/baw/ - General Discussion
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Is it just me or has this site's activity gone way down in the past two years?
>>397511
WELCUM TA EARF
…or, rather, the glaring reality that is the idea of people moving on from imageboards in general.
Yeah, it makes me kinda sad.
I don't really have a connection to the people here, and they don't even know me, but I like the atmosphere of this site. This place is like my internet home. I don't really have any online "groups" so when this place is done I won't really have anywhere to go. I'll visit 4chan on occasion but it really isn't the same.
>>397515
Destroy Twitter, Tumblr, and every other non-imageboard social media service.
…good luck.
Tbh all the cool people are gone now anyway. Tiki and Tora Dora are like the only tolerable ones left.
;_;
>>397519
I was never find of how clique-y the namefags on this site were, but I'm realizing now that that's what kept this place active.
>>397528
Maybe I should trip/namefag. I used to but then I thought it would piss people off.
Well, I already assimilated the fact sooner or later plus4 will be kaput, gone; and I'm ready for that.
But still, it's gonna hurt.
Also, I miss Coelasquid, Miley, Junk-sama, Kit Hate, comrade, MOE, Hellstroem, and many, many others.
>>397531
You can't save this place. But you can help stave off its inevitable demise for a little while longer, sure.
A lot of regular users either wandered off during one of our month-long downtimes or was driven away by the onslaught of CP early last year. The new boards have more-or-less done away with both, but there's not been any heavy reason for users to return en masse.
Anonex and I are doing a slow hand-over of stuff during my transition into god, which should be done in the summer. I'd like to say that once it's done I'll try to freshen up the site, but to be honest I'm quite lazy.
If anyone has ideas for site improvements, I'm all ears, but I promise nothing about implementation.
>>397519
Thanks.
>>397529
>>397531
What could it hurt?
>>397541
I'd say focus efforts on /draw/, that was Plus4's biggest advantage and draw over other sites as it provided a space where artists could all at once relax amongst friends with a stupid doodle and seek legitimate critique, a couple of events would help, I think with mod powers I could surely put some stuff together at least once a week for /draw/ and once a month for /baw/ with the return of gold memberships as prizes and such.
mitchell_walsh@hotmail.com just throwing my email out there again if you want to take me up on the offer for being a mod and running a few events to try and get users up, I'll put this here too.
>>397545
Well for starts /draw/ is REALLY GROSS, it's literally NSFW, It needs cleaning out, mind you not a banning of porn, just to use NSFW tags and no porn images for starting threads, a sticky thread outlining how things go would help, then events and such coupled to a positive experiences free from GODDAMN PEOPLE COMING LITERALLY FOR ONLY PORN REQUESTS and depending on what you can do to give people silly fun name colors as rewards it should revive pretty easily, really all of plus4 should be able to live again with a little investment of time which I can do pretty easily as a mod.
As for board layouts have you tried "i am gay" at the bottom of the page? I dunno why it's called that but it makes things stomach-able for me.
OH, we need subject headers back really badly.
And if I go mod I will devote a lot of my time to figuring out some way to resurrect /radio/.
>>397546
>/draw/ is REALLY GROSS
It's in a fucked up state; I'm sure that about half the posts are some twelve year olds that got lost and are asking for porn. Anoher is asking for GamerGate porn or some shit. The rest is (somehow) deader than before.
There needs to be a sticky.
>>397548
Like I said, a little tending that garden and it'll be fine, I spend enough time on this site it may as well be productive.
I should note that any changes that do happen will be gradual things. (We're still celebrating Anonexmas, after all.)
>>397542
Our hugbox is too tight for that for that right now. However, if the posting rate increases, there could be a change like "/baw/ - Random" with forced anon and "/gen/ - SFW General" would be created.
>>397544
Thanks for the offer, I'll consider it
>>397545
Anonex had a different layout in the works, but it was never completed; I'm trying to get that as well, since my graphical prowess is lacking.
>>397546
>I dunno why it's called that
Because secret was annoyed with all the complaints about the layout
>>397547
>OH, we need subject headers back really badly.
Absolutely in the plans. Of anything that possibly would be done, this is the most likely.
>And if I go mod I will devote a lot of my time to figuring out some way to resurrect /radio/.
/radio/ will not be resurrected because MP3s can be uploaded to many boards (and, eventually, most boards). However, a radio is on my "would be nice list", something like the old +4 radio where it's a frame along the side/top and will pull MP3s from all boards.
Also, as long as we're discussing nebulous plans, is there any interest in the archives? Right now it's a huge draw from google searches (for porn) and could be useful for more posters (interested in porn), but I don't know if any regular anons care about it.
Options are:
1) Do nothing, leave them alone
2) Get rid of them entirely
3) Clean them up (get rid of any remaining spam, empty threads) but otherwise don't touch them
4) 3, and merge the archives into one archive (yes, we have two archives)
5) 4, and get rid of all non-image-containing posts
6) 5, but keep only images in a booru-like manner
Also, on the topic of radio, we do have a radio that reads boards' MP3s: http://boards.plus4chan.org/rad.php
>>397554
Would love a link on the top bar to that. I suggest putting it between the Home and /baw/ links.
>>397552
You've got my email now at least, like I said I can get lots of events running and especially get /draw/ back in order since it was a lynch pin in old plus4's community.
Do you have the ability to do anything like the gold memberships anymore?
>>397553
If we had anything going on I'd say 2) Scrap them, but right now it's enough of a graveyard I don't think that's an option, so 4 I'd say would be for the best.
>>397554
That's really good to know this will be wonderful, also the sidebar idea is pretty great.
I know Anonex was somewhat averse to porn, they acknowledged it but didn't seem to want to perpetuate it, from the sound of things you sound a little like you want to push it a little more? I mean obviously not outside of it's boards but let it bring in a little more activity?
>>397546
>>397549
/draw/ is not gross, it just lacks seriousness, there aren't serious study or criticism threads and that is what makes it worthwhile for artists.
>As for board layouts have you tried "i am gay" at the bottom of the page?
With a new layout I mean that I want to press the replay buttun and be taken to the thread instead of having the replay box open. Plus I don't like the open box on the lower part of the page or the fact that clicking on the post's number dosn't make me replay to it.
This layout is the special snowflake of imageboards.
>>397553
The archives are fine I just think they need to be accecible from the front page but a booru sounds cool.
>>397554
Posting just because
>>397561
/draw/ in it's current state is both dead and filled with uncensored NSFW, making it impossible to casually go on and post, compared to what it was, it's gross.
Also that song is dope.
>>397559
Lazily done.
>>397560
>Do you have the ability to do anything like the gold memberships anymore?
koba has a "VIP" system; dunno how much it's like the Gold Member system, but it's something I can look at
> from the sound of things you sound a little like you want to push it a little more?
I like porn, and it's always a huge draw for users (not necessarily posters). I have no inclination to get rid of any promotion board, but I don't want to push it harder, either. If it brings in more activity, that's fine, but I'm not going to set up anything more particular than the three we already have with the current post rates.
>>397561
I have similar complaints about the current layout, which will be changed at the same the Subject field is added back.
>The archives are fine I just think they need to be accecible from the front page but a booru sounds cool.
Yes, the front page would be updated to include archive links, as well as individual boards to their respective archive.
>>397562
>/draw/ in it's current state is both dead and filled with uncensored NSFW
I don't want to make /draw/ SFW. I like the idea of artistic freedom, so if someone wants to make a post where all they do is draw multi-colored dicks, well, so be it. An alternative SFW board would be possible, if there was sufficient demand for it.
>>397563
I think the one /draw/ is fine NSFW and I am also down with porn, but I think /draw/ should use NSFW tags, it would just make the board a lot more welcoming if you wanted to just jump on it for a minute and throw down a doodle, it's not like it's even getting any real activity in it's current state.
Is there anyway to up the limit on file sizes or does that have a really good reason for being the way it is?
>>397571
If it were up to me, I would have just NOT banned you, since you're being a douche about it.
Couldn't you just block yourself and throw away the password?
Continually restarting the site with varying levels of satisfying interface, starting projects only to drop them a month later, and not really providing anything new or worthwhile in comparison with the 'competition' will do that.
And this is probably the ugliest it's ever looked from my perspective. Also we whine a lot.
>>397553
Option 4 sounds the best in my opinion.
And I would also like a bigger file size limit, for mp3 specifically, but larger webms are fine too. And is /a/vatar going to be deleted? I know it's classic and I use to post anonymously on it back some time during book 2 and 3 of the original series, but it's effectively dead weight now that Korra is over.
I'm happy that the radio side bar is coming back. And I feel forced Anon, even if it's on just one board, for such a small community seams a bit useless. I would like /durp/ back though.
I cleaned all the dead 12 year old request threads out of draw, I'm gonna try getting a thread going later so if anyone has a fun thread suggestion idea it'd be cool.
tl;dr dozens of top contributors got banned and moved on with their lives before the ban expired
>>397604
Huh? No one got banned (well not top contributors anyway), the site went down and people left.
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SQL statistics:
| time taken: 0.00069213 | SELECT b.*, ppass.`password`, ( SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT `kobaboardban`.`boardid` ORDER BY `kobaboardban`.`boardid` SEPARATOR ',') FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `banid` = b.`id` GROUP BY `banid` ) AS `active_boards` FROM `kobaban` as b LEFT JOIN `kobafingerprint` fp ON b.`fingerprint_id` = fp.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON b.`password_id` = ppass.`id` WHERE ( (`iplong1` = 'd849d8d8') OR (`iplong1` <= 'd849d8d8' AND 'd849d8d8' <= `iplong2`) ) AND `type` IN(-1,0,1,2,3) AND (b.`id` IN ( SELECT `banid` FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `boardid` IN(1) ) OR `global` = 1) ORDER BY `type`,`expiration` DESC | no rows found or affected (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.00532794 | SELECT p.*, ppass.`password`, ipinfo.`ipmd5`, ipinfo.`ipcrypt`, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, s.pagenumber, s.total_posts, s.total_files, s.total_image, s.total_audio, s.total_video, s.total_swf, s.unique_ip, s.unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` AND p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapoststats` s ON p.`boardid` = s.`boardid` AND p.`postid` = s.`threadid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND p.`postid` = '397511' AND p.`parentid` = '0' AND p.`deleted` != '1' UNION ALL SELECT p.*, ppass.`password`, ipinfo.`ipmd5`, ipinfo.`ipcrypt`, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, null as pagenumber, null as total_posts, null as total_files, null as total_image, null as total_audio, null as total_video, null as total_swf, null as unique_ip, null as unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` and p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND p.`parentid` = '397511' AND p.`deleted` != '1' | no error (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.00275397 | SELECT pf.`pfid`, pf.`order`, pf.`filename`, pf.`thumb`, f.* FROM `kobapostfile` pf LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` WHERE (pf.`pfid`) IN( SELECT * FROM( SELECT p.`id` FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` AND p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostfile` pf ON p.`id` = pf.`pfid` LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND p.`postid` = '397511' AND p.`parentid` = '0' AND p.`deleted` != '1' ) as sub) UNION ALL SELECT pf.`pfid`, pf.`order`, pf.`filename`, pf.`thumb`, f.* FROM `kobapostfile` pf LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` WHERE (pf.`pfid`) IN( SELECT * FROM( SELECT p.`id` FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` and p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostfile` pf ON p.`id` = pf.`pfid` LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND p.`parentid` = '397511' AND p.`deleted` != '1' ) as sub) | no error (prepared query) |
actions:
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| before_validation | actions: 1 | start: 1760035256.90725000 | end: 1760035256.90725500 | took (total): 0.000005 |
| footer_meta | actions: 8 | start: 1760035256.92369400 | end: 1760035256.92373400 | took (total): 0.000040 |
| header_meta | actions: 6 | start: 1760035256.92136600 | end: 1760035256.92141100 | took (total): 0.000045 |
| setup_html | actions: 4 | start: 1760035256.92122900 | end: 1760035256.92129200 | took (total): 0.000063 |
| validation | actions: 1 | start: 1760035256.90727000 | end: 1760035256.92117500 | took (total): 0.013905 |
APCU extension loaded: YES
APCU function exists: YES
APCU enabled? YES
Memcache class exists? no
Memcached class exists? YES
Redis class exists? YES
Mode selected in config: redis
Currently using: disk
Used memory: 27kB
Available memory: 125.44MB
| info | created | ttl | deletes in | hits | size |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| kobak_cache | 2025-10-09 11:36:54.748 | 43200 sec | 42958 sec | 1 (this pageload) | 6kB |
| kobak_thread-1-397511 | 2025-10-09 11:40:56.919 | 86400 sec | 86400 sec | 0 (this pageload) | 20kB |
| kobak_banners | 2025-10-09 11:36:58.897 | 43200 sec | 42962 sec | 1 (this pageload) | 1kB |
Rewrite/redirect rules:
| Redirect | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | $matches[1]\/ | 302 |
| Redirect | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | $matches[1]\/ | 302 |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/?(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]&pagenumber=$matches[2] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=catalog&board=$matches[1] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=thread&board=$matches[1]&thread=$matches[2]&ext=$matches[3] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$/ | index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$/ | index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_posts\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_threads\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss |
rules in htaccess format:
RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$ $1/ [R=302,L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$ $1/ [R=302,L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)/(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=index&board=$1 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=index&board=$1&pagenumber=$2 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=catalog&board=$1 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=thread&board=$1&thread=$2&ext=$3 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$ index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$1&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$ index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$1&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_posts\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_threads\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss [L,QSA]