/baw/ - General Discussion

>>428790
Man that fucking sucks.

>>428790
Sauce?

What is there on imgur worth saving?

>>428799
Alot of wiki's or people who use reference images for stuff online are gonna be fucked.

>>428800
You are saying there are NSFW wikis specifically relying on imgur? I can see how that would work if the wikis don't allow for hosting adult content.

still, it's the same story as always, if you host your stuff on free platforms, you end up getting fucked.

any imgur links on here?, they might be worth saving you know?

>>428919
Not much worth saving beyond some old porn.

Speaking of Internet things going away, heard talk of things related to Reddit closing down?

First thought they were talking about the thing itself but then it seems to be more apps related to said website. No idea what this actually means in effect.

>>429190
I believe the app was shit for anyone with bad vision, and no one at Reddit HQ cared.

There's a big protest on reddit over it where in response multiple reddits (would you call them boards?) have went on a blackout and made themselves private and unable to be viewed.

>>429190
>>429219
Many subreddits (their equivalent of boards) voluntarily went private temporarily, in protest of reddit making the API cost a HUEG amount of money, similarly to twitter. This ruins 3rd party apps, which has major impacts for accessibility like Twister said, but also including tools that help moderation and ones that allow you to use the site with no damn ads.

Of course, since reddit is a unprofitable venture capitalist project which doesn't care about its user-base or thousands of volunteer staff mods as much as quick money grabs, they basically said "we don't care". Because lots of these communities have no idea how collective actions works (or maybe are just timid) most only did a 48h protest, so of course reddit will just try and just cop the hit. It doesn't help that the CEO and co-founder spez did an extremely out-of-touch Q&A, intensifying dissent.

I don't use reddit but I use one of the places that a few thousand just landed in.... fun times -_-

>>429225
Okay, but, what does that actually achieve, making your subreddit private?

>>429229
Temporary (possibly significant, since some large subreddits participated) loss of traffic to reddit.com, therefore decrease in ad revenue.
Encouraging users to find alternative sites.
Widespread reputational damage to reddit.com

I'm not saying the protests will achieve their goal, lol no if they stop at this, but the protest is not trivial.
There is also increased discussion of indefinite blackout.
>300+ subs have already announced that they are in it for the long haul, prepared to remain private or otherwise inaccessible indefinitely until Reddit provides an adequate solution. These include powerhouses like:
> /r/aww (34.1m)
> /r/music (32.3m)
> /r/videos (26.6m)
> /r/futurology (18.7m)

I don't know much about how stocks work, or reddit's situation there since they filed for confidentiality or something, but mere reputation may have powerful financial implications.

Also, a "nice work, idiots" to all the mods coordinating action against reddit on a subreddit.

Of talk regarding content signs being scrubbed or locked down, seems like Twitter is also going further down that road like the websites mentioned in the thread.
From the mouth of the devil himself-

>To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:

>Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
>Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
>New unverified accounts to 300/day

Twitter might very well die through his incompetence and penny-pinching.
Be that a bad thing, well, opinions might differ on that point.

>>429452
It's almost like they don't want their users to read the posts being made.

>>429452
This is so simple, it's funny. Servers cost money, and in the past Twitter owners just assumed it will work out somehow.

>>429458
Musk is such a stupid fuck.
Wasn't he originally pretending to buy twitter "as a prank" but then he got so far through the process the courts forced him to actually go through with it.

>>429460
He bought it to get rid of the glowies and/or to have a huge communications platform all of his own. Unfortunately this meant that the glowies pulled all the funding, so now he has to keep it together with duct tape, while all of the worlds media is turning on him.

>>429461
>He bought it to get rid of the glowies
Are you retarded, are you really trying to hold up Elon Musk as idealistic crusader of the common man? Bastion of truth and transparency?

He's just another egotistical CEO who throws money at technology while having no technical knowledge or common sense and for a long time tricked the public into thinking he himself was some sort of engineer or man or merit beyond the wealth he inherited from his parents.

>>429462
Nah, if he was just another CEO, you wouldn't even know his name beyond "dude that runs company x". Musk is basically the average /pol/ shitposter crossed with a bored billionaire.

Also you are really easily jumping into extreme conclusions at the drop of the hat, it's getting tiring.

>>429463
>Musk is basically the average /pol/ shitposter
Musk is not brown enough to post on /pol/

>>429464
You are the /pol/ expert, I guess.

>>429480
Its an actually slightly amusing pebblethrow comic, what about it makes you so upset?

>>429485
Why are you spazzing out so much now?
Somehow talk of twitter is so much worse than the talk of reddit that preceded it?

>>429486
what are you talking about

it looks like you're just trying to pick fights here.

>>429496
Why the endless sages? Its less than pointless on a ghosttown board such as this with no traffic.

>>429497
>Why the endless sages?
Would you prefer if he straight up said "fuck you"?

>>429506
It would certainly be more honest and less snide.

>>429507
well okay, in that case have a fuck you, I guess?

>>429522
>"well okay, in that case have a fuck you, I guess?"
Own up to it you fool, don't halfass things and be wishy-washy.
>"In that case, fuck you!"

>>429452
Things are altering again with Twitter, in that technically you don't need to be logged-in to view individual tweets but you can't view replies or profiles etc.

While browsing over the nonsense had a thought.
Previously just considered it issue with like artists or developers who use the social media to get their product out into the public eye but also governments might be personally affected too.
In that there are governments who use it as a public utility to make easy announcements that require spreading to the public, since its more likely to be seen nowadays than a radio or tv broadcast.

Still not all that serious an issue but a bigger deal than say not being able to follow the profile of your favourite extremely niche hentai artist to see their new works.

>>429497
>Its less than pointless
lol no it isn't.

>>429506
This kid is just being an angsty /pol/ teen desperately begging to flame on a "ghosttown board with no traffic", so change that to a "fuck off" instead of a "fuck you". Not sure why they don't just return to 4chan where this behaviour would fit right in, instead of being a lame baby over here.

>>429533
You're obsessed with /pol/ and go around accusing multiple people of being from there whenever they say anything you don't like, such as the person who mentioned transsexuals negatively in the fetish thread.

>>429531
>Previously just considered it issue with like artists or developers who use the social media to get their product out into the public eye but also governments might be personally affected too.In that there are governments who use it as a public utility to make easy announcements that require spreading to the public, since its more likely to be seen nowadays than a radio or tv broadcast.

If you like conspiracies, you might want to notice that it went down exactly as the riots in France started. I know the two are unrelated, but then, I'm not a conspiracy nut.

What would people flock to if Twitter went away, there's other internet places like it but barely even use twitter itself so don't know much about them.
Would Tumblr get a resurgence as an effect of it, heard they rolled back some of the stuff that drove away its userbase in the first place.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/15/business/twitter-cash-flow-elon-musk/index.html

>>429703
https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-sues-wachtell-law-firm-recoup-fees-twitter-buyout-2023-07-07/
https://fortune.com/2023/07/07/elon-musk-sues-law-firm-that-led-fight-to-make-him-complete-twitter-takeover-and-charged-90-million/

What's the point of this lawsuit.
Even if Musk manages to get this lawyers office to pay him 90 million it won't actually patch the financial hole that twitter is for him, and that's if he were to win.

>>429806
The point is to not let {them} get away with it all the time.

>>430120
That's just a bitter pill to swallow. Deep red is its colour. Media needs server space, AND NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, server space is NOT unlimited.

>>430120
oh no, the kids on social media are realizing that content from the net is not eternal and needs to be archived or else it will be gone.

>>429626
Something that I've noticed is internet users usually can stand a lot of bullshit, just look at 4chan and how they misstreats their userbase. Problably Twitter is going to break appart for monetary issues before Elon's deliberate stupidity.

>>430138
Possibly his stupid ideas in trying to fix the monetary issues might hasten the process even more.

>>430147
Sure but what I mean people won't move because of the post limits. It's was already showed when both Mastodon and Threads couldn't keep the users after the massive influx of refugees. They basically went back to Twitter after noticing they won't have neither the same stream of content nor same features.

Big tech in general is bleeding, YouTube is having a similar problem of not being able to keep their infraestructure afloat because people don't give a shit abouy ads anymore. They are taking down dead accounts and they have been teasing an anti ad blocker system for a while now.

>>430148
>YouTube is having a similar problem of not being able to keep their infraestructure afloat

Youtube always had that problem, it's why they got sold to Google in the first place.

you are right in that people usually stick to sinking ships because they are the ones with the most content. It's why both Twitter and 4chan are still huge, despite technologically superior successors existing.

>>430138
>>430147
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/18/musk-says-twitter-now-x-is-moving-to-monthly-subscriptions.html

>>430354
Retard at the helm.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-considering-taking-twitter-x-out-of-europe-dsa-2023-10?r=US&IR=T

>>430540
three things to consider:
- this is according to someone who knows Elon, not Elon himself, but even if it really comes from Elon:
- it is a knee-jerk reaction to the new EU law that persecutes internet sites that don't take down "problematic content". Problematic content being whatever the EU decides to be problematic. Also keep in mind that plus4chan is hosted in the EU, so technically this site could get into legal problems if you said something (oh no!) racist or (shock!) antisemitic.
- there are already websites that simply geoblock all of Europe because of the dump EU GDPR laws. Yahoo Japan being the biggest one that comes to mind, but I also recall seeing some US news sites.

We are at the point where the Internet stops being "free information" and "world-wide" web, and starts becoming increasingly regulated and cut up to only regionally available sections. So the only retards at the helm are those making these completely fucking dumb laws in the EU.

Elon does a lot of dumb shit but this one is not on him.

>>430542
I love that we have smart posters here.

>>431842
>>431844
I'd say this is more closer to when YouTube removed stars and the dislike down the line, so people would engage with content pasively instead of being critical of it. I think that's the simplest reason I can come up with.

>>431844
This is a good writeup, and I like the explanation that it got removed because people started getting doxxed for liking the wrong thing.

>>431846
I highly doubt they care about it and nevertheless if you want to dox someone and chose targets, there are easier ways than looking for whatever they liked on Twitter.

>>431847
There have already been cases where famous people got called out for things they liked on twitter (iirc it happened specifically with Musk). So this is actually a very good reason for why they'd hide likes.

>>431848
Why are you posting support of something on a public forum if you aren't willing to stand by it.

>>431849
Because there's a difference between finding something funny (an impulse action) and making a political statement (something you are willing to risk your livelihood for). Liking something on twitter is so easy that it should definitely count as the former, yet people treat it as the former.

>>431850
Yeah, treat it like the former, because then people might start to become less braindead in regards to social media. They might actually take a moment to think instead of just mindlessly consuming.

>>431849
I've done things in person I'm not willing to stand by. I stand by >>431850

>>431850
There's a difference between you IRL and you as an internet user, if you are willing to link the first one with your futa loli fetish and liking for maga and trans harrasement groups then you should be willing to either stand by it and stand the reactions
This is something a lot of people doesn't seem to understand.
>>431848
One thing is getting called out and getting doxed is something different.

>>432387
Wow, this is hard to process. Correct me if I'm wrong
>Russian army uses Discord as backend for their drones
>roskomnadzor bans Discord
>Suddenly, the entire float of Russian drones can't stream because they don't have a backend to use
I have a lot of questions. First why the fuck are they using fucking Discord as server? why nobody on discord notice it? and most importantly, is RKN really that incompetent they didn't realise they just blocked a service uswd by their army?

>>432390
Do remember stories of russian soldiers early-on resorting to telegram to call on support or artillery because the proper methods of military communicaition had broken down.
As for Discord getting banned maybe the government is more afraid of subversive thoughts/movements spreading inside the nation than anything else.

>>431936
>This is something a lot of people doesn't seem to understand.
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>>432413
If your art is available on the internet then by definition you can't do fuck all from it being available to AI gathering purposes, copying, redistributing, curating, collecting, processing, adapting, modifying, publishing, transmitting, displaying, and all the other crap you list on that screenshot.

>>432413
I was talking to some friends who are very into AI and they told me something very funny. All AI models look the same because they pretty much use the same data, even if you go around internet scrapping data, the fact that AI generared content is out there means there's a high chance your corpus would be filled with stuff generated by previous modeld, therefore making it impossible to build something better or different compared to previous models. The harder you push to make bigger and better models, the harder it gets to progress.
>>432414
Sure, everybody knows that, but by doing that they are avoiding legal issues when using their data to train AI models.

>>432413
Nice to know, when I get back into drawing, I won't be posting anything there.