>As for any future leaks that may inevitably occur—frankly, I look forward to them. I’ve been amused by past leaks because they usually show just how mundane and even-keeled 4chan’s moderation team is. So true. (I don't mean that in a shitty complaining way, but in a 'I know that feeling' way)
Also, why do people still give a shit about gamer gate and all that shit? I don't /v/, but I can't see how it is important.
>>395972 The older I get the more I'm starting to lean towards the side that wants stricter rules enforced on the net. The Digital Wild West thing we have was nice and all, but it's just not sustainable. Yet, the shit thing about ending it is that companies are going to be the ones making and enforcing most of the rules, which just ends up fucking everyone but the 1% again.
>>396059 Deal with it, because as every other replacement chan has shown, nothing will ever gain as much traction as the motherchan did. Only thing that even came close was 7chan. 8chan still seems iffy to me.
>>396110 Ironically plus4chan was a haven of free speech back when 4chan was banning people for saying jew and worldfiltering nigger to african american. There was even an /n/ board that was 90% racist trolling and 10% unironic racism. I got called "gweilo" by a chinese person there for the first time in my life.
However most of the solid people like Maya and Squid moved on with their life, Bea got infected by SJW virus, and people started being banned for hurting feelings. /baw/ used to have more than one post per hour before the bearcaust.
Now fullchan is the only option. They have a decent /co/ board that's cozy as fuck, and there's less thought policing.
Also for some reason I've noticed lately SJWs are abandoning +4 as well, maybe because of low userbase?
you know, i just took a peek at their /co/. Every thread with a topic i'd even care about has almost invariably less than 10 replies and the rest are almost all image, mostly porn dumps with annoyingly big thumbnails or animated gifs and multiple of them per post, and if not, meta bitching. The catalog is strainful to the eyes too.
honestly i was pretty off put when this place started doing this centered board thing but it still beats that mess by a massive margin. I can't even browse that place fast enough to scroll over the stuff i don't care about.
>>396124 I'm annoyed at 4chan getting called halfchan entirely because it's not even the first chan, 2chan is. Or 2ch if textboards count. But you know there's only one chan we can all get behind: 1chan.
>>396161 I wish I could have done it, but timezones are a bitch. Gave up aroundd 1 AM after 4 hours or something. At this point he seemed to have answered everything anyway. I will just miss the final good bye.
>>396224 If most of them were fake, that would take an incredible level of autism to fake that many chat logs with the degree of detail they have. It's 45mb of text files that are each 1000 lines long at the least, with he longest going to 2250056.
>>396232 >to kill someone is an order of magnitude more criminal that just hurting them, like cutting them, even. >so it's an order of magnitude above killing, at least, to kill a CULTURE or LANGUAGE I'm not seeing the part where they establish cultures and languages as having greater rights than people. They're larger, more influential, and often longer lived, but if anything that makes protecting them a lesser priority, not a greater one.
>>396236 I object. Not to Mehcad Brooks casting, that's probably fine (or at least not any worse than the rest of MoS' casting) but Jimmy Olsen's done some ood stuff. /co/ is just using it as an excuse to be racist as shit as usual.
>people acting like if 4chan's moderation being autist cuntbags was a new thing >Butthurt virgins are going to continue posteing on 4 until they get banned and complain about it on 8 They will never know the joy of browseing several chans equaly, if only those same faggots posted more on other places.
>>396251 /co/ always eat up all the internet facebook fads, nothing new. Also a bord notorious for spamming horrible fetish "/co/ Creation" threads by the dozen is really not the place to laugh at other people's vision of their medium.
>>396268 That's some silly logic. I doubt anyone complaining about actually was around when that project was done also by your logic, /co/ should not complain about anything ever since we have made racially swapped characters, children of two characters from different universes, trans characters, OC characters that are practically color swaps, fetish based characters and others.
Just because /co/ did something like it in the past doesn't mean we can't complain about something similar. The problem stem from people trying to make it some big deal because of tumblr.
>>396269 >The problem stem from people trying to make it some big deal because of tumblr. This. The problem's all the people just ready at the gun to spew shit. I'm sure the same people that worked on a lot of 'progressive' /co/ projects aren't even on /co/ anymore.
>>396268 >>396269 The problem is people considering /co/ as a single minded person. /co/ projects are typically "300 posts, 15 unique posters" tier, it's far from being spread or popular. They just benefit from the board slowness to bump infinitely.
>>396278 well duh, of course it's now. Why talk about old stuff that doesn't match the modern posters considering we are talking about current events. People who post on 4chan now don't have to carry any sort of legacy based on what people posted 8 years ago.
I wish I could go back to times where I didn't know terms like "male gaze" and "cultural appropiation". Because I didn't learn about them from the handful of people who actually use them unironically. I was bombarded by them from the thousands of idiots who are obsessed with these handful of people.
they desperately want people to move to the new /co/ since they're the whinners from before realizing they're useless on their own, and insist it exists sepparatedly from the counter feminist warfare and /pol/ shit from the rest of the site.
>>396291 Eh, from personal experience I can say it's definitely way more than a handful of people using the phrase "cultural appropriation" unironically, even if most of them are overapplying it. I've actually got into debates with an astounding number of people who do use it to complain about frivolous things like white people wearing kimonos or Native American jewelry, and sometimes I manage to get my point through but a lot of it ends in "shut up you white POS you don't know anything" even though, hilariously, I'm not even white. It's gotten to the point that actual left-leaning news websites have written multiple articles criticizing the bunkum spewed about how awful it is that white people bellydance or wear bindis. It's even gotten to the point that black women are being attacked for appropriating bindis because they wore similar looking African jewelry.
At the same time, regardless of how many people are doing it most of them are just angry teens going through a phase and wanting an excuse to be abusive to people while feeling self-superior. It's not a good platform to judge the actual academic merit of "cultural appropriation" or a reason to dismiss the idea wholesale, and the same goes for all the other valid sociological concepts like "racism = prejudice + power" which became warped into tools for petty social revenge after leaving the ivory tower.
>>396312 their logic tho >white people can't wear kimonos or our culturally-based jewellery! that's fucking disgusting >whats wrong about me wearing white clothing, using their technology, eating their traditional foods and speaking their language? are you trying to be rascist!?! Maybe we should finally tell them tumblr was created by a cis white male.
>>396323 Usually cultural appropriation is about things that have significant cultural value, not just food or technology. So a person eating sushi wouldn't be considered, but if they were to use a headdress as a prop, it's disrespectful to the actual real deal. That's disregarding that most people wear white clothing, use white technology, and eat traditional foods and speak English because of either assimilation or market dominance: it's very hard to call an American eating a burger 'appropriating' even if they're not Caucasian.
People will talk about how it's a matter of who's oppressing who, but really cultural appropriation is just about a certain level of respect between different nations. If it's sacred and unique to here, it shouldn't be a costume prop and a punchline there.
>>396328 Both food and technology can be cultural, especially food which along with things like art, language and religion is one of the pillars of culture. By tumblr logic I should lose my shit at every non-European that drinks European alcohol, eats European food, speaks European languages or reads European authors, listens to European music, or wears clothing traditional in Europe.
>That's disregarding that most people wear white clothing, use white technology, and eat traditional foods and speak English White kids are being forced to listen to rap by media, therefore they aren't culturally appropriating when they grow up and become popular rap musicians. White people are being exposed to foreign foods through popular market giants like taco bell, and being exposed to headgear by economic forces (such as fashion or sports) as well, therefore neither are cultural appropriation. See how dumb the logic is?
In any case, none of this should distract from the fact that 'cultural appropriation' is bullshit on a basic level. Any multicultural country thrives on the mixing of cultures, ABSORBING the best of international cultures and REJECTING the worst, to create something new and better than anything before. Take away the ability to ABSORB and all we will be left is REJECTION of foreign cultures, which will turn our society xenophobic as fuck.
People who unironically using the phrase 'cultural appropriation' fundamentally don't understand multiculturalism.
>>396330 >By tumblr logic I should lose my shit at every non-European that drinks European alcohol, eats European food, speaks European languages or reads European authors, listens to European music, or wears clothing traditional in Europe. By tumblr logic who the fuck said that tumblr gets to define these concepts Mixing cultures is great, cultural appropriation is just a term for when a culture is degraded through its absorption into another. Food and technology are cultural but they're not uniquely sacred, and nobody's even saying that the uniquely sacred things can't be assimilated but they should have it done with the proper respect. Multiculturalism should mix, not conquer or turn a way of life into a punchline. Eating Taco Bell isn't cultural appropriation (it's just eating shitty food), but a Taco Bell built to look like the Ramakrishna Temple to celebrate a new Ramakrispy Taco is a bit shitty. It's like your only experience with social issues is arguing with idiots online. It's not a black and white issue, multiculturalism can still be celebrated while keeping the dangers of cultural appropriation in mind.
>>396330 >By tumblr logic I should lose my shit at every non-European that drinks European alcohol, eats European food, speaks European languages or reads European authors, listens to European music, or wears clothing traditional in Europe.
Why is it that every time I see someone complaining about "tumblr logic" it not only directly contradicts the posts I see on Tumblr about this stuff, but also starts making up new things to be angry about? Maybe at this point Tumblr has just become a boogeyman for cranky people to yell about when they're done reading the Daily Mail every morning.
>>396344 No, he doesn't. He argues against something that people aren't actually saying and makes a point that shows a profound misunderstanding of the thing people are actually complaining about to justify his moral outrage. Just like every other cranky 80 year old reading about the things teenagers are doing.
>>396348 "Caricaturizing how real life people actually live and treating it like a theme park oddity is a Shitty Thing To Do." That's it. It's not about eating food other people eat or wearing clothes other people wear, it's about, effectively, blackface and minstrel shows. Eating sushi isn't cultural appropriation. Calling yourself Jim-san, dressing like a cartoon ninja and ending all your english sentences in -desu is cultural appropriation.
>>396359 >You sound massively retarded. Says the person defending white nerds who only get their knowledge of Japanese culture from anime and JRPGs.
Seriously, what was wrong with this post?: >"Caricaturizing how real life people actually live and treating it like a theme park oddity is a Shitty Thing To Do." That's it. It's not about eating food other people eat or wearing clothes other people wear, it's about, effectively, blackface and minstrel shows. Eating sushi isn't cultural appropriation. Calling yourself Jim-san, dressing like a cartoon ninja and ending all your english sentences in -desu is cultural appropriation.
This anon was just saying not to be disrespectful, ignorant jerk when it comes to other cultures.
Watching anime is fine. Eating sushi is fine. Cosplaying is fine. Doing these things to "make" yourself Japanese? Not so fine.
>>396017 >>395898 well hey, at least it has webms with sound! Now you can feel the full effect of belgrade and ukraine riot videos! And what better place to post them than reviving your old home http://8ch.net/n/index.html ?
>>396361 >Says the person defending white nerds who only get their knowledge of Japanese culture from anime and JRPGs. you are in fucking tears, goddamn. Are you even the legal age to browse that site?
You're talking about doing something in good taste or bad taste, which is a matter of personal TASTE and varies from person to person. And even if someone did something in bad taste, the onus and blame is not entirely on them because we can't say at a glance whether someone is doing something with malice by simply looking at them.
For example, what constitutes "caricaturizing"? Are cornrows on a white girl caricaturizing anything? What if her hair is naturally curly and she's doing cornrows to control it? Is a white person listening to or singing rap songs caricaturizing anything? Does it matter if they're a diehard fan? Is a Kimono worn by a white dude who call himself Jim-san a caricature, if he's actually doing his best to respect and learn about Japanese culture, and is just failing hard because he suffers from autism? Is a cheap $0,50 plastic Jesus figurine a caricature if a nun would still seriously pray in front of it?
You see a girl wearing a Native American headdress at a football game. Is that person culturally appropriating something, or is she trying to get closer to a culture, respect a culture and learn from a culture in the only fucking way she knows how? It's borderline insane to expect everyone to learn about cultures from a book, 99% of people out there learn through experience.
And even if there existed a case of actual "caricaturizing" of a culture such as stereotypical stand up comedy, it still wouldn't automatically be a shitty thing to do because lighthearted making fun of other cultures is part of freedom of expression, and is part of the process by which we accept good ideas or reject bad ones.
>>396368 What are you talking about, I directly addressed it. I questioned your use of caricature to attack anyone not perfectly copying another culture, and your baseless assumption that everything that isn't exactly carried out according to tradition must be out of malice. Go back over it because you obviously didn't read the comment.
Maybe my reply should have been >DOES NOT READ refutation of his entire argument because afraid that any glance would cause entire preconceived house of cards to collapse.
>>396393 The more trollable a community is, the more it's going to get trolled. There are not many communities on the internet more trollable than 4chan in general, and /v/ in particular is particularly susceptible. Probably more than any of the other boards except /b/ and /pol/.
>>396407 They have 2 stickies promoting movie threads on /co/ as the norm, made because people dared to complain movies are neither comics nor cartoons and they don't agree. They are definitely pushing their agenda using their mod power to do so.
>>396408 If there wasn't a sticky, there would be 8-10 threads about Spider-man going to the MCU and you would probably be complaining about those threads then. There is no agenda but what you imagined.
So, I've been away from 4chan for close to four years now, and away from plus4chan for a little less than one--took a break from this place starting about April of 2014. Haven't really been on any discussion imageboards/forums since. On 4chan, I used to primarily post on /co/, and decided to pay a visit.
The catalog function they've got is pretty neat.
There are a couple of very minor things I find slightly irritating that I'm not entirely sure how I feel about, like attractive girls being described as "qt3.14s" and "lol" effectively being replaced with "kek."
The biggest issue that seems to be a thing now that gets on my nerves is probably how often people seem to whine and complain about SJWs. I mean, holy crap. Maybe I just chose bad times to visit, but there was not a single moment that someone wasn't telling someone else to "get the fuck back to tumblr SJW" or something of that nature. I've read some of the comments these people respond this way to, I find that a decent amount of them aren't even really overbearing in terms of political correctness and sometimes are even just neutral observations.
I empathize with people who get irritated with others who insist on being politically correct to the point of being completely insufferable, but am I alone in feeling that it's gotten to the point that these people complaining about overly sensitive people have now become overly sensitive as well?
I noticed a few comments about SJWs above. Is feuding with SJWs a thing on this site now too? What happened while I was gone?
>>396416 Nerd culture in general is going through a protracted Extinction Burst regarding antisocial behavior, and the feuding with SJW's thing is the primary outlet at the moment. It's going to be a thing in most communities that are made up primarily of nerds until they figure out that throwing tantrums isn't going to stop the world from changing.
>>396416 It's not that the "SJWs" are being overly politically correct, it's that they are politically correct at all. Nerds tend to be made up of anarchistic teenagers who don't believe in or even understand censorship or professionalism. They think that if you get even mildly offended by something that could be seen as racist/sexist, you are a whiny baby.
No, it is literally like this on some boards on 4chan all the time. /v/ for example will not shut up about them ever, even when no one said anything about them.
>Is feuding with SJWs a thing on this site now too?
No. Occasionally a retard will find his way to +4 and throw a hissy fit because we don't act like neo-nazis over here. Or that guy who comes in and shills for 8chan for God knows what reason.
Anytime someone uses the term "SJW" non-ironically these days, there's a good chance I just dump the post in the trash bin. All it means anymore is "You're not as bigoted as I am." instead of the old definition fitting internet slacktivists and whatnot.
>>396418 >They think that if you get even mildly offended by something that could be seen as racist/sexist, you are a whiny baby.
Which is true. An adult have no reason to blog about being offended, being offended is puerile at best. Especially when it's about irelevant shit, and when your answer to deal with it is ordering the world to make it illegal.
SFW boards as a concept are fucking retarded. If you're on 4chan at work and you're employed at a place where what you're looking at on the computer is punishable in the first place, you deserve to be punished for it.
>We see you're on 4chan here Mr. Mous. We've heard a lot of bad things about this place in the news and other sources. Hackers, criminals, child porn and the like. >Oh no boss, see, it's OK. The background was BLUE. >Oh well then, carry on.
>>396436 This is such a piffling complaint. Do you genuinely lack the ability to show restraint and not have to sexualize every aspect of your life?
Incidentally, that *is* porn. I know 4chan has developed this idea that porn has to involve fucking or something, but porn only has to have been made with the idea of tittilating the viewer taking more precedent than anything else. That drawing was made with the primary goal of giving people boners: that makes it porn regardless of the content.
>>396436 Well the thing is... sometimes, believe it or not, SOMETIMES people do NOT want to be thinking or talking about porn. I know, it sounds ridiculous; why would anyone ever spend even one waking second NOT masturbating?? No one does that!... right?
But it's true. Sometimes people want to talk about something that is NOT porn, and that is why SFW board exist. Not to viewable at work, but to be free of porn, which derails and distracts.
>>396437 >piffling complaint As are most others in this thread. This is what it's for, ain't it? >genuinely lack the ablah blah sexualize everything in your life I guess as much as you lack the ability to not make grandly assumptive statements.
Your latter statements are laughable. Not only are you yourself using the developed idea of "porn" you accuse me of, but if it were true, then every fast food advertisement and laundry detergent magazine spot would have you agree that you're a legal adult.
>>396438 Here's the people who have no control. If they can't carry on a discourse in the presence of some nipples. My image is about is only implicitly more porny than a Calvin Klein ad on a bus station.
>>396439 >implying /gif/ is ruined. What the people want to post is what they want to see, in that case. FYI2, being on an internet image board at work would land you in hot water in most workplaces too. I'm puzzled as to why it's thought that if you're only breaking a rule 100% instead of 120% you're doing better.
>>396443 Sometimes I think the majority of 4chan thinks they should be completely unaccountable for any of their actions and should never have to follow any sort of rules, laws, etiquette, or social norms. And take it as a direct assault on their liberties when people ask them to act like human beings.
>>396443 Slippery slope there man. Watch your footing or you could fall into the hyperbole hole like >>396444
>>396445 You've overlooked the identifying "...that case." in that statement. Hopefully not purposefully. /gif/ goers wanted porn by and large, most were posting porn, most were coming for the porn. The nonfappers were not stopped from posting their #REKTgore and cute animals animated contrary to what you may think. If they were choked out it's because they weren't what most people cared to see/post there, which is porn!
Another example is /tg/ and the quests and civilizations and shit. Many don't like it being the plaguing constant of the board, but more do or else it wouldn't be there as prominently as it is. Understand?
>>396446 >Another example is /tg/ and the quests and civilizations and shit. Many don't like it being the plaguing constant of the board, but more do or else it wouldn't be there as prominently as it is. Understand? If only 5% want it but they post ten times as often, they'll make 50 out of 145 posts. This isn't an unreasonable discrepancy to expect given the ease with which one may dump porn or write simple commands for a quest rather than compose something in-depth. However, that's ignoring that 4chan is not a democracy. Go somewhere else if you want different rules.
>>396459 Alright, I just get annoyed when people use that reasoning when dodging bans to keep posting porn of /co/.
>>396436 >>396440 >Here's the people who have no control. If they can't carry on a discourse in the presence of some nipples. >being on an internet image board at work would land you in hot water in most workplaces too. If you can carry on discourse, you can do work, and thus it wouldn't be banned from offices.
>>396461 >If you can carry on discourse, you can do work, and thus it wouldn't be banned from offices.
Please help me understand this line of thinking. I'm legit confused. Because I'm pretty sure I can hold discourse with my dick flopping about and a large buttplug in my ass. That doesn't mean I'd be allowed to do it at work.
>>396517 That is still profoundly stupid. Tried again with a .png at around 11:40 am eastern on /pco/:
>The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, [email protected] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. >More information about this error may be available in the server error log. >Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>>396519 JPGs are not currently allowed for starting a thread as an anti-CP-bot measure. PNGs should work fine, though; I see there is a thread with that name, was that the PNG you were trying to upload? If not, can you send the PNG to [email protected] so I can look at it?
There are two known reasons for odd errors when uploading: - File size is larger than Apache file size limit (7MB or so), which takes affect before the board software can check the file size - Total Pixels > x, and i forget what x is right now. But it's a fairly large number so it's only a concern for incredibly large (dimensional) images
>>396581 Mexico has several internationally recognized races of indigenous people, so if they're not referred to as such (Mayan, Otomi, Purepecha, etc) they're usually just referred to as "Indígenas." Aka, straight-up Indigenous.
Not to be confused with the slur "Indio." There's quite a bit of white supremacy goin on here. Maybe not politically, but socially, yeah.
>>396582 >There's quite a bit of white supremacy goin on here. Maybe not politically, but socially, yeah.
That's a little surprising to me. Don't get me wrong, I know there are a lot of caucasion hispanic people, but I would've thought the larger-than-the-US number of non-caucasian hispanics would mean less of a chance for white supremacy to take the fore.
>>396593 Well see, that's the thing. The hispanic-caucasian people are usually reduced to being politically or financially influential people, tv actors or musicians.
Being caucasian is attractive and desireable, people see you and automatically consider you well-off, educated, worldly and such. Which is rare in a country like Mexico, all things considered. You're white? You pretty much have a free pass on being considered a criminal (you'll never have your car stopped for random checks for one), you'll never get denied entry at a night club nor followed at a store to check for shoplifting. That's usually reserved for the straight-up indigenous, than the more common mixed-race. And that's just the inane stuff.
Indigenous or Darker-skinned races are usually erased from media (don't have enough white actors? get some from other countries!) and they're constantly attempted to being erased from social consideration. Its why you might see people from different Mexican cities parading their "predominantly white" population above other places. Hell, even in football where you're rated by performance (and incidentally also includes a mixed or native majority in professionalism) the player's who are more publicized and promoted are white, like Miguel Layun or Guillermo Ochoa.
People say there's no racism in Mexico because "we're all hispanic", ignoring the fact that that's a blanket term used in the US and that there's dozens of races within our native communities. They'd also say that becuase we never actually had slavery as a nation, or because our Baseball league was never segregated. But that's added to the fact that Black is just as cosmopolitan as white in some places. Sports or movie stars, normally.
God, its fucked up. I could go on about this all day.
>>396594 >People say there's no racism in Mexico because "we're all hispanic" A lot of people in America forget (or never knew) that those of Irish descent were treated almost as bad as those of African descent in the early 20th century. Inter-anglo racism is pretty much unheard of these days in America (the worst that regularly happens involves hillbillies.) But, it's not unprecedented for people seen as a "race" by someone of another race to actually have racism for further distinctions of said "race", so the stuff you describe doesn't surprise me at all.
You could write entire books about the inter-nation relations of Asian countries, too.
/v/ shitstorm about the Order 1886 and the fanboys defense force is pretty hillarious, but I fear that those kids are actually serious when they claim stuff like "reviewers didn't play the real game" and such nonsense.
>>396632 Bans on 8chan are board specific, maybe try that.
>>396566 I think the point is that the first nations would have been the south American ancestors, because there were actually four waves of migration into the American continents and the people who call themselves "First Nations" were the second last (old world people were the last).
He's basically being anal about facts, but they ARE facts.
>>396677 I'm checking and it's the catalogue that bugs. Doesn't reflect the thread's place in the normal pages.All 500+ threads seems to get stuck on top while the others are stuck in place after creation. It's weird.
Man, I've been gone from /co/ for a long ass time.
I like Gravity Falls, so I checked out the thread they were having for it on 4chan.
Apparently, Alex Hirsch's girlfriend was there or something and perhaps as a result a bunch of posters went into explicit detail about how they would like to rape him.
She, and some other posters, were not fans of this turn of events, and they were accused of being pussy newfags.
Now I'm no stranger to how fucked up 4chan can be. The first board I frequented was /b/, and that was about 9 years ago. In 2007-08, I discovered /co/ though, and that became my home for a while. When I left /co/ around 2012, it was no longer the harmonious, creative, love-filled nerd-utopia I had first fallen in love with, but it wasn't this either.
It wasn't limited to this thread. When I was there, the overall content of the board more or less seems the same, but the mood, interactions, and hatred towards minorities--not just in regards to recasting white characters as non-whites, but genuinely complaining about black guys and cuckolding, and Asian men being gross micro-penises that no one wants to look at--makes me wonder if it interbred with /b/ at some point.
I mean, complaining about whiny sjws is one thing, but when I was there these just came out of nowhere without justification. What the fuck. Why is there so much /b/ everywhere.
>>396852 >a bunch of posters went into explicit detail about how they would like to rape him Jesus christ what. First time I heard about people on 4Chan wanting to commit male rape. That's pretty fucked up.
>>396859 >Jesus christ what. First time I heard about people on 4Chan wanting to commit male rape. That's pretty fucked up. Is it though? They already treat every woman who admits to being a woman on 4chan that way. If anything they're finally putting their money where their mouth is about treating everyone equally horribly.
>>396835 No, I've been posting here on and off for years. I don't make spam, I report it. I genuinely needed help with something, but since no one here responded, I had to ask someone who basically knows nothing about 4chan, which was kind of a pain.
>>396874 I'm confused. Are you implying that it is a controversial opinion to think that 4chan and /co/ have become shit when you suggest this guy must be Alex for saying so? Because I mean it was my impression that was the majority opinion on plus4chan. Isn't /co/ and 4chan being awful the whole reason we have this board in the first place?
>>396878 Yeah right, 4chan is so good all the time with namefags, remember the vagina cheese incident? And now the fanboys are in damage control to save their waifu honour telling how 4chan is sooooo mean and ruined now.
>>396892 Plus4 was made as an extension of 4chan, not an escape. The especially high activity from tripcode users was getting very annoying, as people would make characters that would interact and have dumb adventures in MS Paint. This site was made both to lighten the load and just to have more /co/ to talk on. Plus4 was a celebration of the site at the time, not a condemnation.
>>396973 the point of protecting the ban page with captcha is because viewing your ban status has to look it up through sql, and the type of people who get banned are the type of people that would automate a script to hammer the ban reason page to attack the site
I'm wondering if it would be worth it for DC to have its website let you actually filter recent comic releases by age rating, since the covers seemingly aren't all that indicative. There does seem to be a for family section that does occasional roundups of comics, but this seems less efficient than tacking another variable on an existing search system. On the other hand, do that many people even visit DC's main website?
>>397024 The market would need to grow first to make it worth it for them, but it's a good idea. Once they get more young readers, they should absolutely revamp their promotional stuff like the website.
At the moment, some Gravity Falls fans are throwing a fit because the mods have taken to deleting all GF threads, the explanation being that it's now on hiatus, everything has been discussed to death, and the threads tend to descend into madness.
I'm not entirely sure how to feel. I was there when the pony insanity got to the point that they needed to be forcibly contained, and maybe that's the underlying fear, but as maddeningly absurd the GF generals get I don't think they're any worse than a lot of the daily rage/bitching about SJW threads that have become a staple of current /co/ so I think they're pretty harmless.
>>397047 Have you seen what the threads are capable of devolving into? I'm not saying that the majority of the posts are shit or that the fans approve of shit, but I just get the feeling that it's hard on the mods, without going into too much detail.
I've heard someone suggest maybe they're worried about overall board quality, but like >>397044 mentioned that's probably not the case given the other kinds of threads that go unchecked.
Anyway, just speaking as someone who absolutely adores the show and loves talking about it but is also familiar with how 4chan-based fandoms can get out of hand, I can't really be upset with this turn of events. I'm not going to say it's fair, but the kinds of topics that emerge when HYPE and MYSTERIES aren't being discussed have a tendency of being facepalm-inducing.
At the same time, the fans are pretty good about staying self-contained in their thread, and with the recent exception of apparently bullying some Wakfu-fans because they get to have generals when GF fans don't, they don't seem to bother anyone. Guh, I'm not really sure how to feel either...
>>397115 The funny thing is that you need that PC/SJW nonsense for this to be funny. Outside of that bubble, the joke barely registers because it's not that funny.
Whor is a just dig at the SJWs and tends to be funniest to the people who hate the new Thor or SJW shit in general. You wanted a joke that never stops being funny? Batman and Dead Parents. That will forever be funny.
>>397134 you're the one who is trying to rewrite history, idiot
where was this crap in 2006? hell, where was it in 2010?
answer: not on EVERY FUCKING BOARD political nutjobbery used to be what /n/ and its successors were about sure, other boards had shitposting, but not your cancerous ideological type now you are dragging it everywhere and calling anyone who doesn't like your garbage enemy agents
I'll take gamefaqs-tier console wars over neo-/v/ any day
>>397137 >If the lowest most common denominator junk doesn't appeal to you, you have a serious problem.
>if you don't like WoW you're not a real gamer >if you don't like Naruto you're not a real anime fan
>>397137 I get the humor in the term Whor. I just don't think it's funny or rather not as funny as you seem to think it is.
>If the lowest most common denominator junk doesn't appeal to you, you have a serious problem. This is probably the dumbest thing I seen in a week. I get that this is one of your favorite jokes but really it's not that funny.
/v/ is shit since BB is out. Mods are actually letting the spam go, and delete posts inside them so the message is pretty clear. Kinda validate the old idea that there's a lot of shills in the team since the last batch of recruiting.
I got fucking permabaned for posting a SFW Star vs the Forces of Evil image done by Simon in a Star vs the Forces of Evil thread and the ban reason is bullshit. I didn't spam anything or evade any kind of filter.
Boy /gd/ sucks. Not because of the regulars. No, they're great. You get good /gd/ talk in.
It sucks because GOD DAMN every day you get a million threads of people asking for free work or free photoshop adobe ids. "Hey, I need someone to make me a logo, kthnx" "Hey I'm making a game and need an artist/designer/ I dont know what games use. Wait why not? I program for free!" Fuck damn it its annoying.
I keep getting "connexion errors" 50% of the time I try to post. Then the second time it works. Is that 4chan or can I start complaining my ISP something is getting wrong? (it's slow as shit by moment, too, and pics don't load)
>>397369 Just because cartoons have anthro animals doesn't mean people should post all those waifushit and cropped porn and other fetishist threads. Also works for fat and muscle and pedo. I'm sick of /co/ forcing that shit on everything. The worst part is that other board easily send bans and permabans for less than this. It's just incomprehensible.
>>397371 I swear 4chan needs to bite the bullet and just make a /r34/ board for western art. Oh course, I doubt they will stop these threads from being made on /co/ since most of the time most of the pics in the threads (the muscle and DBG threads especially) are not even /co/-related.
>The worst part is that other board easily send bans and permabans for less than this. It's just incomprehensible. Because /co/ doesn't have any mods and by that I mean /co/ has no mod that stays on the board like /a/ or /v/. I'm willing to bet that mods from /a/ or /v/ take turns policing the board.
>>397371 >waifushit, cropped porn and other fetish threads Those were all against the rules before the ban (post quality). Also, it's not exclusive to furry (or even more prominent with furry cartoons).
got my first "recognize food" captchas today. I'm disappointed that it's always the same choice, burger, sushi, cakes, bread, soup, coffee, wine. Fells horribly like brainwashing, too. Random words are at least random. This seems like a bad Kraft/Mc Donalds campain.
Now this might sound like a weird question, but I just got infected with Xtab virus while browsing 4chan. So could it be possible 4chan gets infectious ads now or something? My computer was more or less fresh from morning start up, using firefox, one extra tab for tumblr, and nothing else, except maybe flash update in te morning.
>>397423 From what I understand, Windows is just full of holes, and Microsoft does nothing to fix that. It appears that Windows was made from a very old programming language (or something like that), and that is the main reason for susceptibility to viruses.
Also, no matter what OS you use, get NoScript on Firefocks.
Did I get my server hacked? I never did this, and I don't visit 4chan alot, I just got this message when I tried posting.....I posted stuff only in the /y/ board BUT the people where over 21 and they weren't anime characters either! The hell 4chan?! Can I fix this?....
>>397485 >Can I fix this?.... appeal denied, no. change your IP. Are you using a phone? cause phones have dynamic IPs these days so CP posters and other shitposters use their phone, get banned, and refresh their IP to post again. that or you are using a shared IP. Are you at school?
>>397487 I use a laptop, but I'll defiantly do the phone trick. I only goto 4chan to post my art and that's really it.....I'm in college in an apartment dorm. I noticed that the last numbers of the IP address in my WINS Servers were different to what 4chan was telling me. In fact, the last numbers of all my WINS Servers didn't match what 4chan told me.
I'm guessing that changing my IP address at school is impossible? Guess some idiot wanted loli porn and fucked everyone in the dorm.
>>397488 Well there is your problem. Someone else got you b&. I'm fairly sure in a situation like that you share the IP address with multiple people. Check someone else's computer to see if they are also b& if you get the chance.
>>397509 /co/ is so full of politics these days it's unbearable. muh feminism, muh gg, muh tumblr, it never ends. I'm starting to use /co/mblr now unironically cause it's so fuckng true recently. They will bitch and post reblogs at any occasion.
>>397516 >/co/ being pro-feminist/tumblr I find that it's more full of people bitching about these topics than actually supporting them. There is not a single moment of any day that people are not ranting about feminism, cuckolding, and SJWs, and it's usually without any real kind of provocation. I mean, seriously, I just saw a thread about the Peanuts movie derail into /b/-levels of racism because Franklin was VISIBLE in the trailer. Not a focus, merely peripherally visible, and everyone went completely apeshit that a black character who is not a main focus should even be given any attention and interpreting that as part of the SJW agenda to forcibly diversify everything. But it is unbearable, regardless.
The reason that political correctness has become so abhorred nowadays is because it's become synonymous with being oversensitive to the point of being suffocating. The thing that kills me is that so many of the people who oppose this kind of idiocy have essentially become the very thing they hate without realizing it. I have no love for SJWs, but the people that whine about them have become so overly sensitive about interpreting any instance of diversity or tolerance as being overly PC that it just boggle my mind. And this feuding with each other keeps escalating. So it's like everywhere you go there are just idiots being idiots, and trying to fix the problem by being even louder idiots.
It seems as though there aren't any people left in that rational, patient middle ground. I mean, every now and then I see one, and they get bashed to pieces because people have become so black and white in their thinking that they're perceived as "supporting the other side" or whatever.
It's not just /co/ either. Any predictions on when this is going to die down, if ever?
>>397518 >I find that it's more full of people bitching about these topics than actually supporting them. There's both side at war, that's the issue. You get attacked for every posts. People are even "triggered" by stuff like "you are retarded" and will unironically go on rant with "as a XXX who suffered YYY myself", it's unbearable. Even harmless webcomics threads have become poisonous.
>>397522 I think the problem is one side's a bunch of kids who're living in this decade's LJ and DA, and the other side isn't. There's a rationality to the whole Progressiveness in Media part, there isn't to the idea of No Progressiveness Anywhere.
>>397521 I didn't phrase that correctly, but wasn't sure what else to call it. I just meant people that are capable of objectively separating actual offenses from things like "I heard somewhere that Alex Hirsch thinks gays should be allowed to get married Gravity Falls is ruined for me and he can fuck off back to tumblr fuck this show forever"
>>397522 >There's both side at war, that's the issue. Agreed. Although, perhaps I don't go on /co/ often enough these days--not that I want to anymore than I already do--but I haven't seen "both sides" in recent history.
There's the Peanuts example I mentioned earlier, and the other day I looked at some thread that somehow got derailed into just shitting on Asian men. Someone posted "come on guys, I wanna talk about comics, not about how Asians are scum" and was promptly told by everyone to fuck off back to tumblr. There also seem to be daily feminist hate threads, usually in response to some SJW-type happenings in the media, a tweet, or questionable casting in a movie or something, but I don't really see many strong SJW opinions originating on /co/ itself.
But is that what you mean by "both sides?" Again, I don't go on very often these days, and I also took a break from the board for about three years prior, so maybe I'm missing something. Backlash this strong against any group doesn't come from nowhere, and someone mentioned that the board was overrun by SJWs sometime in that period.
>>397527 >But is that what you mean by "both sides?" The Frank Cho recent Threads for instance. People don't even have to reblog tumblr, people actually come and attack him directly in the threads. Used to be ironic and sarcastic, but nowaday it's way too automatic and way to persistent. Same with the new Squirrel girl comic, where people don't make the difference between art and artist and take offense of misogyny just because the art is horrible.
>>397533 >>397536 No, see but that's the thing. On the one hand, we have a comics and cartoons board who's on-record for being vitriolic, especially towards industry personalities and certain 'hot topic' pieces of work. /co/ is consistent at having hostile dialog regarding its subject matter, motive notwithstanding.
But on the other hand, you have unrelated subject being taken towards. Race and sex and gender and such, and even the slightest deviation from White Straight Male is considered pandering or, to borrow a term, problematic. And its across media. From the heavy metal scene to mainstream films, and I don't even want to graze the subject of the most infamous example. Even the /co/ creation and webcomic making threads, the only ones I even visit anymore, if you in some cases take on the subject of writing a black, gay, trans or whatever character, these remarkably slow threads start to rail on the topic at hand.
and then you have the ironic shitposters, but fuck me do people take those into account way too much
>>397522 >There's both side at war, that's the issue. 95% of posts that act "pro-SJW" are the most blatant lazy trolls in the world, and only morons who absolutely want to believe they're being attacked willingly dumb themselves down to believe it's real.
Frank Cho is a manchild but that's nothing new, and disagreeing with him doesn't make somebody an SJW unless you're specifically framing it as us vs them.
>>397550 >95% of posts that act "pro-SJW" are the most blatant lazy trolls in the world This is wrong. Believing everything is trolling and thus "normal" is how they get there and stay forever. Just because people are stupid doesn't make them trolls. You don't expect a sjw to be smart, and it show. Again, checking the Frank cho threads on /co/ gives a good view of that new kind of posters that don't even hide why they are there (aka, shitpost because they hate someone).
>>397555 Regardless of whether or not these people are trolls, they are nevertheless outnumbered by the sheer amount of backlash that they generate. I've had to deal with a lot of SJW bullshit in my life. Trolling or not, I'm not really seeing much of it on /co/. I'm just seeing a lot of people that seem to think that they're overrun with SJWs. I'm not saying SJW bullshit isn't elsewhere, because it definitely is, but a bunch of anons working themselves into a rage because they somehow interpret every pro-tolerance message or even the non-pandering, peripheral recognition of certain demographics as a personal attack on them by SJWs doesn't actually make these things SJW attacks.
>>397527 >the other day I looked at some thread that somehow got derailed into just shitting on Asian men. Someone posted "come on guys, I wanna talk about comics, not about how Asians are scum" and was promptly told by everyone to fuck off back to tumblr. This has been pretty much my experience. A lot of times it doesn't even feel like bigots arguing with SJWs as much as bigots being triggered by anything less bigoted than them.
Maybe I was just on /co/ at the wrong times--though what isn't a wrong time these days--but the Frank Cho threads that I've seen were either giving him kudos or if they were bashing him, they were doing so for milking the conflict for more attention.
>>397555 >Believing everything is trolling and thus "normal" is how they get there and stay forever. If you really think >Frank Cho triggers me, I'm a paperkin and his drawing ink on fellow paper makes him a racist is an actual SJW thing you really gotta re evaluate your poisition.
>>397575 >Personally, his "witty" banter makes his characters hollow. That's extremelly shallow and hollow to say. Very vague too, I guess it's easy for you to start dacing aroung the point with such a start.
>>397557 >>Frank Cho triggers me, I'm a paperkin and his drawing ink on fellow paper makes him a racist >is an actual SJW thing you really gotta re evaluate your poisition. You can't tell "if you think' to people when quoting your own fabricated fanfics.
>>397575 To be fair /co/ didn't like Whedon before they went full-tilt MRA. He used to get bashed for his bad dialog and characterization, they just forgot any legitimate criticism when they found out they could yell SJW all day long and get jerked off for it.
>>397555 >This is wrong. Believing everything is trolling and thus "normal" is how they get there and stay forever. See >only morons who absolutely want to believe they're being attacked willingly dumb themselves down to believe it's real.