/baw/ - General Discussion

Petition to "Formally recognize Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization" reaches threshold a month early.

https://www.rt.com/usa/350737-petition-terrorist-black-lives-matter/

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organization

I'm really blown away by this petition.

>>408187
Russia was supposed to have declared BLM a terrorist operation, and banned their sponsor George Soros from the country.

>>408198
More like right on both.

Soros is funding BLM through those "charities", by banning them they basically ban BLM.

Although DeRay Mckesson, a BLM leader, basically lives in houses paid for by Soros so in some ways the funding can't be cut without legitimately calling them what they are and banning them from the country.

>>408184

wonder if obama will call for stricter regulations of automotive vehicles

i think i said this the last thread

Turkish military exercises constitutional duty and removes Erdrogan for violation of secular clause.
Only surprise is they waited this long.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara

>>408206
Secular violation, eh? Hopefully they remember to step down after all these shenanigans. Yeah, right.

>>408206
this is how turkey stopped being an imperialistic islamic state in the first place, good for them.

>>408207
eh, small price to pay.

current leader wants to be the next sultan or caliph, he's been quietly ethnically cleansing minorities, funding terrorism, and importing extremist preachers from across the world.

turkey hdi fell ten points when he became prime minister, and another five when he took office as president.

if turkey wants to remain civilized this motherufker needs to go.

https://planefinder.net/flight/THY8456

erdogan's plane has landed at ataturk airport

>>408213
F-16 strafed the airport, but apparently erdogan got away.

currently hes doing a press briefing from a basement somewhere, and the army is storming media buildings trying to find him.

>>408215
Daily reminder Erdogan made it illegal for anyone to insult him or criticize him in any way.

Democracy won't work in the middle east because the middle east is not secular. When the majority of people do what the Imams say, democracy becomes a theocracy.

This is how Iran was made and why the Arab Spring is such a failure.

>>408220
I can't believe there are people on twitter supporting this asshat. Even if he wins their twitter posts will probably be archived as Erdogan starts purging the military and throwing all opponents into a wood chipper.

Erdogan is surrounded, General Secretary taken hostage.

https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754138236318916608

https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754132746495152128

General Hulusi Akar taken hostage by coup forces.

Army still holding Bosphorus bridge. Maybe trying to form Istanbul breakaway republic?
https://twitter.com/mnecirvan/status/754145049529704449

>>408228
Both of the bridges are still closed. There are also soldiers in all the other cities in Turkey, which media is conveniently leaving out.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-istanbul-bridges-idUSKCN0ZV2FE?il=0

Erdogan holds pieces of Ankara, and there's a crowd in Istanbul that hasn't been put down. That's about it for the loyalists.

Turkish Navy siding with coup forces.
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754149105476132865

Icelands biggest volcano may be about to erupt...
https://twitter.com/alpahufa/status/754029318964125696

>>408233
Same tank in picture, pro erdogan forces want soldiers to open tank, soldiers refuse.
https://www.periscope.tv/HasdemirAhmet/1OwxWvlzXqZJQ

https://twitter.com/americankippy/status/754157687877738496

f16 over ankara carrying a-t-a loads.

>>408241

SkyNews and Turkish media looped that scene like 40 times from different angles. It was hilarious how scared they are.

So far 95% of the military is pro-coup, if even 10% remains disloyal, that's enough firepower to permanently fuck the country.

NTV still showing the 30 second loop, almost half an hour later.
//youtube.com/watch?v=oruk-T3_xSw

>>408242
Of course they loop it, why would they show the crowds tearing apart the surrendering soldiers. Kind of precludes further surrenders.

It is looking increasingly likely that 1st Tactical Air Force Command which controls the TuAF in Ankara/Istanbul is supporting the coup
https://twitter.com/DEFCONWS/status/754162634023239680

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/754263280047325184
Turkish rebel group takes chief of navy hostage.

Why the hell are people including governments supporting this Daesh-backing, despotic madman Erdogan? He's violating human rights, censoring the media and being a total islamist prick in general.

Wtf?

>>408269
HES DEMOCRATIC!!!!!11111zombg!!!!1one1!!

>>408272
>Democracy restored.
Erdogan just arrested almost 4000 members of the judiciary and all serious opposition politicians.

nvm I didnt see your spoiler text

Erdogan is banning US jets from using Incirlik Air Base to bomb ISIS. It seems Turkey is moving towards open support of ISIS.

Maybe this is what the coup was supposed to stop?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/female-imprisonment-numbers-soar-amid-calls-to-free-the-majority-of-inmates-20160614-gpiy08
this is why no one supports this female supremacy movement anymore.

protip: all women have fathers, most have brothers or boyfriends, they aren't going to support your movement if youre going to hurt people they love.

>>408277
sexist male scum

[/s], of course

lol hillary mad a pokemon go joke
//youtube.com/watch?v=vOF4ghVzUQI

>>408291
>have you kids heard of pokemon go
>you should go to the polls
What the fuck?

Meanwhile CNN cuts off reporter for telling truth on Hillary: //youtube.com/watch?v=5my7EJv42PU

Clinton News Network

>>408298

>BLM terrorist

QUICK, ROUND UP EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER USED THE PHRASE AND PUT THEM ALL IN A “HAPPY FUN-TIME CAMP” FOR RE-EDUCATION!

>>408302
Why are you so defensive about it?

>>408303

Why are you trying to paint everyone who has ever used the phrase "Black Lives Matter"/has supported the BLM movement as terrorists?

>>408304
We're not trying to do anything, the BLM movement is painting itself as terrorists.

And yeah if you still support this trash movement after they commit terrorist acts, guess what that makes you.

>>408305

By that logic, all Muslims are terrorists and all Republicans want to turn America into a Christian theocracy. I mean, if you're going to paint an entire group of people by the actions and beliefs of only the most radical members of that group...

>>408306
>By that logic, all Muslims are terrorists and all Republicans want to turn America into a Christian theocracy
Correct on both counts.

Your first true statement is mainly true because the governments of Muslim majority countries aren't bothering to fight terrorism or punish those who support terrorism in their own countries, actually punish those moderate Muslims who work AGAINST extremism. By the by, the SJWs are guilty of the same kind of repression of Muslim activists attempting to reform Islam, see >>408271

Your second true statement is true because the GOP is full of theocrats that base their politics on religion. This is why anti-establishment candidates are so popular with conservatives, why conservatives are overrepresented in "no vote" sections during every elections, why conservatives are overrepresented in votes for independent candidates, and why conservatives are working their ass off to change the GOP (tea party etc). The Republican party is a party of theocrats now, not conservatives. Most conservatives want nothing to do with the Republican party because of their obsession with religion and big government.

What's this fetish with the no true scotsman fallacy?

A unitary (not umbrella) ideological group must police its own loose cannons, otherwise the entire group is subject to criticism based on those. If your ideological group fucks up, either leave the group or work your ass off to change it. You don't get to stay in it, stick your head in the sand, and expect the group not to be criticized because you're the one "good" member of it. Hate to invoke godiwins law, but I'm pretty sure the Nazi party had a few people that never wanted to hurt anyone, it doesn't mean you get to say "hurr not all nazis".

The only thing this self-police-or-leave clause doesn't apply to is umbrella terms like "left wing" or "right wing" that have mutually exclusionary ideologies within, or to things people were born with like skin color.

>>408307

>A unitary (not umbrella) ideological group must police its own loose cannons, otherwise the entire group is subject to criticism based on those.

And if the group doesn't generally have a leader or leadership group? I mean, it's not like all of the world's billion-plus Muslims answer to one or two specific leaders.

>>408313

>All billion Muslims worship from the same version of the same book in the same language with the same interpretation, which is forced on pain of fatwa (often including death).

All billion-plus Muslims do not follow the Qu’ran down to the letter. I know you're about to break out that "Muslims polled on what they believe" infographic, but you can save it for someone else - if all of the world's Muslims followed their beliefs to the letter on a daily basis, we'd be in the middle of an actual world war with military actions happening within countries that aren’t Muslim theocracies but have sizeable Muslim populations. Last I checked, the American military isn't dronebombing mosques within the United States every hour on the hour, so I don't believe we're at war with all of the world's Muslims.

Yes, there are some tenets of Islam that are questionable at best, and those deserve criticism. But the same could be said of all religions, including every known variant of Christianity. If you're willing to excuse the failings of Christianity while yelling about "the ragheads" all the live-long day, you're a hypocrite. And by the same token, if you're willing to whine about the BLM movement's villainizing of police while excusing situations like Ferguson (where the police preyed on the poor, largely black population as a way of generating revenue), you're a hypocrite. And it's just the same for the inverse of those situations. I'm willing to admit there are people within the BLM movement who are far too quick to demonize (and call for violence against) police, but I'm also willing to admit that policing in this country needs reforms - and that we also need to instill some changes within society as a whole. We, the general populace, put police into impossible situations where we ask them to police hellish communities - communities created by policies that enforce poverty and segregation, regardless of whether they were meant to do that - and keep that hell from spilling into surrounding areas. We ask them to police with as little bias as possible, then force them into policing cities in a way that victimizes citizens (Ferguson policing was often carried out as a revenue generator). Society in general creates untenable situations, then asks the police to be Perfect Angels as they try to keep a nightmare from spreading. Society has to take part of the blame for creating situations like Ferguson, and until that happens, more Fergusons will be created.

Also, I thought you might like to see this story: http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article90247307.html

>>408314
>All billion-plus Muslims do not follow the Qu’ran down to the letter.
Then it's down to how much of a Muslim a muslim actually is. Those who are less muslim are moderate, those who are more muslim are terrorists. Ergo "muslim" is still a problem.

>we'd be in the middle of an actual world war with military actions happening within countries that aren’t Muslim theocracies but have sizeable Muslim populations.
Um... we are... good job proving his point.

>But the same could be said of all religions, including every known variant of Christianity.
This exact same phrase gets repeated so often I'm starting to wonder if people that use it aren't in fact an extant species of parrots masquerading as humans.

Let me explain this in small bites of information:
There is no buddhist sutra that calls for the murder of unbelievers.
The christian bible does not have a chapter describing how to how to invade and genocide a group of people.
The confucian five classics don't spend any time talking about how to enslave and rape the women of conquered peoples.
No other religion has been spread through as much violence as Islam.
No other religion maintains the level of violent preachings in 2016.
Islam is not comparable to any other religion on the issue of violence.
Islam is bar none the worst religion in the world when it comes to violent preachings, by a HUGE margin.

The second worst religious texts would have to be a tiny portion of Hindu preachings on Shiva, which is basically their equivalent of Satan. And even then it is a distant second to Islam unless the Aghori are counted, a bunch of fucking cannibals.

If a mainstream religion is compared to all other religions, and the closest comparative point are satanic cannibals from another religion, then maybe this first religion has a fucking problem.

>>408317

>Then it's down to how much of a Muslim a muslim actually is.

So, what, we institute "real Muslim" tests, kill anyone who passes, and forcibly convert anyone who fails to another religion? I know you're itching to criticize Islam every chance you get, but you're not explicitly presenting any solution to "the Muslim problem", and any implied solution calls for either violence or forced religious conversion (which are both troublesome "solutions" in their own right). Do you really believe the world needs to either kill or convert every living Muslim - and if not, what do you propose as a non-violent, non-theocratic solution to "the Muslim problem"?

>>408318
>you're not explicitly presenting any solution to "the Muslim problem"
Secular government and a reform of the religious system.

The fact that you jumped to genocide as a solution is pretty fucking funny. Are you a Muslim?

>>408320

No, but you’re proposing a "solution" to a "problem" concerning over a billion people who don't all live in countries like Iran. How do you propose solving "the Muslim problem" in re: American Muslims?

>>408321
The only problems with Muslims in America are recent immigrants that haven't integrated.
Go past fourth or fifth generation American Muslims and they're the model other Muslims around the world should copy, secular system + reformed religion.
If American Muslims are the worst example you can think of, you need to think harder.

>>408324

But by your own admission, you believe Islam to be a religion of violence and destruction, and all followers of Islam - all billion-plus Muslims worldwide - believe in the same religious tenets. Why do American Muslims escape the same criticism as Muslims in other countries, Islamic or otherwise? Why do American Muslims not have to face the same scrutiny for their Islamic beliefs as a Muslim living in, say, Britain or Iran? Why are American Muslims somehow now part of "the Muslim problem"?

>>408326

>not part of...

>>408326
American muslims aren't a part of the problem because they aren't the ones preventing reform or engaging in violence. Before violent preachings can be addressed first we need to make it POSSIBLE for them to be addressed without the critics being killed. America has that because America is secular.

Muslims in America aren't living in a theocracy that allows the worst of the religion to come forth. Introduce this same secularism across the Muslim world and 90% of the problem will be solved.

>>408328

>Muslims in America aren't living in a theocracy that allows the worst of the religion to come forth.

Neither are British Muslims, but I don't see you refusing to call them part of "the Muslim problem".

>>408329
See >>408324
>The only problems with Muslims in America are recent immigrants that haven't integrated.
Goldfish memory guy.

>>408330


So let me get this straight: despite the earlier assertion that all Muslims around the world believe in the exact same tenets as laid out in the Qu'ran, Muslims who have integrated are somehow no longer a danger, even though they're supposed to believe in the exact same things as Muslims who haven't?

...what

>>408331
Do you understand the difference between thinking a group of people is a bunch of subhuman kaffirs vs acting on that thought to subjugate and genocide that group of people?

Because the first, while vile, has never hurt anyone ever.

Terrorists still kill very few people annually, its not really a problem.

>>408337
And by acknowledging them, we increase the chance of them becoming significant.

>>408332

>Do you understand the difference between thinking a group of people is a bunch of subhuman kaffirs vs acting on that thought to subjugate and genocide that group of people?

Yes. I mean, after all, I think the first thing about most Republican politicians.

Infants prefer toys typed to their gender, says study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160715114739.htm
It's almost like gender isn't a social construct.

>>408342

>your entire movement is based on a fucking lie

Statistically, yes, police killed more white people than black people. But if you take into account the percentage of the American population that each of those demographics take up, white people are statistically less likely to face police violence than black people. Context matters more than you think it does.

>>408346

>the percentage of those demographics engaging in criminal behavior, interacting with police, and straight up shooting at the police is completely skewed as well

It's almost as if things like poverty and police brutality and the intersection of those two things (see: Ferguson) might play a role in creating those crime rates, but hey, why let that get in the way of you thinking that black people are just a bunch of wild apes by the very nature of their existence, hmm?

>>408354

Hey, you're the one implying that black people are naturally criminalistic (and naturally dumber than non-blacks), not me. I'm just not using the dogwhistles that you people use to describe your beliefs.

>>408355
No I'm not dude, that's YOU.

I'm saying they're more criminalistic because of repairable circumstances, you're the one saying they're naturally more criminalistic.

What the fuck is this?!?!?!
>black people are just a bunch of wild apes
Where did this wild apes thing come from, who else in the thread even suggested anything like it.

>>408355
>I'm just not using the dogwhistles that you people use to describe your beliefs.
You're blatantly racist then.

>>408360
>and start beating our wives.
Sounds like your ideal world to me. Not sure what you're mad about.

>>408360
>live in non-EU country
problem solved

not britain either

>>408364
If that was a direct question to me, I was the one agreeing with >>408337

>>408356

>I'm saying they're more criminalistic because of repairable circumstances

Where? I don't see you doing anything but trotting out charts about crime rates and low IQs and making sweeping proclamations about criminality and IQ and whatnot. I didn't see you post a goddamned thing about "reparable circumstances". I saw you arguing, regardless of whether you meant to, that black people were naturally criminal, and their naturally lower IQ is the main factor behind that. Now, if you want to argue otherwise, put in the effort to use words and images that actually express the ideas you want to express. But don't get mad when I couch your argument in terms that the KKK would use - especially when you're making arguments that the KKK would use.

>>408367
>Where?
>next sentence in his own post tells where
lol
He said the IQ (and crime) is repairable with better education.

You're dumb, you're racist and you suck.

>>408364
>its about 1mil+ peoples lives and where majority of those lives would be in danger in the originating country.
So ~500,000 genuinely in danger people, and ~500,000 terrorists or free money migrants.

Why would you object to having systems in place to check which is which, making sure the refugees get help instead of the terrorists?

Are you a fucking terrorist mate.

>>408369

One thing. One. He didn't say anything about poverty, systemic abuse by police and the resulting loss of trust between citizens and police, racist policies like redlining, and any other factor that could - and does - contribute to the creation of crime. "Making black people smarter" isn't the catch-all solution to stopping crime.

BLM attacks UK, the first country ever to ban slavery, and the first country ever to fight on behalf of slaves.

>A police officer was stabbed and four other PCs were injured after a water fight in central London spiralled out of control in the city's worst bout of violence since the 2011 riots.

>At least three members of the public were also injured last night, with reports indicating at least one was stabbed in the chest, as police tried to disperse a huge water fight in Hyde Park during which rioters chanted 'Black Lives Matter'.

>Police say around 4,000 revellers descended on the central London park to soak up the sun yesterday on what was hottest day of the year so far.

>Now, the Metropolitan Police has announced it has launched an investigation into the disorder which was apparently sparked after officers prevented members of the crowd from setting up a sound system.

>Hundreds of people have taken to social media to condemn the youths for using the Black Lives Matter slogan while carrying out mindless acts of violence. Police confirmed the event was not linked to the movement.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3698316/Police-officer-stabbed-struck-bottle-spontaneous-Hyde-Park-water-fight-descends-blade-chaos-two-revellers-suffering-knife-wounds.html

>>408373
>BLM attacks UK
>Hundreds of people have taken to social media to condemn the youths for using the Black Lives Matter slogan while carrying out mindless acts of violence. Police confirmed the event was not linked to the movement.

Just couldn't wait to point out "the nigger terrorist movement", could you?

>>408374
You are a sick and twisted individual.

>>408377

I'm not the one painting the broader BLM movement as a bunch of terrorists. I'm just using the language you wish you could use if you didn't want to be "politically correct".

>>408367
I don't really see you doing much other than sweeping proclamations, either. if you have specific criteria for the data that you'd like presented to you, then how about actually naming some instead of just goiing "My secret goalposts are actually elsewhere, therefore you're racist."? You've had enough of a chance to.

>>408371
I'm pretty sure he realises that education and poverty are also linked, since it's not like public school districts don't get a lot of their money from local taxes. As do local police departments, which means impoverished areas often need to call police from elsewhere, creating a sense of alienation.

Personally, I'm thinking a good start for getting better information out these statistics would be to divide by income levels in addition to race, in order to see which is the bigger factor. If not by the income of convicted individuals, then by the medians income level areas where crimes are reported.

>>408379

>I'm pretty sure he realises that education and poverty are also linked

Then why isn't he saying so? Why isn't he talking about other factors beyond "intelligence"? Why is he only implying that The Geniuses Who Know Better (read: "the smart whites") educating The Woeful Underclass (read: "the dumb niggers") is the true, best, and possibly only solution to Making Black America Great for the First Time? Because I didn't see him presenting anything beyond "educate the blacks" as a catch-all solution to the problem of crime rates within black communities. You could educate everyone in Ferguson to the same level, but that alone wouldn't fix every problem facing Ferguson.

>>408380
>Then why isn't he saying so?
Why aren't you? Do you actually want to help reach any kind of agreement, or just drag out the argument for more opportunities to feel superior?

>Why is he only implying that The Geniuses Who Know Better (read: "the smart whites") educating The Woeful Underclass (read: "the dumb niggers") is the true, best, and possibly only solution to Making Black America Great for the First Time?
He isn't implying this any more than he's implying what I said, it's just that you're using an excuse to presume the worst of anything he says.

>>408381

>you're using an excuse to presume the worst of anything he says

Well, when I see someone implying that educating "the blacks" will completely solve "the black crime problem", it's not hard to assume the worst.

>>408386

>Educating any racial group provides a bulwark and protection against criminal behavior in that group. This is isn't a genetics issue, it's an education issue. This education issue just happens to affect a specific group of people because you and people like you prevent everyone else from helping them.

"Niggers gonna nigger unless we, The White Saviors of a Good and Decent Society, teach them not to—if we could! But damn it all, government and welfare and affirmative action and the BLM terrorists and political correctness and being judged as 'racist' just keep getting in the way of us saving the poor apes and turning them into respectable people!" If this isn't what you're implying, please, make it much clearer for me.

>>408387
Jesus fucking christ this guy is unbelievable.

>>408314
>the same could be said of all religions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_July_2016

This July, 0.3% of terrorist attacks were committed by Christians.

Mostly in Ukraine and mostly having nothing to do with the religion.

Are you brave enough to calculate the percentage of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims?

>>408390
It's kind of funny coming from a retarded white liberal living in a gated community defending perceived slights against the black community online.

>>408391
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_July_2016
I only heard about, maybe, three of these. I mean, there's probably three per day, but I didn't even hear about the Baghdad Bombings (300+ death toll).

Land mine terrorism? Boiling executions?

>>408397
I'm not sure what you're trying to do... minimize some terrorist acts?

Do you think you could possibly minimize enough to reach a 50-50% split between Islamic and Christian terrorism?

>Black man interferes with police situation, gets shot for it

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/21/486869035/north-miami-police-shoot-black-man-who-was-reportedly-lying-on-the-ground

>>408405
Sounds accidental.

>>408406

If he hadn't inserted himself into the situation, he wouldn't have been shot.

>>408408
Does it sound like racism to you? Does it sound like the cop tracked this guy down for being black, and shot him?

>>408409

Black guy was in the middle of the road. That usually gets black guys shot by the cops, right?

>>408410
They were called to a situation where a suicidal man was holding someone hostage. And yeah they saw the autist holding something in his hand, and they fired at the autist, and hit the black guy.
Remember that thing in the movies where cops are fucking experts with guns and every single one knows not to shoot if a civilian is near the perp? Yeah that's a fucking lie.
Because cops training requirements are 15 bullets shot per year, and the average gun owner goes through 1000 rounds per month.

tl;dr they weren't rolling down the streets, saw a black guy, and shot him because he's black. theres more to the story which can be summarized as police being retarded, not racist.

If anything this is an argument to disband the police and go back to armed citizen policing.

>>408412
>Any retard can go buy a gun and have the same level of authority as a cop.
Not the same level of authority.

The gun gives no authority. You can make citizen arrests unarmed. A gun grants power.
Police have extra authority over citizens, such as being able to be granted arrest warrants and shit.

>>408416
>such as being able to be granted arrest warrants and shit
You realize you yourself can go to a judge and convince him to give you a warrant on someone.

There's nothing in US constitution or legal code about cops being special people, they're literally a mall cop corporation that got out of hand and established itself in every state.

Btw not joking, literal mall cops with too many connections:
https://www.pinkerton.com/about-us/history/
^ guys like these unionized and then went on a bunch of strikes to pressure local governments into giving them preferential treatment.

The only cops with real "authority" are sheriffs, and even that is only as a sort of elected town neighborhood watch chairman.

//youtube.com/watch?v=SsjJvehvV00

Worth a watch, especially for a regressive.

>>408436
//youtube.com/watch?v=qT0HuQuEEzA

>>408479
The whole DNC is just connected elites, selling influence and milking the govt.
They are literally worse than NEETS.
They fly all over the country live it up while selling the country and that is it.
That is it.
There's nothing more to their existance.
I honestly expected at least competence.

And they put their drug dealers in Excel sheets.

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>>408481
>popcorn
at least pick a plausible codename, ffs

>>408515
>Isn't that literally a type of weed?
Yeah but it's also slang for some types of meth, not sure which he's talking about here. Dems seem like hippies, but anyone wanting to do all-nighters is going to get amphetamines.

>>408521
>DNC members confirmed for using meth
I don't care for politics, but that would be fucking hilarious

>>408527
That's a CNN poll? Isn't CNN the Clinton News Network? Literally?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/07/24/wikileaks-emails-pro-clinton-cnn-political-commentator-pre-checked-op-ed-with-dnc/

>>408530
>Isn't CNN the Clinton News Network?
The more you force this, the less impact it has.

>>408532
I'm not forcing this jackass. I know you weren't born at the time, but people have been calling it that since bill was in office.

Wasserman booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=E-9p_yY7KNM
Pelosi booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=2aBlKxOKBpI
Sanders booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=tsYML77fUtg
New DNC chair booed off stage.
//youtube.com/watch?v=nv9wnvFme2U
Democrats won't vote for Hillary.
//youtube.com/watch?v=9MxctYkGxOE

But it's the OTHER party that's collapsing folks.

^ fugg :D

>>408545
I think people should fill out a questionnaire on issues they think are important, adding any they think were left out, and grading them by percentage of how important this issue is to the person
Then politicians do the same.

Then an artificial intelligence adds all the percentage points of voter issues to the politician based on how high he scored that particular issue himself.

Ex.
Billie puts pro-choice at 75% and war in Turkmenistan at 5%.
Politician A puts pro-choice at 50% and Turkmenistan at 50%.
Politician B puts pro-choice at 60% and Turkmenistan at 40%.
Politician B gets more of Billies vote.

>>408546
https://www.isidewith.com/

>>408547
Basically that but people can submit their own issues as well, in fact they're encouraged to.

It's a shame candidates outside the big two parties will never stand a chance, but I guess it would all come down to picking the least worst as usual anyway.
http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2451731558

//youtube.com/watch?v=mYI1sZCvJxg

>>408556
I think that top trend line is very exaggerated in shape, even disregarding the predicted attack-per-second right now.

DNC employee Seth Rich was set to testify against Hillary Clinton, and was gunned down on July 10th. This has happened before but she might have fucked up this time and left a trail.
//youtube.com/watch?v=MikSx1-Maro
Possible links incoming...

>>408607
>political assassinations
LAND OF THE FREE

>>408607
Well that's fucking horrifying.

http://www.snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich/

>>408613
>conspiracy theorists have been repeatedly proven correct
Conspiracy theorists have almost never been proven correct. LIBOR is one of the only cases in recent history.

The DNC emails weren't evidence of a conspiracy, they were evidence of garden variety corruption.

>>408613
>>a site run by two far left wing people from canada
What? It's run by a Canadian Citizen and her husband, a man from California who was once registered Republican before becoming Independent.

Independent reviews have always found their articles free of bias on political stories, and noted that the copious citation of sources shows a strong effort to be even-handed.

If you consider Snopes biased, you probably use Conservapedia.

>>408614
>Conspiracy theorists have almost never been proven correct
Hey remember all those times conspiracy theoriests kept using the phrase "liberal media" and everyone was like 'the media is impartial you conspiracy theory" and then recently we find out the media literally works with the DNC?
//youtube.com/watch?v=j8JxoKfl5PM
Or remember the time the conspiracy theoriests kept claiming the government was watching us, and then the NSA leaks came out proving them right?

>The DNC emails weren't evidence of a conspiracy, they were evidence of garden variety corruption.
Conspiracy generally is corruption... people don't need to "conspire" on legitimate business dealings.

Nice to see the desperate attempt to downplay corruption though, now you personally know exactly how pro-government people in China feel.

>>408616
Conspiracy is corruption but corruption isn't necessarily conspiracy. A judge sitting on a case in which he is not a neutral third party is corruption, but it's not a conspiracy. A group belittling a candidate in a race they're supposed to be impartial about is corruption, but it's not a conspiracy.

Conspiracies are premeditated acts. They don't crop up just because biased assholes get together and reinforce one another's bias. They crop up because, say, three people team up to take over the Roman Republic.

>A group belittling a candidate in a race they're supposed to be impartial about is corruption, but it's not a conspiracy.
>group
Oh well if it's just a group! Fuck me I thought, oh it's ok guys, it's just a group.

It's not the party he was running for.

Just some group.

JUST A GROUP

It was just a group of people guys.

Don't pay attention to the fact that the chairwoman of the group used to be on the campaign of the person they were not-conspiring for, or that after stepping down because of the not-conspiracy she was immediately hired by the person she was not-conspiring for all along. The emails she used to conspire also weren't indicative of a conspiracy.

Nothing to s-NOTHING TO SEE HERE GUYS!

>three people team up to take over the Roman Republic.
Am I being trolled?

>>408618
The point is that it has to be *premeditated*, not just basic human idiocy. See for example, I don't believe that you and the other wingnuts who troll this thread are conspiring to make conservatives look like idiots, I believe you're just acting like yourselves and it RESULTS in conservatives looking like idiots. You're a group of people, but you're not intentionally coordinating that attack, you're just letting basic human idiocy make you look like....well, like idiots.

All it takes to eliminate 99% of conspiracy theories is Hanlon's Razor.

>>408620
Planning it years in advance is not premeditated enough?

And no it doesn't have to be premeditated, you just pulled that criteria from your ass.

>>408621
So you think it's possible to accidentally conspire with someone.

>>408623
Not that guy, but I don't think you know what premeditate means.

>>408630
Well gosh, now you two are conspiring against me.

>>408617
Corruption is worse than conspiracy. I love how you're fine with the entire party being corrupt as fuck as long as they don't fulfill some definition of conspiracy you have in your head.