I haven't bothered to check out to check out Original Sin, as I figure anything that happens in an event book are ultimately going to be unimportant to the books I end up reading anyway. It's held true since, like, I don't know. The event that came after Secret Invasion? Was it Siege? Either way, I don't put much stock into those sort of things, nor all the rebranding that goes with it. Dark Reign was the most obnoxious about it.
Anyone red the Deadpool Wedding Special, by the way? They had all the major Deadpool writers come back to do some short Deadpool stories.
>>227424 It's just going to cover what happened when the time portal in Horizon Labs went kablooie and flung him into the future, something that happened months ago. Hell, they explicitly advertise it as the prelude to Spider-Verse. It's probably a way to milk the Superior name a bit more and explain Otto and Peter's inevitably team up in the event.
He does some interesting things with the whole "SATAN IS INHABITING A THOUSAND CORPSES!" thing. I think they also reveal that Zarathos (The demon possessing Blaze) is actually an angel whose mission was corrupted. Or something. There's also a great story drawn by Richard Corben mixed in. There's also the World War hulk tie in where Ghost Rider takes a break from Hunting Satan to visit Hulk, only for him to be like "Nah, you're justified, dude. You keep on keeping on." after a short skirmish.
>>227550 Good to know, since amazon keeps trowing me his "Ultimate Collection" and I didn't knew if screw it up Ghost Rider in the fantastic way he did it with Deadpool. Blessed be Posehn.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Because of his Ghost Rider, I went in to his Deadpool pretty optimistic, and was surprised by how shitty it was. Then I realized he was the same guy doing Wolverine Origins and it all made sense. I really like how how Ben Blacker explained away the second Dialogue box as being Madcap accidentally fused with Deadpool. Damn, that was a great issue.
(Also, for some reason my name was missing from the previous post. it's back now)
Yup, those two pretty much fixed the entire mess that Way did, and just in time for people to understand that Deadpool isn't just a LELSORANDUM character. It almost kicks away all his mythos from his first series, Agent X and his team-up with Cable. Also, his over-saturation didn't helped as well.
The Gates to the Cabal Worlds open as Red Skull's dark schemes reach their apex. Amidst a storm of betrayal and violence, a fractured team of Avengers rallies under Captain America, but even that might not be enough to prevent the birth of a terrifying cosmic menace as the first season of Avengers Assemble nears its world-wrecking conclusion:
Wasn't there a MILES DOES EXIST IN 616 cliffhanger that was never followed due Superior bullshit? Not usre why everybody is assuming this is the original Ultimate version
>>227667 From the end of Spider-Men. I think a lot of people bet that 616 Miles is a villain or already dead. Personally I don't see Bendis making Miles a part of the All-New X-Men book for very long because he probably has more control over what happens in the Ultimate universe. Miles is the only thing keeping those books afloat and, much as Bendis likes to connect all his work, he probably recognizes that Miles has greater potential in his own little universe. Of course it could also just be a Spiderverse tie-in.
>>227819 Seen it that way for a while myself, Symby would rather be with Peter than anyone else. Though its most stable paring would likely be with someone that loves Peter as much as it does. Maybe Anna Maria will get it.
>>227819 *pffth* I have been thinking that since Spectacular Spider-Man. It suck extra hard be her/it in that show with Peter trying to kill her/it.
And thats maybe way I made a in head only fanfic of them having a sort of Ryuko Senketsu thing WAAAY before Kill la Kill was even born.
Also Symby could so easly play on Peter MASSIVE gulit complex. "Please feed me Peter, I'm soo hungry... It hurts, help... Just a nibble can't hurt a superpower man like you. Or so I hope... Please..."
>>227827 Damn that ending tearing her heart out at reminding her of Senketsu. Just the title of the OVA episode I feel no happiness to be had there.
As for Peters bond Kinda how it works, well with some hosts though maybe Peter just keeps denying what he feels for the Symbiote. Or as per usual is scared of such a bond. But its part of the reason its still "Venom" is its being a standup "lady" carrying a torch for Peter. Be funny if someone knocks Peter over the head with the fact that she/it loves him at some point when its separated again. Peter being all being all clinical and shit about its reactions to him and someone like Sue asks Peter about the last time he was in love.
>>227828 Or he could try the "return to me" trick as seen in Final Showdown - Venom vs Spiderman Except this time it sort of back fires by her/it just lovenly embrassing him. "Home..."
Then Eddie B. goes "But, but... Mah REVENGE? GAAAH!" and turns into Anti-venom to get back at both of them down the line.
Also what if you mix Iron Spidey with Symby Spidey?
>>227270 I'm disgusted by people who pay for Marvel Comics, its like you are paying for the "privilege" to be shat on with horribly written events. Now they aren't even original instead they try to ape the movies as much as possible.
I like Ms.Marvel though it is a little decompressed for a monthly but its world building a whole new set of stuff for her so it gets some leeway. I like that the tone is overall fun compared to just about the rest of everything. I really hope it can keep it.
Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-man is great but it's moving sooooo sloooow. Which i didn't expect because Bendis has been keeping his X-books fairly packed. Dunno about GotG, only read the All-New X-men tie in issues.
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>>227835 Thats what I thought too. Fucking does make lots off adrenaline after all. Even if it lack of knowledge leads to hilarious failure.
Like, Gwen is sitting on Petes bed doing homework as Peter walks over to help. "I know, if I trip Petey up and make him fall into Gwen's arms it will be all romantic and stuff" thinks Symby to her self. *Peter falls in such a way that their heads meet and results in a double KO* "Oops..." Then Aunt May walks in and see PnG out cold on top off one another on the bed. She almost had to go to the hospital from laughting too hard when she found out what happend. *And Symby did not get to feed of Peter that night* The End.
The hammer wielder will be a woman for a bit. Not the first time its gone to someone else. Hope she's a mortal and its not just being passed off to one of his siblings or a Valkyrie. So will her replacement hammer after Thor gets his back be as good as Stormbreaker?
Between Girl-Thor, Cap Falcon, FF breaking up, Wolverine "dying", and something big supposedly happening to the mutants I can't tell what they're doing anymore. They just seem like gimmicks to be but I think that's just me being jaded.
>>228562 Kinda feels like the New Jedi Order Vong War era of the Star Wars books (hooray that not existing anymore) Doing a whole bunch of edgy crap starting with Crushing Chewie with a moon to show things are "serious". Though overall its just changes for the sake of change to attempt getting attention. Like how they are promoting the whole Thor thing. Yea its just another worthy person like its been in the past, so?
>>228562 It definitely sounds like some kind of desperate sales gimmick, like a reboot free New 52 or something, the sort of rebranding that came out of the Heroic Age or Marvel Now.
Honestly, this kind crapshoot 'new status that lasts only long enough to undo the new status' storytelling wore me out around the time of Siege. If Marvel can't tell any story besides some variation of "our hero is replaced by someone new and completely different" I don't know how much I can care about any of their characters. They've been doing this dumb "x is out, y is IN" bullshit as the core of their line since Civil War.
>>228592 On diversifying? Because DC has done a bit (Wally).
Anyway, my concern with this whole thing is that it won't last and we'll be back to status quo. This isn't even the first time someone else took the mantle of Captain America (Bucky). And with original Thor wondering around, it's not hard to imagine there won't be a "Fight for the true Mjolnir wielder!" crossover event down the line.
I saw Scott Snyder tweet about the new female Thor, comparing it a bit to the Doc Ock/Spider-Man story Dan Slott did. That just makes me more cynical, as it just reassures me her time is short and we'll be back to ManThor before Avengers 2 hit theaters. Just like how Peter went back to Spider-Man in time for Amazing Spider-Man 2.
I can't remember who at Marvel said this, but when the first cover of the New 52 Justice League comic came out, someone said it was good, but would have made Superman black. I didn't think much of the comment, since Marvel had done very little at the time to suggest it would make a big racial change with its own characters. Now, with USM, Ghost Rider, Ms. Marvel, Thor, and Captain America, Marvel has proven it can back it up.
But here's the thing: If female Thor, black Captain America, and any other racial changes Marvel has in mind are only temporarily, than that does far more harm than not showing any diverse representation at all. It will send a message that in the end, only white male superheroes prevail. I want Marvel to stick to its guns, but the comic book industry has proven time and time again that anything meaningful and progressive will always be wiped out in the end. The only change I'm confident Marvel (or DC) will keep is having their heroes "hip and single" by destroying any marriage or longtime relationship in the most retarded of ways.
>>228594 Can you really use Wally when they stomped him out of existence for 3+ years?
The new52 is disgusting in how safe it plays everything, Marvel, even if it doesn't last is fucking with shit and I'll take that over meaningless gorefest after gorefest with FUCKING NOTHING INTERESTING EVER HAPPENING.
>>228594 On the movie side of things, I do find it funny that Marvel Studios has been conservative in its casting, while Sony casts Jamie Fox as Electro in Amazing Spider-Man 2, and 20th Century Fox casts Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch in the Fantastic Four reboot. On the Daredevil Netflix show, Marvel Studios is reverting back to a white Kingpin.
DC/WB (rightfully) gets slack for tiptoeing on a Wonder Woman movie, while Marvel can make a film about a talking raccoon. But until Marvel Studios releases a Captain Marvel trailer, it doesn't really deserve any kudos. Especially when Marvel Studios is so determined to release train wreck the Ant Man film has become, that produce a superhero movie with a female or minority lead.
Agent Carter on ABC is something, though. I'll give Marvel credit for that.
>>228595 >Marvel, even if it doesn't last is fucking with shit
I don't share the same sentiment. If these changes are only temporarily, than Marvel was never with it. I want Marvel to be sincere with these changes. I don't want everyone currently bitching about a female Thor or a black Captain America to feel catered to a year from now, if Marvel reverts everything back to normal. I want Marvel to drag those "fans" into the 21st century kicking and screaming.
>>228597 A Black Widow film isn't confirmed; only in talks.
>At any given point, there are a number of concepts being developed as potential films. It’s the reason why you probably heard about the “Black Panther” movie years ago and then saw nothing. Feige’s quote proves that, yes, there has been some concrete steps towards a Black Widow movie. What we don’t know is whether that amounts to anything more than an outline on the back of a napkin.
For its phase 3 set of films, Captain America 2, Thor 3, Ant-Man, and possibly Dr. Strange (got a director and screenwriters) are the only surefire thing we'll see from Marvel Studios.
And FYI, I'm buying more Marvel books than DC (Tiny Titans for now; new Batgirl in October).
>>228598 Creative teams shuffle, that's why it's nearly impossible to make things stick forever, it's not a sentiment it's a facet of the industry.
I'd sooner see things change than revert to the status quo but look at fucking DC that huge pile of shit, reverted to the status quo after twenty plus years of Batgirl, Green Lantern and the Flash being radically different.
Also you are right and I was mistaken about Black Widow...I don't no why you felt the need to mention you are buying more Marvel than DC, but uhhh, more power to you? Frankly I'm shocked anyone buys anything from that flaming pile of shit DC.
>>228599 I think everyone on this board is aware of my pro-axe policies so I'm super good with this.
>>228601 >I don't no why you felt the need to mention you are buying more Marvel than DC
>Jumpman, I know you have a baffling hate boner for Marvel but tone it down.
And I don't think being better than DC excuses Marvel from any criticism I've given the company. But you do bring up a good point about the New 52 actually erasing most of the progressive work seen in the DCU. New 52 has done some good by pushing gay characters like Batwoman and Alan Scott, along with introducing a transgendered character in Batgirl. However, it also removed formerly important characters of different body types, races, sexual orientation.
>>228605 Ahh, my bad, I meant the film end of marvel which you seem particularly upset with, not the comics.
And no, I'm not excusing Marvel from anyone the basis of DC's being shit.
BTW The New52 has done NOTHING to be progressive and EVERYTHING to be as regressive as possible.
Alan Scott's son Obsidian was a prominent gay character and he was erased from continuity when his father was baffling made gay and shoved into Earth-two ensure he didn't gay anything up, Batwomen was prominent well before the new52 and it's creative team was ripped to shreds for their ending on a gay marriage note which was rewritten and then ludicrously turned into a war on all marriage forever in DC and any demographic that had to go to Batgirl, one of the worst series of the New52, to see representation has my sympathies.
>>228619 Ew Dethlock got his shitty Agents of SHIELD look going. I'm fine with Captain Falcon since next ot Bucky he's the closest Sidekick to Cap. Still would like to know who this Thor is. I take it she's a mortal with an identity to protect since she's got the same mask deal as Eric Masterson had. Good golly she's stacked. Which Ant-man is this?
>>228619 Man, the Captain Falcon costume is so ugly. Even the NOW costume is essentially just the classic one with extra lines. It still keeps the same basic color scheme. This has big patches of white and gray breaking things up. Also lol at all the red dominating the image. I guess Pichelli has been taking tips from the Distinguished Competition.
>>228907 Mutants are a plot-cancer on the marvel universe. They should be in their own setting, otherwise they are just dragging everyone else down and making them look stupid when they force their subplot of hamhanded racism into the shared universe.
>>228935 They usually are kept away in their own space since when crossed Logan and other are treated just like everyone else and its downright comical.
>>228941 What period? I mean I agree if all their shit goes down before an event that appears to be a Mutant Right Act that Disk Wars Alludes to. But yea all the Mutant vs Brotherhood and such things go down before a set point in time when Mutants were given equal protection or whatever.
>>228906 This actually was once explained by Henry Peter Gyrich. Superheroes like Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four or Cap America are god's gift to humanity, one-shot kind of deals that cannot really be replicated.
But Mutants? They are natural, everybody can be one and worse, one day they may replace us. They are the enemy within, an idea that easily makes people paranoid.
Yes, it's stupid, but that's exactly how bigots think.
Put all the sexist/misogynistic bullshit aside for a moment.
That's just bad art all around. Her face/head alone looks awful, her neck/shoulders look fucked up as a result, and the overall anatomy screams ‘this artist prefers style before substance’. Looking at that pic makes me want to stab something – that's how awful it looks.
Well this happened. He defended the artist of the art in question at the moment and got in a bickering match with Jill Pantozzi, head of themarysue.com and now he's out. Crud.
>>229558 He wasn't fired, although he probably got chewed out by Marvel for the way he defended the publisher yesterday. Doesn't matter to /co/, as they'll say it's another reason to hate women.
>>229508 >Spiderwoman is a shitty character to start with. No she isn't, she just got shelved and then turned into Madame Web for no justifiable reason.
Unless you mean Jessica Drew, in which case, yeah, she does stink pretty bad.
Mediocre writer gets reprimanded for angrily defending a washed-out porn artist that nobody in the US knows, due a shitty variant cover that really isn't different from hundreds of similar T&A artworks, of a character that pretty much is the "ass girl" for Marvel and no pretending from the publisher and the readers can change that.
I am not taking any sides here, just being fascinated how such a chain of irrelevancy and mediocrity, can cause any sort of controversy.
Whoa hang on a second. I just read that article, and the regular penciled for this series is Land? Man, they really just don't want this series to give them good press do they.
Anyone know if Kamala Ms Marvel is any good? I want to like it but a lot of the stuff I've read about it so far makes me cringe, like them using the retarded Doge meme, references to fanfic, and everything involving Wolverine. The art looks cute though. Hopefully that stuff is more of a Tina from Bob's Burgers kind of thing.
For those who can read spanish, here's an interesting report about the whole Spiderwoman cover thing from the perspective of an spaniard comic blog. http://brainstomping.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/manara-contra-el-puritanismo-de-tumblr-spiderwoman-tiene-nueva-serie-y-a-nadie-parece-importarle/
Although, the google trasnlate version isn't as bad as you could expect. Not perfect but better than nothing. https://translate.google.co.cr/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbrainstomping.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F08%2F25%2Fmanara-contra-el-puritanismo-de-tumblr-spiderwoman-tiene-nueva-serie-y-a-nadie-parece-importarle%2F&edit-text=
...Ok, so Peter Parker being dead is fine and dandy, but the idea of him meeting his alternate universe daughter is so difficult they decided to use a rule 63 Peter for the cartoon instead? We're never getting animated Mayday are we.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/08/28/all-new-ghost-rider-to-join-all-new-ultimates-in-cancellation-with-12/ >All-New Ultimates and All New Ghost Rider will end in #12
I must say, I find that variant cover ten times more awful than the Manara variant on Spider Woman's book. The head, upper body, and lower body look liek they belong to three different persons.
>>229895 They are making Nick Fury take over for The Watcher so Nick Fury Jr AKA Samuel L Jackson can become the Nick Fury of 616 in order to beter follow the movie universe.
Hell I don't know, but that part about The Watcher being killed off and Nick Fury taking over his gig should be true, wasn't The Watcher part of an entire species of his kind?
>>229907 I care less for the mary sue and more for the terrible character assassination for Felicia
> I MUST DESTROY YOU PETER FOR PUTTING ME IN PRISION > Uh? > YES, NOW THE CRIMINALS DONT RESPECT ME, THE SAME CRIMINALS YOU ALSO PUT IN PRISION SEVERAL TIMES > That wasn't even me, you know > I KNOW, AND I DONT CARE
>>230016 Can she get swapped out in 616 as Spock forms up the Spider Army. Wonder how Peter would handle it. Part of me thinks of it like how Spider-MJ hooked up with Sunfire in that one eXiles. His Gwen is gone, Her Peter pretty much is as well.
>>230021 actually with the way Peter acts and their near constant regression of his character it's hard to remember that he is actually over thirty. Okay nix that then.
>>230063 Sweet. Gerard Way has a thing for embracing the weird of cape comics without going edgy or DECONTRUCTSHAN, not for nothing some call him Morrison-lite. This could be very cool.
>>230368 X-Men comics still exist because they sell, unlike the Fantastic Four comics (which made the decision to kill it quite easy for Disney/Marvel). I find that part quite funny, considering all the whining from comic fans about the new Fantastic Four movie being different, although the only real change that's been confirmed is Johnny Storm as an African American. Everything else has been made up B.S., like it being a found footage film.
Anyway, when the Fox film ends up being a success, expect Marvel to borrow some of those elements for its comic book portrayals and maybe try another reboot.
>>230370 We will see on that one. A Three Month production makes people very skeptical. How about we just have Val and Doom comic. I'd get much joy out of watching Doom raise her and her tempering his fanatical nature.
They bounce off each other quite well in their current form.
>>230371 Or just make Doom and Iron Man villain. I forgot what I watched (I think it was the Iron Man animated DTV), but one writer talked about how Doom fit better in Iron Man's world, than Fantastic Four's. Or, better than the Mandarin as Tony's arch nemesis.
>>230522 Fantastic Four and X-Men are kill because Marvel Studios can't profit off of them
Granted, the word "mutant" will likely just change to "inhuman" or whatever Marvel is trying pass them off now.
Spider-Man is spared from all of this, because Marvel still has merchandising rights to the character. Funny and sad that, once again, it comes down to toy sales.
>>230531 Aren't they in talks to get more of the rights back because Sony doesn't know if their film idea will work. Or Because Sony is kinda a leaky boat as a company right now.
>>230531 >Fantastic Four and X-Men are kill because Marvel Studios can't profit off of them
They co-own the limited corporations that hold the Movie IPs. While they do not get 100% of the profits from the movies, Marvel still does reap the benefits of those movies and their brands doing well.
I find it hilarious that you're lecturing people not to believe everything they read on /co/ and /v/ when you are also spreading misinformation.
>>230559 >They co-own the limited corporations that hold the Movie IPs. While they do not get 100% of the profits from the movies, Marvel still does reap the benefits of those movies and their brands doing well.
The point was that Fox gets money from future X-Men and Fantastic Four films than Marvel Comics does. But with Sony, Marvel gets merchandising sales:
>"To that end, we recently completed a transaction with Sony Pictures to simplify our relationship. And then in the deal, we purchased Sony Pictures' participation in Spiderman merchandising, while at the same time, Sony Pictures purchased from us our participation in Spiderman films. This transaction will allow us to control and fully benefit from all Spiderman merchandising activity, while Sony will continue to produce and distribute Spiderman films. We won't be specific about the economics of this 2-way transaction, but we expect it will drive attractive returns for Disney."
Despite all the fanboy whining, neither are really interested in breaking that agreement.
Did I simplify the info? Yes. But it's not exactly that false reporting of "OMG! Sony is going bankrupt and has to sell Spider-Man to Marvel to stay afloat" shit flying around right now.
>Illustrated by Adi Granov, the image is presented with the cover treatment Marvel used for its "Civil War" event, and all three heroes are from that era as well. Aside from the "Civil War" logo, the only other text is a vague date of SUMMER 2015 and, in the email accompanying the image.
>>230593 Oh my god please no. Civil War was great in the moment and definitely iconic, but ffs don't bring it back. What purpose could that possibly serve?
although maybe we'll get some more delicious granov art
>>425047 Sucked when a Captain Carter showed up in the Doctor Strange movie just to be jobbed off by possessed Witch along with the rest of the alternate universe group of supers.
Really hate that, when writers bring in alternate universe heroes (or sometimes even just a random team of heroes from another non-American nation that have never shown up before) all just so they can randomly kill them off for cheap heat. Since they can't kill off the 'real' ones.
>>444090 My primary beef with Captain Carter is that we'll most definitely never get Brian Braddock/Captain Britain because so many people would get confused.
>>444153 Who knows? They will keep the MCU going LONG after they run the thing into the fucking ground. Maybe in their desperation to keep it fuelled with new characters they will eventually get around to him.