/pco/ - Promotions

Can't read the whole message without the thread having a first post.

Is there somewhere more private to discuss this?

>>211270
>Is there somewhere more private to discuss this?

You can email me at Incognitymous@hotmail.com. I also just made a Discord recently so I just made a permanent invite link to a channel at: https://discord.gg/EjQvAqC

Guess this gives me an excuse to test Discord more.

Side note. It seems it is end of business day for Patreon's Trust and Safety team so I may have to wait until the morning for a response to my email.

Complete bullshit. If digital murder is A-ok then other "illegal" things in digital media should be fine as well. Fuckers who can't tell reality from fantasy ruin everything.

whats entry.jp? is it like pixiv? pateron?

How to solve: get that domain you were talking about. Do it now. Fuck the third parties. You will never truly feel safe or know peace until your product fall under your total control. What you provide is a unique service ie: loli art requests, so administration and distribution of it requires extra care.

>>211274
Yeah it's bullshit. We gotta play by the rules tho, Incog's survival depends on us playing ball

That's weird, I just looked at my patreon and your Loli stuff is still up but for some reason it says I'm not currently pledging you, wtf?.

Sounds like legislation is changing, or about to change. Online entities are forced to comply. Mass censorship ensues. Is the reason for Jab's longevity in this game his lack of underage characters in his content? It's possible. Don't know anyone else doing commercial loli art long term, but I'm sure incog can be the first of his kind.

>>211275
Enty is like japan patreon from what I understand

incog if you want why not recreate your Patreon at lah.li it's a forum site that is free to join and they let people post loli pics and regular hentai

I guess this is why marking your art with your Patreon address was seen as a bad idea. Aww well. Let the re-directs on all chans and forums begin. As soon as you decide on a new homepage, I'll mobilize.

>>211266
Cindy as Cammy, nice pick.

Just redirect your pic to somewhere else.

>>211289
Tru dat incog. Is it possible to conduct business at Patreon but direct to an external host for your art?

>>211290
Other people beeing doing it.

What of Pixiv? Do they offer some monetary compensation for artists? I do know it has Premium account to access certain artworks (which I assume is how the site makes money). And unless I'm mistaken, Simon/Conoghi are regulars there.

>>211266
Fantastic! As epic as last year's club trick or treat pic =D

>>211266
Gwen looks as fuckable as ever I see.

Me again. Spent some time discussing options with people in Discord, had some words Just posting replies before bed.

>>211273
>Whaa incog NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Truly there is no justice in the world. All we wanted was for you to be rewarded for all the good you've done and boom, the nutjobs win. I'm equally hysterical about that OP too. Let's move on and recover from this!

Yeah, sad but it happened. I am sure it will be worked out with Patreon. I sent them an email about why I did what they did and what they did to lead me to make my assumption. If you send an email with a varying DKIM header, abandon your email template while using a completely different domain to send from while making no effort to use other methods of communication then it's tough to take the email seriously. Oh well, I just have to wait for support to open tomorrow.

>>211275
>whats entry.jp? is it like pixiv? pateron?

It's pretty much a combination of the two, so a Japanese Patreon. Was too much hassle to try and set up so I gave up. Too much hassle due to loose or no translation of a lot of pages. Couldn't even figure out how to add payment information.

>>211277
>How to solve: get that domain you were talking about. Do it now. Fuck the third parties. You will never truly feel safe or know peace until your product fall under your total control. What you provide is a unique service ie: loli art requests, so administration and distribution of it requires extra care.

The problem is the time in doing so and the fact that I need to get income back ASAP. I may be able to get assistance from someone within Jab/Pal in getting a domain for myself within the next few days. I'll likely be able to do something more in-depth with that and Patreon rewards. I just will not be able to claim Patreon as funding any loli content, which I will just have to consider personal stuff I do on the side.

>>211280
>Yeah it's bullshit. We gotta play by the rules tho, Incog's survival depends on us playing ball

Yeah, pretty much this. The only problem in this situation was the shady way they handled emailing me this information. If they had used any other form of communication or method to prove the validity of that seemingly false email then I would have responded appropriately. That's really the only thing that bothers me about this.

>>211281
>That's weird, I just looked at my patreon and your Loli stuff is still up but for some reason it says I'm not currently pledging you, wtf?.

I don't know, the take down happened differently for everyone. My profile still exists as a private profile that I cannot access. I just need their support to open back up so I can communicate with them.

>>211283
>Sounds like legislation is changing, or about to change. Online entities are forced to comply. Mass censorship ensues. Is the reason for Jab's longevity in this game his lack of underage characters in his content? It's possible. Don't know anyone else doing commercial loli art long term, but I'm sure incog can be the first of his kind.

Apparently the trick to doing commercial loli is to not claim any commercial funds as going to loli. I am sure Patreon would not have an issue with me utilizing Patreon in other ways while doing loli in my personal time. I simply will not be able to put any loli related rewards and all loli related content/discussion will have to be handled externally.

>>211284
>Enty is like japan patreon from what I understand

This. Sadly much like earlier Pixiv it is suffering from some translation issues.

>>211285
>incog if you want why not recreate your Patreon at lah.li it's a forum site that is free to join and they let people post loli pics and regular hentai

I hope to get my Patreon page back up but if not I will have to make a new one. I really would like to get my old domain back to increase the odds of past patrons finding me but regardless this is going to hurt me this month. I do not feel I need to use any other site as I have options for posting content I simply need to revise my Patreon to start.

>>211287
>I guess this is why marking your art with your Patreon address was seen as a bad idea. Aww well. Let the re-directs on all chans and forums begin. As soon as you decide on a new homepage, I'll mobilize.

It really wasn't that bad. If I had just not had the content on Patreon it would have been fine, but again, poorly handled communication made me mistake the email as phishing. I am hoping to have my own domain soon and hopefully in time be able to slowly find a way to remove Patreon from the situation.

>>211288
>Cindy as Cammy, nice pick.

I've been wanting to do that one for a while.

>>211290
>Tru dat incog. Is it possible to conduct business at Patreon but direct to an external host for your art?

That's the plan. I plan to start doing stuff with older characters for Patreon, especially since it's not like I don't have people asking me to do so and I have been planning to dip into older characters often but due to the mountain of loli requests never really got the chance to do so. With my page being taken down it is possible to get a fresh start where I market it differently while still providing at least an equal amount of loli content on the side in a separate domain that I do not market as Patreon funded. I am sure they will agree that what I do in my free time is not of concern as long as I market my Patreon towards something else.

>>211293
>Incog since it's october can you do a pic of the girl monsters from the scooby doo movie ghoul school doing any sexual thing you want cause you alwagroup ys choose good ideas for the girls to be doing in your pics

I definitely do not have the capacity for requests right now. Far more important things to work out while I finish up the last few guaranteed requests. Even though the page is down I received payment for them so they will be done.

>>211296
>What of Pixiv? Do they offer some monetary compensation for artists? I do know it has Premium account to access certain artworks (which I assume is how the site makes money). And unless I'm mistaken, Simon/Conoghi are regulars there.

Not that I know of. Only real good option seems to be Patreon or to take commissions via PayPal or something. I feel I have enough people that trust me enough to pay up front so that I do not get cheated but it's still something I would prefer not to do. I may have to do it in the short run based on Patreon's response tomorrow but given my detailed email of the situation and their general understanding I imagine it will go well.

>>211301
>a Japanese Patreon. Was too much hassle to try and set up so I gave up. Too much hassle due to loose or no translation of a lot of pages. Couldn't even figure out how to add payment information.

Damn shame there, you'd be huge in Japan ;)

>>211301
It sorta does feel like the Patreon company was being pressured to weed out questionable content. Initially they would only have cared for all the dollars you were bringing to their site but authorities are still trying to censor what we see online. Setting up shop elsewhere could only lead to the same complications down the line right when you start to get momentum again and that would be heartbreaking. Getting a domain is definitely the most logical answer I can think of. I'd hate for you to keep having to start over.

You know I'd hire you.

So incog do you get to keep your pledgers? Or are they gone, scattered in the wind. It's not like anyone can prove that their money was being spent on loli, can they?

>>211304
Well, that sort of art is becoming more marginalized. Truthfully, when sites like hentai foundry banned that sort of work from being hosted on their site, it was a nail in the coffin for that sort of material.

>>211305
>Getting a domain is definitely the most logical answer I can think of.

The problem is, how to handle payment processing? Most of the most common ones like Paypal will outright freeze your accounts (along with any money in it) if there's direct loli content. Some people get away with it by just selling 'commissions' of an undisclosed nature, but Incog doesn't really want to do that. Patreon at least offered a middle-man where they did all the work. If Incog gets his own site, then he has to do all the work and still have to risk it.

Unless you manage to do something where supporting on your totally-non-loli Patreon just gives you access to your totally legit non-loli website art forum (that, because you support freedom of expression, happens to have loli sections, and oops they happen to be the most active) where you can make requests/guaranteed requests/etc of whatever you like (maybe different sections of the forum can be locked to different patreon support tiers so people who pledge at the guaranteed request level can do so in your forum). But then you probably won't be able to advertise patreon for your loli work or your guaranteed requests that involve loli.

Simple answer to this is to take donations for your 'non-worksafe' loli artwork through Patreon but post none of the work on Patreon.
To Liquidmark: Shove it where the son doesn't shine! There are TONS of websites offering lolicon stuff online today, more than before Hentai Foundry went the dipshit route.

>>211301

Discord? what server? link please?

>>211301
Cant you just do patreon loli reward offsite?

>>211318
Read
>>211271

i know of some patreon accounts that post links to specific pictures or videos rather than posting the picture itself. that might work in the future

>>211266
So incog what tye plans for the your comics now?

>>211327
Well, if incog doesn't get his income stream back to a safe zone, he'll have to go back to work, which means less art being drawn and less comics along with it.

Commenting on the situation at hand. Patreon acknowledged the way the situation was handled but apparently the damage is done and my account cannot be restored. I have been welcomed to make a new page as long as I do not fund loli content with it. Waiting for a response to see if I can at least get my old account back with everything removed so I can keep the account name/email associated. Will start up my page again as soon as I have a response to that final inquiry.

>>211302
>Damn shame there, you'd be huge in Japan ;)

Well the page would be in English with a western style so not so sure about that. It does though explicitly allow loli and would thus enable me to post everything there early with just a small black bar and them release it elsewhere on non JP servers without it. Would be more stable but the foreign payment issues are proving a hassle at this time, especially with the current poor site translation.

>>211304
>So a new era begins where potentially, you only draw loli on the side. Gaahh. Out of nowhere. Curveball indeed.

>>211305
>It sorta does feel like the Patreon company was being pressured to weed out questionable content. Initially they would only have cared for all the dollars you were bringing to their site but authorities are still trying to censor what we see online. Setting up shop elsewhere could only lead to the same complications down the line right when you start to get momentum again and that would be heartbreaking. Getting a domain is definitely the most logical answer I can think of. I'd hate for you to keep having to start over.

Yeah, sadly I do not know of any options for payment processing but that is what I can maybe aim for in the future. Sites that host said content and have been around 10+ years are still around and strong so I know there is some way to do it despite most options not supporting NSFW content. A domain is a great option as I can keep up communication on a larger scale that I can tag onto my works that is not Patreon. I'm not really worried about starting over at this point as I feel this was just one bad situation that was handled poorly.

>>211306
>You know I'd hire you.

Hell I may have to look for such offers if this keeps up.

>>211307
>So incog do you get to keep your pledgers? Or are they gone, scattered in the wind. It's not like anyone can prove that their money was being spent on loli, can they?

From what I heard back my page is gone, although this is rather odd as bookmarks and links can still access the content that has supposedly been removed. My account also still exists as a standard, private user account. The patrons are gone with my page but I can rebuild. They said so personally.

>>211308
>Well, that sort of art is becoming more marginalized. Truthfully, when sites like hentai foundry banned that sort of work from being hosted on their site, it was a nail in the coffin for that sort of material.

It's all the work of SJWs. We need a crusade.

>>211311
>The problem is, how to handle payment processing? Most of the most common ones like Paypal will outright freeze your accounts (along with any money in it) if there's direct loli content. Some people get away with it by just selling 'commissions' of an undisclosed nature, but Incog doesn't really want to do that. Patreon at least offered a middle-man where they did all the work. If Incog gets his own site, then he has to do all the work and still have to risk it.
>
>Unless you manage to do something where supporting on your totally-non-loli Patreon just gives you access to your totally legit non-loli website art forum (that, because you support freedom of expression, happens to have loli sections, and oops they happen to be the most active) where you can make requests/guaranteed requests/etc of whatever you like (maybe different sections of the forum can be locked to different patreon support tiers so people who pledge at the guaranteed request level can do so in your forum). But then you probably won't be able to advertise patreon for your loli work or your guaranteed requests that involve loli.

Payment processing is indeed the issue. That is where my idea of figuring out internet security options and the like to get certified seemed to be a good bet. I plan to discuss how it works with people with more knowledge on the subject but I know there are options outside of PayPal and Stripe as far as receiving payments. I just need to figure out what they are and how much technical know-how is required to utilize them.

Starting in December at the latest, given my current page growth, my goal was to start focusing solely on the Ben 10 comic while doing the Wanda x Pietro comic on the side. Sadly this ended up happening and has set that back. I will likely have to start doing something different on the side, like monochrome or flats comics that can be done on the side of whatever interesting older characters are mainstream. I've discussed options in Discord and post-graduation Iron Man: Armored Adventures ideas came up (so they are all 18+ while looking the same) but this would require colors to look accurate. There are also options like doing 2011 Cheetara with Lion-O and/or Tygra, Allura from the new Voltron (a top pick for me as she has that sort of Katara appeal) with whoever, or even dipping into anime stuff. I really would like to do something with Sanji and his sister from One Piece after seeing their relationship together while they were younger. There are definitely ideas out there that appeal to me that could be Patreon hosted. I simply need to get decided on one and then do my loli stuff on the side. As long as the Patreon is not used to directly fund the loli stuff I am sure the community would still be aware that receiving income from Patreon still indirectly helps me make it by paying my bills. I am sure Patreon will not consider what I do in my free time.

>>211317
>Simple answer to this is to take donations for your 'non-worksafe' loli artwork through Patreon but post none of the work on Patreon.
>To Liquidmark: Shove it where the son doesn't shine! There are TONS of websites offering lolicon stuff online today, more than before Hentai Foundry went the dipshit route.

Sadly my setup never worked as "donations", but we'll see what I can do. With this being my income I want to legit follow their rules as much as possible without making it impossible for me to do the other stuff I would like to do as well. As mentioned above, doing loli on the side on my own personal domain is not something that would likely ever have an effect on my Patreon page. As to the sites offering loli stuff today, while they are not that difficult to find the problem comes with adding commercial options to the mix. Not a lot of places to fund the posting of loli content.

>>211318
>Discord? what server? link please?

Already listed above. https://discord.gg/EjQvAqC

>>211323
>Cant you just do patreon loli reward offsite?

Not according to their terms. Not allowed on or off site.

>>211330
>Well, if incog doesn't get his income stream back to a safe zone, he'll have to go back to work, which means less art being drawn and less comics along with it.

This. Do not want to do this. Will likely have to raise my guaranteed request costs to more of a standard commission rate to make up for this situation and then adjust accordingly as I get back on track.

>>211327
>So incog what tye plans for the your comics now?

As mentioned above, do non-loli comics aside loli comics. Use the non-loli comics to advertise my Patreon, loli comics to advertise my new website once I can get something going.

>>211326
>i know of some patreon accounts that post links to specific pictures or videos rather than posting the picture itself. that might work in the future

Still not allowed. They may get away with it but they could still issue a warning at any time to remove it.

I know several other artists are doing images and movies that are probably crossing the line as well. UnidentifiedSFM has everything in his videos up to monster on loli. Same with MisterD.

I wonder if they have received those emails yet?

>>211332
>The patrons are gone with my page but I can rebuild.

Amazed that you can keep a level head through this. Stay strong incog. And you're right, we'll rebuild with Plan Bs and Cs.

>>211333
3D is a much worse offense IMO, as some of them are bordering on realistic.

Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

You read that link above correctly. Finally got my Patreon back up. I edited the disclaimer on the main page to sort of discuss the current situation but plan to make a more detailed post on my Patreon in a bit that is visible to everyone. I plan to start comics of characters in a less controversial age range while doing my personal projects on the side. This means I do not plan to stop what I have been doing but I will not longer have them associated with Patreon. It has been apparent to me that it is against their ToS to post my preferred content and I would like to adhere to their wishes.

I plan to keep all of my free content that I was about to post held back for a minute. I am looking into getting my own domain and would like to be able to release my current bulk of personal content with my new non-Patreon domain once it is available. I will be attempting to run my Patreon as legit as possible without it interfering too much with this other work. I will wait a few days and decide what to do with guaranteed request slots as well. With how heavy a blow this was I may sadly have to resort to more standard priced commission rates until I get things to a reasonable level again as income is quite important.

Now on to responses so I can eat then get back to getting things figured out after eating something.

>>211333
>I know several other artists are doing images and movies that are probably crossing the line as well. UnidentifiedSFM has everything in his videos up to monster on loli. Same with MisterD.
>
>I wonder if they have received those emails yet?

Not sure. It appears only a small list of people were hit and in my case all communication seemed to be with a single person in their Trust + Safety department. Not sure if it's a new person or if they are really pushing policies for some reason. Regardless I feel people should be extra careful about what they allow on Patreon but they still seem reasonable about it. They even went ahead and unlocked my old credentials for me so that I could restore my page to as close to as what it was before within a few hours of the request.

>>211334
>Amazed that you can keep a level head through this. Stay strong incog. And you're right, we'll rebuild with Plan Bs and Cs.

Meh, stuff happens. Stressing or worrying doesn't help. I always have contingency plans in life. Sadly at this point that contingency plan means dipping into my car fund... I promised my guaranteed request slot holders that I would grant them a last month before removing them from their slots but Patreon sort of forced my hand on that. As much as I would like to restore their slots I will likely have to raise prices a bit or reduce the conditions of the slots to something less in order to attempt to make up for the sudden loss. As soon as I get things stable again I want to work on getting these people their final slots back at the promised rate, assuming they still want them that is. I may be able to start doing so sooner but at a slower rate, such as granting one person or so a slot a month, but for now I cannot really afford to offer as much as I was before at the rates I was offering for.

>>211335
>3D is a much worse offense IMO, as some of them are bordering on realistic.

While I don't feel either should be an "offense" I do have to acknowledge that the realistic 3D stuff is where things start to become more likely to receive actual legal action. 2D animated loli is generally safer due to the fact that they don't generally even look human.

>>211336
>2 patrons
>$16 a month

Godless heathens. Still, this is a triumph so we shall rejoice in it.

>>211336
>>211336
>I plan to start comics of characters in a less controversial age range while doing my personal projects on the side. This means I do not plan to stop what I have been doing but I will not longer have them associated with Patreon.
This means that the Ben 10 project will be continued? Sweet. How much monthly income you need?

Its back up! https://www.patreon.com/Incognitymous/posts Hurry reclaim your pledge! Help out ze master of arts

>>211341
Spread the word on this. Let's get incog back on top.

>>211342
Area too.

Are you not updating you Jab page anymore?

Now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode! Seriously though, this really sucks. I really hope that you can fix this and do what you wanna do instead of just doing requests that you have no interest in.

>>211347
He's got bigger fish to fry atm, ie: re-establishing his source of income so he can eat next week. The jab page can wait.

>>211266>>211301
>If I had just not had the content on Patreon it would have been fine

Daaaaaaaaaamn.
It's always in wont of a nail.

Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here's just a copy/paste of my first Patreon post to give a status update just so I do not have to type all of the details again.

Hello fellow patrons. I really thank you all for coming back after the recent mishap that cost me this page. Above is a sketch exampling the first few pieces I will be doing for this Patreon to sort of get it started. My first target character is Princess Allura from Voltron: Legendary Defender. I will be using these for monochromatic/screen tone practice so these first few will not be colored. Going to try for more of a manga feel for images that I post here so that I can create content in less time.
As for the update of my status, I have been having discussion with someone as far as obtaining my own domain so that this recent mishap does not risk happening again. I will be using this Patreon as I get things set up on that end. As soon as I begin to get things set on a web page I will try and grant access to its progress to my patrons as well as grant early access to its content. It will eventually be a pay site as the person assisting me will be able to grant me access to such features. I do not plan for it to be any more expensive than my current patronage is and will be granting all of the same features as before. The only difference is that it will likely have a solid $10 access value as opposed to the current tier system, with possibly a more extended monthly program that can reduce the amount. Of course I will have to discuss the business end with my new host so do not quote these as exact details at this time.

Even after I get my page rolling I will still keep this Patreon up in the short term as a tip jar and as a means of doing commissions/guaranteed requests. Due to the hit to my income I just received these extra boosts will be necessary for a brief period. Not only did I abruptly lose an expected $1600 of income but getting my own domain set up will cost money, expected $316. On top of the financial costs I will be getting a blank slate to work with so there will be some development time to get a general site rolling. This expected time sink is one reason I will be sticking monochromatic for a brief period of time.

Once everything is up and rolling I will be able to return to my intended plans. However, since there has been some demand over the last year from people requesting that I draw my normal themes with more 18+ characters, which there is a selection of that I personally like, I may keep this Patreon up in the long run to weigh out how much demand these requests have. If this page is able to receive a comparable amount of support alongside my main page with a comparable amount of effort for the value then I will try and keep this rolling. It doesn't hurt to maintain a wider audience and it's not like there isn't a nice range of characters that I would like to do that fit this page's criteria.

Now for /pco/ specific responses.

>>211338
>This means that the Ben 10 project will be continued? Sweet. How much monthly income you need?

Of course it will. This is just another setback in the way of doing so. Really I only need like $1,000/month as a starting monthly income. $2,000/month would be better and have me actually above the poverty line where I live but I can make less work if it means I can draw my comics.

>>211347
>Are you not updating you Jab page anymore?

I will be. I don't want to release my stuff publicly until I have my domain up. This way I can tag it all for a little bit of bulk advertising since my current stuff that I am holding on to is from a variety of sources due to the nature of requests. Also, I still have 1.5 guaranteed requests to finish up, which I am making partial progress on every day as I know I'll finish them by the end of the month at this rate. I then need to do my calendar for the month. I'll need to decide and open some higher slots to make up a bulk of my lost income but my Patreon page seems to be jumping up a bit. What I end up having to go with and how much time setting up a domain takes is going to determine exactly when I can get back to my preferred projects.

>>211349
>Now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode! Seriously though, this really sucks. I really hope that you can fix this and do what you wanna do instead of just doing requests that you have no interest in.

There's actually quite a few characters 18+ that I do have interest in so there's enough to hold me off a brief period. This is just another one of life's setbacks for me but I'm making progress. Luckily it seems this setback opened up a better opportunity to be more "legit" with my work instead of trying to find a loophole to dodge rules and guidelines. AKA I'll be able to do loli in a more financially stable way.

>>211350
>He's got bigger fish to fry atm, ie: re-establishing his source of income so he can eat next week. The jab page can wait.

Pretty much this. My page was reset and I still got bills to pay along with another $316 to come up with. I can last for a month but now I am going to have to explain to people that I need to dip into our car fund to pay bills next month, which is not something I will be looking forward to. Getting things more financially stable for me is a top priority right now.

>>211360
>I don't want to release my stuff publicly until I have my domain up.

Incog gets his Patreon taken down and the first thing people do is leaking his content. http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1998883 The internet amazes me.

You might want to give Drew Gardner a buzz
www.lovelyhell.com/
He set up shop on his own site like you want to and he might be able to give you some tips

>>211360
>Really I only need like $1,000/month as a starting monthly income. $2,000/month would be better and have me actually above the poverty line where I live but I can make less work if it means I can draw my comics.

Aim higher bro. This time next year you'll be living comfortably. You'll be laughing.

>>211360
>This is just another one of life's setbacks for me but I'm making progress. Luckily it seems this setback opened up a better opportunity to be more "legit" with my work

It's like all those beatdowns you got all your life allowed you to build your character into one that turns negatives into positives. It's extraordinary. Classic incog ;)

>>211363
Shadman got a site too

>>211366
He's HAD a site for quite some time, too.

How exactly does Shadman not get hit by Patreon's anti-loli rules? He's got a ton of loli stuff, in fact his latest Patreon update is a WIP of his pin-up of a loli version of witch Mercy.

You can find some of Drews stuff here

https://drawcrowd.com/drewatlovelyhell

Seems his DA account is no longer working

>>211375
Hmph. Is he making that much money for them he's become an exception to the rule?

If you guys want them to be equals you're free to report shad.

>>211379
What a fantastic idea. So Patreon takes Incog down and Incog's fans take Shadman down. The average age in the internet is then 10.

>>211362
Leaked content from a paywall, pretty common Id say

Also, was that pic intended to be public or not?
Incog said that he doesn't want to release his works until he get a site but that means all his works or just some?

>>211379
I'm pretty sure people have already reported Shad. He's got WAY more haters than Incog does.

>>211379
>>211380
ffs that's not what anyone was saying. Just that Shad has an independent website too, away from SJW interference, like Drew Gardner, and that incog could get advice from them if he wanted.

>>211301
>If I had just not had the content on Patreon it would have been fine
So, in theory, could you go back to Patreon and just not host your pics there?

>>211384
The only SJW here is you. Stop telling people to censor. And go hate National Socialists somewhere else you whale.

>>211375
The Mercy pinup is technically SFW, so no problem with parteon, and so it goes with everything Shad posts there. He got into serious trouble some years ago so I guess he knows how to walk the line these days.

>>211385
He could, he was doing it before he started it uploding pics there.

>>211386
And loli Hillary won't get him in trouble?

Incog, since you're drawing adults now, how about Korra? She's 18 in book two and 21 in book four.

If I can toss in a recommendation for adults, how about Android 18 from Dragonball Super? Her new design kicks ass, even though she's been relegated to the Useless Wife Bin.

>>211421
she's a manga character

If anime is on the table I would like to suggest the women of Tenchi Muyo.

What are you planning on doing for the WIP's and archives of your old patreon for your former patrons? Like, if I supported the former patreon page and now I support the current one, will I still get the high res archives of the work you put up on the old one, or are they lost?

Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Just replies right now.

>>211413
>Incog, since you're drawing adults now, how about Korra? She's 18 in book two and 21 in book four.

I feel there are so many better options out there. Never was a fan of Korra personally. Design is great of course but the character was lacking in my mind. Doesn't mean I cannot do something with her if I had the right motivation but as of now I cannot think of anything with her based loosely off canon that interests me.

>>211421
>If I can toss in a recommendation for adults, how about Android 18 from Dragonball Super? Her new design kicks ass, even though she's been relegated to the Useless Wife Bin.

Well from what little I saw every main character outside of Goku and Vegeta has been sadly tossed into that bin so it's not something affecting her in particular. Still always been partial to her so will be open to it, but right now I'd rather stick to western characters until I can get my western loli stuff back up and running safely.

>>211422
>she's a manga character

This. Not a complete issue but one I'd rather hold off on until later.

>>211423
>If anime is on the table I would like to suggest the women of Tenchi Muyo.

That's a rather long list to sift through. Talking original cast only or any/all iterations?

>>211424
>What are you planning on doing for the WIP's and archives of your old patreon for your former patrons? Like, if I supported the former patreon page and now I support the current one, will I still get the high res archives of the work you put up on the old one, or are they lost?

Well I am definitely trying to get my guaranteed requests taken care of first, which I only have 2 left. Any of my guaranteed request patrons asking for their full resolution files have been receiving them as I get to it. Sadly I cannot promise too much for my former patrons as I have lost all patron information. My page is a completely new slate with no information left regarding my future page. All posts, patron/pledge lists, etc., are all gone and I apparently cannot get them back. If I had my patron list I would shoot out a PM to all past pledgers explaining the situation but I cannot.

Just to be sure my past pledgers can access the files I want to release all of October's files on some kind of file hosting site. Maybe I can remember some of my more active patrons but I had 200+ at the end so I cannot be held accountable for remembering names/emails, nor handling direct sending of files to all past patrons. The only way I can ensure past pledgers access said files is make them available to everyone. I plan to keep this Patreon as legit as possible while following in accordance with their guidelines so I cannot handle even linking of the files from there. Hopefully I can have at least a bare bones site up before the month ends to handle archive files and to resume my recent activities.

Do you have any other adults you'd like to draw or are you just gonna stick to princess allura until you get back to the loli stuff?

>>211426
My personal favorites are ryoko, mihoshi, and washu.

>>211266
Wha WHAT? OK BUDDY WHAT DID I MISSED?

Someone said that now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode as a joke but I actually think that's not a bad idea. I think you drew her once a long, long time ago.

>>211438
Read

How about Wonder Woman? You already drew wonder loli.

>>211375
>https://drawcrowd.com/drewatlovelyhell

Dude, its just a matter of time, just because he hasnt got hit, does not mean he is not a target :(, its a shame, as for myself, i took no goddamn chances and had to purge my page myself, and see what happens.

I mean fuck, who guarantees that someone's patreon wouldn't get hit if they remove all the loli anyways?

Welp i took a look at Enty's payment methods, and they SUPPOSEDLY take Paypal...........

But since its japanese, i bet ANY MONEY that they only take Paypal Accounts LINKED TO CREDIT CARD OR BANK ACCOUNTS!, So its almost no point on using Paypal if you still need a credit card, totally does not defeat th point DERP DU DERP!!

Can someone veryfy?

Have you ever thought of coming up with an OC to act as a decoy so you could post that on Patreon instead of the actual work that people would be paying you for.

Mihoshi is best waifu. I definitely hope to see you do some art of her in the near future.

>>211446
For what purpose?

>>211305
>authorities are still trying to censor what we see online.

Not authorities, but the special snowflakes.

Hmmm ... i can suggest something, in France they have a site like Patreon named "Tipeee", https://www.tipeee.com/ , you create an account and everyone can give you a "tip" (Thanks Captain Obvious), but like I said it's french so ... it's only in "euro" or can we use "dollars" too ?

>>211454
You think Incog didn't have anybody pledging to his Patreon in Euro?

>>211457
I'm certain incog has said a few times that the calendars don't follow holiday themes.

>>211411

The black, white, and grey shading makes me think you should make a manga style comic one day.

>>211461
yea but Tiger Lily would be nice to add to the loli club

>>211461
yea but Tiger Lily would be nice to add to the loli club

>>211471
>>211472
sorry for posting it twice the submit buttion was not working right

>>211476
So you decided to post a third post?

>>211484
Surprised there's a lack of response to Allura. On to the next anime starlet it is. Ps: can't go wrong with fighting girls. The idea of those buff bodies being stripped naked appeals to some.

>>211484
Damn, that's some sloppy anal. You should draw this fluid-heavy stuff more often.

How are you finding the refurb process so far incog, is it safe to say that a lot of loli fans have left Patreon? Or are they waiting for your new official webpage to be operational?

Incog, are you going to stick with this black and white style for your patreon? I think you should, this looks just as good as the real thing and you said it takes less time. And you can do your normal coloring/shading on your website when you have it.

>>211499

^, he should also use this style for any small projects that he wants to do but doesn't have that much time.

What're you gonna name your website incog?

>>211506
>I didn't expect a massive response but she got practically zero.
Ehh. People don't really expect non-loli for you. I guess if they want Allura they'd go to other artists.

>>211508
That's a misconception.

So here's a new one, patreon is now deleting fanart as well on November.

>>211513

Seriously? what's your source on this?

>>211513
Poor Patreon CEOs are being scared into submission by copyright laws perhaps

Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Just posting a response after verifying something.

>>211513
>So here's a new one, patreon is now deleting fanart as well on November.

>>211514
>Seriously? what's your source on this?

>>211515
>Poor Patreon CEOs are being scared into submission by copyright laws perhaps

Apparently this is all true. I was finally able to confirm it at: https://www.patreon.com/legal

Under the creator section there is an explicit comment stating that creators may not : "Create content or rewards using intellectual property you do not own or do not have written permission to use."

Since this specifies both "content" and "rewards" it applies to anything funded by and/or posted on Patreon. This is going to be damaging to pretty much any 34 artists on Patreon. I guess we'll all have to make our own OCs or drop out of Patreon. Hopefully I'll have my own site by then but if not what does everyone think would be the best thing to do with Patreon?

>>211519
An excuse to create an original character perhaps? But even then she won't be loli so what's the point lol

>>211519
>>211515
>>Poor Patreon CEOs are being scared into submission by copyright laws perhaps
>
>Apparently this is all true. I was finally able to confirm it at: https://www.patreon.com/legal
>
>Under the creator section there is an explicit comment stating that creators may not : "Create content or rewards using intellectual property you do not own or do not have written permission to use."
>
>Since this specifies both "content" and "rewards" it applies to anything funded by and/or posted on Patreon. This is going to be damaging to pretty much any 34 artists on Patreon. I guess we'll all have to make our own OCs or drop out of Patreon. Hopefully I'll have my own site by then but if not what does everyone think would be the best thing to do with Patreon?

FUCK!

JUST...................FUCK!

>>211515
The only "laws" they are submitting are the ones of the Special Snowflakes.

>>211523
You have a source on that or you're just saying?

>>211522
Hehe don't you have an original character too Pepi? Oh yeah, she's loli >__<

>>211519
>"Create content or rewards using intellectual property you do not own or do not have written permission to use."

I wonder how fair use laws would play into this. Patreon artists who make R34 ARE making money from somebody else's IP, even if it's technically a blanket donation by fans for living expenses. If they had to settle a dispute, I'm guessing they'd probably choose to immediately comply with any C&D request instead of making a case for the artist, as evidenced by their new TOS. If they actually start enforcing this, the only way to make a living from Patreon would be to make nothing but OC, and release any type of R34 fanart on an external site for free where fair use actually has some ground. Even commissions or "VIP" site access could technically run into the same problem if Disney or Nick or whoever starts sending out fuck you letters signed by their legal team, which they inevitably will if the site gets large enough and makes actual money. I wonder how Palcomix is still up and running, for that matter.

>>211527
>I wonder how fair use laws would play into this.

Probably will have no positive effect for our side. I bet patreon's tou change has to do with the soon to be passed trans pacific partnership which is going to worsen copyright law. Fair use is weakened under tpp; made optional while prosecuting copyright infringement is mandatory.

>>211528
Catalysed by music/ movie piracy no doubt. Corporations (ie: Man of Action) aside, Patreon profiting from Incog's Gwen porn could be likened to Ultimo profiting from edits of Incog's Gwen porn.

>>211531
Ultimo gets no profit from the edits.

maybe you can use your patreon for requests that involve characters people have made up? I guess that would be kinda cool.

>>211519
I imagine if this is actually enforced, which who knows if it will be, a lot of artists will post some OC stuff once a month then just keep all the actual content off site.

What if you don't have your own website by November? What're you gonna do?

>>211542
>>211543
I love your older character art. I know people like their loli but I would really love to see more!

Welp! That makes another site in recent times that bans this type of art. There was Furry Network in May, Picarto in December of last year, and fucking Reddit in August of last year. Why is this ONE genre of art with cute looking characters so much worse than a triple-boobed furry shemale shitting in someone's mouth? When will it end?

Incog, I know you've said before that you didn't like how they made adult Gwen look. What if you design your ideal adult version of her and Ben? It'd be really interesting to see what you come up with.

>>211543
Well well well here's hoping they don't outlaw INCEST on the internet anytime soon ;)

>>211542
>Some people view it more as buying the time/experience of the artist.

Exactly it's a matter of perspective. I agree with you completely but Man of Action for example would be up in arms about said artists profiting from what they made and might see it as 'bootleg merchandise' of their intellectual property etc.. In a farfetched alternate scenario of law they would probably approve of official Gwen porn drawn by you but only if they got a percentage of your earnings haha. The noose tightening is pretty much why Patreon appears to be screwing everyone over.

>>211542
>I could do that. Sort of a "post your own OC" pool where people can post their own OCs, thus giving me permission to use them.

Shame they can't be loli OCs, right?

>>211542
>>211543
Looking forward to a lot of highly inappropriate, kinky, filthy dirty talk between loving siblings in this new story incog ^^

>>211506
>>211491
>>Surprised there's a lack of response to Allura. On to the next anime starlet it is. Ps: can't go wrong with fighting girls. The idea of those buff bodies being stripped naked appeals to some.
>
>Agreed. I didn't expect a massive response but she got practically zero. I guess Voltron seems to attract the yaoi crowd more than anything.

Apologies, I'm a bit of a lurker and I'm willing to bet there are others like me. I quite enjoyed pics and you've certainly inspired me to increase the show's priority in my netflix queue. Maybe right after I finish Grojband.

>>211543
Nice, can always count on good Avatar content from you.

Incog, you need to make more pics like the sultry summer cover and this cover. I don't know why but they're hotter than pictures with nudity.

>>211581
The magic of SFW

>>211597
>Why they felt like making the change in their terms at all is now beyond me

They're morons, making the rules up as they go. Here's hoping the Trump government puts a stop to all these intrusive new censorship laws (sarcasm).

> I may dip into an OC comic or two just to try out the waters. There's not many canon 18+ animated characters that are actually interesting beyond their physical appearance..

Can't wait for you introduce us to your new friends!

>>211601
>making the rules up as they go
Actually, having had a patreon account for the last two years and having actually read the terms when I signed up, loli and fanart were already forbidden. It's not a change in policy, they merely reworded it in a clearer way.

So......let me understand, they are STILL alowing Fanart at the very least? yes or no?

>>211603
Was referring more about the banning of fanart issue that arose here >>211513

Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

So I just made a Discord channel to discuss the final 2 calendar girls here: https://discord.gg/3Ds9JaT

Just wanted to let you know that but I'll respond to some comments while here.

>>211600
>Haha "Hey guys, we're *****20***** YEARS OLD and NOT REMOTELY UNDERAGE :D How you like DEM apples, Patreon and Government??!!"

Haha, yeah. I had to make that slip in there just for validity. I also tag them on Patreon as "Legend of Korra" as I stated the characters are based on the official adult versions made for that series.

>>211603
>Actually, having had a patreon account for the last two years and having actually read the terms when I signed up, loli and fanart were already forbidden. It's not a change in policy, they merely reworded it in a clearer way.

Thing is I read the rules too. Problem is they are not clear. This is indicated by the fact that either you or wrong or that everyone in Patreon support is wrong. They never explicitly state that loli nor fanart is forbidden. If you have been there for 2 years there is a good chance you were there during the 8chan issue. The thing is that Patreon has always stated since they were established that they "support fringe creations and discussions", as long as such creations and discussions are legal. They even explicitly made the point, "I guess the dilemma is we'd support reddit, tumblr and fringe art like Lolita - still debating 8chan. Would appreciate community's thoughts." on their Twitter. They were debating 8chan not because of the pornographic content, not because of the loli, but rather because of the illegal activities that the lack of moderation was permitting to take place.

Ignoring the 8chan fiasco, there is nothing in their terms banning animated characters of any type or age. They have a blanket rule against pornography, but this rule is only ever applied to content with real people. Real pornography has a large list of legal complications involved so it makes sense that most hosting services like Patreon just flat out ban it. Heck, they even have a NSFW tag for pages containing pornographic content. Taking this into consideration it should be fair to assume that their restrictions on "sexualizing children" apply to just that, children. A cartoon character is neither an adult nor a child by legal terms, at least in the US, which is where Patreon is hosted.

We then fall back on the fact that Patreon states in their DMCA/copyright sections that they are fine with any and all externally linked/embedded content on Patreon as long as that content is within legal limits as well as follows the terms of the site they are hosted on. In the email that their Trust and Safety department sent me not only did they make the email look exceptionally shady but they also spoke against this term, directly stating to me that you may not dodge their rules by linking to content offsite. I'd imagine a department that has the power to straight up delete accounts would be well versed in the site's policies. There are plenty of pages on Patreon that host loli and throughout discussion I have yet to find anyone that has been banned for such content until "Trust Safety" attacked a small selection of pages within the last couple of weeks, one of which being mine.

Now we move onto fanart. If you are aware from the terms that fanart is forbidden then you are wrong. Patreon has replied to our inquiries on this topic by stating that fanart is fine, even under the upcoming new policies, as long as the fanart was made by the creator hosting it and that they are not claiming ownership over the characters. We even referenced them to a creator with a large fanbase that makes exclusively fanart and they directly stated that it is okay to do so. The new wording does nothing as they still acknowledge fair use laws. The new wording does nothing at all, let alone "reworded it in a clearer way". This is quite apparently indicated by the fact that most people, including you, misinterpreted it.

>>211607
OooOOoo I have to vote for Shanti incog. Doesn't get any more exotic than her.

>>211607
>We then fall back on the fact that Patreon states in their DMCA/copyright sections that they are fine with any and all externally linked/embedded content on Patreon as long as that content is within legal limits as well as follows the terms of the site they are hosted on. In the email that their Trust and Safety department sent me not only did they make the email look exceptionally shady but they also spoke against this term, directly stating to me that you may not dodge their rules by linking to content offsite. I'd imagine a department that has the power to straight up delete accounts would be well versed in the site's policies. There are plenty of pages on Patreon that host loli and throughout discussion I have yet to find anyone that has been banned for such content until "Trust Safety" attacked a small selection of pages within the last couple of weeks, one of which being mine.
>
>Now we move onto fanart. If you are aware from the terms that fanart is forbidden then you are wrong. Patreon has replied to our inquiries on this topic by stating that fanart is fine, even under the upcoming new policies, as long as the fanart was made by the creator hosting it and that they are not claiming ownership over the characters. We even referenced them to a creator with a large fanbase that makes exclusively fanart and they directly stated that it is okay to do so. The new wording does nothing as they still acknowledge fair use laws. The new wording does nothing at all, let alone "reworded it in a clearer way". This is quite apparently indicated by the fact that most people, including you, misinterpreted it.


Mhh, well dude, have you ever tought that maybe, just maybe, the e-mail thing was just "a trap" by someone from the site with SJW tendencies?, i know, i know, paranoia right? but if my theory of the other users being naive about the new policies yet not bieng taken down just for being "under the radar priorities" turns out to be off, than maybe, it could be that someone has a bone to pick with you, since apparently no other people have made it clear whatever they receive such e-mail or not.

Do you still have it?

Really impressed by the Legend of Korra series. There's a certain physicality to Katara's breasts when they pop out of her top and when she fondles them that is quite appealing.

>>211626
>There's a certain physicality to Katara's breasts when they pop out of her top and when she fondles them that is quite appealing.
When does she do that?

Man I would love to own your comics physically.

>>211627
>When does she do that?
In his patreon the comic is 4 pages ahead.

>>211607
>In the email that their Trust and Safety department sent me not only did they make the email look exceptionally shady but they also spoke against this term, directly stating to me that you may not dodge their rules by linking to content offsite. I'd imagine a department that has the power to straight up delete accounts would be well versed in the site's policies. There are plenty of pages on Patreon that host loli and throughout discussion I have yet to find anyone that has been banned for such content until "Trust Safety" attacked a small selection of pages within the last couple of weeks, one of which being mine.

>The new wording does nothing as they still acknowledge fair use laws. The new wording does nothing at all, let alone "reworded it in a clearer way". This is quite apparently indicated by the fact that most people, including you, misinterpreted it.

Team of monkeys working there. They're losing a rising star by opting for censorship. Hope you get your numbers back and recoup your loses soon man. Will help you with promos once your site's up and running, no sweat.

>>211627
Whoops, jumped the gun there. Now you know what to look forward to. XP

i miss the loli club

>>211646

They're in the thread starter.

>>211643

Alice with Hartman Hips or just regular boring old loli Alice?

>>211653
Alice with perfect, girlish hips like in >>211371

>>211654
I think why that ass is so breathtaking is because it isn't exaggerated. There are no curves anywhere on her. Like how incog draws Gwen. It's how Alice should be done.

>>211657
>I've been trying to focus a bit on making breasts relevant as I guess I should practice drawing them a bit. Glad to hear it's working out okay thus far.

Are you kidding? You draw the best boobs already. But I see what you're saying: "developed" =P

>>211658
I prefer traditional boxes but I'm loving the panel-free format for this story. Your sequencing is expert level in this.

Hey Incog,

Would you ever consider aging-up loli characters that don't have a canon older form? You'd have to take some artistic license, but I'm sure you could do it if you had a mind to.

>>211657
>I do feel there was a little bit of discrimination in how they handled the situation.

You have good instincts so let's assume they're intolerant of and biased against certain modes of artistic expression. All the more reason to get out of their system quick before they erase everything you rebuild again o_O

Been away a few days. I see Pateron is treating Incog like Paheal did that one time. Remember? When they nuked his whole tag because loli is wrong there now but it isn't?

>>211683
Just gotta wait for management to change hands. That's usually all it takes. Some new guy to come along and say "What have you done?! Youve lost all this money/ You've ruined everything!!"

>>211684
Patreon moves 7.000.000 USD per month. I'm sure someone will be fired because they lost the 1.600 Incog was making.

>>211654 Pfft, that's boring.

Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Completely forgot to mention something yesterday. I plan to get my Patreon back on the one week delay thing so I'll be posting the next page in a few days. This is perhaps one of the more annoying parts of my page going down as that means this is the second time I have to do this. Oh well, from there it will be back on with daily updates.

Now for responses.

>>211669
>Are you kidding? You draw the best boobs already. But I see what you're saying: "developed" =P

Glad at least someone feels that way but I still feel there is room for improvement there. I simply don't have a lot of experience at this time with larger chests.

>>211670
>I prefer traditional boxes but I'm loving the panel-free format for this story. Your sequencing is expert level in
this.

I agree on the panel format but I felt this would be both a fun exercise and simpler to do. Of course there are some issues with this method that traditional paneling would resolve but it still feels to be a fast and efficient method. All in all it's still something I'd be willing to try again in the future for another side project.

>>211671
>Hey Incog,
>
>Would you ever consider aging-up loli characters that don't have a canon older form? You'd have to take some artistic license, but I'm sure you could do it if you had a mind to.

Not really a lot of interest in doing so. At that point I'd rather just make my own characters. I feel loli should stay loli unless they have the canon adult form.

>>211673
>It's all she can think about. She keeps wetting herself.

She'll get her turn. She'll just have to keep herself distracted until then.

>>211682
>You have good instincts so let's assume they're intolerant of and biased against certain modes of artistic expression. All the more reason to get out of their system quick before they erase everything you rebuild again o_O


I don't think I'll "get out of their system" any time soon. I think I may try and keep my page the way it is as a way to make content for people not into loli or that are afraid of pledging/subscribing to a page with loli. I won't need to push out nearly as much content as I am now so I could just pop out a page or two a day for Patreon once I am able to spend my time fully on primary projects. It will serve as a good form of supplementary support in the long run which will hopefully serve to replace the necessity for any commission slots in the short run.

>>211683
>Been away a few days. I see Pateron is treating Incog like Paheal did that one time. Remember? When they nuked his whole tag because loli is wrong there now but it isn't?

Well at least with Paheal it was an accident and they apologized before I knew it even happened. I think they tried to ban loli and realized that it just wouldn't work with the nature of the site or that it became simply too much work to moderate. I don't know but I'm glad they're not deleting my stuff anymore.

>>211685
>Patreon moves 7.000.000 USD per month. I'm sure someone will be fired because they lost the 1.600 Incog was making.

You'd be surprised how little money it takes to throw even the richest people into a fit of rage. I've known people that have worked at high end country clubs and restaurants where tipping had to be made mandatory because all of the rich people in there were unwilling to do so otherwise. It's not uncommon for a rich person to be really stingy/chintzy.

>>211693
>It's not uncommon for a rich person to be really stingy/chintzy.

They all are. That's why they're rich.

In regards to your boobs, I've always thought they looked good from you.
Honestly, this entire thing had been frustrating, but I'm kind of glad to see you branch out again.
In the past, there were a number of sets you did that were great using older characters.

The avatar stuff, the WITCH stuff, the Iron Man Armored Adventures, those were all great.

Have you tried swaggerdile.com. that's where faf ran off too when patron was being a butt

>>211693

Oh man, we were just getting to the good part. I wish I could pledge to you on patreon. One day.

What show is that

>>211712
Go away abusefag.

what show is this?

>>211756
The ugliness is real.

>>211757
She's cute bra

>>211756
I think it's pretty good but it looks like you could of outline the body's better.

Incog, you should do a one week free trail or something on your website to attract new fans. I don't think a lot of people would just subscribe to a random website.

Incog, you should do a one week free trail or something on your website to attract new fans. I don't think a lot of people would just subscribe to a random website.

>>211781
>>211782
You and your friend are crazy

Sorry, double post.

>>211756
Love the size differences here.

>>211782
I would suscribe since it wouldn't be a random website.

But nice try to have free early content.

>>211693
>It will serve as a good form of supplementary support in the long run which will hopefully serve to replace the necessity for any commission slots in the short run.

Sounds like a plan. Even Natis resorted to drawing furries to pay the bills. How goes the progress of your new domain btw?

>>211697
>In regards to your boobs, I've always thought they looked good

I'll be the judge of that. Post pics of your boobs, incog. NOW.

>>211830
Autism level: God-tier

>>211830
>Incognitymous, I hate to be one of those people, but your use of "thousands" bothered me.

Hey, they mentioned they've been doing this stuff every day for years. In ATLA she was 14, so assuming my own canon of her doing this with Sokka every day since they lived in the village and her now being 20, if she sucked his dick once a day, every day being 365.25 days, during this time that would equal 2191.5 times she has done so. Assuming she has had many days where she has done so multiple times it could easily start hitting the 3-4 thousand mark over said 6 year period, or maybe even more if we reduce the age in which they started doing so. Lots of days go by in a year so daily routines start to build up.

>>211835
And that number basically goes crazy if we assume she sucked him more than once a day, which I wouldn't see why not.

Sorry anon. You complained about grammar by using math, but you can't count good enough for it.

Incog is your site going to be a site where you have to join with a credit card to se your pics?

>>211839
I'm pretty sure he answers that question in this thread. Read.