/baw/ - General Discussion

I'll answer the OP question later, but right now I'm going to speak my mind like I came here to do.

For some reason when I try to fantasize sexually about a real person, I always end up fantasizing about something bad that I don't actually want to happen. One day, I want to kiss a girl so hard that I faint on her (fun times for all), another day I imagine that she was raped and me beating up and prosecuting the guy who did it. I always spoil the moment to ask if she has an STI and without a doubt I will say or do something stupid or awkward that I wouldn't dream of IRL. I don't want for us to get injured, I don't want to become a blubbering, nervous beta when she decides to be adventurous, and I don't want for some SJW in the cubicle next door to rudely interrupt us and whine about thin privilege only for me to have to tell her she is delusional, mid-coitus. I just tried fantasizing right now and three seconds in, I think 'and then her mum comes in'. It's like a part of my brain wants the other parts to spaghetti out in some act of self-depreciative schadenfreude. I don't have any humiliation/sub/etc. fetishes (occasional femdom is the closest fetish I have to it) and I don't enjoy this weird habit at all.

Back to the OP, 2014 has been pretty good. Among other things, I have improved greatly in art (even if it is still dA-tier), started trying to sort out a persistent health issue that I keep bringing up in these threads, have strengthened some friendships and made new ones, manned up and asked out the new girl who is out of my league, started using the gym's weights room (although going to the gym one time a week isn't doing much), gotten a new part-time job and work experience starting in the next two weeks, am going surprisingly well in NoFap. It should probably create its own thread like in old /baw/, improved my social life in general, and discovered another great cartoon.

If any of you fuckers say you achieved nothing positive, you are a dirty liar. Even if some bad shit happened, you must have achieved something worthy of admiration.

My 2104 has been average.

Not that nothing happened, but really good things happened and then so did really bad things so they balanced out to create average

I miss comrade. I had some pretty radically different views from her, especially seeing as how I've been straightedge most of my life, but she was a pretty cool dude. I don't have any other chef friends, I don't know who to talk about recipes with anymore :(

I've had a decent 2014 now that I think about it. Lots of moving forward with my own art, forward with therapy, and finally getting some decent money as a freelancer.

You know what, 2014 as a whole was pretty great! The good far far outweighs any bad.
2013 was pure putrid shit was what.

>>394789
I can't prove you exist, Twister.

Are you real?

//youtube.com/watch?v=HdrORwZzlBk

We where fools not to take this game more seriously. FOOLS!

http://www.clickhole.com/splitpic/where-did-these-daddies-go-1474

I love Clickhole so much.

I wonder if it would be possible to stop your head from producing oil for the hair and preventing greasy hair altogether. Or if that would be such a bad thing.

>>394797
Being born with better genes is your only option. I wasn't very lucky.

I PASSED THE BAR!!! I'm still not officially a lawyer because of the other stuff, but the hardest part is over!

>>394800
Congratulations!

>>394800
Congrats!

So I've been on Venlaflexin ER for about two months now and therapy for almost as long. Both seem to be having a very positive effect and I feel much better overall. I've only had one "down" in the past three weeks and it lasted only two days or so, when in the past it would last many more days and come and go about once a week.

It's not enough of a change to really get me moving in doing things like becoming more social or going to a different, better job, but I am more assertive in general and slowly getting some smaller tasks done that I've put off for forever.

>>394825

Glad things are going better for you Autony! Just take it one day at a time.

You guys saw Interstellar, right?
Am I wrong for having actually liked it?

Yeah, I admit the story has some problems, but they always maintained the emotional gravitas to the film which is super essential to any story - and the science was actually well researched for sci fi.
There's a scene based on an actual event that happened to Buzz Aldrin and people are calling it unrealistic?
Then people take literally any scene with anything they found irksome and they keep citing "Nolanisms" and such to discredit the guy?

Like
????

>>394837
Everyone I've talked to liked it. One even said it was the best movie he's ever seen.
I haven't seen it yet, though.

In other news, I threw up last night into a full paper-bin. Feeling better now.

>>394839
>One even said it was the best movie he's ever seen.
You know what, I can totally understand that.

I got rope-a-doped into signing a contract I shouldn't have. And now I'm having a massive anxiety attack.

I find it funny how whenever I get super feelgood about stuff and start going all "Oh man, the world is great, I love all of yous" people get all worried about me thinking I'm super depressed again.

I'm not. I'm feeling good, people.

So if anyone sees me getting like that, please understand I really do mean it when I say I feel good.
I'm enough of a crybaby to let the whole world know otherwise.

Wow, fuck you, lady, now you care what I think?

>>394826
>>394831
Thanks!

>>394853
Depending on circumstances surrounding the signing, you may not be legally bound to it. See thee a lawyer.

Aaaah fuck America.

Time to go without internet for a month.
And no, don't fuck America. Fuck the exact people that let this happen. Because America is the people who would stand against it too.
Otherwise, it sounds like an admission of defeat.
Good luck and Godspeed.

As a possible aside to this story my ABC station instead of showing the late night news that normally plays from 1 AM to 5 AM is playing country music instead.

Yeah.

>>394868
Fuck you. And fuck America.

That's the system.
That's America.

Not the disenfranchised.
But the people who wear a uniform with the flag.

>>394870
All who live in it take the name. It is the whole. It's the grand and the meek. It is the good and the evil. For better and worse, everything in America is America. Being personally selective like that does absolutely nothing but hide the hurt. It's easy to blanket blame, but it isn't fair, it isn't right, and it isn't logical.

We can't act on pain and bitterness. Stand strong and move forward with reason and compassion. Because that's the only true way to end hate and oppression.

I'm sick to the stomach by what happened. I hate the fact that police have so much power and protection. I hate the fact that they can end lives with little to no consequence. I hate that they can call in a heavily armed force to silence protest under the guise of concern. I hate that S.W.A.T. teams exist.

But I can't let that hate command me. And I can't blame people who aren't involved.

Nøpe,

Nope. Fuck you and your pseudo deep shit.

These discussions are always silly because when someone says something like "Fuck America" they aren't literally talking about every single American.

They're saying fuck this place and the people who let it get this way. Don't get into this semantics stuff because it's silly. You know they aren't talking about every single American (and if you do, get your hyperbole sensors checked) and arguing this point is doing nothing to forward the discussion.

I am an American, born and raised. I take no offense to his "Fuck America" comments. And neither should you.

>>394872
Well, let me understand your point of view.
What exactly are you upset with me about? What have I said that you disagree with and why?

I am willing to listen. And I'm willing to be wrong.

>>394873
>(and if you do, get your hyperbole sensors checked)
Yeah, well, maybe I should.

I still don't think it's the right thing to say. It just sounds so defeatist.

>>394868
#notallamericans

>>394875
>It just sounds so defeatist.
That's because this IS a defeat.

>>394876
Yeah, I never really got this #notallX shit.
I don't think it's right to generalize like that. Why use a term for an entire group if you're only really targeting a few?

>>394878
If it really were just a few, this literally would not happen, nøpe.
Come the fuck on.

>>394879
Relatively speaking, it is. And even if it isn't, it's still implies blame on people that had nothing to do with it. It's a term that encompass the entire country anon. When you say America, you mean America. Same with any group.
So, I'll ask again in clearer wording:

Why use a term for a whole if you're only really targeting a portion?

I find that it's the same sort of base ideology that breeds bigotry in the first place, and that's dangerous to get yourself caught up in that.

Right. 3:00 AM was not a good time to have this discussion.

...Soooo what happened?

>>394878
>>394880
Did I not just explain to you how these semantic arguments don't push forward the conversation? You're seriously going to sit here and keep on posting this BS after I explained that poster wasn't literally saying "Fuck all Americans"?

You aren't helping the discussion. No one here is saying "Fuck every last person in America." The person who said that probably IS American. I don't even know why you continued to go down this route when it was already explained to you in clear terms what he meant.

>>394882
Cops murdering folks again and getting away with it. You know, just another day in the USA.

>>394878
>Yeah, I never really got this #notallX shit.
It means you are turning someone else's venting session into a discussion about your feelings. "Everything has to be about me and my feelings." When someone else is victimized and complaining about the bad things that a group is guilty of, and you as a member of that group feel the need to say "I don't think it's fair to blame all members of GROUP X," you are trying to make the conversation about you. And it is a really shitty thing to do.

>>394885
And sorry if this sounds harsh, but there's a reason you're getting the response that you are. It's because there's an important issue to discuss here, and it's not "People are being unfair to America."

When you try to turn it around and police language (police may be a strong term here, but you understand what I'm saying) it acts as a derailment. Especially when it was explained to you why.

>>394887
>you as a member of that group feel the need to say "I don't think it's fair to blame all members of GROUP X," you are trying to make the conversation about you

Remember, if GROUP X happens to have the moral high ground by default, then #notallX is a valid argument and not derailment. Disagreement with the former statement will result in bears.

I got out of the contract. I'm so glad.

>>394887
>It means you are turning someone else's venting session into a discussion about your feelings.
A statement which relies on the presumption that the conversation started as and is in an appropriate place for a venting session to begin with. Which in this case is sort of true, though SYM is everyone's venting session and thus already about anyone's feelings.

Killer Mike fucking nailed it.

//youtube.com/watch?v=MQs7CWKHM9w

>>394885
>>394885
>You're seriously going to sit here and keep on posting this BS after I explained that poster wasn't literally saying "Fuck all Americans"?
I get that dude. I get that he's probably American and I get that he's venting. But I am saying, what you mean and what you say don't match up when you start talking hyperbole like that. That is the point I am making. That's the point I've been trying to make sense I started. It's the only direction my discussion has been about.

This situation is fucking terrible, but I am so fucking tired of people using blanket statements like that and justifying it with "Oh I didn't mean it literally". It should not be that difficult to say what you mean. Do you not see that it doesn't help? Do you not see how it leads to the same issues of bigotry and ignorance that only lead to more hate?
This isn't about semantics, it's about base clarity and meaning what you actually say.

If you want, I'll just drop the subject here and now. I've ranted and you've probably heard enough of it.

>>394904
OH MY FUCKING GOD
HE WASN'T BEING LITERAL YOU GOD DAMN ASPIE.

Jesus christ.

>am male for future reference
>outside walking down the road to class
>pass by Saudi student
>we have a lot of Saudi and Japanese foreign exchange students here
>stares at me as I walk by
>glance at him, give him a nod in a "sup?" sort of way
>glance after walking a bit more, he's still staring
>keep walking and almost clear building, glance again, still staring in an almost predatory way
>out of corner of my eye, see he's turning and walking in my direction
>he's following me, start powerwalking
>he continues to follow me and keep up through the parking lot
>confront him where there are people watching
>me: "hey, um, are you following me?"
>he barely speaks english
>him: "oh...no sir"
>me: "oh, it just seemed like you were"
>asks me for my number
>me: "excuse me?"
>him: "am I can be have of your phone number?"
>asks it softly, gives me a smile
>oh my god, he's fucking hitting on me
>me: "oh I don't give that information out, sorry man"
>him: "oh...ok"
>starts walking back to where he was going
>nope the fuck out of there

Now, I'm not entirely sure if he was actually hitting on me, since something like this has never happened to me before, but I can't think of any other explanation, since I'm a pretty feminine-looking dude save for facial hair. I think I know what tumblr girls mean now when they say things like "raping me with his eyes".

>>394918
That dude is fucking creepy and thirsty.

>No, I am not following you.
>btw lemme get them digits boi ;)

>I think I know what tumblr girls mean now when they say things like "raping me with his eyes".

Sad thing is, women probably go through that shit a ton. I felt uncomfortable reading your story. Can only imagine how many more women have.

Oop. Found a razor in my tire. I guess now is a good time as any to learn how to change it out.

Thinking back, my 2014 has actually been pretty great. Like, there weren't any major events that made me happy, but thinking about things I've actually got my shit together now. I actually have a plan for my future now and so far it's been going really well, so that's nice. Got over the last bits of my depression throughout the year, and now I never really think about it anymore. Which feels crazy when I type it out, because it wasn't really THAT long ago when I thought such a thing would never be possible.

So yeah, 2014 has been really good for me.

Haven't updated my fanfiction in forever though so I feel bad about that. This is such a stupid fucking problem to have, but when something like this is the most of my worries, I guess that's a pretty good sign.

I'm getting married in less than 48 hours.

>>394891
Good for you! Do you mind explaining what it was?

>>'Fuck America' conversation
I don't see how America is responsible for a cop (but then again I don't know [nor care] much about what happened).

The cops over here are bro-tier. Two caught me and my friends ticket evading (the gates were open so we didn't bother tapping on) and just told us to go back instead of giving a $500 fine. Another bunch found me and a group with realistic but fake guns (for acting for his videos. note that they are completely illegal to possess, even in private) and didn't even make a big deal. They just got the director's name and checked all the guns to makes sure they were fake, and told us to call the cops before we filmed next time.

>>394892
Agreed. This thread isn't about Ferguson (make your own thread for that if you want), it's about speaking your mind.

>>394924
Thank god, maybe you'll finally stop coming here.

>>394926
Don't forget, I'm here forever.

>>394925
>I don't see how America is responsible for a cop

Well first off, things like institutional racism have been allowed to prosper in this country.

Second off, and I can't believe this has to be said again, no one is referring to literally every American. I'm not even trying to be mean here, but are you people native English speakers? Because if you are, you're being kinda dense here and deflecting the issues people are talking about just to nitpick about someone's method of speaking.

If you think something is linguistically off about someone's statements, that doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand. Bringing it up when someone is trying to talk about the issue just makes you look silly.

Let's use this as an example to show you how silly you're being. You decide to go shopping on Black Friday. You encounter a number of pissy people, from customers to store employees. When you get back to your place, you say, "Damn, it's crazy out there. Everyone is so pissy today!" and your roommate responds, "Well, I'm sure EVERYONE wasn't being pissy."

You aren't forwarding the conversation. You're nitpicking when you knew exactly what was meant. You're trying to tell a story about many people on Black Friday are being unpleasant and your roommate decides to ignore that story for the sake of policing language, in spite of the fact that only a total fucking moron would assume you meant EVERY SINGLE PERSON outside that day.

>>394927
>Bet you're not black!

You'd likely win that bet.

>>394924
Congrats!
Hoping the best for you!
Btw, I've seen comrade's fb and she's been fine.

>>394930
>Btw, I've seen comrade's fb and she's been fine.

Now tell us where Moe is.

Then tell him to come back to us.

>>394930
>Btw, I've seen comrade's fb and she's been fine.
Isn't she, like, a super racist now?

>>394931
He's on the fb /co/ group (formerly administrated by Mr. B, who was kicked for it because he's Mr. B) and it's derivatives. I'll tell him your message as well.

>>394932
Huh? Not that I know.

>>394927
I actually am black and living in Canada. It's stupid how everyone brings race into this. A black man shoots a black man? 'Shit happens'. A white man shoots a white man? 'Shit happens'. An Asian shoots an Arab? 'Who cares?'. A black man shoots a white man? 'Justice'. But when a white man shoots a black man, all hell breaks loose. It's not a racial issue; it's a police brutality issue.

I'm just pulling your leg. I'm a pasty-ass motherfucker who doesn't believe anything he just wrote.

>>394929
>no one is referring to literally every American
INCLUDING ME! I'm using it in the exact same way as the first poster was, I just think that instead of raging at the state of the country or a few people in the country, he should be blaming the cop who did it, not a group. It's like if a friend got beaten by a bully at school, and then I said "FUCK CANADA!".

I agree with your first point, though. Racism is still a big issue over there.

//youtube.com/watch?v=5p56igk63es

MST3K Turkey Day Marathon starts at noon. Before then enjoy Manos: The Hands of fate on loop.

>>394939

FUCK YEAH.

Keep circulating the tapes…

>>394939
it's on!

>SJW friend I unfollowed on Facebook is now PMing me to join her in praying for the deaths of Darren Wilson and all the police in Ferguson (is that even halal?)
Sigh... I'm as disappointed with the verdict as anyone else but again I'm the type who doesn't see eye-for-eye vengeance or hatred as a solution. I'm half tempted to call her racist for assuming I'm Muslim just because I'm Indonesian, but I'm really not in the mood for another fight right now, especially not on Thanksgiving. And I feel like unfriending her will cause more trouble than it's worth. The best I can do right now is pretend I never saw it. Sage for everyone else sick of Ferguson BS.

>there are people here who seriously think the verdict was wrong and that the cop killed an innocent man, despite all evidence toward the contrary

I've had it with this stupid fucking SJW-chan. I'm out.

seriously what happened to having a separate politics thread, i just want to read about people's bowl movements without needing to filter though the /new/ information

>>394948
bowel. I meant bowel. Same thing, really

>>394947

>there are people who don't understand the difference between a verdict and an indictment
>fortunately, they're leaving

>>394948
I had some cereal today, if that helps.

>>394947
And nothing of value was lost.

>>394948
This. We should make a SYM: Politics Edition that runs separately from here. Also, I took the weirdest shit just now.

I like visiting my parents and all, but I just hate the traveling. It's always such a fucking hassle.

Can someone make it so JPEGs can be used to start a thread, or is that some sort of security feature or something?

>>394956
>or is that some sort of security feature or something?
It's exactly that. Either we spend the few extra seconds to convert the OP pic we want into .png or we get spammed by CP bots. I personally prefer the first option.

>>394957

Hey, no problem at all, just wanted to be sure.

Thanks, Stone.

>>394951
It does, thank you. Have you guys ever had the Malt-o-Meal cereals from Walmart? They're delicious, I actually prefer their cinnamon toaster things to actual Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

>>394959
Malt o Meal Fruity Pebbles ruined Post Fruity Pebbles for me, they're so much better.

>Share office with outgoing female co-worker
>Other female co-worker comes in
>Both are fairly chill
>They start talking about NaNoWriMo
>Other co-worker says she still has 8 thousand words and world building to do
>I comment that she should just copy 50 Shades of Grey to get it over with
>Her and office-sharing co-worker start talking about the bad picture it paints of bondage
>Outgoing co-worker starts talking about an "anime erotica" she ones saw with fairies and squirrels, can't remember the title of it
>Have to bite my tongue from saying "Bondage Fairies"
Yeeeaaahhhh... even considering that they were the ones talking about it, and all I did was mention 50 Shades of Grey, I'm pretty sure that revealing such knowledge would have made things rather awkward...

>>394959
I've recently started checking out some Chocolate Frosted Flakes with Marshmallows.
That shit is damn good.

Do any of you guys know any good business simulation games?
I remember learning a lot from Lemonade Tycoon when I was in primary school so I could use a quick refresher!

>>394970
Consider yourself lucky. For a lot of people it's just the worst thing. Going full loner for the rest of my life is starting to look more and more like it should be Plan A rather than the back-up.

>>394972
Game Dev Tycoon is pretty highly rated but I've never tried it myself. You might want to look into it.

>>394973
Loner is working pretty nicely for me.
Just remember to be respectful of other people and you're set!
Otherwise, you'd be a scumbag. Asshole + Loner isn't a combo you want to partake in.

For those what give a damn, TGFB is back (tgfb.us).

My life 6 months ago and my life now are so radically different that it's bizarre. I don't think I've ever experienced so much change in so little time. All I can hope is that the next 6 months are peaceful.

>>394980
Oh nice. You guys got some pretty ok porn there.

Dear /baw/,

I hate myself.
And I'm okay with that.

I just wish other people hated me too.

>>394983
Fuck you.

There, you're welcome. Bitch.

>>394983
Aheh. Boy, I have been there.
I think the best thing I can say is to Not act on those feelings - don't act on the urge to get people to hate you.
You'll wind up getting what you want, and not wanting it after a while.

Just hang in there. Thats not really you talking.

>>394988
Hehe. That is amusing.

I will very occasionally have truly wonderful dreams. They'll have strange art styles and people who actually seem to care, and it's really the only time I feel comfortable in my own skin and now I'm crying a bit and angry and I don't know.

>>394990
well... Hey. Tell me more about it, anon? How would you describe the art? Do you know any real world artist that works that way?

I used to be super into learning about dreams and all that dream science stuff as an early teenager. So dreams like that are fascinating to me! Most of my dreams were based around memories and places I've been to. I'd occasionally get something with an interesting premise and architecture.
But that's as far as I'd go with art in dreams!

Seems like an interesting subject!

You know how fashion trends and stuff are said to always go in cycles? When do we get the powdered wigs back? That shit was hilarious.

Looks like Hanukkah ends on Christmas eve this year. Neat.

>>395003
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tvtropes/the-tv-tropes-revitalization-project
The thing is, that "Thematic Relationships" thing is actually a good idea that I've been hoping someone would use TV Tropes as a springboard for for a long time. It could be the basis for the TV/Movie equivalent of the Music Genome Project that lead to Pandora.

>>395003
Didn't watch it and refuse to. The site is perfectly fine without some bullshit remodeling.

Clearly TVtrope's formatting problems would be easily solved by transferring the site to gopher.

you know what's super irritating

when someone tells you they're going to do something and then like an hour later changes their mind without telling you until you ask

and it happens constantly, over everything from whether they're going to visit their parent next weekend or if we're going to do something together later

CONSTANTLY

it's so fucking annoying and i've called you out and you still don't understand and it's fucking ridiculous

WOW
FUCK AMERICA

FOR REAL THIS TIME

>>395037
...

I'M MAD

It feels like nothing can hold my interest anymore. I'm not unhappy or anything, but I don't really feel invested in stuff. There's nothing I can be genuinely passionate about.

Meh.

people keep posting depression symptoms in this thread and im growing concerned

>>395043
That's how I was a few months ago. If you can, I urge you to see a doctor. I'm on Venlafexin now and, while I'm not at my height, I'm enjoying things I was already doing a lot more.

It could also just be boredom. Try looking into other hobbies or entertainment you might not have considered before.

>>395044
Welcome to +4

god DAMN my dad's a passive aggressive douchebag.

Friendly reminder that I hate life and would not mind dying all of a sudden.

Oh my god, Plus4chan fits in my browser.

>>395068
Friendly reminder that I love life and would not mind dying all of a sudden.

I need you all to be less wary of mole people invading your brain waves. Can you do that for me?

I made the best lasagna I've ever eaten.
But I made way too much of it and now I don't know what to do with it. I'm not sure it'll keep for four days, because that's how long it'd take me to eat it all.

>>395105
Portion it out and wrap each portion fairly tight in plastic wrap. It will hold for those four days in a good fridge.

You could also freeze half the portions, but the frozen ones might be a bit soggy if they're not packaged well.

So I think I'm going to ask her out this week.

I don't need advice precisely, but I'm so nervous. I've asked girls out before (and been rejected) so I know it's not the end of the world if she says "no." But she's become special to me over the time we've been friends. And there's been a lot on her mind lately, so I'm worried about throwing more on the pile....but she's started dating again. And if I wait until things are "perfect" before saying something, I'm going to be waiting forever.

Wish me luck.

>>395109
Go get her tiger.

I don't understand the deal with women and being cryptic. Girl asks guy out and he refuses, he straight up tells her he's just not interested in her. Guy asks girl out and she refuses, she lies and tells him she'll be busy that night. God.

>>395112

Most men don’t have to worry about getting sexually assaulted by a woman if they blow her off.

>>395114
Doubt a potential assailant would care much if a women is busy that night or not. Unless by assault you mean verbally pestering by a dumb guy who thinks they just need to be persistent.

>>395106
>>395107
I solved the problem by just asking a friend with an appetite to eat the rest with me.

>>395115
I dunno, dude. Most guys get pretty aggressive if you don't want any interaction because of THEM.
You gotta be "oh, man this is a genuine dilemma! but I have a previous engagement, but don't worry - its not because of you!"

>>395115
>pestering by a dumb guy who thinks they just need to be persistent.

Pretty sure this is the main problem. I've known plenty of girls who have had to deal with annoying guys who wouldn't stop texting them. It wasn't full on stalking or anything, but still. So I don't blame girls for being evasive, but it does suck for those of us who actually know how to handle rejection. I'd rather be told no than be left hanging not sure if I have chance or not.

>>395120
>Most guys
What sample size are we talking here? Because I'm pretty sure that's actually not the case for "most guys".

I want to kill each and every person around me.

I mean, literally. I am not going to be happy until I have a knife and am stabbing the shit out of everyone who's done me wrong.

>>395124
>What sample size are we talking here? Because I'm pretty sure that's actually not the case for "most guys".
Let me guess: YOU wouldn't do it.

>>395109
So I told her how I felt. She took it well, but didn't give a hard "yes." So I'm taking it as a soft "no." But then again some of the things we talked about afterward made it almost feel like she was thinking about it. So I'm left a little confused about the whole thing.

But at least it didn't make things awkward between us. We're still friends, and nothing's really changed between us in how we act. That was my biggest worry about coming clean.

>>395144
Trying to complete my Bachelor of Education.

RE: Women lying when not wanting to date you.

It doesn't matter that YOU'RE not a rapist. The idea is that she has no idea if you are or not. Don't take it personally and keep it moving. It's not a personal attack on your character. She does it to help protect herself. And before you get defensive and say, "But I'm nice! Like actually nice!" consider how many rapists actually come off or try to come off as genuinely nice people.

I'm also a genuinely nice person who would not assault a woman. But I don't take the rejection personally because I know it's less about me and more about the possibilities of what could happen. And as it stands, some dudes tend to get super violent and aggressive when they're simply told no.

>>395122
>I'd rather be told no than be left hanging not sure if I have chance or not.

Same here. But that's for a perfect world, and we live far from it.

>>395174

>It doesn't matter that YOU'RE not a rapist. The idea is that she has no idea if you are or not.

Schrödinger’s Rapist.

>>395177
That's actually a very good way to describe it.

>>395174
I'm not blaming her for what she's doing, but it's annoying when I have no idea if I should continue pressing to see if she really is just busy, or drop it altogether. It seems like an obvious soft no to her, but it's not obvious at all.

>>395179
Don't press, especially in situations where you've made it abundantly clear you want to date. The ball is in her court.

>>395179
The whole idea is to keep you from further pressing the issue to begin with, so pressing the issue for a slightly different reason sounds like an undesired response.

>>395179
Once is a bummer, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern. If you've been rejected three times, even if it's only a "I'm busy then" rejection, take it as a full rejection. At that point if she were really interested she would offer an alternative suggestion.

//youtube.com/watch?v=llmgFZz3Iio
This is what happens when you let the internet loose in real life.

I'm so disappointed in myself

>>395197

Y’know, I know the concept of furries and what they’re into and all is amusing on some level, but nineteen people were hospitalized due to an intentional chemical attack and alls they can do is laugh at the hobby those people share?

Fuck them. Fuck them all.

>>395207
To be fair, the guy on the right didn't seem to be a total prick and tried to actually cover the story. This is the price of the news media presenting this shit as entertainment.

>>395207
Yeah. People being seriously injured is tragic, no matter their fetishes.

I think the shot of her running away could be used in the same way of the "Survivor" gif that labels the three people "Normal", "Internet", "4chan". Gal is "Normal", dude trying to play it straight is "Internet", and dude laughing is "4chan"

Welp, I drank half a 1.75L bottle of vodka (not in one sitting).
I really wanted to make peppered Vodka and Tomato vodka (with real tomatoes).
Now I'm gonna have to buy a new bottle.

"Why does she keep being evasive rather than just tell me no?"
They want you to choose, voluntarily, to retract your offer without them having to tell you no or make excuses, at all. Why? What on earth do they hope to gain from this pointless gesture? I can hear you ask. It makes no sense. A simple no would be direct, absolute and would send you on your merry way. No fuss, no ambiguity, no uncertainty.

Because they simply do not want to be remembered as someone that told you no.

>>395213
>Why? What on earth do they hope to gain from this pointless gesture?

It's not pointless. Read my response somewhere above. Some men don't react well to rejection, with it sometimes getting violent. They have no idea if you are one of the violent ones or not.

Just take it as a lesson and learn to see the cues in the future. It's frustrating initially, but it's not a huge deal at all and totally understandable.

>>395197
Wh why did she run away.
Did they tell her about the orgy thing?
Did they straight up drop the CSI on her?

>>395209
I don't know your opinion, but I'm sure pedophiles wouldn't get much sympathy from the public.
>inb4 'molester vs pedophile'

>>395216
That question was hypothetical. I stated the answer in my post.

>>395221
Difference being one of those fetishes is harmful.

A friend of mine is a scriptwriter. We used to go out frequently with our other friends and talk about writing conventions and movie ideas and movies/tv shows we saw.
Now one of them's becoming pretty famous, since they (deservedly) finally got a thing greenlit after working hard for a pretty long time.
But they're networking now and maybe its because I'm an insecure baby but I feel like if I don't do something I'll be forgotten and replaced by their new friends and

>>395221
Adding to the conversation there, Mr. I-can-think-of-exceptions-to-things.

I cannot express in words how good it feels to take a giant poop. Even if the act itself is quite painful, it's like my entire body releases all pressure at once after it's over. I feel a million times lighter, more awake, more flexible, everything just seems better. It's my anti-krytptonite, my Senzu bean, my Scooby Snack.

I just wish I knew how to make it happen more often/on command, cause the time leading up to that event can get really shitty.

>>395230
Yes, and?

>>395232
I don't know. You tell me.

Speak your mind, chump.

I just sent my client my first paid comissioned art. My heart is fucking racing. I'm not sure I'm cut out for this.

>>395236
Good going! Mind if I give it a look?

>>395248
Yet more proof that Tumblr and 4chan's userbases are goddamned identical in every meaningful way.

>>395248
I've never exactly liked her stuff but those fuckin "special little snowflakes" really crossed a god damn line there.

>>395249
And this is the logo?
Interesting.

>>395253
Well, he just wanted the picture. Apparently he had the logotype that goes underneath it already planned.

>>395254
That's not exactly the sign of a well-planned image strategy...
IN WHICH CASE, YOU'LL BE FINE.

Was this a local deal? How much are you getting from this, if you don't mind the question?

I've personally had a few short stints in graphic design and corporate image work. I'm still dabbling here and there. But I can never really talk about this sorta thing with too many people.

>>395255
Well, yeah. It's just a small local company. I got €40, which I realize is kind of a shitty deal, but I was just excited that anyone would want to pay me for drawing stuff.

>>395256
Its not that bad for local. Especially considering you're a beginner from what you've said.
There's still brilliant GDs out there who don't get paid for their work.

Hell, did you know the Nike Swoosh was bought out from a graphic design student for $5 US dollars?

Just chillax. You'll grow into the job.
Don't be afraid to ask questions or for advice, either!

>>395248
Felt like I was reading a /b/ thread, holy shit.

This mentality is terrible. Someone said something you didn't like? Better attack them and ruin their life! And I'm sure they'd look down on 4chan doing the same thing

>>395258
I've been reading that people believe pleb-comics attacked herself.

Which seems to be the go-to response for "our side could not possibly do it".
Though, as always, I'll only blame the people directly involved in this bullshit.

>>395248
Freehaven confirmed for GROSS MISOGYNERD PISSBABY®

>>395262

If I weren’t bisexual, I’d be a cis-hetero shitlord.

>>395248
>Tumblr itself is a good service
Really? I'd think by now people should be expecting a service that allows multi-tag searches, OpenID based verification, and Advogato-inspired trust metrics while separating comments from reblogs and providing RSS feeds.

>>395264

I said ‘good’ service, not ‘perfect’ service.

>>395248
I think it's unfair for people to claim she did it to herself because it's fucking stupid and no different from the tinhats who accused ZQ and Sarkeesian of doxxing themselves or being professional victims, but honestly, Plebcomics is a malicious asshole who goes out of her way to provoke people so I don't really pity her either. She tried to retweet Sarkeesian child porn in the hopes of getting her arrested by the FBI (a retarded plan that didn't work), and even though I heavily dislike Sarkeesian for being a poor spokesperson for feminism in gaming, that's fucking low. I hate SJWs/SRWs too for their holier-than-thou attitudes and intolerance for moderatism or pacifism but her comics abuse the strawman fallacy so hard that everything she posts makes me cringe.

And before people jump on me about it, by SJWs/SRWs I don't mean just anybody who's complaining about racism but specifically the kinds of people who are convinced Athena and Cleopatra were blacks whitewashed by the ancient Greeks, reblog long-disbunked "racist" hoaxes and conspiracy theories without factchecking, and post about how genociding all white Americans and cop assassination are appropriate forms of self-defense after Ferguson, and that any black person who disagrees is a race traitor, and so on.

>>395268
By the way this doesn't mean I approve of the people doxxing her at all. That's excessively cruel and proof that simply ignoring SJW/SRW culture and letting it fester doesn't do any good. I'm just saying that she, as an individual, overstepped the bounds of what's "victim blaming" far enough that I can't be arsed to feel bad for her either beyond "sorry you got doxxed".

>>395268
>reblog long-disbunked "racist" hoaxes and conspiracy theories without factchecking

This is what truly pisses me off about SJWs. Their inability to listen to other sides of the story, read documented facts, and operate based on nothing but their own biased hurt feelings. Complete disregard for logic and reasoning. Strawmanning everything, and thinking completely in black/white terms. They combine the absolute worst aspects of religion, including the inability to get in trouble for it.

>>395268

SJWs are an annoyance, but so long as they’re not actively advocating for violence/revenge in one form or another, I say let them show their stupidity as much as possible. (‘Better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you a fool’ and all that.) SRWs are a whole other breed: they want vengeance, and they’ll look for it in any form possible/necessary. These are the people who think they’re right because they can make you regret saying they’re wrong. You disagree with them or mock them even a little, and they start looking to dox you and hack your blog/Twitter/whatever and doing whatever it takes to ruin your life.

I don’t generally have much issue with SJWs so long as they’re not being malicious—but I have a massive problem with SRWs, and they can all kindly go fuck themselves with an inanimate carbon rod.

>>395268
>are appropriate forms of self-defense after Ferguson

What do you propose as an alternative? I'm not saying that this is the answer, but what do you even do when police are America's biggest gang that get away with literal murder? Answer in the politics thread if you like, but I'm cynical after heavily armed police started attacking protestors (real protestors, not looters). How do you even respond to someone who responds to peaceful protest with violence?

I'm a little reluctant to trust anyone who uses the term SJW unironically these days.

That being said, I'll take them (the SJW) any day over their counterparts who just want to spew hatred because they're scared of the bubble around them bursting. At least you could argue that SJW were, to some extent, trying to do good, even if they went about it the wrong way. That's always going to be worth more points than someone who's knowingly acting like a fucking cunt.

>>395275
The problem is what constitutes "acting like a fucking cunt".

To SJWs, making a racist joke around my black friend, despite him being ok with it and we both finding it funny, I'm a bad person for telling it in the first place and I clearly am racist and support racial stereotypes.

>>395276
And to 'anti-SJW' you're a race traitor for having a black friend in the first place.

>>395277
That's...what?

>>395276
>and I clearly am racist and support racial stereotypes.

Depends on what the joke was. Because I'm black and I consider certain black people who put up with certain black jokes to be, if I may be blunt, fuckboys. Him being okay with it doesn't necessarily make it cool in my eyes. You can say practically anything and try to pass it off as "Well, it's just jokes."

Keep in mind here that I'm not necessarily judging you or him, as I don't have the entire context. But I don't find the logic of "Well this one X person is okay with it." to hold up as a defense. I mean, you two can keep on doing what you want to do and I'm not here to stop you. But something about the way you explained it just doesn't sit with me.

And in regards to acting like a fucking cunt, you know exactly what I'm talking about. As someone who just told me he jokes around with his black friend, can you really not understand context, and the difference between someone making a joke with friends and someone legitimately trying to be hurtful? Not to excuse your jokes, but let me put it this way: Whatever you said to him, you certainly wouldn't say it to me or some other random black person you saw walking down the street.

>>395279
He's saying that hardcore anti-SJW, whatever term we're using to refer to them these days, would be disgusted with you for having a black friend. They'd claim that you were only doing so to be progressive or some other bullshit.

>>395280
>You can say practically anything and try to pass it off as "Well, it's just jokes."

But it IS just jokes. Different people find different things funny or offensive, those two things are subjectory. You're telling me you've never told or laughed at a similar "offensive" joke in your entire life? Are Dave Chappelle and Katt Williams, two of the most famous black comedians ever who make shitloads of racial jokes with shitloads of black people in the audience laughing their asses off, race traitors? Or is it somehow different in that context? If so, I'd love to hear how.

>But I don't find the logic of "Well this one X person is okay with it."

What about the logic of "Well this one X person is okay with it, and he's one of MILLIONS that would be"?

>Whatever you said to him, you certainly wouldn't say it to me or some other random black person you saw walking down the street.

Fucking duh. What's your point? As said, humor is subjectory. And yes, of course hurtful comments and jokes are different in context. My argument is that SJWs don't understand this context, and treat both as one in the same. Based on that logic, making a joke about, idk, Billy Mays selling stuff in heaven, "isn't cool" because it would hurt one of his surviving family members if I told it to them.

>He's saying that hardcore anti-SJW, whatever term we're using to refer to them these days, would be disgusted with you for having a black friend. They'd claim that you were only doing so to be progressive or some other bullshit.

That's...absurd. I've never once seen an anti-SJW (As in, someone against SJWs) who was racist/sexist to the point of acting like a random guy in the U.S. in 1861. Nobody would ever listen to or pay attention to them, if they do exist, whereas plenty of people sympathize with and praise most batshit insane SJWs, who are "progressive" to the point where I can't imagine anything but a dystopian future with their mindset.

>>395275
Except that sometimes they're eager to go on ideological witchhunts of their own people and cow them into line for not following extreme dogma. When I criticized people for trying to paint Imperial Japan as innocent victims of the Allies' white imperialism and whitewashing all their numerous war crimes I got called a white apologist, and then when I brought up the fact that the point is that white people have fuck all to do any of it and I'm angry because my own grandmother and her baby sister barely escaped while the Japanese were off massacring, raping, and pillaging her village and many others, I get told to shut up because I'm threatening the cause or that I'm betraying my heritage because us POCs' solidarity against the white man is more important than my own personal issues or some bullshit.

Fuck these people. I dare them to say that to the face of an actual Asian person who lives outside their shitty Eurocentric bubble. You don't get to complain about white people's oppression of POCs and historical revisionism while trying to enforce the same exact bullshit on the very people you claim to identify with and fight for when they follow through on the cause you espouse. These people may not necessarily engage in active hate on against "privileged" groups on the level of social revenge assholes, but they certainly are trying to do just as much social damage anyway by actively whitewashing the sins of an oppressive empire in the name of "social progress" and clamping down on anybody who dares inconvenience their narrative with the truth.

I'm fortunate that the issue of Imperial Japanese war crimes is largely a nontroversy in most parts of the world but it reminds me of how back in the Cold War days Communist parties in the West did the same to their own members for daring to speak out about the Ukrainian genocide or Stalin's purges. White supremacists are some of the lowest shit, but they personally don't bother me as much because at least they don't try to pretend to be my friend and ingratiate themselves with me only so they can backstab me when they realize I'm not content with being a patsy they can feel good about themselves over.

>>395282
Nah, The Red Pill and A Voice for Men sometimes like to pull the "anti-SJW" card when people call them out on their misogyny. Though I agree that just because extreme social justice crusaders are unpopular with hardcore racists and sexists doesn't make them in the right anymore than hating openly fascist organizations means you're a good person either. Plenty of people all over the political spectrum do, including lots of anti-SJWs, who run the gamut from actual rightists to leftists who agree with the broad ideas of what SJWs say but just not in how they deliver the message.

>>395282
>What about the logic of "Well this one X person is okay with it, and he's one of MILLIONS that would be"?

So how are you going to ascertain these numbers exactly?

>Fucking duh. What's your point?

Speaking of people not getting context.

That wasn't a dig at you and your friend. I was explaining the difference between people who are joking and people who are trying to be hurtful.

Now I don't know what you two joke about and I don't care, but take this as an example: You call him a nigger and the both of you laugh about it. But you personally would not walk up to a random black person and call him a nigger. A person who wants to be hurtful WOULD. That's my point, and the reason I even used you in the example is because if you know you wouldn't say that shit to a person you didn't know, then you have at least enough empathy for another person not to do that shit. People who want to be hurtful lack this, whereas you apparently have it.

>I've never once seen an anti-SJW (As in, someone against SJWs) who was racist/sexist to the point of acting like a random guy in the U.S. in 1861

This is either a lie or coming from someone who literally does not browse 4chan nowadays.

>>395285
>So how are you going to ascertain these numbers exactly?

The same way you get your numbers of black people who WOULD be offended. By knowing that humor is subjective and there's equal amounts of black people who have open enough minds to laugh at it, and those who find it personally offensive. Because everyone is different.

>People who want to be hurtful lack this, whereas you apparently have it.

But those people are going to be that way because they're just shitty people to begin with. They're not normal people who have normal social lives and black friends who randomly say "nigger" to someone they don't know because they assume it's ok and don't see what the problem is. The latter you can change, the former you cannot, no matter how much you complain on tumblr.

>This is either a lie or coming from someone who literally does not browse 4chan nowadays.

4chan. A community that is only respected by itself and has no noticeable effect on the world at large because nobody takes them seriously, 90% of whom being too chickenshit to actually spout their opinions in real life, because they know they're controversial and just plain wrong. That's your example?

>>395284
Just so you know, I wasn't referring to anyone being "right"

Both sides can be wrong and I can still prefer one to the other. It's really a choice of if you like diarrhea or vomiting better.

I can agree that people can get overzealous and misguided in their slacktivism. But my point is that some of these people, fools as they may be, are actually attempting to do something right. It's not like the movements that cropped up to them that opposed them just for trying to upset the status quo.

Think of it as feminism vs. MRAs. The former sprung up to address something that needed to be addressed, whereas the latter sprung up only to oppose the former. A person from the first group can get to be retarded, but it wasn't necessarily retardation born out of malice, as you would get from the second.

I didn't really want to use feminism as an example here because I don't wish to demean what they (and me, as I identify as a feminist) stand for by comparing them to internet slacktivists.

Outside of /pol/ and /v/ 4Chan mostly likes to be offensive for contrarian reasons. In another decade they would flooded with pro-homosexuality posts just because it's what's the edgiest.

>>395287
The fact that you think anyone against feminism is an MRA is the reason people hate feminism. That black and white mentality.

I don't even believe in the word feminist. The definition is: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. Which is a very basic human ideal at this point. If I walked out onto the street right now and asked 100 random men "Do you believe women have a place in politics, should be paid equally and treated as equals?" I don't think I'd find many, if at all, who would honestly say "no". No, at this point, feminism has dissolved into meaning "I don't like being cat-called" or "I don't like how fat isn't attractive". Petty shit.

I've heard people defend feminism because it fights for rights for both genders. Well ok, if that's true, why the fuck are you calling it feminism? A word coming from "female"? Implying that the female point of view is the "right" one?

>>395289
>Well ok, if that's true, why the fuck are you calling it feminism?
Because women are still getting the short end of the stick on a fuckload of things.

You're getting too hung up on etymology and not focusing on the actual issues. It's bad form and deflection on your part.

>>395289
>The fact that you think anyone against feminism is an MRA is the reason people hate feminism.

Also I never ever said this, nor did I imply it. Don't start putting words in my mouth to suit your weak arguments.

>>395292
The etymology IS an actual issue, and a huge reason why the term incites hatred. Because it still implies a feminine point of view, which is not something men are going to pay attention to without being skeptical at first, because what IMMEDIATELY springs to mind in the human brain is "You should be feminine". If the primary focus is equal rights for both genders, regardless of women getting the short end of the stick, it should have a term that openly invites both genders. This is based purely on logic and science.

>>395295

>You should be feiminine

If anything, feminism says "you should have the right to be feminine if you so choose". Also we should really move this to the politics thread.

>>395295
>The etymology IS an actual issue, and a huge reason why the term incites hatred.

Etymology is never an actual issue except to people who want to distract from the actual issues. No argument has ever benefited from people breaking out dictionary definitions.

Etymology has created controversy before, believe it or not. "Obamacare"

I don't want to play, I don't want to work, I don't even feel like talking to people.
Why is it that I'm like this on my time off? It's so frustrating.