in most cases (pic related). Who released the digital version anyway?
For some reason I assumed they were just making a random gag about a business casual dress code, but it just kept going all month. I'm not sure if Dilbert is Dilbert without his crooked tie.
So I had watched Kids Next Door from when it started, but suddenly lost track of it around the last season. I finally got around to rewatching it, the last season included, and wow was I not expecting that ending.
>>231709 >Would you recommend the series? I haven't seen it in like 10 years so I forget what the humour is like.
I never thought most of it was especially funny--not now or back then--but still found the stories and characters to be entertaining overall. (P.S. Netflix has the second half of six seasons, but doesn't have the movie or the finale special).
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There was a thread on regular /co/ about this. I talked to the director, and he told me that the project is not dead, or is going to be. It's being made, while decisions are being decided over where the show will find its home. It may become a full size series, or just a few web episodes (to serve as a pilot). Only time will tell.
>>232346 Yeah, feels bad man. I know that she retired rather suddenly in 2001 and kind of vanished from the spotlight since then but did she ever explain why?
>232463 >Whats the not Gumball suppsed to be anyway?
If you mean the character, I think he and his family are goats (god only knows what the green not Darwin is supposed to be). If you mean the whole thing, I believe it's a commercial for some brand of... powdered milk? Whatever it is, it's called "Miracle Star" and comes in a cylinder.
I'm genuinely surprised by this. Most foreign knock offs (including >232462) just have blatantly similar characters for putting on covers, but different plots. The majority of that video is exactly recreating scenes from Gumball with slightly different characters. I think they even traced over some of the facial expression.
>>232466 I'm just baffled that it's simultaneous so lazy yet clearly had a lot of work put into it. Like someone clearly used screencaps to make the storyboard, but everything past then was animated from the ground up. Makes me think there was just one or two guys aware of the plagiarism, in which case, that must suck for everyone else involve.
Also, I just realized the main character looks kind of like a cartoon goat version of Lucas from Mother.
It turns out Chinese Adventure Time is called "The Legend of Lucky Pie", because not Finn's name is "Lucky Pie". The Pokey-looking not Jake is "Lucky Ge".
Goatball is an advertizing campaign for goat milk.
Someone REALLY didn't like where Mystery Inc went with characterization. Some fans are just as bad as those Anti Omniverse bag head folks and hate Wyatt just as much for some unknown reason.
And so we get a utterly different style and a characterization that is just sad. Feeling we're going to get lots of "High Humor" other than the subtle "heh Shaggy has the munchies"
//youtube.com/watch?v=E7vEcclnGY0 //youtube.com/watch?v=fpA8lItYF4Q I am enjoying the fruits of Netflix and Dream Works' collaborative efforts. I just sort of wish they'd put out more at a time, but I suppose I can wait. It's giving me a strange desire to watch all the related movies.
>>232633 Not him, but the tropes of a character make the writing.
The reason the recent Pirates movies and this Puss N Boots spinoff fail is because without the main character to play off of, the "cool" character that steals the show would get stale very quickly.
Tropes describe, not proscribe. It would definitely be possible to make a Jack Sparrow or Puss In Boots movie that doesn't suck; the writers just couldn't figure out how to do it.
I didn't think it was that bad. Although now that everyone's pointed it out, Dulcinea's huge anime eyes do look a bit strange when put next to Puss' regular eyes.
That said, I like Julien better. Call me shallow, but the more sillier cast appeals to me more than the more actiony Puss in Boots. He plays off of his supporting cast better.
>>232643 >Not him, but the tropes of a character make the writing. That is definitely a thing that non-writers and bad-writers believe, yes. Then they look at how, say, Eragon and Star Wars use pretty much exactly the same tropes and have some very difficult questions to answer regarding why the latter works and the former doesn't.
>>232701 >Get Mir to do some animation work >Stuck doing Shark Tale Series
Damn that would be suffering.
Also I thought HTTYD 2 did reasonably well. Yet it wasn't a blockbuster success and that seemed to have utterly crushed them. Where did they put all the money?
>>232707 I guess at this point they need to coast on that Netflix money. 300+ hours, at least 9 series, maybe something really fun will come out of it.
Fuckin’ CN is fucking up [adult swim] pretty hard these days. They axed half of Toonami not too long ago (that takes full effect next week, I believe), and now I find out they’re basically ‘cancelling’ Metalocalypse by sitting on the greenlight for its final season.
>>232884 >They axed half of Toonami not too long ago (that takes full effect next week, I believe) Shit. Really? I guess that's what happens when you don't have anything to replace your biggest hit that just ended and decide to play all the movies you played the year before for your movie month.
Yup. 12 to 3:30 starting next week. On the bright side, Kill la Kill premieres at 12:30 and Bleach is FINALLY gone. But yeah, replaying Bebop, GITS:SAC, et al for years on end tends to kill ratings in a way that even [as] can’t ignore.
According to comments on YouTube, this is actually an old trailer created by Saban as a ‘feeler’ for a possible Power Rangers reboot. If they’d rebooted it that way, it could’ve shown some promise - especially as a lead-in to a full-CG series or something.
>>232925 My respects to the guy and his family. I read all about it. Its real rough.
I keep having to restrain myself to talk about his work's quality - but nope. Nope. No time for that. He meant a lot to a lot of people. That's the most important part.
>>232930 Regardless of what you may think of his work, he was a very talented individual. Respect for the soul who passed away way too early. Criticizing his work right now would be a stupidly selfish thing to do.
>>232961 >People using the death of someone to defen their show against criticism. A person died - the guy was young. And meant the world to so many people. The guy was an artist and he produced a lot of work from his young age. Its not about his videos or his games.
I fucking hated his stuff but fuck you and your mindset.
>>232961 I know people like you like to be outraged at things, but let me explain to you two scenarios and why they're different.
1. Conversation about RBWY. Respondent says he doesn't like the show and why.
2. Conversation about dude's death. Respondent says "RBWY sucked."
In the first thread, someone saying "You can't think that because X just died" is trying to shield the show from cricitism. In the second thread, you are attempting to hijack a thread about sympathy for the deceased to make it about your own taste in television. You are in the right in the first thread, but in the second you are being an asshole. In the first thread you are criticizing the media that is being discussed. In the second thread you are, perhaps unintentionally, minimizing the tragedy of the person's death because of the quality of his work. You are saying "Yeah, but it's not that big a loss because his work was shitty."
This is the magic of context. Saying the exact same thing in two different contexts can mean entirely different things.
>>232966 There's a place for criticism of a person's artwork, but it doesn't go on their obituary. People want to celebrate a young man's life and memory, its no time to bring up personal feelings on something so trivial in the grand scheme of things as a webshow. Criticize to your heart's content. But know that there is a time and a place for everything: critique, discussion and silence as well.
but hey if you really wanna know, I thought his stuff was pretty shitty if mildly entertaining. hell, I've seen rwby fans say the same thing. the guy had no idea how to actually compose shots, set up sequences or use cinematography correctly unless it was ripped out from something else, but fuck it, productivity trumps talent.
Heard some of the old humor is back since the old crew is back on. Course I kinda hope that is so he can finally put this sponge to bed. Regardless what Nick likes to do. Let the Sponge rest.
>>233041 >Heard some of the old humor is back since the old crew is back on.
Stephen Hillenburg being the big one. (C.H. Greenblatt contributed to the film as well.) And yeah, there were some callbacks to gags that haven't been used in a long time.
Realistic fish head is back. Along with "My leg!" guy.
>>233039 I'm not surprised that it's decent, but I'm still too butthurt about it being CGI to watch it anytime soon. Not because of anything against the medium, but because it's so blatantly because executives still think a 2D movie can't make money.
>>233017 >>233018 >>233021 Why do people hate this? (Serious question, I was never that much of a Tom & Jerry fan so I wanna know what you can do wrong with that concept - well... I know what the movies did wrong tho)
There are three major eras of the T&J theatrical shorts: Hanna-Barbera, Deitch, and Chuck Jones. It’s generally up in the air as to whether HB or Chuck gets the nod for the better shorts (it typically comes down to individual shorts rather than the body of work as a whole), but Deitch’s shorts never get brought up in the discussion—and for good reason.
Deitch actually hated T&J for the slapstick violence (not to mention the racist caricature that is the original Mammy Two-Shoes), so he basically did everything possible to separate his version of T&J from basically every other style of animated short in the US (which wasn’t hard, since he and his animation team were Czechoslovakian). Everything looked, sounded, and ‘felt’ so much different than the T&J shorts from either side of the Deitch run that I can’t think of any T&J fan, animation historian, etc. who would willingly place those shorts anywhere near the top 10, let alone the top 100, of a list of the best T&J shorts. (161 T&J shorts were produced between 1940 and 1967; Deitch directed 13 of them.)
I’ll give you an example of each major era and let you decide if Deitch’s work deserves anything but the scorn it receives: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e38cj_tom-and-jerry-posse-cat_fun — Hanna-Barbera Era http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20ziyu_calypso-cat_shortfilms — Gene Deitch Era http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2g4kn7_tom-and-jerry-cartoon-the-mouse-from-h-u-n-g-e-r_tv — Chuck Jones Era
You can find most T&J shorts on DailyMotion if you want to do more research; just do a search for the title of a given short from this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Jerry_filmography
No one asked for a DVD set of Deitch’s T&J shorts—for good reason. Collectors might want it, but even then, I’d bet on them thinking twice before putting the money down for it.
>>233103 to be honest, I mostly hate those Tom and Jerry episodes because of the 60's electro sounds/music . thre's still lots of slapstick in it, and some episode are less "evil tom vs good jerry that do no wrong" so I'll it that. The animation was cheap, though, when the older gens made the show a standard to follow in animation for decades.
Part of the cheapness of the animation comes from where it was made—as I said, Deitch and his animation team were Czechoslovakian. (Also, at the time, Czech animation style was so far removed from anything done in T&J and other ‘gag-driven’ cartoons that Deitch's team had to learn basically every technique that Deitch loved about T&J.)
I'm sad I forgot to watch Mr. Peabody and Sherman when it came out like I wanted to, it is quite charming. I hear it's going to be one of Dreamworks' Netflix shows, too.
I wonder when CN Development Studios Europe is gonna get another full show. Gumball started almost four years ago, and Cartoon Network Studios have premiered five shows and a miniseries since then.
>>233325 They are hemorrhaging money (dreamworks is) and they have to fulfill hundreds of hours of programming. Some Disney Tween stuff was bound to come into play.
I love RebelTaxi. He deserves way more subscribers than he has. I can't really explain why I like him, but his awkwardness carries a special charm and I feel like I would act the very same if I did a review series.
>>233339 He's okay. I'd say the guy has about as many subscribers as he deserves. Not everyone wants to trudge through 2 hour podcasts just to hear 30 minutes of actual podcast worthy stuff.
>>233347 The difference between word-of-mouth and "viral" marketing is that word-of-mouth is the natural progression of recommendations from person to person, while "viral" is a single person or company posting across multiple sites (sometimes multiple times) in an effort to make it seem like word-of-mouth.
Claims that the former are actually the later are usually used against whatever is being "marketed" when the accuser does not like the thing in question and wants to sow distrust.
>PORTLAND, OR February 18, 2015 – Oni Press, Portland’s premier independent comic book publisher, announced today it is collaborating with Jhonen Vasquez and Nickelodeon in producing an ongoing comic book series based on the beloved animated show Invader Zim. The series will explore a new chapter in Zim’s Earth invasion and the adventures of GIR, Dib and Gaz. The first comic will release on July 1st, 2015.
>>233354 It's not typical form to invite all your friends to provide DVD commentary on all 27 episodes of something you consider your biggest failure and want nothing to do with. I'd like to see those unfinished episodes in comic form too, although it may restart afresh and only cannibalize the episodes for parts.
>>233360 I don't think the show itself was honestly as "lolsorandumb xD" as all that, it was mostly the insufferable juvenile fanbase calling themselves penguins of doom and holding up sporks. I've got a looong complicated history with this show, and more of it was to do with the people it attracted than the show itself, it was a silly zeitgeisty romp that became a cultural lightning rod for a specific subset of impressionable troubled yoofs.
But yeah, looking forward to seeing new Zim stuff.
From what I can sleuth, it sounds like Dreamworks will be doing a 2D animated Mr. Peabody cartoon. I've been following their youtube channel to see if they'll say anything about that and boy do they put out a lot of videos that get hardly any views.
>>233467 I can see that. Pixar films were always about trying something new. Like trying to animate large crowds of ants, or trying to do long hair, or trying to do good water, or convincingly doing humans
>>233467 You know, I'd agree? But the HTTYD films really shook things up a bit. Especially with Pixar becoming more commercial as well. the Dragons movies are good movies but bad when compared to regular "Pixar" quality like Incredibles, Wall-E or Ratatouille. But they're definitely better than the likes of the Cars movies or such.
Disney for a while felt super simplisticly commercial, too for a bit. Chicken Little felt terribly insincere for example - but they've clearly been better than both for a while now. Who knows what happened there.
>>233479 Yeah, I've had a chance to watch a bunch of Dreamworks movies since Dreamworks and Netflix are apparently best friends now, and they're all quite good. I have to admit when I think of Dreamworks I still sort of think of them in that old "We're going to directly challenge Disney/Pixar by making similar movies to them" mode. Though to their credit, none of them really directly compare besides the premise, they're all different movies.
>>233481 Yeah. Megamind was Actually Pretty Great, the Kung Fu Panda movies are gorgeously done Up There with HTTYD, a few movies haven't really hit the mark like Turbo (which had a misleading as fuck trailer and i hate it for that because I've always wanted an animated F1 movie)
And hell, the chase sequence at the beginning of Madagascar 3 was the best modern-day Cartoon Physics scene I've ever seen. I saw critics complaining about it, but it was far better than the rest of the movie, for sure.
My issues with the Deus Ex Machina that is the magic amulet aside, Secret of NIMH is a fucking masterpiece of animation and probably as good a movie as you can get out of the original book.
>>233625 are you the guy that is trying to dose that show on /co/? Why is there suddenly oggy threads every day when the last episode aired 2 years ago in France?
I saw Paddington for the last day it was available in theaters where I am. And it was really, really good. I was turned off by the plot at first, but as the film went on, I thought it worked well. There were a lot of little details that made it stand out above other movies of its ilk.
>>233643 Interesting updates to current technology which actually makes the show better, not worse (compared to Simpsons). The cockroaches use mobile phones for their hijinx now for example and keep messing with Oggy's computer and personal data.
Also, I dunno if it was just in the German dub, but the first airing of the show had a fucking annoying announcer talking in rymes, which made it just stupid. They scrapped it for the new version.
>>233685 >The cockroaches use mobile phones for their hijinx now for example and keep messing with Oggy's computer and personal data. That means nothing to me, but I'll give it a fair shot.
Basically it's Tom and Jerry (2 Toms and 3 Jerries?) where you're allowed to root against whoever is being the biggest jerk in any given episode. Unlike where you're always expected to root for Jerry no matter what.
>>233728 >>233732 Hayter is still Snake, the whole no Hayter thing is a publicity stunt by Kojima. Even if he wasn't Snake, the fact that he would still be in the game means that it was an artistic decision, not a corporate one. But the PPG being recast is unacceptable, on a level of Futurama being recast and is a shitty move on CN's part.
>>233812 He's got stipulations to Sony funding the rights acquirement. More good films he puts out and then the more they'll let him have his way with Samurai Jack.
>>233818 Also HOLY SHIT this looks awesome! http://www.bricksandbloks.com/lego-simpsons-kwik-e-mart-hi-res-photos-revealed/ I may not have given a fuck about the simpson house but Kwik-e-Mart, I could use that for my turtles and stuff!
>>233880 Because he likes to tell stories with mindless "comedy" not being on the Radar. But since the new head of Sony Animation is Ex-Dreamworks..ugh. Be prepared for more "wacky characterization" And celebrity actors that will not fit the roles. And likely a Sassy talking Jeep. Ugh I cringe.
>According to a Sony Pictures Animation spokesman I contacted today - and I quote: "Genndy has been developing both Popeye and his original idea Genndy Tartakovsky's Can You Imagine? (temp title) at the same time while directing Hotel Transylvania 2."
>"It initially looked like Popeye would happen first but Imagine pulled ahead and is now scheduled to be his next directorial film at Sony Pictures Animation. That said Popeye is still very much in active development."
>>233891 Damn, still sad to hear he had to let go of Popeye since he understands it far better than anyone else they will get to replace him. But its Nice he's doing a full body of work. How is Faust's Medusa film doing anyway?
>>233890 >Because he likes to tell stories with mindless "comedy" not being on the Radar. What? Genndy loves mindless comedy. It's not like he's only ever written War and Peace novels.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/03/14/nickelodeon-topless-cartoon-boobs-nip-slip-oggy-and-the-cockroaches/ See I remember seeing that on the french version and assumed someone would have noticed before bringing it over.
>>233950 >http://www.tmz.com/2015/03/14/nickelodeon-topless-cartoon-boobs-nip-slip-oggy-and-the-cockroaches/ >parent forced to talk to their child about things
>>233961 I hate this argument. Parents wanting to avoid depictions of sex and nudity in the media their children consume is completely rational. Parents should make sure talk to their kids about these things, but the only people who should decide when and why those talks happen should be the parents. It shouldn't be forced on them by the TV shows the kids watch.
>>233963 I can understand that, but as of now the lack of certain content in children cartoons is used more as an excuse to sideline discussion of certain things as "too adult" such as homosexual relationships. And that is something that should be more open about to kids and itself shouldn't be seen as something sexual in nature.
>>233964 We're talking about a picture of a topless woman with fully exposed breasts, not Korra and Asami holding hands. This discussion has nothing to do with the depictions of homosexual relationships in children's media.
>>233963 No. Part of growing up is learning that the world isn't the room your parent imprison you until you are 18. Parent's role isn't to blind their kids, it's to let them see and explain, before, during and after. But If you don't accept that the world has things to show to your kids, then don't have kids, you will hurt them.
>>233965 >We're talking about a picture of a topless woman with fully exposed breasts So what? breast aren't source of any sort of confusion nor trauma. really young kids feed from it. And without libido you can put as much tits in their face as you want it's not going to create anything in their mind. Unless you actually believe yourself that it's bad even for an adult to see tits. In that case, you have problems. Lots of them.
>>233967 I usually don't get into these sorts of arguments, but you seem to be missing the point. I would want to control how and when my kids get exposed to sex. You're telling me that a faceless woman in a thong with her tits thrust forward isn't meant to be sexual? Why on earth would I want my kid's first exposure to sex to be that? There's a difference between education and this.
>>233968 The way the picture is presented isn't really that sexual. It might be used for purpose of sexual stimulation in our culture, but as it is the only context kids will get from it is a less taboo view of nudity which is just fine.
>>233966 >>233967 Thanks for turning this into a personal attack on my values and my hypothetical parenting skills. This is the same argument I've seen so many times before whenever the topic of censoring sexual content in children's media comes up. You set up a straw man version of my position that says that children should never be exposed to anything sexual, even though I specifically said the contrary in my first post. Here, I'll quote it for you:
>Parents should make sure talk to their kids about these things, but the only people who should decide when and why those talks happen should be the parents.
Try to actually read it this time.
>>233969 Completely ignoring the idea that less nudity taboo among children is a good thing, the notion that none of the children who watch this show will be mature enough to see a topless woman as a sexual image is ridiculous. At some age, our perception of the human body changes. You have no way of controlling whether or not the children who are exposed to this are all below that age.
>>233963 >I hate this argument. Parents wanting to avoid depictions of sex and nudity in the media their children consume is completely rational. Parents should make sure talk to their kids about these things, but the only people who should decide when and why those talks happen should be the parents. It shouldn't be forced on them by the TV shows the kids watch.
Tits aren't sex organs. They are erogenous zones for many women, but so are the earlobes. Toplessness isn't really something that kids need to be "ready for" to deal with--almost 100% of children see their mom's naked tits within like a day of being born. Why is it that you think it is important that parents be allowed to choose the time and the place to say "Hey kids, by the way, you know how you have nipples? So do adult women."
>>233971 >but the only people who should decide when and why those talks happen should be the parents. No. You are raising kids, not pets. You don't own their life to that degree. You never will.
>>233982 My understanding is that most of those complaints were sent after some religious group spurred a writing campaign. So America's overall prudish nature is not necessarily reflective of the people at large, but a small-and-vocal minority. Essentially, the rest of us accept this kind of thing to keep the babies from crying too loudly. Hopefully once the majority of the boomers die off/go senile we can move on.
>>233985 Well outcry over Korra and now Steven Universe has been very minimal so things are improving, though instead of prude it's now assholes that just outright say they don't like gays instead of putting it behind a mask.
"As a parent, though you play an integral role in your child's education and upbringing, you do not always have the best judgement as to how a person's introduction to sexuality should be."
I don't disagree but ya don't gotta be a douche about it.
>>233977 >>233978 I'm from the apparently crackpot school of thought who believes that parents should have the final say in what their kids watch and how they are raised. They should be the ones to decide when their child is mature enough to handle things like nudity, violence, and sex in the media they consume.
>>233980 >says an image is acceptable for a children's cartoon >posts it online using a NSWF tag Hmmm.
>>233985 Everyone wants to think the majority is on their side.
>>234005 I don't believe in exposing young kids to too much sexual content at too early of an age either, but that kind of thinking is what leads to parents denying their children access to vaccines or proper medicine, or taking their kids out of biology class because it could expose them to ideas they're not ready for yet, like how reproductive systems work or *gasp* the theory of evolution. There was one kid in my class like that, and the fact that the parents lost out on that one should give you an idea.
>>234014 Though I can understand it to some length, maybe if television had forced some parents hand with some issues some kids wouldn't wind up teen pregnant. Willful Ignorance of behaviors because you don't see them doesn't help people.
I just think it's hysterical that the terrible consequences of showing these boobs are that...he had to have a talk with his kid about boobs. The horror.
I actually do NOT agree with this, because historically parents have done a really piss-poor job of actually relaying any of that information in a timely and accurate manner.
>>234018 Its one reason its so out there in other cultures because they know parents will be shit about approaching the issues because it makes them uncomfortable. Again getting it out there may help kids better understand before their hormones lead them into trouble with no instructions. Bottom line there has to be a better way than "we'll talk about when your older" which usually ends with "I hope you'll find out on your own when your older"
>>234019 >>234018 Way to much assumptions and using "parents" as a blank boogeyman is always a terrible, terrible ideas. Just like thinking about "the children". You address nothing and just use words for their moral weight instead of reality.
>>234005 >I'm from the apparently crackpot school of thought who believes that parents should have the final say in what their kids watch and how they are raised. They should be the ones to decide when their child is mature enough to handle things like nudity, violence, and sex in the media they consume. Just answer me this: do you feel the same way when you see shirtless men on TV? Should, say, men going surfing be censored on TV so parents can explain to kids that men have nipples before they deal with it? Or can you at least admit that this is a sexist double standard that you are simply comfortable with standing behind?
>>234064 It comes from the American perception that the French are weak cowards should consider Americans to be cannon fodder for colonial adventures and a bunch of stuck up pervs, and the French perception that the Americans are warmongers who conquered Europe, are immensely prudish, and are intellectually inferior.
>>234074 >>234073 The cover got pulled because the artists behind it all agreed it wasn't appropriate for a YA-demographic comic and it went against the tone of the books.
Of course there was people objecting to it but that just lead to the usual suspects screaming "muh censorships" and "muh free speech" but that only matters with stuff they agree with, considering they got equally pissed off when the artists themselves voted against the thing.
>>234098 Although wow, that easy to get PTSD. Or is she just particularly sensitive and vulnerable to it, which it seems like she was trying to state in some of those tweets.
>>234098 Look, we know you can't stand Marvel, and that's fine. I don't have a strong opinion about either them or DC. And I don't have a problem with this post in isolation because that behavior is shitty.
But it seems like most of the posts you make either on here or /mtv/ are passive aggressive potshots and other people posting negatively about Marvel or praise and promotional info on anybody who's in competition with them. Almost like you're some sort of freelance anti-Marvel propagandist. And according to some other posters here, you're some sort of Marvel hatespammer on the other /co/ too. Did you or a friend of yours work there once and get badly burned or something?
>>234101 Try actually reading the posts I make (such as >>233637 or >>233863), instead of making baseless assumptions. Especially when I made no mention of Marvel at all, regarding the Chris Sims controversy.
Not that it actually justifies Sims' behavior, but Punisher Butterfly was genuinely pretty bad, barely even a Punisher comic at all. I'm not surprised that anybody who's read it wouldn't want her back after that.
Speaking of CA, http://comicsalliance.com/the-vocal-minority-and-artistic-integrity-in-comics/ Why the argument that it's "censorship" to ditch a cover which is false advertising for what's inside the Batgirl comic anyway is dumb.
>>234107 This seems to try to paint Sims equally as a victim a little too much, as well as outright speaking for him at times as opposed to speaking about him.
>>234122 What if it was Chuck Austen instead? Because from what I can see, whatever crap this woman wrote still can't even get close to touching the sheer depths of horrible and downright offensiveness that he inflicted on X-Men for years on end. And it's not even funny bad like Liefeld's shit, it's soulcrushingly bad in general.
>>234125 Even then no. It's basic human decency no matter how much you hate someone's work to limit your criticism to the professional work only and never directly at the person making it (something places like scans_daily can't seem to understand for all their rules about "civility"). Jeph Loeb's Ultimates is some of the worst tripe I have ever read in any medium, but that doesn't mean it's OK for me to mock him for anything other than his writing skills. If they start shit first like John Byrne, even then there's still not much point in retaliating.
Suppressing the urge to hate someone for their work, and insult that person, is NOT basic human decency, it's something you have to teach yourself not to do. People hate Michael Bay. People hate Stuart Snyder. People hate Mike Scully. If it were "basic human decency" not to, people wouldn't do that, because they would INHERENTLY feel it would be the wrong thing to do. It's an extremely common emotion, and so it's perfectly logical and understandable to hate someone as a person because you feel they ruined something you love, no matter how much you probably shouldn't.
So stop using that stupid fucking condescending phrase as if it's on the same level of shaking someone's hand when you meet them.
Interesting, New Scooby Show is not to be found on the website even though its a premier for this year and they are recording since its been posted by Kate Micucci though no word if her character is a one shot or maybe a recurring replacement for Linda Cardellini who did Marcie. It had been my thought to have Cardellni sub for Micucci in the Ninja Turtles since while not a sound alike they are similar enough for it to work.
>>234144 Hate is not the same thing as actively going after them, though. THAT'S basic human decency. Just keep going with your life and let a shitty comic go.
Besides, said hate comes out of this sense of ownership over something like Transformers or a TV channel. "That's not MY TF!" "That's not MY Batman!" "They're ruining it with what isn't MY interpretation of the character!". Its something they feel because fuck damn they put too much stock into something. Like they're the gatekeepers of some multi million dollar corprorate IPs and they're doing things without their permission.
A moral system is formed by the environment around the conscience. You're not obligated to feel wrong about doing something without repercussion. Going for the extreme, its like a child soldier not feeling any qualms about killing because thats all they've ever known.
>>234144 It's normal to be upset at people who mishandle things you love, as long as you keep your expression of that anger to yourself. There's nothing wrong with being upset at how Jeph Loeb ruined Ultimate Marvel forever, or at David Goyer for his inability to write decent dialogue or do basic Googling on the things he complains about, and I agree only the most self-righteous stuck up snob would believe that people have no right to feel some degree of hate or strong emotion over something that terrible.
What is basic human decency however is the part where I don't actually go and send Loeb hatemail or tell him he should stop writing comics on his own website or post on messageboards about how he's a hack who needs to stop crying over his dead son or some of the other equally shitty things people have actually said about him. From all accounts Loeb is a super nice guy, but if he to start acting like Uwe Boll and call everyone who dislikes his work a piece of shit who deserves to die, then I would be more justified in calling him an asshole on top of a terrible writer. But even then you gotta have some standards, and actively going on the warpath against someone because I didn't like what they did with something I liked isn't a part of them.
>>234162 I don't get this. A lot of people seem to hate KND, when I know I loved it as a kid. It had lots of worldbuilding and continuity, with decent action, and hey what was wrong with the voice acting? I liked it.
>>234163 I agree about the worldbuilding aspect but no amount of lore is good when the cast of characters is so aggressively unlikeable. I don't remember the voice acting being bad either, most of the people they used are quite competent but I do think a lot of the voices they used for the adults were pretty obnoxious.
>>234164 Maybe I just need to rewatch the series, because again, I don't remember things like the characters being unlikeable, at least none of the main cast. If nothing else, they were memorable.
KND had an interesting evolution as a show with the lore growing with it and Nigel being one of the few that understands that some of their beliefs are batnutz insane. I'd like to see where this goes if it comes to fruition.
>>234175 Delayed most likely. On the back burner till Snyder left since part of it was some grand multiverse concept with all Cartoon Network properties fronted by Sugar.
>>234211 IT BEGINS..AGAIN!! Trick with the rainbow is to click on the nose till it turns into a database search thing. Then enter names as you see fit. Deepest Lore.
The Delightful children flushed down the big toiler at the end of the series.
"key" : "delightful children from down the lane", "response" : "classified"
Wonder what is going on there and why one of them is listed by name. The short brunette that wore shades like Nigel when they were reverted for a short time.
Ooh, another 5 episodes up in a few weeks. I did resent the 5 epsiodes every 3-4 months release schedule, but it's a lot easier to take a break from what I'm watching if it's only 2.5 hours.
Another promo. Given the english singing, I bet Disney Channel will import this to the UK/US eventually. They are really ripping off Sailor Moon a lot, the microphone is exactly like SM's wand. I do find it hilarious that one of them is called Talia. What'd Ra's say, if he knew his daughter dyes her hair blue and fights for the freedom of Earth? :D
Surprised at the clip off all of this. Few months by it was "Gays and Lesbians in children media, maybe in a decade or two." Then it all just start to come down and is picking up speed.
>>234359 Comics have different rules from TV though. It's a more niche medium with lower production costs that requires an active effort by parents to get in the hands of kids, so you can get away with openly putting things like that in comics quicker than you can in TV. I think the Korra and Steven Universe things were just coincidences, though--cartoons take too long for one to have inspired the other, unless Bryke and Rebecca Sugar discussed it before their shows aired.
>>234360 >I think the Korra and Steven Universe things were just coincidences, though But theyre not the only depictions of such in western kids media, though. Not to say it prevalent either, but its clearly something many people in the industry want to actively fight for. Would it be cool if showrunners talked to eachother? Yeah totes. Is it likely? ...mm, probably not.
>>234360 Clarence beat them to it by a while, though it was moderately censored. More that there was probably some sort of relaxation in the rules for what could and couldn't be depicted at the very top of the line, then when the studios got wind of it they all figured it was time for something like that to show up.
>>234361 Production has been wanting to push forward for a while now its just executives are really squeamish or are known for being so that kept show runners from bringing it up. Its why while they kicked the idea around they didn't approach the network about Korra getting together with Asami till book 4 of the series because they had the idea they'd be shot down from the start. And even though this is happening in a comic Jem is a property that is clearly aimed toward children and so that is surprising how quickly things are starting to appear in that market when it was considered "too adult" material just a few years back.
Maybe it was response, last time many of them tried something was when the moral righteous groups still had a lot of sway. Then after the lack of blow back from gay couples and lesbian parents to the fount of Support of Korra and Asami being a first bisexual couple in a kids show. I do hope things are changing for the better across all the media kids have.
Were there any complaints from moral guardian groups raised about Ruby and Sapphire? I can't remember, although even if there was anything major the showrunners have the excuse of saying they're aliens who don't have genders and may as well be robots doing the clangclang.
>>234366 There's no such group. The whole "soccer moms" is a shitty boogeyman that haven't been a thing for decade. Sure, you get angry people on twitter from time to time, but moral groups and other organized stuff is a faint memory from the past.
>>234367 Well point is there used to be such and there would have even been negative press about it as well with some yahoo talking about "child corruption" and such garbage.
There still is but that kinda blather is now regulated mainly to the blogs which act more as an echo chamber than a soapbox.
>>234366 Well there was this //youtube.com/watch?v=zpzVmz5GYds But I guess thats not the Ruby & Sapphire you are talking about. >>234357 Neat, love how they dont make a big deal out of it.(yet atleast) >>234359 Huh? Anyway, I dont think I have cash for that after getting the CE for Bloodborne...
>>234364 >Jem is a property that is clearly aimed toward children Hmmm... >Looks at how they are dressed >Also 80's as fuck Yeah I dont think so. And comixologi gives it a 12+ rating.
Anyway, I know in my heart that Chromdome and Rewind are only a couple so James Roberts can do this: //youtube.com/watch?v=z3Ef1WhfBzo Because he's a barstard like that! A true master of toying with emotions. Poor Trailcutter...
>>234367 While they're not as influential these days, groups like the Parent Television Council and American Family Association used to hold a ton of sway in the 90s and early 00s. Granted, LGBT seemed to be lower on their list of priorities than things like sex, nudity, and blasphemy, but their power seems to have waned around the same time that the LGBT movement really kicked into sway. Plus you've still got obnoxious blowhards like One Million Moms around.
>>234373 Shit, nevermind I'm dumb and didn't notice the >haven't been a thing for decade in the original quote. The thing about One Million Moms still stands though.
>>234382 might be useful in all those shitty super tangential threads on /co/ where comics are only vaguely noticeable in the OP pic, then it devolve to feminism/ecelebs/sexuality shit.