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No.408184
ISLAMIC TERROR IN FRANCE: TUNISIAN MIGRANT RAMS TRUCK INTO CROWD
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Crowd celebrating Bastille day was rammed by a truck, killing more than eighty and wounding a hundred and fifty more.

First thread resurrect.
No.408187
Anonymous
Replies:>>408194
Petition to "Formally recognize Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization" reaches threshold a month early.

https://www.rt.com/usa/350737-petition-terrorist-black-lives-matter/

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organization
No.408189
Anonymous
I'm really blown away by this petition.
No.408191
Anonymous
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Cleveland Police Given Order to "Stand Down" at RNC
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/report-cleveland-police-given-stand-order-will-allow-protesters-terrorize-republicans-city/
Although the radical left has days of protests planned and has a history of protests, the Cleveland police has issued a stand down order to officers, I can exclusively report.
Remember when thugs from the left attacked Trump supporters at his San Jose rally? The San Jose mayor and police chief claimed it would have been “too dangerous” for officers to do their jobs by defending Trump supporters.
That same “logic” is being applied by Cleveland officials, who have given up on even trying to control the radical left.
If you’re attending the RNC, do not travel alone. Be street smart and travel in groups.
Police will not help you.
No.408193
Anonymous
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[b]Media refuses to report on Putin warning: "West is Provoking World War"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3580718/Putin-issues-warning-West-Nato-double-standards-Russia-displays-military-Victory-Day-parade.html
No.408194
Anonymous
Replies:>>408198
>>408187
Russia was supposed to have declared BLM a terrorist operation, and banned their sponsor George Soros from the country.
No.408198
Anonymous
Replies:>>408199
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>>408194
Wrong on both, but kind of more right on the second. Russia banned Soros charities that fund socially destabilizing movements, but so far the government doesn't seem to know BLM exists yet (at least not at the Duma level).

Russia bans two Soros foundations from disbursing grants
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/russia-bans-two-george-soros-foundations-from-giving-grants
It was found that the activity of the Open Society Foundations and the Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation represents a threat to the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation and the security of the state.
No.408199
Anonymous
>>408198
More like right on both.

Soros is funding BLM through those "charities", by banning them they basically ban BLM.

Although DeRay Mckesson, a BLM leader, basically lives in houses paid for by Soros so in some ways the funding can't be cut without legitimately calling them what they are and banning them from the country.
No.408202
Anonymous
>>408184

wonder if obama will call for stricter regulations of automotive vehicles

i think i said this the last thread
No.408206
Anonymous
Turkish military exercises constitutional duty and removes Erdrogan for violation of secular clause.
Only surprise is they waited this long.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara
No.408207
Alpharius
Replies:>>408208
>>408206
Secular violation, eh? Hopefully they remember to step down after all these shenanigans. Yeah, right.
No.408208
Anonymous
>>408206
this is how turkey stopped being an imperialistic islamic state in the first place, good for them.

>>408207
eh, small price to pay.

current leader wants to be the next sultan or caliph, he's been quietly ethnically cleansing minorities, funding terrorism, and importing extremist preachers from across the world.

turkey hdi fell ten points when he became prime minister, and another five when he took office as president.

if turkey wants to remain civilized this motherufker needs to go.
No.408210
Anonymous
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Could this be Putiins retribution for the downing of that Russian jet? Erdogan recently apologized to Putin, maybe he saw it coming.
No.408213
Anonymous
Replies:>>408215
https://planefinder.net/flight/THY8456

erdogan's plane has landed at ataturk airport
No.408215
Anonymous
Replies:>>408220
>>408213
F-16 strafed the airport, but apparently erdogan got away.

currently hes doing a press briefing from a basement somewhere, and the army is storming media buildings trying to find him.
No.408216
Anonymous
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Turkish Parliament just got bombed again, this time it looks like a 1000lb bomb.
No.408220
Anonymous
Replies:>>408221
>>408215
Daily reminder Erdogan made it illegal for anyone to insult him or criticize him in any way.

Democracy won't work in the middle east because the middle east is not secular. When the majority of people do what the Imams say, democracy becomes a theocracy.

This is how Iran was made and why the Arab Spring is such a failure.
No.408221
Anonymous
>>408220
I can't believe there are people on twitter supporting this asshat. Even if he wins their twitter posts will probably be archived as Erdogan starts purging the military and throwing all opponents into a wood chipper.
No.408222
Anonymous
Erdogan is surrounded, General Secretary taken hostage.

https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754138236318916608

https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754132746495152128
No.408224
Anonymous
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coup has been predicted as "over" for the past five hours, the military is still in charge of the streets, bridges, airports and now the parliament building.
No.408225
Anonymous
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airforce is solidly anti-erdogan, they're playing a game of whackamole now trying to find him in one of his fifty palaces.
No.408227
Anonymous
General Hulusi Akar taken hostage by coup forces.
No.408228
Anonymous
Replies:>>408229
Army still holding Bosphorus bridge. Maybe trying to form Istanbul breakaway republic?
https://twitter.com/mnecirvan/status/754145049529704449
No.408229
Anonymous
>>408228
Both of the bridges are still closed. There are also soldiers in all the other cities in Turkey, which media is conveniently leaving out.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-istanbul-bridges-idUSKCN0ZV2FE?il=0

Erdogan holds pieces of Ankara, and there's a crowd in Istanbul that hasn't been put down. That's about it for the loyalists.
No.408231
Anonymous
Turkish Navy siding with coup forces.
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754149105476132865
No.408233
Anonymous
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A few soldiers on one lane on end of one bridge over the bosphor surrendered, and promptly got killed by the crowds. More surrenders are unlikely...
No.408235
Anonymous
Icelands biggest volcano may be about to erupt...
https://twitter.com/alpahufa/status/754029318964125696
No.408236
Anonymous
Replies:>>408238
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The Bosphorus has been blockaded by the navy!
No.408237
Anonymous
>>408233
Same tank in picture, pro erdogan forces want soldiers to open tank, soldiers refuse.
https://www.periscope.tv/HasdemirAhmet/1OwxWvlzXqZJQ
No.408238
Anonymous
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>>408236
Confirmed.
No.408239
Anonymous
https://twitter.com/americankippy/status/754157687877738496

f16 over ankara carrying a-t-a loads.
No.408241
Anonymous
Replies:>>408242
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>>408233
Dudes that surrendered, back when they were still alive.
No.408242
Anonymous
Replies:>>408244
>>408241

SkyNews and Turkish media looped that scene like 40 times from different angles. It was hilarious how scared they are.

So far 95% of the military is pro-coup, if even 10% remains disloyal, that's enough firepower to permanently fuck the country.
No.408243
Anonymous
NTV still showing the 30 second loop, almost half an hour later.
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No.408244
Anonymous
>>408242
Of course they loop it, why would they show the crowds tearing apart the surrendering soldiers. Kind of precludes further surrenders.
No.408245
Anonymous
Replies:>>408247
It is looking increasingly likely that 1st Tactical Air Force Command which controls the TuAF in Ankara/Istanbul is supporting the coup
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754162634023239680
No.408246
Anonymous
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>trying to blm a tank
guys...
No.408247
Anonymous
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>>408245
Yup
No.408248
Anonymous
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https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754166166944374785

Big news is all senior command structure of Army is missing: Chief of Staff, Commanders of Land Forces, Air Forces, Navy, Gendarmerie & more!
No.408249
Anonymous
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https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754171449770770432
No.408250
Anonymous
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streetfighting in ankara is pervasive.
No.408251
Anonymous
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>>408233
fucking animals
No.408252
Anonymous
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No.408253
Anonymous
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Ships leaving dock, possibly to avoid being arrested.
No.408254
Anonymous
Replies:>>408256
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yeah gj surrender to religious mob
No.408255
Anonymous
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dont worry they only throw gays off high places! ur safe!
No.408256
Anonymous
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>>408254
I smell a reaction image.
No.408264
Anonymous
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coup leaders seem to have chickened out and escaped to greece.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security-primeminister-idUSKCN0ZV2HK
remnants still active, but the majority seems to be surrendering.
surrendering never works well.
No.408265
Anonymous
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Still some fighting on the ground, anti-coup military is wearing red and white armbands so they don't get lynched.
No.408268
Anonymous
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/754263280047325184
Turkish rebel group takes chief of navy hostage.
No.408269
Anonymous
Why the hell are people including governments supporting this Daesh-backing, despotic madman Erdogan? He's violating human rights, censoring the media and being a total islamist prick in general.

Wtf?
No.408270
Anonymous
>>408269
HES DEMOCRATIC!!!!!11111zombg!!!!1one1!!
No.408271
Anonymous
Replies:>>408307
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People are already saying: "but the Nice terrorist wasn't pious. See! It has nothing to do with Islam".

Please stop.

Your good intentions towards us Muslims are only making the problem worse. This is as dangerous as saying it is *everything* to do with Islam. The Crusaders weren't pious. But they had *something* to do with Christianity, right? Right? That something was the desire impious religious peasants had for martyrdom & the religious promise of redemption that Pope Urban II gave them. Now switch out white Christians with brown Muslims and kindly cease with this bigotry of low expectations.

This has *something* to do with Islam.

Instead of aiding extremists who insist Islam today is perfect, perhaps you should aid us beleaguered reformists Muslims who are attempting to address this crisis within Islam against all the odds.

Some ‪#‎Solidarity‬, please.
No.408272
Anonymous
Replies:>>408273
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>>408269
Democracy restored.

The most useful thing about events like this is it's really easy to tell who is a basic bitch and who isn't, simply by checking out their reaction.
No.408273
Anonymous
>>408272
>Democracy restored.
Erdogan just arrested almost 4000 members of the judiciary and all serious opposition politicians.
Replies:>>408275
nvm I didnt see your spoiler text
No.408275
Anonymous
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Turkey Coup predicted 6 months ago by political commentator Sibel Edmonds.
//youtube.com/watch?v=OxvPfWkYyUoyoutube thumb

>>408274
It's ok bro.
No.408276
Anonymous
Erdogan is banning US jets from using Incirlik Air Base to bomb ISIS. It seems Turkey is moving towards open support of ISIS.

Maybe this is what the coup was supposed to stop?
No.408277
we should free female inmates because feminism!
Replies:>>408286
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/female-imprisonment-numbers-soar-amid-calls-to-free-the-majority-of-inmates-20160614-gpiy08
this is why no one supports this female supremacy movement anymore.

protip: all women have fathers, most have brothers or boyfriends, they aren't going to support your movement if youre going to hurt people they love.
No.408286
Anonymous
>>408277
sexist male scum

[/s], of course
No.408291
Anonymous
Replies:>>408296
lol hillary mad a pokemon go joke
//youtube.com/watch?v=vOF4ghVzUQIyoutube thumb
No.408295
Anonymous
Replies:>>408297
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Pogroms in Turkey are in full swing, kemalist vs islamist.
No.408296
Anonymous
>>408291
>have you kids heard of pokemon go
>you should go to the polls
What the fuck?

Meanwhile CNN cuts off reporter for telling truth on Hillary: //youtube.com/watch?v=5my7EJv42PUyoutube thumb

Clinton News Network
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>>408295
I'm really glad we supported Erdogan, the democratic leader of Turkey.

It's like most people just forget every single genocide and pogrom was "democratic" ie the majority killing minorities.
No.408298
Anonymous
Replies:>>408302
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Another BLM terrorist just shot up Batton Rouge, killed 3 police officers.
No.408302
Anonymous
>>408298

>BLM terrorist

QUICK, ROUND UP EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER USED THE PHRASE AND PUT THEM ALL IN A “HAPPY FUN-TIME CAMP” FOR RE-EDUCATION!
No.408303
Anonymous
Replies:>>408304
>>408302
Why are you so defensive about it?
No.408304
Anonymous
Replies:>>408305
>>408303

Why are you trying to paint everyone who has ever used the phrase "Black Lives Matter"/has supported the BLM movement as terrorists?
No.408305
Anonymous
Replies:>>408306
>>408304
We're not trying to do anything, the BLM movement is painting itself as terrorists.

And yeah if you still support this trash movement after they commit terrorist acts, guess what that makes you.
No.408306
Anonymous
Replies:>>408307
>>408305

By that logic, all Muslims are terrorists and all Republicans want to turn America into a Christian theocracy. I mean, if you're going to paint an entire group of people by the actions and beliefs of only the most radical members of that group...
No.408307
Anonymous
Replies:>>408309
>>408306
>By that logic, all Muslims are terrorists and all Republicans want to turn America into a Christian theocracy
Correct on both counts.

Your first true statement is mainly true because the governments of Muslim majority countries aren't bothering to fight terrorism or punish those who support terrorism in their own countries, actually punish those moderate Muslims who work AGAINST extremism. By the by, the SJWs are guilty of the same kind of repression of Muslim activists attempting to reform Islam, see >>408271

Your second true statement is true because the GOP is full of theocrats that base their politics on religion. This is why anti-establishment candidates are so popular with conservatives, why conservatives are overrepresented in "no vote" sections during every elections, why conservatives are overrepresented in votes for independent candidates, and why conservatives are working their ass off to change the GOP (tea party etc). The Republican party is a party of theocrats now, not conservatives. Most conservatives want nothing to do with the Republican party because of their obsession with religion and big government.

What's this fetish with the no true scotsman fallacy?

A unitary (not umbrella) ideological group must police its own loose cannons, otherwise the entire group is subject to criticism based on those. If your ideological group fucks up, either leave the group or work your ass off to change it. You don't get to stay in it, stick your head in the sand, and expect the group not to be criticized because you're the one "good" member of it. Hate to invoke godiwins law, but I'm pretty sure the Nazi party had a few people that never wanted to hurt anyone, it doesn't mean you get to say "hurr not all nazis".

The only thing this self-police-or-leave clause doesn't apply to is umbrella terms like "left wing" or "right wing" that have mutually exclusionary ideologies within, or to things people were born with like skin color.
No.408309
Anonymous
>>408307

>A unitary (not umbrella) ideological group must police its own loose cannons, otherwise the entire group is subject to criticism based on those.

And if the group doesn't generally have a leader or leadership group? I mean, it's not like all of the world's billion-plus Muslims answer to one or two specific leaders.
No.408313
Anonymous
Replies:>>408314
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Erdogan had a list prepared of all the people that opposed him, so far he's using the excuse of a "coup" to remove all obstacles to complete dictatorial power.

30 provincial governors
47 district governors
103 generals and some admirals.
2745 judges
3000+ soldiers
8777 Interior Ministry staff (incl. police)

>>408309
I don't think leaders are a point of issue here, it's the ideology. All billion Muslims worship from the same version of the same book in the same language with the same interpretation, which is forced on pain of fatwa (often including death).

At least Christians have the half baked excuse of using different translations, versions or interpretations of the Bible.
No.408314
Anonymous
>>408313

>All billion Muslims worship from the same version of the same book in the same language with the same interpretation, which is forced on pain of fatwa (often including death).

All billion-plus Muslims do not follow the Qu’ran down to the letter. I know you're about to break out that "Muslims polled on what they believe" infographic, but you can save it for someone else - if all of the world's Muslims followed their beliefs to the letter on a daily basis, we'd be in the middle of an actual world war with military actions happening within countries that aren’t Muslim theocracies but have sizeable Muslim populations. Last I checked, the American military isn't dronebombing mosques within the United States every hour on the hour, so I don't believe we're at war with all of the world's Muslims.

Yes, there are some tenets of Islam that are questionable at best, and those deserve criticism. But the same could be said of all religions, including every known variant of Christianity. If you're willing to excuse the failings of Christianity while yelling about "the ragheads" all the live-long day, you're a hypocrite. And by the same token, if you're willing to whine about the BLM movement's villainizing of police while excusing situations like Ferguson (where the police preyed on the poor, largely black population as a way of generating revenue), you're a hypocrite. And it's just the same for the inverse of those situations. I'm willing to admit there are people within the BLM movement who are far too quick to demonize (and call for violence against) police, but I'm also willing to admit that policing in this country needs reforms - and that we also need to instill some changes within society as a whole. We, the general populace, put police into impossible situations where we ask them to police hellish communities - communities created by policies that enforce poverty and segregation, regardless of whether they were meant to do that - and keep that hell from spilling into surrounding areas. We ask them to police with as little bias as possible, then force them into policing cities in a way that victimizes citizens (Ferguson policing was often carried out as a revenue generator). Society in general creates untenable situations, then asks the police to be Perfect Angels as they try to keep a nightmare from spreading. Society has to take part of the blame for creating situations like Ferguson, and until that happens, more Fergusons will be created.

Also, I thought you might like to see this story: http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article90247307.html
No.408317
Anonymous
Replies:>>408318
>>408314
>All billion-plus Muslims do not follow the Qu’ran down to the letter.
Then it's down to how much of a Muslim a muslim actually is. Those who are less muslim are moderate, those who are more muslim are terrorists. Ergo "muslim" is still a problem.

>we'd be in the middle of an actual world war with military actions happening within countries that aren’t Muslim theocracies but have sizeable Muslim populations.
Um... we are... good job proving his point.

>But the same could be said of all religions, including every known variant of Christianity.
This exact same phrase gets repeated so often I'm starting to wonder if people that use it aren't in fact an extant species of parrots masquerading as humans.

Let me explain this in small bites of information:
There is no buddhist sutra that calls for the murder of unbelievers.
The christian bible does not have a chapter describing how to how to invade and genocide a group of people.
The confucian five classics don't spend any time talking about how to enslave and rape the women of conquered peoples.
No other religion has been spread through as much violence as Islam.
No other religion maintains the level of violent preachings in 2016.
Islam is not comparable to any other religion on the issue of violence.
Islam is bar none the worst religion in the world when it comes to violent preachings, by a HUGE margin.

The second worst religious texts would have to be a tiny portion of Hindu preachings on Shiva, which is basically their equivalent of Satan. And even then it is a distant second to Islam unless the Aghori are counted, a bunch of fucking cannibals.

If a mainstream religion is compared to all other religions, and the closest comparative point are satanic cannibals from another religion, then maybe this first religion has a fucking problem.
No.408318
Anonymous
Replies:>>408320
>>408317

>Then it's down to how much of a Muslim a muslim actually is.

So, what, we institute "real Muslim" tests, kill anyone who passes, and forcibly convert anyone who fails to another religion? I know you're itching to criticize Islam every chance you get, but you're not explicitly presenting any solution to "the Muslim problem", and any implied solution calls for either violence or forced religious conversion (which are both troublesome "solutions" in their own right). Do you really believe the world needs to either kill or convert every living Muslim - and if not, what do you propose as a non-violent, non-theocratic solution to "the Muslim problem"?
No.408320
Anonymous
Replies:>>408321
>>408318
>you're not explicitly presenting any solution to "the Muslim problem"
Secular government and a reform of the religious system.

The fact that you jumped to genocide as a solution is pretty fucking funny. Are you a Muslim?
No.408321
Anonymous
Replies:>>408324
>>408320

No, but you’re proposing a "solution" to a "problem" concerning over a billion people who don't all live in countries like Iran. How do you propose solving "the Muslim problem" in re: American Muslims?
No.408324
Anonymous
>>408321
The only problems with Muslims in America are recent immigrants that haven't integrated.
Go past fourth or fifth generation American Muslims and they're the model other Muslims around the world should copy, secular system + reformed religion.
If American Muslims are the worst example you can think of, you need to think harder.
No.408326
Anonymous
>>408324

But by your own admission, you believe Islam to be a religion of violence and destruction, and all followers of Islam - all billion-plus Muslims worldwide - believe in the same religious tenets. Why do American Muslims escape the same criticism as Muslims in other countries, Islamic or otherwise? Why do American Muslims not have to face the same scrutiny for their Islamic beliefs as a Muslim living in, say, Britain or Iran? Why are American Muslims somehow now part of "the Muslim problem"?
No.408327
Anonymous
>>408326

>not part of...
No.408328
Anonymous
Replies:>>408329
>>408326
American muslims aren't a part of the problem because they aren't the ones preventing reform or engaging in violence. Before violent preachings can be addressed first we need to make it POSSIBLE for them to be addressed without the critics being killed. America has that because America is secular.

Muslims in America aren't living in a theocracy that allows the worst of the religion to come forth. Introduce this same secularism across the Muslim world and 90% of the problem will be solved.
No.408329
Anonymous
Replies:>>408330
>>408328

>Muslims in America aren't living in a theocracy that allows the worst of the religion to come forth.

Neither are British Muslims, but I don't see you refusing to call them part of "the Muslim problem".
No.408330
Anonymous
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>>408329
See >>408324
>The only problems with Muslims in America are recent immigrants that haven't integrated.
Goldfish memory guy.
No.408331
Anonymous
Replies:>>408332
>>408330


So let me get this straight: despite the earlier assertion that all Muslims around the world believe in the exact same tenets as laid out in the Qu'ran, Muslims who have integrated are somehow no longer a danger, even though they're supposed to believe in the exact same things as Muslims who haven't?

...what
No.408332
Anonymous
Replies:>>408341
>>408331
Do you understand the difference between thinking a group of people is a bunch of subhuman kaffirs vs acting on that thought to subjugate and genocide that group of people?

Because the first, while vile, has never hurt anyone ever.
No.408337
Anonymous
Terrorists still kill very few people annually, its not really a problem.
No.408338
Anonymous
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>>408337
And by acknowledging them, we increase the chance of them becoming significant.
No.408339
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>>408338
I agree. We should just close all the ports, halt all in-coming immigration and just ignore all the bad stuff until it goes away.
No.408341
Anonymous
>>408332

>Do you understand the difference between thinking a group of people is a bunch of subhuman kaffirs vs acting on that thought to subjugate and genocide that group of people?

Yes. I mean, after all, I think the first thing about most Republican politicians.
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Anonymous
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>>408302
Well there's a little fact that your entire movement is based on a fucking lie.

>>408309
I don't see what leaders have to do with this. If leaders were involved, we'd punish them first no?
No.408344
Anonymous
Infants prefer toys typed to their gender, says study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160715114739.htm
It's almost like gender isn't a social construct.
No.408345
Anonymous
Replies:>>408346
>>408342

>your entire movement is based on a fucking lie

Statistically, yes, police killed more white people than black people. But if you take into account the percentage of the American population that each of those demographics take up, white people are statistically less likely to face police violence than black people. Context matters more than you think it does.
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Anonymous
Replies:>>408347
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>>408345
Cancelled out by the fact that the percentage of those demographics engaging in criminal behavior, interacting with police, and straight up shooting at the police is completely skewed as well. Complete context matters more than digging just deep enough to get the partial context that confirms your bias.
No.408347
Anonymous
Replies:>>408354
>>408346

>the percentage of those demographics engaging in criminal behavior, interacting with police, and straight up shooting at the police is completely skewed as well

It's almost as if things like poverty and police brutality and the intersection of those two things (see: Ferguson) might play a role in creating those crime rates, but hey, why let that get in the way of you thinking that black people are just a bunch of wild apes by the very nature of their existence, hmm?
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Replies:>>408355
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>>408347
Actually it has nothing to do with race at all, the only consistent track with crime is IQ, which is affected by education.

Blacks in America and Africa just happen to have poorer educational rates.

This is made plain by places in the world like Europe and Japan, where (non-immigrant) black demographics commit the same rate of crime and have the same educational standard as local populations.

>black people are just a bunch of wild apes
Jesus christ you're racist.
No.408355
Anonymous
>>408354

Hey, you're the one implying that black people are naturally criminalistic (and naturally dumber than non-blacks), not me. I'm just not using the dogwhistles that you people use to describe your beliefs.
No.408356
Anonymous
Replies:>>408367
>>408355
No I'm not dude, that's YOU.

I'm saying they're more criminalistic because of repairable circumstances, you're the one saying they're naturally more criminalistic.

What the fuck is this?!?!?!
>black people are just a bunch of wild apes
Where did this wild apes thing come from, who else in the thread even suggested anything like it.
No.408359
Anonymous
>>408355
>I'm just not using the dogwhistles that you people use to describe your beliefs.
You're blatantly racist then.
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Anonymous
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So a muslims went on a stabbing spree in france because women weren't covered enough, and another went on a hacking (as in axe) spree in germany because he wanted to put fear into the hearts of germans. Both migrants.

That's just fantastic. Lets ignore the ideology that drove them, or the utter lack of borders that let them come here, I'm sure the problem will solve itself eventually when we all convert to Islam and start beating our wives.
No.408362
Anonymous
>>408360
>and start beating our wives.
Sounds like your ideal world to me. Not sure what you're mad about.
No.408363
Anonymous
Replies:>>408364
>>408360
>live in non-EU country
problem solved

not britain either
No.408364
Anonymous
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>>408363
Why would terrorism affect anyones life decisions in the west. When we talk about immigration its about 1mil+ peoples lives and where majority of those lives would be in danger in the originating country. Terrorism kills <200 people a year in the west. If you were to halt all immigration youd doom tens of thousands of people to die or live under oppressive rule.
No.408366
Anonymous
>>408364
If that was a direct question to me, I was the one agreeing with >>408337
No.408367
Anonymous
>>408356

>I'm saying they're more criminalistic because of repairable circumstances

Where? I don't see you doing anything but trotting out charts about crime rates and low IQs and making sweeping proclamations about criminality and IQ and whatnot. I didn't see you post a goddamned thing about "reparable circumstances". I saw you arguing, regardless of whether you meant to, that black people were naturally criminal, and their naturally lower IQ is the main factor behind that. Now, if you want to argue otherwise, put in the effort to use words and images that actually express the ideas you want to express. But don't get mad when I couch your argument in terms that the KKK would use - especially when you're making arguments that the KKK would use.
No.408369
Anonymous
Replies:>>408371
>>408367
>Where?
>next sentence in his own post tells where
lol
He said the IQ (and crime) is repairable with better education.

You're dumb, you're racist and you suck.
No.408370
Anonymous
>>408364
>its about 1mil+ peoples lives and where majority of those lives would be in danger in the originating country.
So ~500,000 genuinely in danger people, and ~500,000 terrorists or free money migrants.

Why would you object to having systems in place to check which is which, making sure the refugees get help instead of the terrorists?

Are you a fucking terrorist mate.
No.408371
Anonymous
Replies:>>408379
>>408369

One thing. One. He didn't say anything about poverty, systemic abuse by police and the resulting loss of trust between citizens and police, racist policies like redlining, and any other factor that could - and does - contribute to the creation of crime. "Making black people smarter" isn't the catch-all solution to stopping crime.
No.408373
Anonymous
Replies:>>408374
BLM attacks UK, the first country ever to ban slavery, and the first country ever to fight on behalf of slaves.

>A police officer was stabbed and four other PCs were injured after a water fight in central London spiralled out of control in the city's worst bout of violence since the 2011 riots.

>At least three members of the public were also injured last night, with reports indicating at least one was stabbed in the chest, as police tried to disperse a huge water fight in Hyde Park during which rioters chanted 'Black Lives Matter'.

>Police say around 4,000 revellers descended on the central London park to soak up the sun yesterday on what was hottest day of the year so far.

>Now, the Metropolitan Police has announced it has launched an investigation into the disorder which was apparently sparked after officers prevented members of the crowd from setting up a sound system.

>Hundreds of people have taken to social media to condemn the youths for using the Black Lives Matter slogan while carrying out mindless acts of violence. Police confirmed the event was not linked to the movement.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3698316/Police-officer-stabbed-struck-bottle-spontaneous-Hyde-Park-water-fight-descends-blade-chaos-two-revellers-suffering-knife-wounds.html
No.408374
Anonymous
Replies:>>408377
>>408373
>BLM attacks UK
>Hundreds of people have taken to social media to condemn the youths for using the Black Lives Matter slogan while carrying out mindless acts of violence. Police confirmed the event was not linked to the movement.

Just couldn't wait to point out "the nigger terrorist movement", could you?
No.408377
Anonymous
Replies:>>408378
>>408374
You are a sick and twisted individual.
No.408378
Anonymous
>>408377

I'm not the one painting the broader BLM movement as a bunch of terrorists. I'm just using the language you wish you could use if you didn't want to be "politically correct".
No.408379
Anonymous
Replies:>>408380
>>408367
I don't really see you doing much other than sweeping proclamations, either. if you have specific criteria for the data that you'd like presented to you, then how about actually naming some instead of just goiing "My secret goalposts are actually elsewhere, therefore you're racist."? You've had enough of a chance to.

>>408371
I'm pretty sure he realises that education and poverty are also linked, since it's not like public school districts don't get a lot of their money from local taxes. As do local police departments, which means impoverished areas often need to call police from elsewhere, creating a sense of alienation.

Personally, I'm thinking a good start for getting better information out these statistics would be to divide by income levels in addition to race, in order to see which is the bigger factor. If not by the income of convicted individuals, then by the medians income level areas where crimes are reported.
No.408380
Anonymous
>>408379

>I'm pretty sure he realises that education and poverty are also linked

Then why isn't he saying so? Why isn't he talking about other factors beyond "intelligence"? Why is he only implying that The Geniuses Who Know Better (read: "the smart whites") educating The Woeful Underclass (read: "the dumb niggers") is the true, best, and possibly only solution to Making Black America Great for the First Time? Because I didn't see him presenting anything beyond "educate the blacks" as a catch-all solution to the problem of crime rates within black communities. You could educate everyone in Ferguson to the same level, but that alone wouldn't fix every problem facing Ferguson.
No.408381
Anonymous
Replies:>>408382
>>408380
>Then why isn't he saying so?
Why aren't you? Do you actually want to help reach any kind of agreement, or just drag out the argument for more opportunities to feel superior?

>Why is he only implying that The Geniuses Who Know Better (read: "the smart whites") educating The Woeful Underclass (read: "the dumb niggers") is the true, best, and possibly only solution to Making Black America Great for the First Time?
He isn't implying this any more than he's implying what I said, it's just that you're using an excuse to presume the worst of anything he says.
No.408382
Anonymous
Replies:>>408386
>>408381

>you're using an excuse to presume the worst of anything he says

Well, when I see someone implying that educating "the blacks" will completely solve "the black crime problem", it's not hard to assume the worst.
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Anonymous
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>>408380
>Then why isn't he saying so?
Because it's fucking obvious. And let's face it, even if I listed every single one of a billion reasons why education sucks in the black community, you still wouldn't be satisfied.

>>408382
No, we'd have to address the unemployment, social mobility, and crime culture problems as well. And even then it wouldn't solve all crime, just bring it to the level of whites and asians.

>"the blacks"
Fucking hell... Educating any racial group provides a bulwark and protection against criminal behavior in that group. This is isn't a genetics issue, it's an education issue. This education issue just happens to affect a specific group of people because you and people like you prevent everyone else from helping them.
No.408387
Anonymous
Replies:>>408390
>>408386

>Educating any racial group provides a bulwark and protection against criminal behavior in that group. This is isn't a genetics issue, it's an education issue. This education issue just happens to affect a specific group of people because you and people like you prevent everyone else from helping them.

"Niggers gonna nigger unless we, The White Saviors of a Good and Decent Society, teach them not to—if we could! But damn it all, government and welfare and affirmative action and the BLM terrorists and political correctness and being judged as 'racist' just keep getting in the way of us saving the poor apes and turning them into respectable people!" If this isn't what you're implying, please, make it much clearer for me.
No.408390
Anonymous
Replies:>>408391
>>408387
Jesus fucking christ this guy is unbelievable.
No.408391
Anonymous
Replies:>>408397
>>408314
>the same could be said of all religions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_July_2016

This July, 0.3% of terrorist attacks were committed by Christians.

Mostly in Ukraine and mostly having nothing to do with the religion.

Are you brave enough to calculate the percentage of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims?

>>408390
It's kind of funny coming from a retarded white liberal living in a gated community defending perceived slights against the black community online.
No.408397
Anonymous
Replies:>>408401
>>408391
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_July_2016
I only heard about, maybe, three of these. I mean, there's probably three per day, but I didn't even hear about the Baghdad Bombings (300+ death toll).

Land mine terrorism? Boiling executions?
No.408401
Anonymous
>>408397
I'm not sure what you're trying to do... minimize some terrorist acts?

Do you think you could possibly minimize enough to reach a 50-50% split between Islamic and Christian terrorism?
No.408405
Anonymous
Replies:>>408406
>Black man interferes with police situation, gets shot for it

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/21/486869035/north-miami-police-shoot-black-man-who-was-reportedly-lying-on-the-ground
No.408406
Anonymous
Replies:>>408408
>>408405
Sounds accidental.
No.408408
Anonymous
Replies:>>408409
>>408406

If he hadn't inserted himself into the situation, he wouldn't have been shot.
No.408409
Anonymous
Replies:>>408410
>>408408
Does it sound like racism to you? Does it sound like the cop tracked this guy down for being black, and shot him?
No.408410
Anonymous
Replies:>>408411
>>408409

Black guy was in the middle of the road. That usually gets black guys shot by the cops, right?
No.408411
Anonymous
Replies:>>408412
>>408410
They were called to a situation where a suicidal man was holding someone hostage. And yeah they saw the autist holding something in his hand, and they fired at the autist, and hit the black guy.
Remember that thing in the movies where cops are fucking experts with guns and every single one knows not to shoot if a civilian is near the perp? Yeah that's a fucking lie.
Because cops training requirements are 15 bullets shot per year, and the average gun owner goes through 1000 rounds per month.

tl;dr they weren't rolling down the streets, saw a black guy, and shot him because he's black. theres more to the story which can be summarized as police being retarded, not racist.

If anything this is an argument to disband the police and go back to armed citizen policing.
No.408412
Anonymous
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>>408411
>If anything this is an argument to disband the police and go back to armed citizen policing.
Yes please.

People forget the police are just citizens with guns and a really really strong union.

Any retard can go buy a gun and have the same level of authority as a cop.

btw thats also what blm wants. they just want black people to live in concentration reservations policed by black people.
No.408416
Anonymous
Replies:>>408417
>>408412
>Any retard can go buy a gun and have the same level of authority as a cop.
Not the same level of authority.

The gun gives no authority. You can make citizen arrests unarmed. A gun grants power.
Police have extra authority over citizens, such as being able to be granted arrest warrants and shit.
No.408417
Anonymous
>>408416
>such as being able to be granted arrest warrants and shit
You realize you yourself can go to a judge and convince him to give you a warrant on someone.

There's nothing in US constitution or legal code about cops being special people, they're literally a mall cop corporation that got out of hand and established itself in every state.
No.408418
Anonymous
Btw not joking, literal mall cops with too many connections:
https://www.pinkerton.com/about-us/history/
^ guys like these unionized and then went on a bunch of strikes to pressure local governments into giving them preferential treatment.

The only cops with real "authority" are sheriffs, and even that is only as a sort of elected town neighborhood watch chairman.
No.408425
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lol wake up to media losing their fucking minds over the Trump speech.

Huffington Post officially the left-wing Drudge Report.
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>"how did we lose the people tom"
>"well janine, we didnt listen to them, and someone else did"
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Anonymous
Replies:>>408438
//youtube.com/watch?v=SsjJvehvV00youtube thumb

Worth a watch, especially for a regressive.
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Anonymous
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Muslim just killed 10 people in Munich.
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Anonymous
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>>408440
The chick lean on the cop girl was hilarious.
No.408454
Anonymous
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>>408449
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>>408454
lol
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>>408449
Chick lean is no joke.
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>>408440
lol people in the cuckt thread trying to say he was a white supremacist, a neo-nazi.
No.408478
Anonymous
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>>408474
>Cho
lol
No.408479
Anonymous
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jesus christ
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Anonymous
>>408479
The whole DNC is just connected elites, selling influence and milking the govt.
They are literally worse than NEETS.
They fly all over the country live it up while selling the country and that is it.
That is it.
There's nothing more to their existance.
I honestly expected at least competence.
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Ex.
Jordan does drugs, asks for "popcorn" delivery guy.
Half his fucking emails are not even about fucking work.
No.408482
Anonymous
And they put their drug dealers in Excel sheets.

Ship to First Name and Last Name Ship to Company Name Ship to Address One Ship to Address Two Ship to City Name Ship to State Ship to ZIP Code Telephone # (must have a phone #) Tin Size: Tin Design Flavor 1 Flavor 2: if applicable Flavor 3: if applicable Custom Label: Yes or No Gift Message: 150 character limit including spaces (all messages must be the same) Extras (include Empty Bags, Personalized cards,Scoops, Ect.)
Leslie Lewis 1060 5th Ave New York NY 10128 (917) 971-7729 1 Yes
No.408483
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>>408479
Media is having a mental breakdown over the DNC leaks. Shows how even FOX news has a fucking pro-DNC slant.

Credit to New York Post for not staying silent with the rest.
http://nypost.com/2016/07/22/leaked-emails-show-how-democrats-screwed-sanders/

So far in the first 5000 emails:
1. DNC massiely conspired with media. MSNBC and Washintgon post were outright named. This is a felony.
2. DNC conspired with Ted Cruz against Trump. "Free the delegates" was a DNC coup attempt.
3. The DNC questioned whether Sanders was Jewish enough, and organized massive resistance against him.
4. Hillary pays for supporters online and is a pay for play candidate.
5. DNC has a mole in Obamas staff.
No.408484
Anonymous
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Anonymous
>>408481
>popcorn
at least pick a plausible codename, ffs
No.408486
Anonymous
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lol Obamas brother Malik just said he's voting for Trump.
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Anonymous
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People forget Trumps laundry has been aired, he can only go down in the polls by making mistakes in the present. Meanwhile Hilldog has a skeleton army in her closet, she can go down in the polls without making ANY mistakes at that moment, because she has a shitton of mistakes in her past that can come to haunt her.

Remember a few weeks ago RealClearPolitics was saying Hilldog had a 7 point lead compared to Trump?

Trump just closed the lead.

>>408481
>popcorn
Isn't that literally a type of weed?

>i need a popcorn supplier
lol this is going to trick the police.
No.408521
Anonymous
Replies:>>408522
>>408515
>Isn't that literally a type of weed?
Yeah but it's also slang for some types of meth, not sure which he's talking about here. Dems seem like hippies, but anyone wanting to do all-nighters is going to get amphetamines.
No.408522
Anonymous
>>408521
>DNC members confirmed for using meth
I don't care for politics, but that would be fucking hilarious
No.408527
Anonymous
Replies:>>408530
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>>408515
It's the rallies, people just don't understand the atmosphere in these rooms. I went to one in atlanta and there's an indescribable electricity in the room, it's damn near religious.

I see vids of Hillarys speeches and it's all bland junky car salesman tripe. No one in the room has any chemistry with anyone else, everyone is isolated and compartmentalized....
No.408530
Anonymous
Replies:>>408532
>>408527
That's a CNN poll? Isn't CNN the Clinton News Network? Literally?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/07/24/wikileaks-emails-pro-clinton-cnn-political-commentator-pre-checked-op-ed-with-dnc/
No.408532
Anonymous
Replies:>>408536
>>408530
>Isn't CNN the Clinton News Network?
The more you force this, the less impact it has.
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Anonymous
>>408532
I'm not forcing this jackass. I know you weren't born at the time, but people have been calling it that since bill was in office.
No.408543
Trending: !.SfJVQOWJw!!9YSBrJDA7pc
Replies:>>408545
Wasserman booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=E-9p_yY7KNMyoutube thumb
Pelosi booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=2aBlKxOKBpIyoutube thumb
Sanders booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=tsYML77fUtgyoutube thumb
New DNC chair booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=nv9wnvFme2Uyoutube thumb
Democrats won't vote for Hillary.
//youtube.com/watch?v=9MxctYkGxOEyoutube thumb

But it's the OTHER party that's collapsing folks.
No.408544
Trending - !.SfJVQOWJw!!9YSBrJDA7pc
^ fugg :D
No.408545
Alpharius
Replies:>>408546
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>>408543
Why not both?
I wouldn't mind it if the USA became a more true-er multi-party state. Coalitions are a little bit silly, but, eh.
No.408546
Anonymous
Replies:>>408547
>>408545
I think people should fill out a questionnaire on issues they think are important, adding any they think were left out, and grading them by percentage of how important this issue is to the person
Then politicians do the same.

Then an artificial intelligence adds all the percentage points of voter issues to the politician based on how high he scored that particular issue himself.

Ex.
Billie puts pro-choice at 75% and war in Turkmenistan at 5%.
Politician A puts pro-choice at 50% and Turkmenistan at 50%.
Politician B puts pro-choice at 60% and Turkmenistan at 40%.
Politician B gets more of Billies vote.
No.408547
Anonymous
Replies:>>408550
>>408546
https://www.isidewith.com/
No.408550
Anonymous
>>408547
Basically that but people can submit their own issues as well, in fact they're encouraged to.
No.408551
Anonymous
It's a shame candidates outside the big two parties will never stand a chance, but I guess it would all come down to picking the least worst as usual anyway.
http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2451731558
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Anonymous
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US-backed Nour al-Din al-Zenki behead 11 year old boy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3697770/US-backed-Nour-al-Din-al-Zenki-behead-boy-accused-al-Quds-spy-Assad.html
US saying it will have pause for thought.
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Anonymous
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>>408184
Sumerian cuneiform board autists have already analyzed islamic terrorism. Unless moderate muslims act to stop it, by these calculations we'll be entering a state of religious WWIII between the Ummah and the rest of the world by the late 2020 at the earliest.
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Anonymous
>>408556
I think that top trend line is very exaggerated in shape, even disregarding the predicted attack-per-second right now.
No.408607
Anonymous
DNC employee Seth Rich was set to testify against Hillary Clinton, and was gunned down on July 10th. This has happened before but she might have fucked up this time and left a trail.
//youtube.com/watch?v=MikSx1-Maroyoutube thumb
Possible links incoming...
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>>408607
No.408609
Anonymous
>>408607
>political assassinations
LAND OF THE FREE
No.408611
Anonymous
>>408607
Well that's fucking horrifying.
No.408612
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>408613
http://www.snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich/
No.408613
Anonymous
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>>408612
>snopes
>a site run by two far left wing people from canada
>supports hillary
Quelle surprise.

I love how Snopes just posts the family members testimony without doing anything to "debunk" it. Maybe because it's confirmed that the attackers didn't take his money, or his golden watch, so the entire robbery angle is bullshit. He was shot in the back. What kind of robber waits until someone is walking away to shoot someone?

>Police reported that Rich was conscious and breathing at the time of the shooting. Had he any information about his murder having been a set-up, he likely would have conveyed such to attending officer before he died of his wounds shortly thereafter.
Concious and breathing =/= being able to speak, or even knowing who shot him. It's not like the assassin sat there explaining who hired him right before shooting the guy in the back.

I love how they're trying to slander everyone as "conspiracy theorists" despite the fact that conspiracy theorists have been repeatedly proven correct by leaks. Such as the fact that the DNC was conspiring against a candidate!

Claim: Snopes is a good source for debunking myths.
XFALSE
No.408614
Anonymous
Replies:>>408616
>>408613
>conspiracy theorists have been repeatedly proven correct
Conspiracy theorists have almost never been proven correct. LIBOR is one of the only cases in recent history.

The DNC emails weren't evidence of a conspiracy, they were evidence of garden variety corruption.
No.408615
Anonymous
>>408613
>>a site run by two far left wing people from canada
What? It's run by a Canadian Citizen and her husband, a man from California who was once registered Republican before becoming Independent.

Independent reviews have always found their articles free of bias on political stories, and noted that the copious citation of sources shows a strong effort to be even-handed.

If you consider Snopes biased, you probably use Conservapedia.
No.408616
Anonymous
Replies:>>408617
>>408614
>Conspiracy theorists have almost never been proven correct
Hey remember all those times conspiracy theoriests kept using the phrase "liberal media" and everyone was like 'the media is impartial you conspiracy theory" and then recently we find out the media literally works with the DNC?
//youtube.com/watch?v=j8JxoKfl5PMyoutube thumb
Or remember the time the conspiracy theoriests kept claiming the government was watching us, and then the NSA leaks came out proving them right?

>The DNC emails weren't evidence of a conspiracy, they were evidence of garden variety corruption.
Conspiracy generally is corruption... people don't need to "conspire" on legitimate business dealings.

Nice to see the desperate attempt to downplay corruption though, now you personally know exactly how pro-government people in China feel.
No.408617
Anonymous
Replies:>>408643
>>408616
Conspiracy is corruption but corruption isn't necessarily conspiracy. A judge sitting on a case in which he is not a neutral third party is corruption, but it's not a conspiracy. A group belittling a candidate in a race they're supposed to be impartial about is corruption, but it's not a conspiracy.

Conspiracies are premeditated acts. They don't crop up just because biased assholes get together and reinforce one another's bias. They crop up because, say, three people team up to take over the Roman Republic.
No.408618
Anonymous
Replies:>>408620
>A group belittling a candidate in a race they're supposed to be impartial about is corruption, but it's not a conspiracy.
>group
Oh well if it's just a group! Fuck me I thought, oh it's ok guys, it's just a group.

It's not the party he was running for.

Just some group.

JUST A GROUP

It was just a group of people guys.

Don't pay attention to the fact that the chairwoman of the group used to be on the campaign of the person they were not-conspiring for, or that after stepping down because of the not-conspiracy she was immediately hired by the person she was not-conspiring for all along. The emails she used to conspire also weren't indicative of a conspiracy.

Nothing to s-NOTHING TO SEE HERE GUYS!

>three people team up to take over the Roman Republic.
Am I being trolled?
No.408620
Anonymous
Replies:>>408621
>>408618
The point is that it has to be *premeditated*, not just basic human idiocy. See for example, I don't believe that you and the other wingnuts who troll this thread are conspiring to make conservatives look like idiots, I believe you're just acting like yourselves and it RESULTS in conservatives looking like idiots. You're a group of people, but you're not intentionally coordinating that attack, you're just letting basic human idiocy make you look like....well, like idiots.

All it takes to eliminate 99% of conspiracy theories is Hanlon's Razor.
No.408621
Anonymous
Replies:>>408623
>>408620
Planning it years in advance is not premeditated enough?

And no it doesn't have to be premeditated, you just pulled that criteria from your ass.
No.408623
Anonymous
Replies:>>408630
>>408621
So you think it's possible to accidentally conspire with someone.
No.408630
Anonymous
Replies:>>408638
>>408623
Not that guy, but I don't think you know what premeditate means.
No.408638
Anonymous
>>408630
Well gosh, now you two are conspiring against me.
No.408643
Anonymous
Replies:>>408646
>>408617
Corruption is worse than conspiracy. I love how you're fine with the entire party being corrupt as fuck as long as they don't fulfill some definition of conspiracy you have in your head.
No.408646
Anonymous
>>408643
I never said it was okay. I said that it doesn't make conspiracy theorists any less ridiculous than they've ever been. Accusing someone of being a lizard person and then finding out they were a spy doesn't validate the person who accused them of being lizard people.
No.408647
Anonymous
Replies:>>408648
>>408646
No one accused them of being lizard people. They were accused of fixing the election so Bernie would lose.

Which is fucking true.
No.408648
Anonymous
Replies:>>408665
>>408647
No, no it isn't. They definitely were against the man, but if course they were, the NC always have preferred candidates. The RNC did the same thing for your pet hog beast, they were just unsuccessful, and did so for the same reason: Bernie isn't actually a Democrat, he just hopped on board to take advantage.

I think of all of the dumb shit you weirdos try around here, the"But BERNIE" angle is my favorite (besides pretending fascism is left wing or Obama killed Scalia, those are timeless). You are not Sanders supporters. You have never been Sanders supporters. If you WERE Sanders supporters, you'd still be voting Democrat even though he lost because as we all know, he's even further left than Hillary and is against basically everything Trump stands for. THE MAN HIMSELF HAS TOLD YOU TO VOTE FOR HILLARY. Or, more accurately, he's told his supporters to vote for Hillary, because as we've established, you were never in that camp, you just will accept any tactic possible to undermine the left in general and the female candidate specifically, because you're a fucked up, alt right piece of garbage.
No.408665
Anonymous
>>408648
>if course they were
This isn't supposed to happen you jackass. And what the fuck is this >>408646
>I never said it was okay.
When you keep making excuses for corruption?

>Bernie isn't actually a Democrat, he just hopped on board to take advantage.
That's fucking hilarious considering he's been a lifelong Democrat politician and community organizer from his fucking teens, whereas Hillary wasn't jack shit until after her husband became president.

Hillary and Bill are the fake Democrats here, this has been exposed and you'll never bury it again.

>blah blah blah accusation blah blah allegation blah blah blah inferring implications blah vote for crony capitalism in human form because you're socialist blah
No.408669
Starving Venezuelans Break Into Zoo And Eat Equally Starving Animals
http://www.trueactivist.com/starving-venezuelans-break-into-zoo-and-eat-equally-starving-animals/
No.408737
Anonymous
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>>408607
People questioning DNC falling like flies.
No.408738
Anonymous
Replies:>>408739
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I'm sure it's just pure coincidence.
No.408739
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>408741
>>408738

Prove they’re not.
No.408741
Slowmobile
Replies:>>408742
>>408739
"Prove the NYPD is racist"
C'mon Stone, let's all be grownups here.
No.408742
Anonymous
>>408741
Alright, you can start by not white knighting for your alt right friends every chance you get
No.408750
Anonymous
>>408742
>alt right
lol
No.408757
Anonymous
>>408742
>alt right
Hey, you're the guy who accused me of being alt-right because I thought tumblr should be used for art blogs!

I wasn't bullshitting; I voted Greens this year.
No.408775
Anonymous
>>408742
The alt right isn't a thing moron, it's just a meme smokescreen for the true right wing, as opposed to the cucked pretenders to the right wing.

Kind of like the Green party being a smokescreen for anarcho socialism (amirite previous poster?).
No.408777
Anonymous
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>>408775
>Kind of like the Green party being a smokescreen for anarcho socialism (amirite previous poster?).
Maybe we are talking about different Greens. The Australian ones are just idealistic, ambitious left-wingers. No real hints of anarchy or socialism. Also, Scott Ludlam.

Lots of people here are mad that 4 One Nation members got senate seats. (One Nation is extremely anti-Muslim, anti-Halal-certification, etc., but I'm not going to lie, their other policies are pretty good. I expected them to me more conservative)
No.408778
Anonymous
>>408777
(to clarify, I meant left wing as in liberal, rather than communist)
No.408779
Anonymous
>>408775
>The alt right isn't a thing moron, it's just a meme smokescreen for the true right wing, as opposed to the cucked pretenders to the right wing.
Man, if that doesn't just sum up alt right delusions as succinctly as possible, I don't know what does.
No.408780
Anonymous
>>408777
>One Nation is extremely anti-Muslim, anti-Halal-certification, etc., but I'm not going to lie, their other policies are pretty good.
They might even get the trains to run on time!
No.408781
Anonymous
>>408780
>trains
>on time
HA!

I remember one time my bus came on time for once, and no-one was able to catch it because it was too early.
No.408813
Anonymous
>>408780
>They might even get the trains to run on time!
That's funny because that's the type of shit current government got voted in on. They'll fix X! They'll make X happen! And we've seen none of that shit so far.
No.408824
Anonymous
Replies:>>408831
He was making a Mussolini joke you dumbasses.
No.408831
Anonymous
>>408824
We know. Tell "him" that the joke has been done to death.
No.408853
Anonymous
Replies:>>408855
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Clintons email server got penetrated by Iranians, and an Iranian nuclear scientist who was feeding us info was executed in Iran because of it.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cotton-clinton-discussed-executed-iranian-scientist-on-email/article/2598807

In addition to funding ISIS this stupid bitch was helping Iran.
No.408855
Anonymous
>>408853
I like that you can't even keep your story straight within one post. The idiocy of the Right is truly overwhelming.
No.408856
Anonymous
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I see people claiming hillary is 40 percentage points above trump, who the fuck is doing these polls?
No.408858
Anonymous
>>408856
Nobody, you're just full of shit. She's 7-10 points above him on average.
No.408859
Anonymous
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>>408856
>trusting polls
Media polls said Jeb would win, because Jeb was paying them. Then polls said Cruz would win, because RNC was paying them. Now they're saying Hillary will win, because Hillary is paying them. A media poll just tells you who's paying them.

Trump beat all these other people and brought nine million voters to his party, more than doubling it (64%) since Mitts and Mccains failures.

Democrat turnout is 24% down since Obamas election. Hillary literally chasing voters away and polls still claim she's going to landslide this election.

This is where the bullshit starts really seeping through.
No.408863
Anonymous
>>408859
Would plus4 disagree with me if I say the entire state of American politics is a joke?
No.408865
Anonymous
>>408859
Honestly, what's the point of manipulating polls?

Do people go around saying "I'm going to vote for the winning side?"
No.408868
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>408870
>>408865

>Do people go around saying "I'm going to vote for the winning side?"

Yeah, they’re called third-party voters.
No.408870
Anonymous
Replies:>>408871
>>408868
You might have misread my post; I think third-party voters are literally the opposite of the people I'm talking about.
No.408871
Anonymous
Replies:>>408872
>>408870
I'm sure you think that, yes.
No.408872
Anonymous
Replies:>>408873
>>408871
Tell me where I go wrong.
>Third party voters are people who vote for third parties.
>>"The term third party is used in the United States for any and all political parties in the United States other than one of the two major parties (Republican Party and Democratic Party)."
>Third parties are extremely unlikely to win in America, ever.
>Therefore anyone wishing to vote for the side they think will win will never vote for a third party.
No.408873
Anonymous
Replies:>>408874
>>408872
What you said, as a refresher
> Do people go around saying "I'm going to vote for the winning side?"
What Stone said, same reason
> Yeah, they’re called third-party voters.
The joke which you are willfully ignoring because you want to get people to vote Independent to help Trump, is that voting for a third part in a Presidential election is identical to not voting at all i.e. simply accepting the winning side.
No.408874
Anonymous
>>408873
>The joke which you are willfully ignoring because you want to get people to vote Independent to help Trump
No, I just missed the joke. I don't give a fuck who gets in, as long as they don't nuke my country. Ease up, mate.

Thanks for explaining.
No.408875
Anonymous
>>408874
>I don't give a fuck who gets in, as long as they don't nuke my country.
Well neither of them would do that so rest easy.

I apologize for jumping down your throat.
No.408877
Anonymous
Replies:>>408878
>>408875
>I apologize for jumping down your throat.
It's all good, I do it all the time.
No.408878
Slowmobile
>>408874
>>408875
>>408877
I'm proud of you guys
No.408881
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>408879

There’s no need for that sort of shit around here.
No.408883
Anonymous
So out of curiosity, I actually tracked down Khan's dissertation on Sharia, not that facts should trouble anyone, and the primary thrust of it is that having theological courts is not supported by the founding principles of Islam and that the notion of Sharia itself therefore has no basis.

The particulars are more complex than that obviously but it's there for those actually interested
No.408884
Anonymous
Replies:>>408886
>>408865
It's about party unity, people are less likely to get disillusioned and leave if they think everything is fine. If Democrat voters knew how bad things were a bunch of them wouldn't show up to vote.

>>408879
lol holy shit!
No.408886
Anonymous
Replies:>>408887
>>408884
Conversely if a rigged poll shows that Trump can't possibly win, his voters might think he's not electable, and they might not vote.

Although polls have been telling them Trump is unelectable from the start, his supporters don't seem to give a fuck.
No.408887
Anonymous
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>>408886
They keep doing it though, the Hill just photoshopped a crowd at a Hillary rally. Pic is the shoop.
No.408889
Anonymous
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And this is the actual rally.
No.408890
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>408887

Considering how different the staging looks from >>408889, I’d say it’s more a matter of them posting a photo from a different event than it is “photoshopping”. In fact, that is exactly what happened, since the photo seen in The Hill’s tweet comes from an event in NYC after Hillary won New York’s primary. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2016/04/20/photos-hillary-clinton-holds-rally-after-new-york-primary-victory/

A little misleading/dishonest? Maybe. But it is far from “photoshopping”, since the photo is a legitimate one.
No.408893
Anonymous
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>>408890
>A little misleading/dishonest? Maybe.
lol, kind of like someone stabbing you only a little bit.

>since the photo is a legitimate one.
Nope even that photo suffers from angle cancer. 99% of the people are behind and in front of her, and the camera angle is only catching them. Hall fucking empty to the sides.
No.408894
Anonymous
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>>408889
>>408887
>>408893
>>408890
No.408895
Anonymous
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>>408887
>>408889
Meanwhile Trumps rallies superbowl-levels of filled.
No.408896
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>408904
>>408893

>kind of like someone stabbing you only a little bit

It’s not even like that. My guess is that The Hill’s social media person didn’t have a photo from that particular Florida event to use (as it was either live or getting ready to go live at the time of the tweet), and they needed an image for the tweet, so they grabbed a photo from an old Hillary event and used it for the tweet. Like I said: maybe a little misleading, but not exactly ZOMG THE MEDIA WANTS HILLARY TO WIN SO BAD THAT IT'S PHOTOSHOPPING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INTO IMAGES.

>even that photo suffers from angle cancer

So? That makes it a carefully staged photo, not a photo manipulated—or “shopped”, as the vernacular goes—after the fact. If you have proof that the photo was manipulated after the photographer took said picture, I’d love to see that proof.
No.408904
Anonymous
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>>408896
>If you have proof that the photo was manipulated after the photographer took said picture, I’d love to see that proof.
Noise comparison algorithm.

I'd like your apology now please.
No.408907
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>408910
>>408904

You’ll have to explain what that is—and show off more convincing evidence besides—before I do that. And if that one photo is ’shopped, how do you explain photos from the same photoset having similarly-sized crowds and similar staging? (Aside from “every photo was shopped!”, I mean.)
No.408910
Anonymous
Replies:>>408913
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>>408907
lol retard
No.408912
Anonymous
Replies:>>408916
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Disgruntled worker claiming to have access to Hillary's records. Twitter @HillsMedRecords
https://tweetsave.com/hillsmedrecords/status/762793112032903168
https://tweetsave.com/hillsmedrecords/status/762836606105423872
Get them while they're hot!
No.408913
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>408916
>>408910

Look closer. See the waving arm just behind the held-up cellphone? Yes, the teleprompter stand or whatever that is makes the image look shopped, but it's really not that hard to see the waving arm there - and how it lines up with the hand just above the "half-face" and just beneath the bar on that teleprompter stand.
No.408916
Anonymous
Replies:>>408917
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>>408913
If it isn't a photoshop, I shouldn't be able to see the dudes wrist below the watch. You've been shown two kinds of evidence, if you want a third please go to the nearest glory hole and put your fingers through it when someone walks into the other stall.

>>408912
Explains why she has a trained neurologist following her around with a hypospray at combat ready status.
No.408917
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>408916

>If it isn't a photoshop, I shouldn't be able to see the dudes wrist below the watch.

The guy’s wrist is connected to his hand, not his watch. And his wrist is above the watch. And if you look carefully at all the other various things behind that teleprompter stand, only that face stands out as looking ’shopped, since everything else—the face of the black person at the bottom, the fingers on the hand holding that cell phone, and the raised arm blocking the “half face”—all look fine. If you want to convince me that’s a ’shop, you really will need to try harder.
No.408918
Anonymous
Replies:>>408919
>If you want to convince me that’s a ’shop, you really will need to try harder.
From reading the last few posts..... plainly all the evidence in the world can't convince you anything even slightly negative about the Hillary campaign.
If you saw her eating a babys you'd be like "well if the baby was already dead, I don't see anything wrong with it, some cultures practice cannibalism after all".
And if it was proven she also killed the baby you'd be like "well some insects eat their young it's natural, #ready4hilldog".

tl;dr you're a fairly pathetic individual.
No.408919
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>408918

>all the evidence in the world can't convince you anything even slightly negative about the Hillary campaign

You claimed an image was photoshopped, then showed me something I can tell is an illusion of perception and said it was proof of ’shopping. I’d be more than willing to admit the photo is a ’shop if I thought you’d shown me any clear evidence of that. But all you’ve shown me is a zoomed-in, JPEG-artifact-riddled portion of a larger photo—which itself was likely a much larger photo dimensions-wise before it was scaled down for the web and inflicted with JPEG artifacts—and that doesn’t prove anything to me.
No.408920
Anonymous
Replies:>>408921
Orlando Shooter's Father Attends Hillary Clinton Rally
//youtube.com/watch?v=71MkUqgqu3kyoutube thumb
Is.... is she going to be using this guy to attack Trump?
No.408921
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>408922
>>408920

>attack Trump

At this point, all she really has to do is sit back and let Trump attack himself. “Never interfere when the enemy is making a mistake” and all that.

But yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if she (and the Democrats) try to use that guy as a way of attacking Trump—and the GOP’s horrible record on LGBT issues.
No.408922
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>408921

Oh wait shit I misread that headline, I thought it was the father of one of the victims. Hooooooooly shit, my bad. IN THAT CASE: I don’t see the Clinton campaign using him as any sort of “attack partner”.
No.409107
Anonymous
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Hillary just tried to off Assange.
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Anonymous
Replies:>>409110
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>>409107
Crooked Hillary at it again.

COUGHING FIT, PANTS OF SHIT!
EVERY TIME SHE TELLS A LIE, SHIT RUNS DOWN HER INNER THIGH!
PEE PEE, POO POO, SHE WON'T MAKE IT TO THE LOO!
BY BANE, KEK AND TRUMP, LIVE ON AIR SHE'LL TAKE A DUMP!
COUGHING SHITS, PANTS DONT FIT!
I WILL NOT MISS, THIS BAG OF PISS!
WHEN HER PANTS TURN BROWN, SHE'LL SHIT UP THE WHOLE TOWN!
No.409110
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409111
>>409109

Prove she has actual medical issues that would make her unfit to serve as POTUS.

(Also, isn’t she younger than Trump?)
No.409111
Anonymous
Replies:>>409112
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>>409107
Holy fucking shit, pick related. He scaled this freehand at 2 AM while wearing a backpack.

If he wasn't caught Assange would have died in his sleep of natural causes with a pillow over his head, or committed suicide by shooting himself six times in the back of the head.

>>409110
>Prove she has actual medical issues
Wait I have to break the law? WTF? Not how it works. The onus is on her because she's the one running for president, and her medical records can't be legally accessed by anyone else. Same as McCain and Romney, she has to provide her full health history.
No.409112
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409111

>Wait I have to break the law? WTF? Not how it works.

Well, isn’t that what the person who shared what are supposed to be Hillary’s “ZOMG SHE’S DYING” medical records did? Did they not break the law in regards to doctor/patient confidentiality and the consensual release of medical records?
No.409113
Anonymous
>>409107
>Hillary just tried to off Assange.
Literally no evidence points to this. In fact no evidence even suggests that this guy was after Assange, or indeed anyone at all.

A man tried to get in the embassy. That's the story.
No.409114
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409115
>>409113

Shh. Let him have this one.
No.409115
Anonymous
Replies:>>409116
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>>409113
>>409114
Right it's just a coincidence.
No.409116
Anonymous
Replies:>>409118
>>409115
If you have any evidence that it isn't, by all means, please share.
No.409118
Anonymous
Replies:>>409121
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>>409116
No, no, I completely agree with you, no sarcasm, no joke, it's a coincidence.
No.409121
Anonymous
Replies:>>409123
>>409118
I'm still waiting for the evidence, any moment you'd like to share it.
No.409123
Anonymous
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>>409121
Evidence of what?
No.409124
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409125
>>409123

A conspiracy to keep the Clintons in positions of political power via a series of “murders” carried out across a decade (possibly more!) that have somehow helped the Clintons avoid the kind of legal entanglements that would derail their careers. Y’know, that. I mean, it’s not like such a conspiracy wouldn’t be hard to crack, given how it has to involve dozens of people (including LEOs, the feds, prison guards, and probably a few regular jackoffs).
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>>409124
But I'm repeatedly saying that conspiracy doesn't exist, Hillary is simply an innocent victim of a series of coincidences.
No.409126
Anonymous
Well Stone, you've given him ample chances, time to start deleting his posts for trolling.
No.409127
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409126

The last time I did that, The Powers That Be told me to knock it off. I listen to them, not to you.
No.409128
Anonymous
>>409126
Or you could report the posts like a normal person.
No.409129
Anonymous
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>>409126
>waaaaah that guy doesnt agree with me
>DELETE HIS POSTS SO I DONT HAVE TO SEE THEM
just close your eyes bro, you dont have to read my posts.
No.409130
Anonymous
Femanon here. I personally love the shitstorm that starts every time some poor faggot makes one of these anti women or feminist threads. Gives me a chance to see just how upset I’ve made everyone and chuckle a bit. You think jokes about kitchens or showing tits bother me? It just goes to show how much power any random female holds over you, they can pull your complete attention away from a topic just by having a vagoo.

Sure, you’ll act tough and cynical here, but we all know it’s just a desperate overcompensation for how much of a doormat you are IRL. If you decide to lash out and act a bit sexist now and then, I can’t really complain.

After all, we do pretty much run the show.

Men rely on us, work for us, spend money on us, and buy us houses and cars and clothes, sign prenups that we can turn around and cash in when we feel like ditching them for a younger, cuter piece of ass.

Got a kid with a girl? Don’t fool yourself, it’s HER kid, not yours. Piss her off and she’ll take it and leave your ass, and you can pay her a nice chunk of child support for the rest of your life.

Yep, this is the power we hold over you. So you go ahead and make your rape jokes, really. I still know that when you see me on the streets you’ll be watching, getting hard, and probably crying a tear or two because you know you’ll always be a forever alone faggot.
No.409131
Anonymous
>>409130
Interesting tactic /pol/-kun, though rather transparent.
No.409132
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>409130
No.409133
Anonymous
>>409130
L O N D O N
No.409137
Anonymous
>>409130
lol 10/10
No.409184
Anonymous
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Hillary opened a jar of pickles to prove she's healthy, but the jar safety seal didn't pop, meaning it was pre opened. If she's so crooked she can't even tell the truth on tiny stuff like this, imagine her lies as POTUS.
//youtube.com/watch?v=-ArMldSapbMyoutube thumb
And she made the broken brain face again.
No.409185
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409184

Isn’t Donald Trump older than Hillary? He could have some form of dementia, which would explain his odd speaking style and his inability to stay focused on one subject for more than a handful of minutes at a time.

See, I can make shit up about Trump’s health based on pointless bullshit, too.
No.409187
Anonymous
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>>409185
Trump isn't taking off every 3 days for a full week in the middle of a campaign. Or half an hour long toilet breaks in the middle of a speech. He does press conferences continuously whereas Hillary hasn't had a conference in 263 days, almost a year. Trump doesn't seem to have balance problems... doesn't have to be tied to a stool to stand up. Nor does he have an agent follow him around with a hypospray of an anti seizure medication. And while we're on medication, why the fuck is Hillary taking modafnil if she's healthy? Are you insinuating she got ahold of it illegally and without a prescription...
No.409188
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409187

Why, it’s almost as if Hillary isn’t a twenty-year-old woman doing Crossfit every day. Imagine that.
No.409189
Anonymous
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>>409185
>but but trump!
I always knew you were CTR, never expected you to blatantly show yourself like this though.
No.409190
Anonymous
>>409189
Trump being worse than Hillary in literally every category is fairly relevant in an election where they are the only real candidates.
No.409194
Anonymous
>>409185
A lot of people are practically convinced that Trump forged his medical letter from his doctor, seeing as it says the sorts of things Trump would and sounds like it was written by someone who has never practiced medicine. "All tests came back positive" and "The healthiest person to ever run for president" are just not things that real doctors would say.
No.409195
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409189

I have no idea what the fuck that even is. And if I were a paid political activist, why the fuck would I be hanging out on an imageboard site that gets less traffic than fucking MySpace?
No.409196
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409197
>>409194

Forged? Nah. Dictated? That I can believe.
No.409197
Anonymous
>>409196
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836
No.409207
Anonymous
>>409194
>A lot of people are practically convinced
CTR isn't that many people man, you can pay for media to release stories all you want.
No.409211
Anonymous
Replies:>>409212
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Trump bringing the bants.

"Hillary Clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future"
No.409212
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409211

Reminder: This is the guy who all but said “I’ll save black people from themselves”—in front of nearly all-white audiences, no less!—and proposed kicking every Muslim (i.e., every Arab person) out of the country.
No.409214
Anonymous
Replies:>>409215
>>409212
>all but said
lol, you all but said youre a retard
> proposed kicking every Muslim (i.e., every Arab person) out of the country.
I'd like to see a [citation] on Trump saying he'll exile Muslim-American citizens.
No.409215
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409216
>>409214

>you all but said youre a retard

No, I didn’t. You can imply I’m retarded, but that’s more an exaggerated opinion of my intelligence than a statement of medical fact.

And how is what I said incorrect? Trump’s statements on black people have all been examples of the cynical pessimism that infects every aspect of his campaign. He has painted a picture of black people all living in poverty-stricken hellholes that only Trump can save them from, and he has done so in front of largely white audiences. Whether he means to or not (and I’d bet on the former), he is using the stereotypes and paranoia of the alt-right to make the most condescending appeal towards black voters that I can think of.

>I'd like to see a [citation] on Trump saying he'll exile Muslim-American citizens.

He never said he’d do it to those within the country (my bad), but his campaign did say, at one point, that the “Muslim ban” would apply to American citizens travelling abroad. (Trump, in a formal statement from his campaign, urged a “total and complete shutdown” of all federal processes allowing followers of Islam into the country until elected leaders can “figure out what is going on.” Asked by The Hill whether that would include American Muslims currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.’ ” — http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262348-trump-calls-for-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-us) Granted, Trump rescinded that notion in a later interview (During a Tuesday morning interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," however, Trump clarified that American Muslims would still be able to travel freely under his plan. "If a person is a Muslim and goes overseas and come back, they can come back. They are a citizen, that is different," Trump said. — same link as above), but he has never fully rescinded the idea of banning Muslims from entering the country, and he has never explicitly said he wouldn’t kick out any Muslims already in the country.
No.409216
Anonymous
Replies:>>409217
>>409212
>—in front of nearly all-white audiences, no less!
>>409215
>he has done so in front of largely white audiences
Why is this an important fact to bring up every time?

It just proves none of the people in those audiences are racist, or else they'd boo Trump when he says he'd help black people.
No.409217
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409216

>Why is this an important fact to bring up every time?

Because Trump’s speeches about wanting to help black people are more about painting black people as helpless savages who can only be saved by Trump. The image he has painted of black people living in apocalyptic war zones riddled with crime and poverty is meant to enthuse his alt-right voting base—the people who actually believe all black people are living in apocalyptic war zones and need White Saviors to show them the way out—while sounding like he actually wants to reach out towards black communities and offer them help.

If Trump actually talked to black people, he might have a better sense of their concerns and what they want from the next POTUS. But he and his campaign have actively avoided campaigning in largely black communities and talking to black leaders; he even skipped out on the NAACP’s national convention, which even Mitt Romney visited during his 2012 campaign. He was reported to have started his outreach in “Milwaukee”, but he actually spoke in Washington County, Wisconsin—which is 96 percent white. Trump isn’t talking to black people; Trump is talking to white people about black people so white people will think he gives a shit about black people. That he does it in ways that mirror the racist imagery of blacks being poor criminal savages who need White Saviors only makes things worse for him in regards to his “outreach”.
No.409219
Anonymous
>>409217
It's more sinister than that. His speeches "to black people" that try to paint him as compassionate (but come off as patronizing) are there to reassure white people who are on the fence that they don't have to openly support racism to vote for him. He doesn't care about the black vote--his campaign already knows, whether or not he does, that he's going to get a statistically insignificant portion of the black vote no matter what he does. These speeches aren't to win black votes, they're to win the votes of white people who are ashamed to vote for Trump because of how openly racist he is, and who are willing to overlook how he's still being racist if he puts a token(ha) effort into disavowing that.
No.409220
Anonymous
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>>409217
>Trump’s speeches about wanting to help black people are more about painting black people as helpless savages who can only be saved by Trump.
Where are you getting this bullshit from?

>If Trump actually talked to black people, he might have a better sense of their concerns
Like when he talked to black people and found out they didn't like the Clinton Crime Law which puts black men in jail disproportionately?

You don't know the first thing about Trump.
No.409221
Anonymous
Replies:>>409223
>>409220
Man, these Alt-Right macros are crossing into outright self-parody.
No.409222
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409224
>>409220

Donald Trump also took out full-page ads in newspapers wherein he called for the execution of the Central Park Five—who were all proven innocent of the crimes that landed them in prison.
No.409223
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>>409221
The alt right is actually pro Hillary. They like the Clinton plan to incarcerate blacks and turn them into slaves.
No.409224
Anonymous
Replies:>>409226
>>409222
So? Can you blame him for being overzealous in the PREVENTION OF RAPE!?

Meanwhile Hillary helped a child rapist and giggled about freeing him to rape again. Oh and she regularly threatens to assault the rape victims of Bill if they speak up about their experience.
No.409225
Anonymous
>>409223
So you're just banging on your keyboard and posting the results now huh?
No.409226
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409223
1996 Hillary Clinton ≠ 2016 Hillary Clinton

>>409224
>Can you blame him for being overzealous in the PREVENTION OF RAPE!?

When he refuses to apologize for the ads even after the Central Park Five were freed—he wrote an op-ed in which he said NYC settling a lawsuit with the Five “doesn’t mean innocence”—yes, I can blame him for refusing to accept the fact that he was wrong about the Five. When his position on policing remains practically the same now as it did when he first bought the ads—“stronger” policing with a focus on stopping crime at any and all costs—yes, I can blame him for wanting to institute a police state. He doesn’t want to prevent crime; he wants a police force to go around bashing in people’s heads until “the streets are safe”, even if the heads being bashed in are those of people who have committed either no crime or petty crimes. Considering the “broken windows” policing style combined with the controversial “stop-and-frisk” program (things Trump probably loved), who the hell do you think would be the most noticeable victims of police brutality in New York City, let alone America?

>Hillary helped a child rapist

As much as it might pain you or I to admit it, a child molester is still a person, and people have rights in this country. Hillary Clinton defended the rights of that man in court. That doesn’t make her someone who condones child molestation or pedophilia. It makes her a lawyer willing to do her job to the best of her ability, even if—especially if—it means defending the right of a child-molesting rat bastard to have a fair trial. Or would you prefer that we suspend the rights of criminals who commit certain crimes so we don’t have to worry about things like fair trials and habeas corpus and the principle of “innocent until proven guilty”?

Oh, and don’t act as if Hillary took the case for shits and giggles; she was obliged by a court request to defend the man. (And he did plead guilty, albeit to a lesser charge.)

>giggled about freeing him to rape again

Show me where this happened so I can see the context of this so-called “giggle”. I want to determine whether it was a laugh of joy at having “won” what she later called a “terrible case” or a laugh of awkwardness at having to discuss a case she most likely hates dredging up because of people like you.

>she regularly threatens to assault the rape victims of Bill if they speak up about their experience

[citation needed]
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Anonymous
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>that fucking anon who says "alt-right" in every post.
No.409229
Anonymous
Replies:>>409230
>>409227
Perhaps consider not BEING alt-right in every post
No.409230
Anonymous
Replies:>>409232
>>409229
Well you've only talked to me once (in SYM, not /pol/) and I explained that I was left.

Real talk: what does alt-right even mean?
No.409232
Anonymous
Replies:>>409235
>>409230
Yes, yes, denial and feigned ignorance, la dee da.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
No.409233
Anonymous
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>>409227
I'm not even involved in these discussions and it's irritating to see, especially since it leaks into other places.
Just freaking hell.
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>>409233
Usually I'm the same. I just happened to feel like joining the threads again until it gets too unbearable.

I didn't know Trump was in Zoolander 1. I didn't really know much about him before the presidential campaign (Ausfag) so it's interesting to see him pop up occasionally.

>>409232
I don't know if it's just me, but I can't go two threads without being falsely accused of something. Apparently I'm Speedy, I'm misogynistic, I'm a troll and I'm "alt-right" (which, according to that wiki page, is literally opposite to what I stand for).
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Anonymous
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>>409226
>1996 Hillary Clinton ≠ 2016 Hillary Clinton
No.409237
Anonymous
>>409226
//youtube.com/watch?v=Tor00iWUhDQyoutube thumb

>a child molester is still a person
No it isn't, and neither are people who protect it. This is one of the main reasons I'm voting Trump by the way, so you bringing up his hardline stance on rape as a NEGATIVE is just hilarious.
No.409238
Anonymous
>>409237
>No it isn't, and neither are people who protect it.
Per the law, yes, yes they are.
No.409239
Anonymous
Replies:>>409240
>>409238
The Alt-Right only cares about the law when it's convenient for them. Much like how they'll defend minority/LGBT/women's rights when it allows them to attack one of the other two, the law for them is something to attack or defend as best currently suits their propaganda needs.
No.409240
Anonymous
>>409238
>>409239
Per the law, a corporation is also a person.

And as I explained before, I'm not alt-right, since I don't support Hillary.

YOU are more likely to be alt right.
No.409242
Anonymous
Replies:>>409245
>>409240
>And as I explained before, I'm not alt-right, since I don't support Hillary.
Question: who is this lie for? Like, do you actually think anyone hear is going to buy "Hillary is the Alt-Right candidate?" I mean, I'm sure given a bit you'll have some cute little macro making that argument, but given as nobody believes those (because they're nearly always lying), what's to gain? Is this like that time you tried to pretend Fascism was left wing?
No.409243
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409236

If you’re still the exact same person you were twenty years ago, you’re free to do the Implied Facepalm.

>>409237

>video

It sounds more like she’s laughing at the general craziness of specific situations (the prosecution sending back the underwear with a hole in it, the judge asking her to leave the courtroom) or how the case affected her in hindsight (never trusting polygraphs after that case). The only time she appears to be laughing about how she “got him off” on a lesser charge is when she laughs at a dumb joke between defense lawyers, and that comes off as a “Holy shit I can’t believe I said that” laugh to me. I didn’t hear one laugh that suggests she enjoyed working on that case or that she was happy—ecstatic, even!—about getting the guy “time served”.

If you thought that video would make me a rabid Clinton hater, you were sorely mistaken.

>No it isn't, and neither are people who protect it.

The laws in this country were written with the intent of protecting every citizen (depending on the definition of “citizen” at a given time), and laws regarding the justice system were written with the intent of protecting all people accused of crimes from unfair trials. The subgroup of laws dealing with criminal proceedings give defendants rights that are meant to “balance” the playing field between prosecution and defense—habeas corpus, the right to a speedy trial, the right to face an accuser—and prevent one side from having an unfair advantage in court.

A defense lawyer’s job entails two things: Protecting those rights from an overzealous justice system looking for someone to put away for a crime, and offering a defense as to why their client is not guilty of a certain charge. (Any lawyer will tell you that “innocent” and “not guilty” are not the same thing.) Defense lawyers often represent the worst possible clients (murderers, rapists, child molesters) because the rights of those clients require more protection; it would be easy to violate their rights and justify it by pointing to the crimes they're accused of committing.

The average person may not like the idea that a child-raping shitbag deserves the same legal protections as everyone else, but our legal system sees that child-raping shitbag as a person, not as the next victim of a lynch mob.

>his hardline stance on rape

When has he ever expressed any intent to strengthen laws regarding rape (e.g., removing the statute of limitations on rape charges)? When has he ever expressed any sort of solidarity or empathy for rape victims? His ads about the Central Park Five weren’t about doing either of those things; they were about bringing back the death penalty so the state could execute the five black men arrested for and wrongly convicted of a crime—and about giving the police more power to bust heads without any sort of accountability (something he still believes in, judging by all his “law and order” talk).

>>409240

>I'm not alt-right, since I don't support Hillary.

That’s cute, what you’re trying to do there. But it won’t work. For starters, Trump is the one with a direct link to Breitbart.
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>>409242
Wait just a moment, what part is eluding your mental power? The fact that she hates black people, or the fact that alt-right does as well? Speak and I'll offer succor.
No.409246
Anonymous
>>409245
We are aware you hate black people, yes, hence why you and your Alt-Right buddies are voting Trump.
No.409248
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>409245

>The fact that she hates black people

Show me anything she has said within the past four years that indicates the kind of hatred of black people that would make Breitbarters shed their pants and jack off like there’s no tomorrow, and I might believe you.
No.409254
Anonymous
Replies:>>409264
Clinton directly attacks Trump for his reliance on the Alt-Right.
//youtube.com/watch?v=kHAlX9a_dfAyoutube thumb
(Skip to 34:30 for the speech)
No.409264
Anonymous
Replies:>>409266
>>409248
You're responding to a video of her describing black people as super predators.

>>409254
lol and yet the alt-right is with Hillary.
No.409266
Anonymous
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>>409264
>lol and yet the alt-right is with Hillary
They aren't, actually.
No.409269
Anonymous
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>>409266
Yep they are, they regularly donate to her campaign.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/26/klan-leader-claims-kkk-has-given-20k-clinton-campa/
“For the KKK, Clinton is our choice,” said Will Quigg, California Grand Dragon for the Loyal White Knights, Vocativ reported.

Here she is kissing Robert Byrd, the ambassador of the KKK, and her opinion on him: //youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEAyoutube thumb
No.409270
Anonymous
>>409269
Lol the WT, why not just cite The Sun while you're at it
No.409272
Anonymous
Replies:>>409273
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Or: "Colored people are like weeds and should be exterminated, but we don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population", a quote by Margaret Sanger to which Hillary responds with "I admire Margaret Sanger enormously."

The Clintons CREATED the school to prison pipeline for African Americans!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act
No.409273
Anonymous
Replies:>>409275
>>409272
Well I will grant, that's a pretty hilarious picture. It's about all I'll give you, but I will give it to you.
No.409275
Anonymous
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>>409273
It's not about what you give, it's about what I take. And every time I prove you wrong, I'm taking your credibility bro... not that you had much to start with.
No.409276
Anonymous
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>>409275
You haven't proven a single thing since you invaded this site though. All you do is repost carefully managed macros, tabloid articles, and random youtubers.
No.409278
Anonymous
Replies:>>409286
>>409276
I've proven Hillary supports the KKK and the genocide/oppression of African Americans.

Feel free to try and debunk those quotes of hers if you want, but she speaks for herself on this.
No.409280
Anonymous
Replies:>>409281
For the Aussie who expressed confusion on what the Alt-Right are:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37021991
No.409281
Anonymous
Replies:>>409282
>>409280
>shitposters from /pol/ are alt right
>go to /pol/
>"how do you guys feel about the alt right"
>"theyre faggots"
Media in charge of understanding subculture.
No.409282
Anonymous
>>409281
Shhh, it's okay Eron, no more tears
No.409283
Anonymous
Replies:>>409284
>>409282
WTF does a failed company have to do with this? You're losing your grip on reality.
No.409284
Anonymous
>>409283
That's right, deny everything friend, these blue pills will never know...
No.409285
Anonymous
>>409282
Fuck off, the alt right are the Cruz and Jeb crowd, they fucking lost months ago and you're still bringing them up.
No.409286
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409287
>>409278

>I've proven Hillary supports the KKK and the genocide/oppression of African Americans.

No. No, you haven’t. You’ve proven that Hillary signed an anti-crime bill twenty years ago and held a high opinion of a man who said this in 2005 in regards to his time in the Klan: “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened.” The former is a bit more troubling than the latter, considering the whole “super predators” comment (which she has apologized for), but neither is rock-solid proof that Hillary is the kind of racist that would make any of the numerous branches of the KKK elect her as their Grand Witch. You can flail your arms and accuse her of “super racism” and reach back twenty years into the past for evidence, but you won’t convince me that she is part of the Alt Right Cult without something other than the crime bill and her opinion of a man who publicly disavowed the Klan.
No.409287
Anonymous
>>409286
Yeah... I'm not willing to risk an entire RACE on your misguided belief that a racist has changed their personality.

>>409285
>months
Of course that's how far behind the initiative Hillarys entire campaign is, because she falls into a coma every three days and can't be contacted.
No.409288
Anonymous
>>409285
Really? Supposedly they're the Hillary crowd, attracted by her racism. Oh, but they aren't racists, that's just Hillary's lies spread through the media. The media which falsely paints Trump as racist, merely because the entirety of his rhetoric is racist. But there's nothing wrong with racism because blacks really do commit all those crimes, BLM is their terrorist engine! Except black people don't really do that, Hillary just wants you to think they do because she's racist. Also they don't really have a higher arrest/conviction/etc rating, that's just Hillary's media attacking the humble officer. Except they DO have such, because Hillary orchestrated that they would 20 years ago!

Trump 2016
No.409289
Anonymous
THE TRUTH ABOUT PICKLE JARS THAT BIG MEDIA DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW
No.409291
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409295
>>409287

>she falls into a coma every three days

If you’re going to make shit up about her health, at least make it sound plausible.
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>>409288
>they're the Hillary crowd, attracted by her racism
Yep, jumped ship after Cruz sunk, they even tried to form an independent Renegade party but that didn't work.
https://twitter.com/renegadeparty

>but they aren't racists
They are. They're the open racists on the Hillary side, which Hillary has to keep on the down low.

>merely because the entirety of his rhetoric is racist
List a part of Trumps policy you consider to be racist, and I'll tell you why you're retarded and it's not racist.

>there's nothing wrong with racism because blacks really do commit all those crimes
Wait what? No those are statistics, and stats don't justify racism. Just like a majority of men commit crimes, yet this doesn't justify sexism.

>Hillary just wants you to think they do because she's racist.
No she's the one using statistics to justify her racism, which is wrong.

>BLM is their terrorist engine
BLM =/= black people you retard, most black people oppose it.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/251667-poll-most-black-people-prefer-all-lives-matter
BLM is the terrorist arm of Hillarys campaign funded by George Soros, you will NOT smear a whole race with their actions.

>Except black people don't really do that
BLACK PEOPLE =/= THE FUCKING BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT
WOMEN =/= FEMINISM
WHITE PEOPLE =/= THE KKK
EAST ASIANS =/= GODDAMN NINJAS

YOU FUCKING MORON

>Trump 2016
The first correct thing you've said.
No.409293
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409292

>BLM is the terrorist arm of Hillarys campaign

[citation needed]
No.409294
Anonymous
Replies:>>409297
>>409292
That's right, pretend not to recognize the many positions you've cynically taken over these threads, wave that infected dick around so everyone can see it.
No.409295
Anonymous
>>409291
Sorry she "goes on a break" every few days.

>>409288
>Really? Supposedly they're the Hillary crowd, attracted by her racism. Oh, but they aren't racists, that's just Hillary's lies spread through the media. The media which falsely paints Trump as racist, merely because the entirety of his rhetoric is racist. But there's nothing wrong with racism because blacks really do commit all those crimes, BLM is their terrorist engine! Except black people don't really do that, Hillary just wants you to think they do because she's racist. Also they don't really have a higher arrest/conviction/etc rating, that's just Hillary's media attacking the humble officer. Except they DO have such, because Hillary orchestrated that they would 20 years ago!
[citation needed]
No.409296
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409298
>>409295

>she "goes on a break" every few days

And what, might I ask, is wrong with someone taking the occasional break from what is most likely an exhausting schedule of travel and public appearances?
No.409297
Anonymous
>>409294
PROTIP: I'm not this guy
>>409295
>>409287
Dumbass.
No.409298
Anonymous
Replies:>>409300
>>409296
>why shouldnt usain bolt take a coffee break in the middle of a race

Um... it's a race.

She routinely falls behind on current events to the point where she's responding to old as fuck news as though it just happened.

Hillary is seriously out of touch because of her little mental "breaks".
No.409300
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409305
>>409298

>Um... it's a race.

It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

>She routinely falls behind on current events to the point where she's responding to old as fuck news as though it just happened.

[citation needed]
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>>409300
>[citation needed]
She's talking about the alt-right in August 2016. She thinks fucking imageboards are alt-right.
No.409306
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409307
>>409305

Yes, and? The Alt Right Cult exists right now; it didn’t disband six months ago with an agreement to make Hillary look a fool.
No.409307
Anonymous
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>>409306
>The Alt Right Cult exists right now
In the same way as disco exists right now.
No.409308
Anonymous
Replies:>>409309
>>409305
>She's talking about the alt-right in August 2016. She thinks fucking imageboards are alt-right.
Yes and yes. Glad we're clear that she's talking about current issues and understands the festering ooze they crawl from.
No.409309
Anonymous
Replies:>>409311
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>>409308
lol you dumb cunt I don't give a fuck, go shadowbox and waste your time.
No.409311
Anonymous
Replies:>>409321
>>409309
>I don't give a fuck
You sure seem to.

I've said it before and will keep saying it: this act is for nobody. There are 6 people in this thread, and they all know the score. I don't know why you can't just admit things normally, unless you're paranoid Stone, myself, or another anon are going to cap it and spread THE TRUE CONFESSIONS OF THE ALT-RIGHT MOVEMENT across the web or some shit. Protip: when Presidential candidates are discussing it, your cover is already kind of blown mate.
No.409312
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409317
>>409307

Nope. You can deny facts to suit your needs, but your denials don’t alter reality. The alt right exists, it is ecstatic about the attention it is receiving from the mainstream media, and—this is the fun part—it is an actual existential threat to the Republican Party.

Hillary isn’t trying to defeat Donald Trump by linking him to the ARC. Most polls have her winning anyway, so linking him to a bunch of racist, sexist, democracy-hating shitheads doesn't matter in that regard. No, Hillary’s strategy in doing this is to force Republicans who aren’t complete assholes into asking themselves whether they want to be associated with a political party that endorses Trump (and, by extension, this fringe group of white supremacists that he has helped bring into the mainstream). She is essentially asking Republicans to repudiate just about everything the Republican party has stood for since the days of Nixon and the creation of the Southern Strategy, and all so they can avoid being linked to the toxic combination of Trump and the alt right. A refusal to do so would equal an implicit endorsement of Trump, the alt right, and everything those noxious motherfuckers stand for—and if the Republicans thought they were fucked before Trump, just wait until they have to deal with being a party full of out-in-the-open bigots.
No.409317
Anonymous
Replies:>>409319
>>409312
> it is ecstatic about the attention it is receiving from the mainstream media
Yeah because it's a dead movement desperately trying to stay relevant, and HILLARY IS HELPING THEM you moron!

>Hillary’s strategy
Protip: Trump is pulling more Democrats than Hillary is Republicans. Her strategy failed literally before it began.

Besides Alt Right are traitors to conservatives, so you can have their 20,000 strong movement.
No.409319
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409322
>>409317

>it's a dead movement desperately trying to stay relevant

And guess who helped with that relevance? The guy who said he’d build a wall at the Mexican border, keep Muslims from coming into the country, and asked black people what they have to lose by voting for him. Trump is the face of the alt right, and every time the Republican party refuses to repudiate the words of its chosen candidate—refuses to call out his racism, his sexism, his mocking of disabled people, his pandering to scared white voters by painting black neighborhoods as war zones and black people as poverty-stricken human garbage who need White Saviors, and his belief that America is a shithole country that only he can save—the alt right grows emboldened. Like a virus, it seeps deeper into the lifeblood of the Republican party, becoming more visible as the party refuses to innoculate itself against a more blatant kind of racism than it has practiced in the past fifty years. And it will not stop until either the Republican party has become the party of out-in-the-open racism or the party says “no more” and decides that its continued survival as a political party is more important than putting a Republican in the Oval Office.
No.409321
Anonymous
Replies:>>409342
>>409311
>There are 6 people in this thread, and they all know the score.
Yeah we know you don't know what you're talking about.
No.409322
Anonymous
>>409319
>guess who helped with that relevance?
Hillary.
No.409342
Anonymous
Replies:>>409344
>>409321
Yes you two Alt-Right folks have your feigned ignorance bit, I know, I'm just trying to tell you, you can let go. You don't need the deception. You can come out and just admit your base hatred. We ALREADY judge you for that hatred, hiding it (badly) has no purpose.
No.409344
Anonymous
Replies:>>409345
>>409342
>We ALREADY judge you for that hatred, hiding it (badly) has no purpose.
Your problem is with labels, you're judging us for something we haven't done, but what other people may or may not have done. That's what social justice is all about, right? You get to feel high and mighty by labeling everyone who doesn't agree with you as Cyborg Hitler, because without this ridiculous situation you wouldn't have the courage of your convictions to stand up for yourself.

You know absolutely nothing about us but what is written in these threads, and I've certainly never written anything bigoted, hateful or racist.
No.409345
Anonymous
>>409344
>Your problem is with labels
No, our problem is with you being shitty people who do shitty things. Turns out, that's also the general public's problem with you. And now that the lid's blown off and the numbers are dropping, you're trying desperately to say the movement is small, or that it is a Hillary thing, or whatever desperate tactic you think might make the situation you created stop collapsing on you.

That part is pretty hilarious actually.
No.409347
Anonymous
>>409345
As an outside observer, you're ALL shitty people who do shitty things. Right and left are equally awful.
No.409348
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409350
>>409347

Last time I checked, the vast majority of the left isn’t trying to curtail the rights of LGBT people and the Democrats don’t have anti-LGBT language in their national platform, so there’s one big hole in your “both sides are the same” argument.
No.409349
Anonymous
>>409347
>As an outside observer
Nope
No.409350
Anonymous
>>409348
Not the same, just equally awful.
Both sides present are extremists.
No.409351
Anonymous
Replies:>>409380
>>409350
Ok mister "outside observer" please point to some specific policy, obstruction of policy, or ideological point the left in this thread have put forward that is just as abhorrent as the shit spewed by the Alt-Righters here.
No.409352
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409355
>>409350

Let’s tackle that idea by discussing marriage. (No, I don’t want to marry you.) The right is generally opposed to the idea of letting same-sex couples be married; this has died down a bit since Obergefell, but even a “softened” version of that opposition is still part of the RNC’s national platform. The left is generally supportive of same-sex marriage existing alongside opposite-sex marriage. Now, you might think those are the two extremes of the argument: marriage for straights only or marriage for straights and gays.

But the left’s actual position isn’t extreme. The left’s extreme on this spectrum would be the complete 100% opposite of the right’s position—that is, the idea of marriage as exclusive to same-sex couples. Show me any kind of serious support for that specific extreme on the left, and I will concede the “both sides are extremists” argument.
No.409355
Anonymous
>>409352
>The right is generally opposed to the idea of letting same-sex couples be married
The problem is in the word "letting", the government should not have the power of DENYING or PERMITTING a marriage, this is not a proper function of government. The only thing the right disagrees with is giving government the power to do these things, and even to force other people to congratulate you on your stupid fucking marriage instead of telling you to fuck off.

>Show me any kind of serious support for that specific extreme on the left, and I will concede the “both sides are extremists” argument.
Like how Liberals think it's evil to vet immigrants for allegiance to Sharia, which CRIMINALIZES gay people and urges the death penalty, ergo anyone sane could only conclude the left wants to criminalize gay people.
No.409356
Anonymous
>>409355
Man you couldn't maintain that "outside observer" act for long.
No.409357
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409355

>The problem is in the word "letting", the government should not have the power of DENYING or PERMITTING a marriage, this is not a proper function of government.

You’re free to make that argument, but if you take government out of the institution of marriage at this point, you’d have to deal with everything that government does for said institution—and how it would affect people who don’t worship under any given religion but want to get “officially” married nonetheless. I can’t think of any serious politician who wants to choose that hill as the one their career dies on.

>force other people to congratulate you on your stupid fucking marriage instead of telling you to fuck off

Is this in reference to the fact that public-facing, general-public-serving businesses can’t discriminate against gay people in areas with LGBT-inclusive non-discrimination ordinances, or is this in reference to the incorrect belief that the government can somehow defy the First Amendment and force churches/clergy to sanctify, condone, or otherwise approve of a same-sex marriage?

>Liberals think it's evil to vet immigrants for allegiance to Sharia

It isn't “evil” to vet immigrants for ties to terrorism, criminal acts, or anything indicating that letting them into the country would pose a severe threat to the safety and security of American citizens. But practicing Islam shouldn’t be a definitive barrier to entry, regardless of whether one believes in Sharia law—if it were, we’d have to take seriously every person in the United States who believes the Bible/the laws of Christianity should be the one true law of the land.

And if you think Sharia law is an actual existential threat to the existence of the United States, I would ask you to prove how. (Especially since there hasn’t been any credible attempt by any lawmaker in any city, county, or state in the Union to “overrule” the laws of the land with Sharia law. Not that it could happen anyway; the First Amendment would automatically forbid any level of government in the US from establishing Islam as an official religion.)
No.409358
Anonymous
>>409355
>The problem is in the word "letting", the government should not have the power of DENYING or PERMITTING a marriage, this is not a proper function of government. The only thing the right disagrees with is giving government the power to do these things, and even to force other people to congratulate you on your stupid fucking marriage instead of telling you to fuck off.

The reason the government has that power is because of the effect it has on taxation and government benefits. The government can't stop you from calling a person your wife or husband, or of throwing a party / holding a religious joining ritual, or calling it a marriage. They can stop you from filing taxes as a couple, and they can refuse to guarantee that insurance companies must respect your union. And that's where the issue really comes in. No, marriage in and of itself may not be a matter for government intervention, but the joining of assets and property that comes with marriage is certainly a matter of law and regulation.
No.409359
Anonymous
>>409345
>general public
Doesn't agree with you. Liberals are ~25% of the population, but you're a subset of THAT considering feminists are ~18% of the population in America. And what proportion of feminists actually agree with your radfem bullshit? If you truly aired ALL of your retarded opinions you'd be lucky to have 10% of the population stand with you.

>>409350
>Both sides present are extremists.
Except I don't call him a racist or a bigot, I just call him stupid and his ideas trash.
If you can't tell the difference between these two statements you might not be as near the center as you think.
No.409360
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409359
>Liberals are ~25% of the population
>you're a subset of THAT considering feminists are ~18% of the population in America
>If you truly aired ALL of your retarded opinions you'd be lucky to have 10% of the population stand with you.

[citation needed]
No.409361
Anonymous
>>409359
>Except I don't call him a racist or a bigot, I just call him stupid and his ideas trash.

> radfem bullshit? If you truly aired ALL of your retarded opinions you'd be lucky to have 10% of the population stand with you.
Using a different set of insults doesn't make them not insults. Also don't talk to yourself (although there are two of you according to the staff so I suppose it could be the other one).
No.409363
Anonymous
Replies:>>409380
>>409359
>Doesn't agree with you.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls
No.409376
Anonymous
>>409360
http://www.gallup.com/poll/180452/liberals-record-trail-conservatives.aspx
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/04/09/82-percent-of-americans-dont-consider-themselves-feminists-poll-shows/

Sometimes I'm shocked at how uninformed you people are on basic issues of YOUR OWN camp.

>>409361
>although there are two of you according to the staff
You're spying on my fucking IP? What the fuck is wrong with you?
No.409377
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>409379
>>409376

>You're spying on my fucking IP?

The mods and admins can see your IP. Did you think they banned people based on username or some shit?
No.409378
Anonymous
>>409376
Yes we've seen you post those about 80 times, usually whenever you feel cornered by arguments and points you don't want to deal with.
No.409379
Anonymous
Replies:>>409380
This is hilarious:
//youtube.com/watch?v=IdYRN8Clddwyoutube thumb

>>409377
Can you kindly fuck off and stop using it because someone is whipping your ass in an argument? Any comment on the polls mate.
No.409380
Anonymous
Replies:>>409382
>>409379
>Can you kindly fuck off and stop using it
Stone didn't bring it up
>someone is whipping your ass in an argument
Argument crushing point you have ignored (because you aren't here to argue, just repost the false constructions of others to be a nuisance):
>>409357
>>409358
>>409360
>>409361
>>409351
>>409379
>Any comment on the polls mate.
Same
>>409363
No.409381
Anonymous
>>409358
These "benefits" are early 1900s attempts to boost population growth by making marriage more appealing. It has no fucking reason to exist at this moment.

Common law marriage existed (and still exists) for a reason, any people living together romantically on a long term basis, referring to themselves by the same last name in public, are considered married under common law (ie the law of the united states).

In fact there have been cases of people having to provide alimony and marital asset splits despite never having married in a church or signed a piece of paper saying they were married in a city hall.
No.409382
Anonymous
>>409380
Stone is the only one with access to IP in this thread, and we all know you're his rectal wart so you know what he knows.

Stop creeping on people blowing you the fuck out in arguments, it makes you look even worse than you are (which is an impressive achievement).
No.409383
Anonymous
Replies:>>409385
>>409382
>Stone is the only one with access to IP in this thread, and we all know you're his rectal wart so you know what he knows.
Dude none of us have forgotten the other mod laughing you weirdos attempting to report abuse off and outing you in the process. I have never spoken to stone outside threads. Stop trying to avoid arguments just because your Alt-Right buddies haven't given you the necessary template to counter them.
No.409385
Anonymous
Replies:>>409386
>>409383
>Dude none of us have forgotten the other mod laughing you weirdos
the mod was laughing at you specifically, your reporting of everything /pol/kun said and his reporting of you was the humorous part of that screencap. it wasnt that long ago for you to start twisting the facts, and you cant be this fucking self-unaware.
No.409386
Anonymous
Replies:>>409387
>>409385
The reporter was /pol/-kun himself (aka you and your friend)
No.409387
Anonymous
Replies:>>409389
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>>409386
lol make sure the thread isnt on the front page before deciding to lie about it.
No.409389
Anonymous
Replies:>>409391
>>409387
Yes, two. There are two of you Alt-Right freaks, collectively labeled /pol/-kun because you post the same shit. I realize you're functionally illiterate, but don't assume the same of others.
No.409390
Anonymous
Replies:>>409395
>>409357
>And if you think Sharia law is an actual existential threat to the existence of the United States, I would ask you to prove how.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/098229476X/

Additionally the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law. This is with 30% Muslim residents. We see the same thing happening in other locations at those Muslim concentrations. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=708_1470922102

Why do you rabidly attack a cake maker, but refuse to attack someone who wants to execute gay people?
No.409391
Anonymous
>Stop trying to avoid arguments
Ditto:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/180452/liberals-record-trail-conservatives.aspx
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/04/09/82-percent-of-americans-dont-consider-themselves-feminists-poll-shows/

Proves the statement:
>Liberals are ~25% of the population, but you're a subset of THAT considering feminists are ~18% of the population in America.
And demolishes your shitty argumentum ad populum attempt.

>>409389
So two right wing people reported each other? Then why are you complaining :^)
The red highlight is you, the green, blue and white highlight is /pol/kun and someone else. Probably me.
No.409392
Anonymous
Replies:>>409397
>>409391
>And demolishes
Nothing. It demolishes nothing, and proves only exactly what the study says: X number of people identify as Y. By contrast, the election polls show Trump's collapse, and the rejection of your ideology with him.

You'll spin some shit to avoid this (the Alt-Right is dead/imaginary/Hillary etc), but no matter your lies, the truth remains: you're going to lose.
No.409395
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>409382

>Stone is the only one with access to IP in this thread

Actually? No, I’m not. That is to say, I don’t have access to IP addresses on this site. Even in my limited role as janitor, all I see on the “Reports” panel is a user ID. And I don’t even check that shit because, as janitor, the thing I do more than any other is clean up actual spam when it shows up. I just went to the Reports panel for probably the first time since I was given janitorial powers to make sure I couldn’t see IPs; I wasn’t even sure that I would be able to access it.

>>409390

>the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law

[citation needed]

>Why do you rabidly attack a cake maker

I don’t “rabidly attack” “cake makers”. If anything, I “attack” people who refuse to follow the law by treating gay people as second-class citizens. If a baker works in a business that serves the general public, and his business is open in an area with an LGBT-inclusive non-discrimination ordinance, he cannot discriminate against a gay person on the basis of that person’s sexual orientation. That means the baker must offer the same service to a gay person that they would to a straight person—the same menu, the same prices, et cetera—even if the baker thinks gay people are diseased perverts whose existence will somehow unravel the universe. He made that compromise when he opened his business to the general public. If he doesn’t want to deal with that compromise, he can either make his business a private affair or close his business. But he doesn’t get to decide who is part of the general public that his business purports to serve.

>but refuse to attack someone who wants to execute gay people?

I loathe anti-LGBT violence. I loathe hearing about some poor soul who commits suicide because they were bullied into believing they had no other choice. Anti-LGBT violence sucks, and it should be denounced and decried in every possible way.

But my saying “countries shouldn’t execute people for being gay” isn’t going to change dick in those countries. (Pragmatically, the easier fight to win is the fight within the United States.)

And here’s the thing about desire, aka “wants”: Unless someone makes a deliberate and intentional threat against LGBT people, how should we treat people who express vague ideas about wanting to see LGBT people dead? Plenty of whackjobs in the US who identify as Christians have expressed desires to see LGBT people wiped out, through acts of either God or man. Some of those whackjobs have even expressed a desire to see the US criminalize (and possibly execute people for) homosexuality. What should the authorities do about those people? And what makes them any different than Muslims who, while not acting on their desires, also want to see LGBT people harmed or killed for daring to be LGBT?
No.409397
Anonymous
Replies:>>409403
>>409392
>election polls
Which cover less than half of the "general population"?
No.409403
Anonymous
Replies:>>409404
>>409397
>I don't understand how polls, or indeed science, work.
No.409404
Anonymous
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>>409403
Only 40% of the general population vote, or about 50% of the voting age population.

What exactly is half of that (~25%) supposed to tell us that this >>409391 already didn't?
No.409411
Anonymous
Replies:>>409427
>>409404
>I am doubling down on my bullshit because I still don't understand how polling, or indeed science, works.
No.409417
Anonymous
>>409404
>Only 40% of the general population vote
And yet more than 40% whine about whoever is in power.
No.409427
Anonymous
Replies:>>409442
>>409411
>I still don't know that neither or no-reply poll results are erased, or added to candidates based on the polling bodys discretion.
No.409442
Anonymous
>>409427
>I was genuinely surprised when Mitt Romney lost.