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So I just got hit hard by Patreon. Turns out that email from before was real and that Patreon uses a very unprofessional format for their Trust Safety, using a blank email template through a public domain as opposed to their Mandrill App. I just sent them a response via email as to getting my page back up explaining the misunderstanding and the things they did to make the email appear falsified. This is a hard hit but I'll see what I can make of it.

At this time I'd like to hear everyone's ideas as to options I can take. I really don't want to do commissions but apparently I may have to open myself up to those while I wait for something else. Luckily I only had 3x guaranteed request slots left to fulfill so I'll still get those done and post them as appropriate as I have already received payment. This further indicates that I really need to get that understanding of hosting my own domain...

Right now I am creating an account at Enty.jp as someone has suggested to me in the past. I will be trying to recreate my Patreon after I hopefully receive a response from them, but apparently their rules are now no loli so I'll likely have to make rewards in that direction and just do loli free on the side as far as Patreon goes. If I cannot use Enty and/or get it figured out and feel I have to open commissions I will discuss the details here but I would like to hear feedback.

Attached to this post is the first image I was going to post free, which was going to be posted tomorrow. It's still resized as the full file does not fit on this page. Now off for me to look at options but feedback would be much appreciated.
No.211268
Anonymous
Can't read the whole message without the thread having a first post.
No.211270
Anonymous
Replies:>>211271
Is there somewhere more private to discuss this?
No.211271
Incognitymous
Replies:>>211325
>>211270
>Is there somewhere more private to discuss this?

You can email me at Incognitymous@hotmail.com. I also just made a Discord recently so I just made a permanent invite link to a channel at: https://discord.gg/EjQvAqC

Guess this gives me an excuse to test Discord more.

Side note. It seems it is end of business day for Patreon's Trust and Safety team so I may have to wait until the morning for a response to my email.
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Whaa incog NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Truly there is no justice in the world. All we wanted was for you to be rewarded for all the good you've done and boom, the nutjobs win. I'm equally hysterical about that OP too. Let's move on and recover from this!
No.211274
Anonymous
Replies:>>211280
Complete bullshit. If digital murder is A-ok then other "illegal" things in digital media should be fine as well. Fuckers who can't tell reality from fantasy ruin everything.
No.211275
Anonymous
whats entry.jp? is it like pixiv? pateron?
No.211277
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
How to solve: get that domain you were talking about. Do it now. Fuck the third parties. You will never truly feel safe or know peace until your product fall under your total control. What you provide is a unique service ie: loli art requests, so administration and distribution of it requires extra care.
No.211280
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
>>211274
Yeah it's bullshit. We gotta play by the rules tho, Incog's survival depends on us playing ball
No.211281
Homer Solomon
Replies:>>211301
That's weird, I just looked at my patreon and your Loli stuff is still up but for some reason it says I'm not currently pledging you, wtf?.
No.211283
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
Sounds like legislation is changing, or about to change. Online entities are forced to comply. Mass censorship ensues. Is the reason for Jab's longevity in this game his lack of underage characters in his content? It's possible. Don't know anyone else doing commercial loli art long term, but I'm sure incog can be the first of his kind.
No.211284
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
>>211275
Enty is like japan patreon from what I understand
No.211285
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
incog if you want why not recreate your Patreon at lah.li it's a forum site that is free to join and they let people post loli pics and regular hentai
No.211287
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
I guess this is why marking your art with your Patreon address was seen as a bad idea. Aww well. Let the re-directs on all chans and forums begin. As soon as you decide on a new homepage, I'll mobilize.
No.211288
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
>>211266
Cindy as Cammy, nice pick.
No.211289
Anonymous
Replies:>>211290
Just redirect your pic to somewhere else.
No.211290
Anonymous
>>211289
Tru dat incog. Is it possible to conduct business at Patreon but direct to an external host for your art?
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Incog since it's october can you do a pic of the girl monsters from the scooby doo movie ghoul school doing any sexual thing you want cause you alwagroup ys choose good ideas for the girls to be doing in your pics
No.211295
Anonymous
>>211290
Other people beeing doing it.
No.211296
Anonymous
Replies:>>211301
What of Pixiv? Do they offer some monetary compensation for artists? I do know it has Premium account to access certain artworks (which I assume is how the site makes money). And unless I'm mistaken, Simon/Conoghi are regulars there.
No.211299
Anonymous
>>211266
Fantastic! As epic as last year's club trick or treat pic =D
No.211300
Anonymous
>>211266
Gwen looks as fuckable as ever I see.
No.211301
Incognitymous
Me again. Spent some time discussing options with people in Discord, had some words Just posting replies before bed.

>>211273
>Whaa incog NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Truly there is no justice in the world. All we wanted was for you to be rewarded for all the good you've done and boom, the nutjobs win. I'm equally hysterical about that OP too. Let's move on and recover from this!

Yeah, sad but it happened. I am sure it will be worked out with Patreon. I sent them an email about why I did what they did and what they did to lead me to make my assumption. If you send an email with a varying DKIM header, abandon your email template while using a completely different domain to send from while making no effort to use other methods of communication then it's tough to take the email seriously. Oh well, I just have to wait for support to open tomorrow.

>>211275
>whats entry.jp? is it like pixiv? pateron?

It's pretty much a combination of the two, so a Japanese Patreon. Was too much hassle to try and set up so I gave up. Too much hassle due to loose or no translation of a lot of pages. Couldn't even figure out how to add payment information.

>>211277
>How to solve: get that domain you were talking about. Do it now. Fuck the third parties. You will never truly feel safe or know peace until your product fall under your total control. What you provide is a unique service ie: loli art requests, so administration and distribution of it requires extra care.

The problem is the time in doing so and the fact that I need to get income back ASAP. I may be able to get assistance from someone within Jab/Pal in getting a domain for myself within the next few days. I'll likely be able to do something more in-depth with that and Patreon rewards. I just will not be able to claim Patreon as funding any loli content, which I will just have to consider personal stuff I do on the side.

>>211280
>Yeah it's bullshit. We gotta play by the rules tho, Incog's survival depends on us playing ball

Yeah, pretty much this. The only problem in this situation was the shady way they handled emailing me this information. If they had used any other form of communication or method to prove the validity of that seemingly false email then I would have responded appropriately. That's really the only thing that bothers me about this.

>>211281
>That's weird, I just looked at my patreon and your Loli stuff is still up but for some reason it says I'm not currently pledging you, wtf?.

I don't know, the take down happened differently for everyone. My profile still exists as a private profile that I cannot access. I just need their support to open back up so I can communicate with them.

>>211283
>Sounds like legislation is changing, or about to change. Online entities are forced to comply. Mass censorship ensues. Is the reason for Jab's longevity in this game his lack of underage characters in his content? It's possible. Don't know anyone else doing commercial loli art long term, but I'm sure incog can be the first of his kind.

Apparently the trick to doing commercial loli is to not claim any commercial funds as going to loli. I am sure Patreon would not have an issue with me utilizing Patreon in other ways while doing loli in my personal time. I simply will not be able to put any loli related rewards and all loli related content/discussion will have to be handled externally.

>>211284
>Enty is like japan patreon from what I understand

This. Sadly much like earlier Pixiv it is suffering from some translation issues.

>>211285
>incog if you want why not recreate your Patreon at lah.li it's a forum site that is free to join and they let people post loli pics and regular hentai

I hope to get my Patreon page back up but if not I will have to make a new one. I really would like to get my old domain back to increase the odds of past patrons finding me but regardless this is going to hurt me this month. I do not feel I need to use any other site as I have options for posting content I simply need to revise my Patreon to start.

>>211287
>I guess this is why marking your art with your Patreon address was seen as a bad idea. Aww well. Let the re-directs on all chans and forums begin. As soon as you decide on a new homepage, I'll mobilize.

It really wasn't that bad. If I had just not had the content on Patreon it would have been fine, but again, poorly handled communication made me mistake the email as phishing. I am hoping to have my own domain soon and hopefully in time be able to slowly find a way to remove Patreon from the situation.

>>211288
>Cindy as Cammy, nice pick.

I've been wanting to do that one for a while.

>>211290
>Tru dat incog. Is it possible to conduct business at Patreon but direct to an external host for your art?

That's the plan. I plan to start doing stuff with older characters for Patreon, especially since it's not like I don't have people asking me to do so and I have been planning to dip into older characters often but due to the mountain of loli requests never really got the chance to do so. With my page being taken down it is possible to get a fresh start where I market it differently while still providing at least an equal amount of loli content on the side in a separate domain that I do not market as Patreon funded. I am sure they will agree that what I do in my free time is not of concern as long as I market my Patreon towards something else.

>>211293
>Incog since it's october can you do a pic of the girl monsters from the scooby doo movie ghoul school doing any sexual thing you want cause you alwagroup ys choose good ideas for the girls to be doing in your pics

I definitely do not have the capacity for requests right now. Far more important things to work out while I finish up the last few guaranteed requests. Even though the page is down I received payment for them so they will be done.

>>211296
>What of Pixiv? Do they offer some monetary compensation for artists? I do know it has Premium account to access certain artworks (which I assume is how the site makes money). And unless I'm mistaken, Simon/Conoghi are regulars there.

Not that I know of. Only real good option seems to be Patreon or to take commissions via PayPal or something. I feel I have enough people that trust me enough to pay up front so that I do not get cheated but it's still something I would prefer not to do. I may have to do it in the short run based on Patreon's response tomorrow but given my detailed email of the situation and their general understanding I imagine it will go well.
No.211302
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
>>211301
>a Japanese Patreon. Was too much hassle to try and set up so I gave up. Too much hassle due to loose or no translation of a lot of pages. Couldn't even figure out how to add payment information.

Damn shame there, you'd be huge in Japan ;)
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>>211301
>I plan to start doing stuff with older characters for Patreon, especially since it's not like I don't have people asking me to do so and I have been planning to dip into older characters often but due to the mountain of loli requests never really got the chance to do so. With my page being taken down it is possible to get a fresh start where I market it differently.

So a new era begins where potentially, you only draw loli on the side. Gaahh. Out of nowhere. Curveball indeed.
No.211305
Anonymous
>>211301
It sorta does feel like the Patreon company was being pressured to weed out questionable content. Initially they would only have cared for all the dollars you were bringing to their site but authorities are still trying to censor what we see online. Setting up shop elsewhere could only lead to the same complications down the line right when you start to get momentum again and that would be heartbreaking. Getting a domain is definitely the most logical answer I can think of. I'd hate for you to keep having to start over.
No.211306
Trace.Reading
Replies:>>211332
You know I'd hire you.
No.211307
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
So incog do you get to keep your pledgers? Or are they gone, scattered in the wind. It's not like anyone can prove that their money was being spent on loli, can they?
No.211308
Liquidmark
Replies:>>211332
>>211304
Well, that sort of art is becoming more marginalized. Truthfully, when sites like hentai foundry banned that sort of work from being hosted on their site, it was a nail in the coffin for that sort of material.
No.211311
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
>>211305
>Getting a domain is definitely the most logical answer I can think of.

The problem is, how to handle payment processing? Most of the most common ones like Paypal will outright freeze your accounts (along with any money in it) if there's direct loli content. Some people get away with it by just selling 'commissions' of an undisclosed nature, but Incog doesn't really want to do that. Patreon at least offered a middle-man where they did all the work. If Incog gets his own site, then he has to do all the work and still have to risk it.

Unless you manage to do something where supporting on your totally-non-loli Patreon just gives you access to your totally legit non-loli website art forum (that, because you support freedom of expression, happens to have loli sections, and oops they happen to be the most active) where you can make requests/guaranteed requests/etc of whatever you like (maybe different sections of the forum can be locked to different patreon support tiers so people who pledge at the guaranteed request level can do so in your forum). But then you probably won't be able to advertise patreon for your loli work or your guaranteed requests that involve loli.
No.211317
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
Simple answer to this is to take donations for your 'non-worksafe' loli artwork through Patreon but post none of the work on Patreon.
To Liquidmark: Shove it where the son doesn't shine! There are TONS of websites offering lolicon stuff online today, more than before Hentai Foundry went the dipshit route.
No.211318
Anonymous
>>211301

Discord? what server? link please?
No.211323
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
>>211301
Cant you just do patreon loli reward offsite?
No.211326
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
i know of some patreon accounts that post links to specific pictures or videos rather than posting the picture itself. that might work in the future
No.211327
Anonymous
>>211266
So incog what tye plans for the your comics now?
No.211330
Anonymous
Replies:>>211332
>>211327
Well, if incog doesn't get his income stream back to a safe zone, he'll have to go back to work, which means less art being drawn and less comics along with it.
No.211332
Incognitymous
Replies:>>211334
Commenting on the situation at hand. Patreon acknowledged the way the situation was handled but apparently the damage is done and my account cannot be restored. I have been welcomed to make a new page as long as I do not fund loli content with it. Waiting for a response to see if I can at least get my old account back with everything removed so I can keep the account name/email associated. Will start up my page again as soon as I have a response to that final inquiry.

>>211302
>Damn shame there, you'd be huge in Japan ;)

Well the page would be in English with a western style so not so sure about that. It does though explicitly allow loli and would thus enable me to post everything there early with just a small black bar and them release it elsewhere on non JP servers without it. Would be more stable but the foreign payment issues are proving a hassle at this time, especially with the current poor site translation.

>>211304
>So a new era begins where potentially, you only draw loli on the side. Gaahh. Out of nowhere. Curveball indeed.

>>211305
>It sorta does feel like the Patreon company was being pressured to weed out questionable content. Initially they would only have cared for all the dollars you were bringing to their site but authorities are still trying to censor what we see online. Setting up shop elsewhere could only lead to the same complications down the line right when you start to get momentum again and that would be heartbreaking. Getting a domain is definitely the most logical answer I can think of. I'd hate for you to keep having to start over.

Yeah, sadly I do not know of any options for payment processing but that is what I can maybe aim for in the future. Sites that host said content and have been around 10+ years are still around and strong so I know there is some way to do it despite most options not supporting NSFW content. A domain is a great option as I can keep up communication on a larger scale that I can tag onto my works that is not Patreon. I'm not really worried about starting over at this point as I feel this was just one bad situation that was handled poorly.

>>211306
>You know I'd hire you.

Hell I may have to look for such offers if this keeps up.

>>211307
>So incog do you get to keep your pledgers? Or are they gone, scattered in the wind. It's not like anyone can prove that their money was being spent on loli, can they?

From what I heard back my page is gone, although this is rather odd as bookmarks and links can still access the content that has supposedly been removed. My account also still exists as a standard, private user account. The patrons are gone with my page but I can rebuild. They said so personally.

>>211308
>Well, that sort of art is becoming more marginalized. Truthfully, when sites like hentai foundry banned that sort of work from being hosted on their site, it was a nail in the coffin for that sort of material.

It's all the work of SJWs. We need a crusade.

>>211311
>The problem is, how to handle payment processing? Most of the most common ones like Paypal will outright freeze your accounts (along with any money in it) if there's direct loli content. Some people get away with it by just selling 'commissions' of an undisclosed nature, but Incog doesn't really want to do that. Patreon at least offered a middle-man where they did all the work. If Incog gets his own site, then he has to do all the work and still have to risk it.
>
>Unless you manage to do something where supporting on your totally-non-loli Patreon just gives you access to your totally legit non-loli website art forum (that, because you support freedom of expression, happens to have loli sections, and oops they happen to be the most active) where you can make requests/guaranteed requests/etc of whatever you like (maybe different sections of the forum can be locked to different patreon support tiers so people who pledge at the guaranteed request level can do so in your forum). But then you probably won't be able to advertise patreon for your loli work or your guaranteed requests that involve loli.

Payment processing is indeed the issue. That is where my idea of figuring out internet security options and the like to get certified seemed to be a good bet. I plan to discuss how it works with people with more knowledge on the subject but I know there are options outside of PayPal and Stripe as far as receiving payments. I just need to figure out what they are and how much technical know-how is required to utilize them.

Starting in December at the latest, given my current page growth, my goal was to start focusing solely on the Ben 10 comic while doing the Wanda x Pietro comic on the side. Sadly this ended up happening and has set that back. I will likely have to start doing something different on the side, like monochrome or flats comics that can be done on the side of whatever interesting older characters are mainstream. I've discussed options in Discord and post-graduation Iron Man: Armored Adventures ideas came up (so they are all 18+ while looking the same) but this would require colors to look accurate. There are also options like doing 2011 Cheetara with Lion-O and/or Tygra, Allura from the new Voltron (a top pick for me as she has that sort of Katara appeal) with whoever, or even dipping into anime stuff. I really would like to do something with Sanji and his sister from One Piece after seeing their relationship together while they were younger. There are definitely ideas out there that appeal to me that could be Patreon hosted. I simply need to get decided on one and then do my loli stuff on the side. As long as the Patreon is not used to directly fund the loli stuff I am sure the community would still be aware that receiving income from Patreon still indirectly helps me make it by paying my bills. I am sure Patreon will not consider what I do in my free time.

>>211317
>Simple answer to this is to take donations for your 'non-worksafe' loli artwork through Patreon but post none of the work on Patreon.
>To Liquidmark: Shove it where the son doesn't shine! There are TONS of websites offering lolicon stuff online today, more than before Hentai Foundry went the dipshit route.

Sadly my setup never worked as "donations", but we'll see what I can do. With this being my income I want to legit follow their rules as much as possible without making it impossible for me to do the other stuff I would like to do as well. As mentioned above, doing loli on the side on my own personal domain is not something that would likely ever have an effect on my Patreon page. As to the sites offering loli stuff today, while they are not that difficult to find the problem comes with adding commercial options to the mix. Not a lot of places to fund the posting of loli content.

>>211318
>Discord? what server? link please?

Already listed above. https://discord.gg/EjQvAqC

>>211323
>Cant you just do patreon loli reward offsite?

Not according to their terms. Not allowed on or off site.

>>211330
>Well, if incog doesn't get his income stream back to a safe zone, he'll have to go back to work, which means less art being drawn and less comics along with it.

This. Do not want to do this. Will likely have to raise my guaranteed request costs to more of a standard commission rate to make up for this situation and then adjust accordingly as I get back on track.

>>211327
>So incog what tye plans for the your comics now?

As mentioned above, do non-loli comics aside loli comics. Use the non-loli comics to advertise my Patreon, loli comics to advertise my new website once I can get something going.

>>211326
>i know of some patreon accounts that post links to specific pictures or videos rather than posting the picture itself. that might work in the future

Still not allowed. They may get away with it but they could still issue a warning at any time to remove it.
I know several other artists are doing images and movies that are probably crossing the line as well. UnidentifiedSFM has everything in his videos up to monster on loli. Same with MisterD.

I wonder if they have received those emails yet?
No.211334
Anonymous
Replies:>>211336
>>211332
>The patrons are gone with my page but I can rebuild.

Amazed that you can keep a level head through this. Stay strong incog. And you're right, we'll rebuild with Plan Bs and Cs.
No.211335
Anonymous
Replies:>>211336
>>211333
3D is a much worse offense IMO, as some of them are bordering on realistic.
No.211336
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

You read that link above correctly. Finally got my Patreon back up. I edited the disclaimer on the main page to sort of discuss the current situation but plan to make a more detailed post on my Patreon in a bit that is visible to everyone. I plan to start comics of characters in a less controversial age range while doing my personal projects on the side. This means I do not plan to stop what I have been doing but I will not longer have them associated with Patreon. It has been apparent to me that it is against their ToS to post my preferred content and I would like to adhere to their wishes.

I plan to keep all of my free content that I was about to post held back for a minute. I am looking into getting my own domain and would like to be able to release my current bulk of personal content with my new non-Patreon domain once it is available. I will be attempting to run my Patreon as legit as possible without it interfering too much with this other work. I will wait a few days and decide what to do with guaranteed request slots as well. With how heavy a blow this was I may sadly have to resort to more standard priced commission rates until I get things to a reasonable level again as income is quite important.

Now on to responses so I can eat then get back to getting things figured out after eating something.

>>211333
>I know several other artists are doing images and movies that are probably crossing the line as well. UnidentifiedSFM has everything in his videos up to monster on loli. Same with MisterD.
>
>I wonder if they have received those emails yet?

Not sure. It appears only a small list of people were hit and in my case all communication seemed to be with a single person in their Trust + Safety department. Not sure if it's a new person or if they are really pushing policies for some reason. Regardless I feel people should be extra careful about what they allow on Patreon but they still seem reasonable about it. They even went ahead and unlocked my old credentials for me so that I could restore my page to as close to as what it was before within a few hours of the request.

>>211334
>Amazed that you can keep a level head through this. Stay strong incog. And you're right, we'll rebuild with Plan Bs and Cs.

Meh, stuff happens. Stressing or worrying doesn't help. I always have contingency plans in life. Sadly at this point that contingency plan means dipping into my car fund... I promised my guaranteed request slot holders that I would grant them a last month before removing them from their slots but Patreon sort of forced my hand on that. As much as I would like to restore their slots I will likely have to raise prices a bit or reduce the conditions of the slots to something less in order to attempt to make up for the sudden loss. As soon as I get things stable again I want to work on getting these people their final slots back at the promised rate, assuming they still want them that is. I may be able to start doing so sooner but at a slower rate, such as granting one person or so a slot a month, but for now I cannot really afford to offer as much as I was before at the rates I was offering for.

>>211335
>3D is a much worse offense IMO, as some of them are bordering on realistic.

While I don't feel either should be an "offense" I do have to acknowledge that the realistic 3D stuff is where things start to become more likely to receive actual legal action. 2D animated loli is generally safer due to the fact that they don't generally even look human.
No.211337
Anonymous
>>211336
>2 patrons
>$16 a month

Godless heathens. Still, this is a triumph so we shall rejoice in it.
No.211338
Anonymous
Replies:>>211360
>>211336
>>211336
>I plan to start comics of characters in a less controversial age range while doing my personal projects on the side. This means I do not plan to stop what I have been doing but I will not longer have them associated with Patreon.
This means that the Ben 10 project will be continued? Sweet. How much monthly income you need?
No.211341
Anonyto
Replies:>>211342
Its back up! https://www.patreon.com/Incognitymous/posts Hurry reclaim your pledge! Help out ze master of arts
No.211342
Anonymous
Replies:>>211344
>>211341
Spread the word on this. Let's get incog back on top.
No.211344
Anonymous
>>211342
Area too.
No.211347
Anonymous
Are you not updating you Jab page anymore?
No.211349
Anonymous
Replies:>>211360
Now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode! Seriously though, this really sucks. I really hope that you can fix this and do what you wanna do instead of just doing requests that you have no interest in.
No.211350
Anonymous
Replies:>>211360
>>211347
He's got bigger fish to fry atm, ie: re-establishing his source of income so he can eat next week. The jab page can wait.
No.211353
Anonymous
>>211266>>211301
>If I had just not had the content on Patreon it would have been fine

Daaaaaaaaaamn.
It's always in wont of a nail.
No.211360
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here's just a copy/paste of my first Patreon post to give a status update just so I do not have to type all of the details again.

Hello fellow patrons. I really thank you all for coming back after the recent mishap that cost me this page. Above is a sketch exampling the first few pieces I will be doing for this Patreon to sort of get it started. My first target character is Princess Allura from Voltron: Legendary Defender. I will be using these for monochromatic/screen tone practice so these first few will not be colored. Going to try for more of a manga feel for images that I post here so that I can create content in less time.
As for the update of my status, I have been having discussion with someone as far as obtaining my own domain so that this recent mishap does not risk happening again. I will be using this Patreon as I get things set up on that end. As soon as I begin to get things set on a web page I will try and grant access to its progress to my patrons as well as grant early access to its content. It will eventually be a pay site as the person assisting me will be able to grant me access to such features. I do not plan for it to be any more expensive than my current patronage is and will be granting all of the same features as before. The only difference is that it will likely have a solid $10 access value as opposed to the current tier system, with possibly a more extended monthly program that can reduce the amount. Of course I will have to discuss the business end with my new host so do not quote these as exact details at this time.

Even after I get my page rolling I will still keep this Patreon up in the short term as a tip jar and as a means of doing commissions/guaranteed requests. Due to the hit to my income I just received these extra boosts will be necessary for a brief period. Not only did I abruptly lose an expected $1600 of income but getting my own domain set up will cost money, expected $316. On top of the financial costs I will be getting a blank slate to work with so there will be some development time to get a general site rolling. This expected time sink is one reason I will be sticking monochromatic for a brief period of time.

Once everything is up and rolling I will be able to return to my intended plans. However, since there has been some demand over the last year from people requesting that I draw my normal themes with more 18+ characters, which there is a selection of that I personally like, I may keep this Patreon up in the long run to weigh out how much demand these requests have. If this page is able to receive a comparable amount of support alongside my main page with a comparable amount of effort for the value then I will try and keep this rolling. It doesn't hurt to maintain a wider audience and it's not like there isn't a nice range of characters that I would like to do that fit this page's criteria.

Now for /pco/ specific responses.

>>211338
>This means that the Ben 10 project will be continued? Sweet. How much monthly income you need?

Of course it will. This is just another setback in the way of doing so. Really I only need like $1,000/month as a starting monthly income. $2,000/month would be better and have me actually above the poverty line where I live but I can make less work if it means I can draw my comics.

>>211347
>Are you not updating you Jab page anymore?

I will be. I don't want to release my stuff publicly until I have my domain up. This way I can tag it all for a little bit of bulk advertising since my current stuff that I am holding on to is from a variety of sources due to the nature of requests. Also, I still have 1.5 guaranteed requests to finish up, which I am making partial progress on every day as I know I'll finish them by the end of the month at this rate. I then need to do my calendar for the month. I'll need to decide and open some higher slots to make up a bulk of my lost income but my Patreon page seems to be jumping up a bit. What I end up having to go with and how much time setting up a domain takes is going to determine exactly when I can get back to my preferred projects.

>>211349
>Now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode! Seriously though, this really sucks. I really hope that you can fix this and do what you wanna do instead of just doing requests that you have no interest in.

There's actually quite a few characters 18+ that I do have interest in so there's enough to hold me off a brief period. This is just another one of life's setbacks for me but I'm making progress. Luckily it seems this setback opened up a better opportunity to be more "legit" with my work instead of trying to find a loophole to dodge rules and guidelines. AKA I'll be able to do loli in a more financially stable way.

>>211350
>He's got bigger fish to fry atm, ie: re-establishing his source of income so he can eat next week. The jab page can wait.

Pretty much this. My page was reset and I still got bills to pay along with another $316 to come up with. I can last for a month but now I am going to have to explain to people that I need to dip into our car fund to pay bills next month, which is not something I will be looking forward to. Getting things more financially stable for me is a top priority right now.
No.211362
Anonymous
>>211360
>I don't want to release my stuff publicly until I have my domain up.

Incog gets his Patreon taken down and the first thing people do is leaking his content. http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1998883 The internet amazes me.
You might want to give Drew Gardner a buzz
www.lovelyhell.com/
He set up shop on his own site like you want to and he might be able to give you some tips
No.211364
Anonymous
Replies:>>211411
>>211360
>Really I only need like $1,000/month as a starting monthly income. $2,000/month would be better and have me actually above the poverty line where I live but I can make less work if it means I can draw my comics.

Aim higher bro. This time next year you'll be living comfortably. You'll be laughing.
No.211365
Anonymous
Replies:>>211411
>>211360
>This is just another one of life's setbacks for me but I'm making progress. Luckily it seems this setback opened up a better opportunity to be more "legit" with my work

It's like all those beatdowns you got all your life allowed you to build your character into one that turns negatives into positives. It's extraordinary. Classic incog ;)
No.211366
Anonymous
Replies:>>211370
>>211363
Shadman got a site too
No.211370
Anonymous
Replies:>>211411
>>211366
He's HAD a site for quite some time, too.
No.211375
Anonymous
How exactly does Shadman not get hit by Patreon's anti-loli rules? He's got a ton of loli stuff, in fact his latest Patreon update is a WIP of his pin-up of a loli version of witch Mercy.
You can find some of Drews stuff here

https://drawcrowd.com/drewatlovelyhell

Seems his DA account is no longer working
No.211378
Anonymous
>>211375
Hmph. Is he making that much money for them he's become an exception to the rule?
No.211379
Anonymous
If you guys want them to be equals you're free to report shad.
No.211380
Anonymous
Replies:>>211384
>>211379
What a fantastic idea. So Patreon takes Incog down and Incog's fans take Shadman down. The average age in the internet is then 10.
No.211381
Anonymous
Replies:>>211411
>>211362
Leaked content from a paywall, pretty common Id say

Also, was that pic intended to be public or not?
Incog said that he doesn't want to release his works until he get a site but that means all his works or just some?
No.211382
Anonymous
>>211379
I'm pretty sure people have already reported Shad. He's got WAY more haters than Incog does.
No.211384
Anonymous
Replies:>>211385
>>211379
>>211380
ffs that's not what anyone was saying. Just that Shad has an independent website too, away from SJW interference, like Drew Gardner, and that incog could get advice from them if he wanted.
No.211385
Anonymous
>>211301
>If I had just not had the content on Patreon it would have been fine
So, in theory, could you go back to Patreon and just not host your pics there?

>>211384
The only SJW here is you. Stop telling people to censor. And go hate National Socialists somewhere else you whale.
No.211386
Anonymous
>>211375
The Mercy pinup is technically SFW, so no problem with parteon, and so it goes with everything Shad posts there. He got into serious trouble some years ago so I guess he knows how to walk the line these days.
No.211388
Anonymous
>>211385
He could, he was doing it before he started it uploding pics there.
No.211395
Anonymous
Replies:>>211411
>>211386
And loli Hillary won't get him in trouble?
Replies:>>211470
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here is the sort of style/content matter I intend to direct my Patreon towards at this time. I've made 4 such images since yesterday, one posted free on Jab due to having a partial younger character (Pidge) and now I am posting this one free. All of the Patreon related ones will be tagged with my Patreon link and everything not Patreon friendly will not. Again, sticking to monochrome/greys to have a bit more detail/volume while not taking as much time as colors. Doing quick tone practice pieces just to have stuff to post with my Patreon logo every day but will do a short comic with Allura. In a hurry so I'll leave it at that and post responses.

>>211362
>Incog gets his Patreon taken down and the first thing people do is leaking his content. http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1998883 The internet amazes me.

I'm not all that worried about it at this point as I normally would have released it free by nor but I still prefer it not be. I'd rather be able to release a bulk of stuff from a wider variety of material with my URL on it once I have one.

>>211363
>You might want to give Drew Gardner a buzz
>www.lovelyhell.com/
>He set up shop on his own site like you want to and he might be able to give you some tips

I'm pretty sure the person assisting me with this endeavor will be able to provide any assistance I need but thanks for the heads up.

>>211364
>Aim higher bro. This time next year you'll be living comfortably. You'll be laughing.

Meh, I'll only aim as high as I need to be. If I get more than that then I guess I'll just try and support other artists in obtaining better equipment for more loli/34 in general in the world.

>>211365
>It's like all those beatdowns you got all your life allowed you to build your character into one that turns negatives into positives. It's extraordinary. Classic incog ;)

Meh, you get used to it. Stressing over stuff never helps anyone.

>>211370
>How exactly does Shadman not get hit by Patreon's anti-loli rules? He's got a ton of loli stuff, in fact his latest Patreon update is a WIP of his pin-up of a loli version of witch Mercy.

Luck of the draw really. I've had a decent number of people that do not like me since day one. For some reason my haters tend to be more motivated to make things worse for me so I was probably reported by one of them.

>>211379
>If you guys want them to be equals you're free to report shad.

Now lets not do anything silly.

>>211381
>Also, was that pic intended to be public or not?
>Incog said that he doesn't want to release his works until he get a site but that means all his works or just some?

Nah, it wasn't, but if everything hadn't happened it should have been. I plan to release all of my works then and then tag them.

>>211385
>So, in theory, could you go back to Patreon and just not host your pics there?

In theory, but still not allowed. I'd still have the risk of being shut down and this time they wouldn't have to issue a warning as the prior one specifically mentioned that supporting said content off-site is still not allowed. Just because people can get away with it doesn't mean they will not eventually be caught/shut down. I'd rather not have that risk on my primary/only source of income.

>>211386
>The Mercy pinup is technically SFW, so no problem with parteon, and so it goes with everything Shad posts there. He got into serious trouble some years ago so I guess he knows how to walk the line these days.

Technicalities are not really okay. If it is sexually suggestive and an underage character it is not okay, regardless of what may or may not be visible. There is no legit line to walk in that regard with Patreon. If such content is linked to your Patreon in any way they can shut you down with or without warning.

>>211395
>And loli Hillary won't get him in trouble?

I definitely feel that is a risky move given it is an underage character based on a real person. I'm not 100% positive on the rules in that regard as they have never been relevant to my works but I am sure there are more legal complications there.
No.211413
Anonymous
Replies:>>211426
Incog, since you're drawing adults now, how about Korra? She's 18 in book two and 21 in book four.
No.211421
Anonymous
If I can toss in a recommendation for adults, how about Android 18 from Dragonball Super? Her new design kicks ass, even though she's been relegated to the Useless Wife Bin.
No.211422
Anonymous
Replies:>>211426
>>211421
she's a manga character
No.211423
noznorohc
Replies:>>211426
If anime is on the table I would like to suggest the women of Tenchi Muyo.
No.211424
Anonymous
Replies:>>211426
What are you planning on doing for the WIP's and archives of your old patreon for your former patrons? Like, if I supported the former patreon page and now I support the current one, will I still get the high res archives of the work you put up on the old one, or are they lost?
No.211426
Incognitymous
Replies:>>211431
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Just replies right now.

>>211413
>Incog, since you're drawing adults now, how about Korra? She's 18 in book two and 21 in book four.

I feel there are so many better options out there. Never was a fan of Korra personally. Design is great of course but the character was lacking in my mind. Doesn't mean I cannot do something with her if I had the right motivation but as of now I cannot think of anything with her based loosely off canon that interests me.

>>211421
>If I can toss in a recommendation for adults, how about Android 18 from Dragonball Super? Her new design kicks ass, even though she's been relegated to the Useless Wife Bin.

Well from what little I saw every main character outside of Goku and Vegeta has been sadly tossed into that bin so it's not something affecting her in particular. Still always been partial to her so will be open to it, but right now I'd rather stick to western characters until I can get my western loli stuff back up and running safely.

>>211422
>she's a manga character

This. Not a complete issue but one I'd rather hold off on until later.

>>211423
>If anime is on the table I would like to suggest the women of Tenchi Muyo.

That's a rather long list to sift through. Talking original cast only or any/all iterations?

>>211424
>What are you planning on doing for the WIP's and archives of your old patreon for your former patrons? Like, if I supported the former patreon page and now I support the current one, will I still get the high res archives of the work you put up on the old one, or are they lost?

Well I am definitely trying to get my guaranteed requests taken care of first, which I only have 2 left. Any of my guaranteed request patrons asking for their full resolution files have been receiving them as I get to it. Sadly I cannot promise too much for my former patrons as I have lost all patron information. My page is a completely new slate with no information left regarding my future page. All posts, patron/pledge lists, etc., are all gone and I apparently cannot get them back. If I had my patron list I would shoot out a PM to all past pledgers explaining the situation but I cannot.

Just to be sure my past pledgers can access the files I want to release all of October's files on some kind of file hosting site. Maybe I can remember some of my more active patrons but I had 200+ at the end so I cannot be held accountable for remembering names/emails, nor handling direct sending of files to all past patrons. The only way I can ensure past pledgers access said files is make them available to everyone. I plan to keep this Patreon as legit as possible while following in accordance with their guidelines so I cannot handle even linking of the files from there. Hopefully I can have at least a bare bones site up before the month ends to handle archive files and to resume my recent activities.
No.211429
Anonymous
Replies:>>211437
Do you have any other adults you'd like to draw or are you just gonna stick to princess allura until you get back to the loli stuff?
No.211431
Noznorohc
Replies:>>211437
>>211426
My personal favorites are ryoko, mihoshi, and washu.
Replies:>>211467
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Just posting a free piece and a status update. For this piece I went with an even flatter method to see how it would look. I felt it was sufficient for quicker pieces and would work well enough for side comics in the future. Not a lot of detail but more than just lines give. Now on to the status update.

Copy/paste of my status update:

tl;dr:
I now have my own domain. It will require a lot of work to get a site running. I also still have a couple pieces left for this month from last month. I will thus not be doing a new comic idea as intended at this time. I will do standalone images instead in the meantime, with maybe the possibility of standalone or two-page comics. Keep all characters discussed on Patreon age 18+.

Full description:
So I just got my own domain last night. I was messing with the control panel a bit to see what my options and tools for site creation are. I can mess with tools right now but I cannot make any immediate progress yet until my host manually implements some plugins into their server and grants the domain my pay account privileges. I am hoping this will be done by Monday. Once it is done I will try and get my site loaded with a default template and construct it from there. The purpose is to have something functional, disclaimer redirects and all, so that I may begin adding content. Once that is done I will begin the stages to customize the site with banners, headers, etc., for a personalized feel.

Given how much time I expect this to take I am going to not increase my work load any more than necessary at this time. I know I said to some that I wanted to do an Allura comic in a monochromatic format but I'll need to leave any comic format works for sudden one to two page inspirations at most. I plan to stick to the monochromatic format as well to aid with posting content under these restraints. I do not want to dedicate to any more larger projects until I have priorities taken care of. Once my site is running I will have more freedom to do what I'd like without restraint so that is the first step I'd like to take.

Since I do not plan to stick to any projects I am fine with jumping around between characters. If anyone has any character ideas they would like to suggest then feel free to do so. Just keep these characters at age 18 or older and I'll consider them. There is no guarantee that any specific characters/ideas will be selected but I'd like to hear back on what you'd all like to see. I really appreciate you all coming back after what happened and would like to do at least something in return with the time restraints imposed.

And now replies:

>>211429
>Do you have any other adults you'd like to draw or are you just gonna stick to princess allura until you get back to the loli stuff?

I was going to stick with Allura and do a simple comic but I had a change of heart after suddenly deciding to pay the money for my domain immediately. I will need to invest time heavily into this so I will likely just skip around and do simple pieces in the meantime of adult characters. That's not to say after I decide how much time I have available for commissions that I cannot do some loli commissions handled solely via email, but for the sake of patrons that returned I will be taking adult character suggestions.

>>211431
>My personal favorites are ryoko, mihoshi, and washu.

I remember seeing Tenchi Muyo back when it aired on Toonami and I still remember all of the characters in detail. Guess that goes to show I liked them all quite a bit. I always preferred Washu in her smaller form but sadly that's out. I do remember though having too strong of an interest with Mihoshi so there's a greater chance I'll do something with her, although an angry threesome involving Tenchi, Ayeka and Ryoko could be fun.
No.211438
Pepipopo
>>211266
Wha WHAT? OK BUDDY WHAT DID I MISSED?
No.211439
Anonymous
Replies:>>211484
Someone said that now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode as a joke but I actually think that's not a bad idea. I think you drew her once a long, long time ago.
No.211440
Anonymous
No.211442
Anonymous
Replies:>>211484
How about Wonder Woman? You already drew wonder loli.
No.211443
Pepipopo
>>211375
>https://drawcrowd.com/drewatlovelyhell

Dude, its just a matter of time, just because he hasnt got hit, does not mean he is not a target :(, its a shame, as for myself, i took no goddamn chances and had to purge my page myself, and see what happens.

I mean fuck, who guarantees that someone's patreon wouldn't get hit if they remove all the loli anyways?
No.211444
Pepipopo
Replies:>>211484
Welp i took a look at Enty's payment methods, and they SUPPOSEDLY take Paypal...........

But since its japanese, i bet ANY MONEY that they only take Paypal Accounts LINKED TO CREDIT CARD OR BANK ACCOUNTS!, So its almost no point on using Paypal if you still need a credit card, totally does not defeat th point DERP DU DERP!!

Can someone veryfy?
No.211446
Anonymous
Have you ever thought of coming up with an OC to act as a decoy so you could post that on Patreon instead of the actual work that people would be paying you for.
No.211447
Trace.Reading
Replies:>>211484
Mihoshi is best waifu. I definitely hope to see you do some art of her in the near future.
No.211448
Anonymous
>>211446
For what purpose?
No.211453
Pepipopo
>>211305
>authorities are still trying to censor what we see online.

Not authorities, but the special snowflakes.
No.211454
Anonymous
Hmmm ... i can suggest something, in France they have a site like Patreon named "Tipeee", https://www.tipeee.com/ , you create an account and everyone can give you a "tip" (Thanks Captain Obvious), but like I said it's french so ... it's only in "euro" or can we use "dollars" too ?
No.211455
Anonymous
>>211454
You think Incog didn't have anybody pledging to his Patreon in Euro?
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Incog maybe for the November calendar you can use Tiger Lily from disney's peter pan and do a thanksgiving theme
No.211461
Anonymous
>>211457
I'm certain incog has said a few times that the calendars don't follow holiday themes.
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>>211437
>I remember seeing Tenchi Muyo back when it aired on Toonami and I still remember all of the characters in detail. Guess that goes to show I liked them all quite a bit. I always preferred Washu in her smaller form but sadly that's out. I do remember though having too strong of an interest with Mihoshi so there's a greater chance I'll do something with her, although an angry threesome involving Tenchi, Ayeka and Ryoko could be fun.
>>211437
>I remember seeing Tenchi Muyo back when it aired on Toonami and I still remember all of the characters in detail. Guess that goes to show I liked them all quite a bit. I always preferred Washu in her smaller form but sadly that's out. I do remember though having too strong of an interest with Mihoshi so there's a greater chance I'll do something with her, although an angry threesome involving Tenchi, Ayeka and Ryoko could be fun.

I'd really love to see a Mihoshi (perhaps wearing nothing but Tenchi's jacket) under your pen! But an angry TenchixRyokoxAyeka threesome? If we're talking OAV version, I think they worked things out... (but whether that remains so in the upcoming OAV episodes remains to be seen.)
No.211470
Anonymous
Replies:>>211484
>>211411

The black, white, and grey shading makes me think you should make a manga style comic one day.
No.211471
Anonymous
>>211461
yea but Tiger Lily would be nice to add to the loli club
No.211472
Anonymous
Replies:>>211476
>>211461
yea but Tiger Lily would be nice to add to the loli club
No.211476
Anonymous
Replies:>>211483
>>211471
>>211472
sorry for posting it twice the submit buttion was not working right
No.211483
Anonymous
>>211476
So you decided to post a third post?
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

One last Allura image for now. Moved on to other characters due to apparent lack of demand for her. No status update at this time on my site situation. I have gotten no notification on the update I had hoped would be done today so it is what it is. Really it was a "Monday at the earliest" type situation so I'm not too shocked it may be another day or so. Someone else's time/attention is required in all of this so I am waiting patiently for news. Not much else to say on that.

>>211438
>Wha WHAT? OK BUDDY WHAT DID I MISSED?

Patreon nuked my page. No biggy. They gave back my credentials and let me make a new one.

>>211439
>Someone said that now you can draw Gwen from the Ben 10,000 episode as a joke but I actually think that's not a bad idea. I think you drew her once a long, long time ago.

It's an idea but not one I'm really all that interested in. I'm saving more Gwen for when it's loli time again.

>>211442
>How about Wonder Woman? You already drew wonder loli.

Don't really know too much about Wonder Woman to have any real interest, although I do have to say I've been wanting to do something related to her in that new outfit from that newer animated Justice League movie and that loli that gave her ice cream for the first time (and maybe the guy they got it from). Wonder Woman was quite adorable in that movie with how eccentric she was.

>>211444
>Welp i took a look at Enty's payment methods, and they SUPPOSEDLY take Paypal...........
>
>But since its japanese, i bet ANY MONEY that they only take Paypal Accounts LINKED TO CREDIT CARD OR BANK ACCOUNTS!, So its almost no point on using Paypal if you still need a credit card, totally does not defeat th point DERP DU DERP!!
>
>Can someone veryfy?

I tried making an account and Enty but got lost at the payment stage. They do take PayPal but the option disappears when translated into English. I am thinking this may be due to some kind of JP PayPal only limitation or simply due to them not having the step translated yet. They are still working on the translations and thus many pages are missing files or do not work properly when in a translated page. I will say right now that Google translate does not help in figuring out these pages.

>>211446
>Have you ever thought of coming up with an OC to act as a decoy so you could post that on Patreon instead of the actual work that people would be paying you for.

I don't see how that would help. Also, I am not using any workarounds regarding Patreon's terms. That is what I am working on getting a site for. If this is going to be my primary source of income I do not want it to be something I am worried about being found out and shut down at a moment's notice. I need more stability than that.

>>211447
>Mihoshi is best waifu. I definitely hope to see you do some art of her in the near future.

She is great waifu material. Definitely a consideration.

>>211454
>Hmmm ... i can suggest something, in France they have a site like Patreon named "Tipeee", https://www.tipeee.com/ , you create an account and everyone can give you a "tip" (Thanks Captain Obvious), but like I said it's french so ... it's only in "euro" or can we use "dollars" too ?

Not really going to work for my purposes, although when I have a site I guess I could put a donate button to have sort of the same thing?

>>211457
>Incog maybe for the November calendar you can use Tiger Lily from disney's peter pan and do a thanksgiving theme

None of the calendar pieces are holiday themed, and none of the characters are chosen simply for the season/holiday. I'll keep the character in mind though but I still need to get to the October calendar.

>>211467
>I'd really love to see a Mihoshi (perhaps wearing nothing but Tenchi's jacket) under your pen! But an angry TenchixRyokoxAyeka threesome? If we're talking OAV version, I think they worked things out... (but whether that remains so in the upcoming OAV episodes remains to be seen.)

Hey, just because they worked things out doesn't mean there cannot be underlying hostilities when it comes to sharing Tenchi.

>>211470
>The black, white, and grey shading makes me think you should make a manga style comic one day.

That is actually what the intent of these was for. To get practice as to how things look to do side projects in the style. I'm doing something sort of like that with older Sokka/Katara right now.

>>211471
>yea but Tiger Lily would be nice to add to the loli club
I'll keep her in mind.
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>>211484
>I'm saving more Gwen for when it's loli time again.

Thanks incog. The need to see her naked grows exponentially by the hour.
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>>211484
>To get practice as to how things look to do side projects in the style.

Sir you need to look into Kate from World Conquest Zvezda. She is literally the leader of a crew of supervillains. Gives Lucky Girl a run for her money in the sass department.
No.211491
Anonymous
>>211484
Surprised there's a lack of response to Allura. On to the next anime starlet it is. Ps: can't go wrong with fighting girls. The idea of those buff bodies being stripped naked appeals to some.
No.211492
Anonymous
Replies:>>211506
>>211484
Damn, that's some sloppy anal. You should draw this fluid-heavy stuff more often.
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>>211489
that loli rubdown episode
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>>211493
No.211495
Anonymous
Replies:>>211506
How are you finding the refurb process so far incog, is it safe to say that a lot of loli fans have left Patreon? Or are they waiting for your new official webpage to be operational?
No.211499
Anonymous
Incog, are you going to stick with this black and white style for your patreon? I think you should, this looks just as good as the real thing and you said it takes less time. And you can do your normal coloring/shading on your website when you have it.
No.211500
Anonymous
Replies:>>211506
>>211499

^, he should also use this style for any small projects that he wants to do but doesn't have that much time.
No.211504
Anonymous
Replies:>>211506
What're you gonna name your website incog?
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Okay, content update. Was wrong yesterday about that being the last Allura piece. Didn't have this one exported into the right location so I forgot it was yet to be uploaded. NOW it's the last Allura for now.

>>211489
>Sir you need to look into Kate from World Conquest Zvezda. She is literally the leader of a crew of supervillains. Gives Lucky Girl a run for her money in the sass department.

I'm well aware of Kate. Definitely a great loli but I still prefer to stick to western material. Japan already produces plenty of anime loli.

>>211491
>Surprised there's a lack of response to Allura. On to the next anime starlet it is. Ps: can't go wrong with fighting girls. The idea of those buff bodies being stripped naked appeals to some.

Agreed. I didn't expect a massive response but she got practically zero. I guess Voltron seems to attract the yaoi crowd more than anything.

>>211492
>Damn, that's some sloppy anal. You should draw this fluid-heavy stuff more often.

It seems simpler to do so using this style. We'll see how often I do so.

>>211495
>How are you finding the refurb process so far incog, is it safe to say that a lot of loli fans have left Patreon? Or are they waiting for your new official webpage to be operational?

I'd imagine a lot of them have left or simply don't know it's up. Fans of loli in it for the loli are not as likely to fund a non-loli page after all. I'd like to hope I get them back after the site is operational but sadly I feel there may have been some damage done due to Patreon just setting my account to private and not informing people they took the page down.

>>211499
>Incog, are you going to stick with this black and white style for your patreon? I think you should, this looks just as good as the real thing and you said it takes less time. And you can do your normal coloring/shading on your website when you have it.

I do plan to stick with it for Patreon. This is actually the style I have mentioned quite a few times in the past about wanting to get into trying out. I figured now was as good a time as any to try it out with my old page being torn down and all. It is effective at defining volume and shine effects while being very quick to do. It takes just a single value layer with about 3-4 different shades of gray and an additional multiply layer. I may actually do some loli projects in this style in the future as well due to how much more I enjoy it by cutting out the coloring process. Coloring takes so long and just seems too monotonous for my tastes. I'd rather just do another page than spend the time doing so.

>>211500
>^, he should also use this style for any small projects that he wants to do but doesn't have that much time.

Definitely a plan.

>>211504
>What're you gonna name your website incog?

Definitely something related to my name.
No.211508
Anonymous
Replies:>>211509
>>211506
>I didn't expect a massive response but she got practically zero.
Ehh. People don't really expect non-loli for you. I guess if they want Allura they'd go to other artists.
No.211509
Anonymous
>>211508
That's a misconception.
No.211513
Anonymous
So here's a new one, patreon is now deleting fanart as well on November.
No.211514
Anonymous
Replies:>>211519
>>211513

Seriously? what's your source on this?
No.211515
Anonymous
>>211513
Poor Patreon CEOs are being scared into submission by copyright laws perhaps
No.211519
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Just posting a response after verifying something.

>>211513
>So here's a new one, patreon is now deleting fanart as well on November.

>>211514
>Seriously? what's your source on this?

>>211515
>Poor Patreon CEOs are being scared into submission by copyright laws perhaps

Apparently this is all true. I was finally able to confirm it at: https://www.patreon.com/legal

Under the creator section there is an explicit comment stating that creators may not : "Create content or rewards using intellectual property you do not own or do not have written permission to use."

Since this specifies both "content" and "rewards" it applies to anything funded by and/or posted on Patreon. This is going to be damaging to pretty much any 34 artists on Patreon. I guess we'll all have to make our own OCs or drop out of Patreon. Hopefully I'll have my own site by then but if not what does everyone think would be the best thing to do with Patreon?
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>>211519
>Hopefully I'll have my own site by then but if not what does everyone think would be the best thing to do with Patreon?

Son of a b.. They're making the rules up as they go! Can you ditch them, is that an option?!
No.211521
Anonymous
Replies:>>211542
>>211519
An excuse to create an original character perhaps? But even then she won't be loli so what's the point lol
No.211522
Pepipopo
Replies:>>211525
>>211519
>>211515
>>Poor Patreon CEOs are being scared into submission by copyright laws perhaps
>
>Apparently this is all true. I was finally able to confirm it at: https://www.patreon.com/legal
>
>Under the creator section there is an explicit comment stating that creators may not : "Create content or rewards using intellectual property you do not own or do not have written permission to use."
>
>Since this specifies both "content" and "rewards" it applies to anything funded by and/or posted on Patreon. This is going to be damaging to pretty much any 34 artists on Patreon. I guess we'll all have to make our own OCs or drop out of Patreon. Hopefully I'll have my own site by then but if not what does everyone think would be the best thing to do with Patreon?

FUCK!

JUST...................FUCK!
No.211523
Pepipopo
Replies:>>211524
>>211515
The only "laws" they are submitting are the ones of the Special Snowflakes.
No.211524
Anonymous
>>211523
You have a source on that or you're just saying?
No.211525
Anonymous
>>211522
Hehe don't you have an original character too Pepi? Oh yeah, she's loli >__<
No.211527
Anonymous
>>211519
>"Create content or rewards using intellectual property you do not own or do not have written permission to use."

I wonder how fair use laws would play into this. Patreon artists who make R34 ARE making money from somebody else's IP, even if it's technically a blanket donation by fans for living expenses. If they had to settle a dispute, I'm guessing they'd probably choose to immediately comply with any C&D request instead of making a case for the artist, as evidenced by their new TOS. If they actually start enforcing this, the only way to make a living from Patreon would be to make nothing but OC, and release any type of R34 fanart on an external site for free where fair use actually has some ground. Even commissions or "VIP" site access could technically run into the same problem if Disney or Nick or whoever starts sending out fuck you letters signed by their legal team, which they inevitably will if the site gets large enough and makes actual money. I wonder how Palcomix is still up and running, for that matter.
No.211528
Anonymous
>>211527
>I wonder how fair use laws would play into this.

Probably will have no positive effect for our side. I bet patreon's tou change has to do with the soon to be passed trans pacific partnership which is going to worsen copyright law. Fair use is weakened under tpp; made optional while prosecuting copyright infringement is mandatory.
No.211531
Anonymous
>>211528
Catalysed by music/ movie piracy no doubt. Corporations (ie: Man of Action) aside, Patreon profiting from Incog's Gwen porn could be likened to Ultimo profiting from edits of Incog's Gwen porn.
No.211532
Anonymous
>>211531
Ultimo gets no profit from the edits.
No.211534
Anonymous
Replies:>>211542
maybe you can use your patreon for requests that involve characters people have made up? I guess that would be kinda cool.
No.211540
Anonymous
Replies:>>211542
>>211519
I imagine if this is actually enforced, which who knows if it will be, a lot of artists will post some OC stuff once a month then just keep all the actual content off site.
No.211541
Anonymous
Replies:>>211542
What if you don't have your own website by November? What're you gonna do?
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here is my first free update today. This one was a practice piece before doing a comic of the two. It's just Katara and Sokka aged to where I feel is in between their adult models and their younger models, using the older models to work off of. I then started a comic of these two that currently has 3 pages on Patreon as well as a cover that I am about to post here after this one. Just want to put out there what I'm currently doing to fund things as I continue to try and change the current situation.

>>211520
>Son of a b.. They're making the rules up as they go! Can you ditch them, is that an option?!

If they enforce this new policy strictly then I may very well try and ditch them. Not an option currently but will definitely be one when I get a site running. It's not a lot but I can say there is progress on that front.

>>211521
>An excuse to create an original character perhaps? But even then she won't be loli so what's the point lol

That's what I was considering. I could just make my own characters and make quick monochrome comics of them like my current one. One big problem for me was a lack of interest in a lot of older characters, not because of appearance but because of the characters themselves. I guess I could just make my own characters/situations if it came down to it, at least until I got other options established. Who knows though. I've never given such a thing a try so I may come to like it more than I expected.

>>211527
>I wonder how fair use laws would play into this. Patreon artists who make R34 ARE making money from somebody else's IP, even if it's technically a blanket donation by fans for living expenses. If they had to settle a dispute, I'm guessing they'd probably choose to immediately comply with any C&D request instead of making a case for the artist, as evidenced by their new TOS. If they actually start enforcing this, the only way to make a living from Patreon would be to make nothing but OC, and release any type of R34 fanart on an external site for free where fair use actually has some ground. Even commissions or "VIP" site access could technically run into the same problem if Disney or Nick or whoever starts sending out fuck you letters signed by their legal team, which they inevitably will if the site gets large enough and makes actual money. I wonder how Palcomix is still up and running, for that matter.

That's the big problem with this policy. There are so many technicalities that they are not addressing. I feel like they are making this policy as a way to enable themselves to just pull things they do not like. Copyright law directly states under fair use that, "...“transformative” uses are more likely to be considered fair. Transformative uses are those that add something new, with a further purpose or different character, and do not substitute for the original use of the work." Rule 34 work is generally protected as it falls under parody as "a piece of writing, music, etc., that imitates the style of someone or something else in an amusing way" as well as qualifying as transformative as it generally serves only a pornographic purpose and does not attempt to substitute for the original. Heck, in my experience people often times will check out source material if they find enough appealing porn of the character(s), so if it's accurate to the source then it tends to prove as helpful marketing for the original.

The real problem is that they simply used the term "intellectual property" with no further explanation. Technically anyone streaming a game is creating content with intellectual property they do not own, and most likely did not get written approval to stream. This requirement would prevent streamers from being able to impulsively try out fan recommendations as they would need to first send out a request to the developers and then await a response. I can't imagine any gaming company would turn them down if they just wanted to stream but it's the fact that they would have to do it. I've been discussing this issue with people and some people still seem to feel that fair use laws will still be applied, but if that's the case then there was no point in this change in policy as copyright law is already mentioned in their terms. I know someone that's awaiting a response to an email sent for confirmation on their intent but they seem to be taking an exceptionally long time to reply on this matter. I feel it's another unprofessional decision on their part to be implementing such a change in policy without explaining their intent in more than a sentence.

>>211528
>Probably will have no positive effect for our side. I bet patreon's tou change has to do with the soon to be passed trans pacific partnership which is going to worsen copyright law. Fair use is weakened under tpp; made optional while prosecuting copyright infringement is mandatory.

That could be it. I haven't really looked into the details of that thing as it hasn't actually been enacted yet but it was signed earlier this year. Maybe big corporations have early access to the important details of the act as I hear the public information is just leaks/opinion. Maybe I'll try and give it a look but I cannot imagine an agreed upon international copyright policy would restrict fair use too much without first resorting to issuing out warnings about content before taking any legal action.

>>211531
>Catalysed by music/ movie piracy no doubt. Corporations (ie: Man of Action) aside, Patreon profiting from Incog's Gwen porn could be likened to Ultimo profiting from edits of Incog's Gwen porn.

Well that depends on how you look at it. Some people view it more as buying the time/experience of the artist. Say for example I take commissions via Patreon. I am not selling any specific intellectual property as I am leaving it solely up to the commissioner to decide what I draw. If someone walked up to you on the street and said, "I'll pay you $50 to do a quick sketch of Gwen Tennyson.", do you think you should be punished for fulfilling their request? Fair use laws protect parodies as well as transformative works, even when done commercially, but they would not protect releasing entire episodes of a show commercially while providing your own dubs. There are important technicalities that come into play, primarily based on the creator's intent.

>>211534
>maybe you can use your patreon for requests that involve characters people have made up? I guess that would be kinda cool.

I could do that. Sort of a "post your own OC" pool where people can post their own OCs, thus giving me permission to use them. I could also rule it out of the "no raffle" limitation that Patreon has as I could word it as a "grant me permission to use your OCs" discussion.

>>211540
>I imagine if this is actually enforced, which who knows if it will be, a lot of artists will post some OC stuff once a month then just keep all the actual content off site.

Pretty much that. I'd imagine that is how artists will do it, especially with the ability to embed private links into pledge distributed Discord servers. I could work on doing this but I want something a bit more secure in the long run.

>>211541
>What if you don't have your own website by November? What're you gonna do?

Probably stick with OCs for a minute. We are still awaiting a response from Patreon concerning how fair use comes into play, referencing some Patreon pages in particular that produce different kinds of content with many IPs, varying from streaming/illustrating. How they respond will determine my options for Patreon in the future.
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

And here's the cover for the comic I mentioned featuring slightly older Sokka/Katara.
No.211544
Anonymous
Replies:>>211597
>>211542
>>211543
I love your older character art. I know people like their loli but I would really love to see more!
No.211545
Anonymous
Welp! That makes another site in recent times that bans this type of art. There was Furry Network in May, Picarto in December of last year, and fucking Reddit in August of last year. Why is this ONE genre of art with cute looking characters so much worse than a triple-boobed furry shemale shitting in someone's mouth? When will it end?
No.211546
Anonymous
Replies:>>211597
Incog, I know you've said before that you didn't like how they made adult Gwen look. What if you design your ideal adult version of her and Ben? It'd be really interesting to see what you come up with.
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Incog how about adding margo from Dispicable me to the loli club she is 12
No.211548
Anonymous
Replies:>>211597
>>211543
Well well well here's hoping they don't outlaw INCEST on the internet anytime soon ;)
No.211551
Anonymous
Replies:>>211597
>>211542
>Some people view it more as buying the time/experience of the artist.

Exactly it's a matter of perspective. I agree with you completely but Man of Action for example would be up in arms about said artists profiting from what they made and might see it as 'bootleg merchandise' of their intellectual property etc.. In a farfetched alternate scenario of law they would probably approve of official Gwen porn drawn by you but only if they got a percentage of your earnings haha. The noose tightening is pretty much why Patreon appears to be screwing everyone over.
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>>211542
>Just want to put out there what I'm currently doing to fund things as I continue to try and change the current situation.

I hate that they're changing you, dictating what you draw. Can't wait for you to be free of it.
No.211555
Anonymous
Replies:>>211597
>>211542
>I could do that. Sort of a "post your own OC" pool where people can post their own OCs, thus giving me permission to use them.

Shame they can't be loli OCs, right?
No.211556
Anonymous
Replies:>>211597
>>211542
>>211543
Looking forward to a lot of highly inappropriate, kinky, filthy dirty talk between loving siblings in this new story incog ^^
No.211557
netjunkie13
Replies:>>211597
>>211506
>>211491
>>Surprised there's a lack of response to Allura. On to the next anime starlet it is. Ps: can't go wrong with fighting girls. The idea of those buff bodies being stripped naked appeals to some.
>
>Agreed. I didn't expect a massive response but she got practically zero. I guess Voltron seems to attract the yaoi crowd more than anything.

Apologies, I'm a bit of a lurker and I'm willing to bet there are others like me. I quite enjoyed pics and you've certainly inspired me to increase the show's priority in my netflix queue. Maybe right after I finish Grojband.
No.211562
Anonymous
>>211543
Nice, can always count on good Avatar content from you.
No.211581
Anonymous
Incog, you need to make more pics like the sultry summer cover and this cover. I don't know why but they're hotter than pictures with nudity.
No.211588
Anonymous
>>211581
The magic of SFW
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here is page 1 of the Steamy Afterparty comic. This is the style I am going with to make things quicker. No background details to worry about, less time spent adding volume due to no colors and no paneling necessary. Dialogue bubbles and such are all done in Clip Studio Paint so there is no exporting/importing to/from Photoshop. Less type options available that way but saves me a little time. Using this method I can pop out about 1-2 pages a day so it's definitely faster and serves as a good temporary alternative while I get things sorted out.

Also, got an official response from Patreon regarding their change in policy albeit 2 days late. The question asked directly about creating rewards with popular characters and in the question was a creator that posted SFW pinups of characters they did not own as well as one that posted streams while playing games they did not own. Here was the response:

"Hey there,

Thanks so much for writing in and great question!

What this means is that we do not allow a creator to take something that they did not create and play it off as their own.

Both of the creators you have mentioned aren't taking the game or characters and saying that they invented them and that they are theirs. They are adding their own touch to it and providing a very different experience.

Even though both of these cases use things that are already in existence, they aren't claiming those ideas or things to be their own.

An example would be if I were to take a comic, photo, painting, or show and offer it as a reward while claiming it was my original artwork.

Hope this helps and if you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to let me know!"

This means they still apply free use to the rewards. Why they felt like making the change in their terms at all is now beyond me as that was already stated in their DMCA procedures as well as their terms of use regarding intellectual properties/copyright. Luckily in the end this means no worries about future 34 comics on Patreon as long as they are 18+ characters, although I may dip into an OC comic or two just to try out the waters. There's not many canon 18+ animated characters that are actually interesting beyond their physical appearance so that would be an issue down the road for me anyway. At least making characters I can attempt to alleviate that.

>>211544
>I love your older character art. I know people like their loli but I would really love to see more!

Glad you like it. I've actually had many people tell me they like my stuff but are not into loli so they would appreciate older characters. I have been intending to do such things for a while just for variety as it's not like I am against developed characters in any way. I've just been too busy due to the amount of loli that has been requested over the last year since I opened my Patreon. I figured now would be a good opportunity to dip into this criteria as well as try out the monochrome comic approach since my usual stuff is not allowed on Patreon and I'd still like to offer concrete pledge rewards.

>>211546
>Incog, I know you've said before that you didn't like how they made adult Gwen look. What if you design your ideal adult version of her and Ben? It'd be really interesting to see what you come up with.

I actually liked OS adult Ben/Gwen in that future timeline episode so I would just go with those. I just didn't like the design choices for Gwen in Alien Force, Ultimate Alien, or Omniverse. Young Omniverse Gwen was okay, but was just a lesser OS Gwen so she's not really an interesting choice to draw.

>>211547
>Incog how about adding margo from Dispicable me to the loli club she is 12

Stylistically too far off.

>>211548
>Well well well here's hoping they don't outlaw INCEST on the internet anytime soon ;)

That would be a damn shame but it wouldn't shock me at this point.

>>211551
>Exactly it's a matter of perspective. I agree with you completely but Man of Action for example would be up in arms about said artists profiting from what they made and might see it as 'bootleg merchandise' of their intellectual property etc.. In a farfetched alternate scenario of law they would probably approve of official Gwen porn drawn by you but only if they got a percentage of your earnings haha. The noose tightening is pretty much why Patreon appears to be screwing everyone over.

Well the thing about copyright law is that it is not about preventing people from being able to profit from existing properties but rather about preventing people from negatively affecting the original creator's ability to profit from it. This is why fair use and transformative use laws exist. Man of Action does not create any pornographic stories of their characters. Since my usage of the characters is a pornographic parody of their characters in a format that does not attempt to replace usage of the original content it is most likely to fall within fair use of copyright. Sure, Man of Action could still issue me a DMCA as that is their reserved right for any intellectual property that they own regardless of whether or not they would have a case in court. Of course I would comply anyway simply out of respect even if I knew they had nothing on me.

>>211554
>I hate that they're changing you, dictating what you draw. Can't wait for you to be free of it.

They're not changing me too much. They're just delaying my main content. This has happened so many times I'm used to it. As mentioned above I planned to do stuff with older characters eventually anyway for those that do not like loli and I had already been contemplating doing stuff with older characters as my side projects while working on my loli main projects just for variety. The fun part for me with comics is the scenario and character interactions. Unless the character is simply not attractive I will have fun with it regardless of character age.

>>211555
>Shame they can't be loli OCs, right?

A damn shame.

>>211556
>Looking forward to a lot of highly inappropriate, kinky, filthy dirty talk between loving siblings in this new story incog ^^

Yeah, pretty much the direction I would go with OCs. Not just make one but rather a full or partial family.

>>211557
>Apologies, I'm a bit of a lurker and I'm willing to bet there are others like me. I quite enjoyed pics and you've certainly inspired me to increase the show's priority in my netflix queue. Maybe right after I finish Grojband.

Hey, no problem. Glad you liked them. It just remains true that they did not receive much of a response here, on Paheal or on Patreon. The demand seemed far too low for me to really have an interest pursuing anything further with the character.

>>211581
>Incog, you need to make more pics like the sultry summer cover and this cover. I don't know why but they're hotter than pictures with nudity.

The power of SFW is indeed strong. I'll likely do more stuff like it in the future.
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>>211597
Haha "Hey guys, we're *****20***** YEARS OLD and NOT REMOTELY UNDERAGE :D How you like DEM apples, Patreon and Government??!!"
No.211601
Anonymous
Replies:>>211603
>>211597
>Why they felt like making the change in their terms at all is now beyond me

They're morons, making the rules up as they go. Here's hoping the Trump government puts a stop to all these intrusive new censorship laws (sarcasm).

> I may dip into an OC comic or two just to try out the waters. There's not many canon 18+ animated characters that are actually interesting beyond their physical appearance..

Can't wait for you introduce us to your new friends!
No.211603
Anonymous
>>211601
>making the rules up as they go
Actually, having had a patreon account for the last two years and having actually read the terms when I signed up, loli and fanart were already forbidden. It's not a change in policy, they merely reworded it in a clearer way.
No.211604
Pepipopo
So......let me understand, they are STILL alowing Fanart at the very least? yes or no?
No.211605
Anonymous
>>211603
Was referring more about the banning of fanart issue that arose here >>211513
No.211607
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

So I just made a Discord channel to discuss the final 2 calendar girls here: https://discord.gg/3Ds9JaT

Just wanted to let you know that but I'll respond to some comments while here.

>>211600
>Haha "Hey guys, we're *****20***** YEARS OLD and NOT REMOTELY UNDERAGE :D How you like DEM apples, Patreon and Government??!!"

Haha, yeah. I had to make that slip in there just for validity. I also tag them on Patreon as "Legend of Korra" as I stated the characters are based on the official adult versions made for that series.

>>211603
>Actually, having had a patreon account for the last two years and having actually read the terms when I signed up, loli and fanart were already forbidden. It's not a change in policy, they merely reworded it in a clearer way.

Thing is I read the rules too. Problem is they are not clear. This is indicated by the fact that either you or wrong or that everyone in Patreon support is wrong. They never explicitly state that loli nor fanart is forbidden. If you have been there for 2 years there is a good chance you were there during the 8chan issue. The thing is that Patreon has always stated since they were established that they "support fringe creations and discussions", as long as such creations and discussions are legal. They even explicitly made the point, "I guess the dilemma is we'd support reddit, tumblr and fringe art like Lolita - still debating 8chan. Would appreciate community's thoughts." on their Twitter. They were debating 8chan not because of the pornographic content, not because of the loli, but rather because of the illegal activities that the lack of moderation was permitting to take place.

Ignoring the 8chan fiasco, there is nothing in their terms banning animated characters of any type or age. They have a blanket rule against pornography, but this rule is only ever applied to content with real people. Real pornography has a large list of legal complications involved so it makes sense that most hosting services like Patreon just flat out ban it. Heck, they even have a NSFW tag for pages containing pornographic content. Taking this into consideration it should be fair to assume that their restrictions on "sexualizing children" apply to just that, children. A cartoon character is neither an adult nor a child by legal terms, at least in the US, which is where Patreon is hosted.

We then fall back on the fact that Patreon states in their DMCA/copyright sections that they are fine with any and all externally linked/embedded content on Patreon as long as that content is within legal limits as well as follows the terms of the site they are hosted on. In the email that their Trust and Safety department sent me not only did they make the email look exceptionally shady but they also spoke against this term, directly stating to me that you may not dodge their rules by linking to content offsite. I'd imagine a department that has the power to straight up delete accounts would be well versed in the site's policies. There are plenty of pages on Patreon that host loli and throughout discussion I have yet to find anyone that has been banned for such content until "Trust Safety" attacked a small selection of pages within the last couple of weeks, one of which being mine.

Now we move onto fanart. If you are aware from the terms that fanart is forbidden then you are wrong. Patreon has replied to our inquiries on this topic by stating that fanart is fine, even under the upcoming new policies, as long as the fanart was made by the creator hosting it and that they are not claiming ownership over the characters. We even referenced them to a creator with a large fanbase that makes exclusively fanart and they directly stated that it is okay to do so. The new wording does nothing as they still acknowledge fair use laws. The new wording does nothing at all, let alone "reworded it in a clearer way". This is quite apparently indicated by the fact that most people, including you, misinterpreted it.
No.211617
Anonymous
>>211607
OooOOoo I have to vote for Shanti incog. Doesn't get any more exotic than her.
No.211619
Pepipopo
Replies:>>211657
>>211607
>We then fall back on the fact that Patreon states in their DMCA/copyright sections that they are fine with any and all externally linked/embedded content on Patreon as long as that content is within legal limits as well as follows the terms of the site they are hosted on. In the email that their Trust and Safety department sent me not only did they make the email look exceptionally shady but they also spoke against this term, directly stating to me that you may not dodge their rules by linking to content offsite. I'd imagine a department that has the power to straight up delete accounts would be well versed in the site's policies. There are plenty of pages on Patreon that host loli and throughout discussion I have yet to find anyone that has been banned for such content until "Trust Safety" attacked a small selection of pages within the last couple of weeks, one of which being mine.
>
>Now we move onto fanart. If you are aware from the terms that fanart is forbidden then you are wrong. Patreon has replied to our inquiries on this topic by stating that fanart is fine, even under the upcoming new policies, as long as the fanart was made by the creator hosting it and that they are not claiming ownership over the characters. We even referenced them to a creator with a large fanbase that makes exclusively fanart and they directly stated that it is okay to do so. The new wording does nothing as they still acknowledge fair use laws. The new wording does nothing at all, let alone "reworded it in a clearer way". This is quite apparently indicated by the fact that most people, including you, misinterpreted it.


Mhh, well dude, have you ever tought that maybe, just maybe, the e-mail thing was just "a trap" by someone from the site with SJW tendencies?, i know, i know, paranoia right? but if my theory of the other users being naive about the new policies yet not bieng taken down just for being "under the radar priorities" turns out to be off, than maybe, it could be that someone has a bone to pick with you, since apparently no other people have made it clear whatever they receive such e-mail or not.

Do you still have it?
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Hoping you can get to drawing Gwen soon incog. Knowing her, she is just aching to get her clothes off again. I mean seriously look at her >,<
No.211626
netjunkie13
Really impressed by the Legend of Korra series. There's a certain physicality to Katara's breasts when they pop out of her top and when she fondles them that is quite appealing.
No.211627
Anonymous
>>211626
>There's a certain physicality to Katara's breasts when they pop out of her top and when she fondles them that is quite appealing.
When does she do that?
No.211628
Anonymous
Replies:>>211657
Man I would love to own your comics physically.
No.211632
Anonymous
>>211627
>When does she do that?
In his patreon the comic is 4 pages ahead.
No.211633
Anonymous
>>211607
>In the email that their Trust and Safety department sent me not only did they make the email look exceptionally shady but they also spoke against this term, directly stating to me that you may not dodge their rules by linking to content offsite. I'd imagine a department that has the power to straight up delete accounts would be well versed in the site's policies. There are plenty of pages on Patreon that host loli and throughout discussion I have yet to find anyone that has been banned for such content until "Trust Safety" attacked a small selection of pages within the last couple of weeks, one of which being mine.

>The new wording does nothing as they still acknowledge fair use laws. The new wording does nothing at all, let alone "reworded it in a clearer way". This is quite apparently indicated by the fact that most people, including you, misinterpreted it.

Team of monkeys working there. They're losing a rising star by opting for censorship. Hope you get your numbers back and recoup your loses soon man. Will help you with promos once your site's up and running, no sweat.
No.211639
netjunkie13
>>211627
Whoops, jumped the gun there. Now you know what to look forward to. XP
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I still wanna see Incog draw Alice, at least once.
No.211646
Anonymous
i miss the loli club
No.211647
Anonymous
>>211646

They're in the thread starter.
No.211653
Trace.Reading
Replies:>>211654
>>211643

Alice with Hartman Hips or just regular boring old loli Alice?
No.211654
Anonymous
>>211653
Alice with perfect, girlish hips like in >>211371
No.211655
Anonymous
>>211654
I think why that ass is so breathtaking is because it isn't exaggerated. There are no curves anywhere on her. Like how incog draws Gwen. It's how Alice should be done.
No.211657
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Late update but here's page 2. Spent too much time discussing things today so going straight to replies.

>>211619
>Mhh, well dude, have you ever tought that maybe, just maybe, the e-mail thing was just "a trap" by someone from the site with SJW tendencies?, i know, i know, paranoia right? but if my theory of the other users being naive about the new policies yet not bieng taken down just for being "under the radar priorities" turns out to be off, than maybe, it could be that someone has a bone to pick with you, since apparently no other people have made it clear whatever they receive such e-mail or not.
>
>Do you still have it?

I still have the email but it won't do any good. I do feel there was a little bit of discrimination in how they handled the situation. I've looked into pages that have been warned or banned and they are always handled better than my situation. They usually lock/hide pages first when contacting creators, and when they delete creator pages it is standard for them to contact patrons and/or leave a disclaimer page redirect where it states the creator's page has been taken down for breaking their guidelines. They did none of this for me. In fact, their second "24 hour notice" only gave me about 4 hours to reply. Needless to say my page was down before I saw the email.

Also, despite their ability to hide/redirect pages they claimed to have "expunged my page from their servers", which apparently made reserving any part of it for myself impossible. I have lost my patron manager list and all so I cannot contact patrons. Despite claiming it has been "expunged" beyond recovery, bookmarked pages/links can still be accessed by past patrons, although they cannot see the content because they are no longer a patron to the page. My old account is even still there under its old UserID, although it is set to private. Despite claiming my page as no longer existing I had to request they unlock my credentials so I could make a new one. At least they were willing to do that.

>>211624
>Hoping you can get to drawing Gwen soon incog. Knowing her, she is just aching to get her clothes off again. I mean seriously look at her >,<

Same. She's definitely gotta be aching for it at this point. Hell, she was already in the mood on the last page before I got cut off.

>>211626
>Really impressed by the Legend of Korra series. There's a certain physicality to Katara's breasts when they pop out of her top and when she fondles them that is quite appealing.

Thanks. I've been trying to focus a bit on making breasts relevant as I guess I should practice drawing them a bit. Glad to hear it's working out okay thus far.

>>211628
>Man I would love to own your comics physically.

Sadly there is no way for me to set that up at this time but I could maybe work on using actual screen tones and making my images at 600 DPI for optional monochromatic printing for anyone interested. Sadly though my current hardware lags behind a bit at that resolution.

>>211646
>i miss the loli club

I'll try and do more with them, but the pieces with them have always been so time consuming so they've not been overly viable. I've been trying to at least keep it alive a bit with the calendar.

>>211643
>I still wanna see Incog draw Alice, at least once.

Soon.
No.211669
Anonymous
Replies:>>211693
>>211657
>I've been trying to focus a bit on making breasts relevant as I guess I should practice drawing them a bit. Glad to hear it's working out okay thus far.

Are you kidding? You draw the best boobs already. But I see what you're saying: "developed" =P
No.211670
Anonymous
Replies:>>211693
>>211658
I prefer traditional boxes but I'm loving the panel-free format for this story. Your sequencing is expert level in this.
No.211671
Anonymous
Replies:>>211693
Hey Incog,

Would you ever consider aging-up loli characters that don't have a canon older form? You'd have to take some artistic license, but I'm sure you could do it if you had a mind to.
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>>211657
>She's definitely gotta be aching for it at this point. Hell, she was already in the mood on the last page before I got cut off.

It's all she can think about. She keeps wetting herself.
No.211682
Anonymous
Replies:>>211693
>>211657
>I do feel there was a little bit of discrimination in how they handled the situation.

You have good instincts so let's assume they're intolerant of and biased against certain modes of artistic expression. All the more reason to get out of their system quick before they erase everything you rebuild again o_O
No.211683
Anonymous
Been away a few days. I see Pateron is treating Incog like Paheal did that one time. Remember? When they nuked his whole tag because loli is wrong there now but it isn't?
No.211684
Anonymous
Replies:>>211685
>>211683
Just gotta wait for management to change hands. That's usually all it takes. Some new guy to come along and say "What have you done?! Youve lost all this money/ You've ruined everything!!"
No.211685
Anonymous
>>211684
Patreon moves 7.000.000 USD per month. I'm sure someone will be fired because they lost the 1.600 Incog was making.
No.211686
Trace.Reading
>>211654 Pfft, that's boring.
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Reuploading this yet again. Turns out when I went to export it again for the resize my cheap tablet's driver issues kicked in and did a random thin white line across the final panel. Just wanted to fix that.
No.211693
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Completely forgot to mention something yesterday. I plan to get my Patreon back on the one week delay thing so I'll be posting the next page in a few days. This is perhaps one of the more annoying parts of my page going down as that means this is the second time I have to do this. Oh well, from there it will be back on with daily updates.

Now for responses.

>>211669
>Are you kidding? You draw the best boobs already. But I see what you're saying: "developed" =P

Glad at least someone feels that way but I still feel there is room for improvement there. I simply don't have a lot of experience at this time with larger chests.

>>211670
>I prefer traditional boxes but I'm loving the panel-free format for this story. Your sequencing is expert level in
this.

I agree on the panel format but I felt this would be both a fun exercise and simpler to do. Of course there are some issues with this method that traditional paneling would resolve but it still feels to be a fast and efficient method. All in all it's still something I'd be willing to try again in the future for another side project.

>>211671
>Hey Incog,
>
>Would you ever consider aging-up loli characters that don't have a canon older form? You'd have to take some artistic license, but I'm sure you could do it if you had a mind to.

Not really a lot of interest in doing so. At that point I'd rather just make my own characters. I feel loli should stay loli unless they have the canon adult form.

>>211673
>It's all she can think about. She keeps wetting herself.

She'll get her turn. She'll just have to keep herself distracted until then.

>>211682
>You have good instincts so let's assume they're intolerant of and biased against certain modes of artistic expression. All the more reason to get out of their system quick before they erase everything you rebuild again o_O


I don't think I'll "get out of their system" any time soon. I think I may try and keep my page the way it is as a way to make content for people not into loli or that are afraid of pledging/subscribing to a page with loli. I won't need to push out nearly as much content as I am now so I could just pop out a page or two a day for Patreon once I am able to spend my time fully on primary projects. It will serve as a good form of supplementary support in the long run which will hopefully serve to replace the necessity for any commission slots in the short run.

>>211683
>Been away a few days. I see Pateron is treating Incog like Paheal did that one time. Remember? When they nuked his whole tag because loli is wrong there now but it isn't?

Well at least with Paheal it was an accident and they apologized before I knew it even happened. I think they tried to ban loli and realized that it just wouldn't work with the nature of the site or that it became simply too much work to moderate. I don't know but I'm glad they're not deleting my stuff anymore.

>>211685
>Patreon moves 7.000.000 USD per month. I'm sure someone will be fired because they lost the 1.600 Incog was making.

You'd be surprised how little money it takes to throw even the richest people into a fit of rage. I've known people that have worked at high end country clubs and restaurants where tipping had to be made mandatory because all of the rich people in there were unwilling to do so otherwise. It's not uncommon for a rich person to be really stingy/chintzy.
No.211694
Anonymous
Replies:>>211821
>>211693
>It's not uncommon for a rich person to be really stingy/chintzy.

They all are. That's why they're rich.
No.211697
Anonymous
In regards to your boobs, I've always thought they looked good from you.
Honestly, this entire thing had been frustrating, but I'm kind of glad to see you branch out again.
In the past, there were a number of sets you did that were great using older characters.

The avatar stuff, the WITCH stuff, the Iron Man Armored Adventures, those were all great.
No.211698
Anonymous
Replies:>>211821
Have you tried swaggerdile.com. that's where faf ran off too when patron was being a butt
No.211701
Anonymous
Replies:>>211821
>>211693

Oh man, we were just getting to the good part. I wish I could pledge to you on patreon. One day.
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>>211266
>Attached to this post is the first image I was going to post free

Would you like try draw something with this loli?
No.211714
Anonymous
What show is that
No.211715
Anonymous
>>211712
Go away abusefag.
No.211745
Anonymous
what show is this?
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Lobbying for Shanti to be in The Club XD

(Let's imagine that's Katie on the bed)
No.211757
Anonymous
Replies:>>211761
>>211756
The ugliness is real.
No.211761
Anonymous
>>211757
She's cute bra
No.211765
Anonymous
>>211756
I think it's pretty good but it looks like you could of outline the body's better.
No.211781
Anonymous
Incog, you should do a one week free trail or something on your website to attract new fans. I don't think a lot of people would just subscribe to a random website.
No.211782
Anonymous
Incog, you should do a one week free trail or something on your website to attract new fans. I don't think a lot of people would just subscribe to a random website.
No.211783
Anonymous
>>211781
>>211782
You and your friend are crazy
No.211784
Anonymous
Sorry, double post.
No.211785
Anonymous
>>211756
Love the size differences here.
No.211788
Anonymous
>>211782
I would suscribe since it wouldn't be a random website.

But nice try to have free early content.
No.211805
Anonymous
Replies:>>211821
>>211693
>It will serve as a good form of supplementary support in the long run which will hopefully serve to replace the necessity for any commission slots in the short run.

Sounds like a plan. Even Natis resorted to drawing furries to pay the bills. How goes the progress of your new domain btw?
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Okay, time to start the free updates again. I will be posting a page of this a day until all 10 pages are posted. As for a status update on my current situation, have a Patreon status update copy/pasta.

tl;dr: I spent all day yesterday learning details on building my site. I hope to have it up soon to post my past Patreon's content that is not allowed here. Said content will hopefully be free to everyone while I build my site. Once the site is built I plan to implement the pay system and hopefully allow people to migrate there from here. Since this will likely take a month to slowly finalize I will still be doing 18+ characters throughout next month until it is up.

Sorry about the lack of an update yesterday. I got caught up in working on my new web site and before I knew it it was 8AM and I hadn't finish a comic page page. I did learn a lot about my options with the site regarding resizing/mobile support, CSS styles/attributes, PHP functions, I set up direct FTP access to bypass file size limitations of my editor, etc, etc. My web host goes out of town starting tomorrow until the 31st so I really wanted to get as much done as possible in the meantime. I will be dedicating the time into getting the 10th and final page of this comic done before I go back to finishing up my site. While I work on my site I will be making a couple images, none of which can be posted here due to being a personal project and 2 promised pieces from my last Patreon setup.


As I begin to have my site functioning I plan to first use it to post all of my previous Patreon's content for free. This was I guarantee everyone that pledged in the past is able to obtain the rewards I promised throughout next month. Doing this everyone will be able to obtain them, patron or otherwise, but it is the only way to make sure everyone who paid is able to get them. The site will be completely free for the first month as I will not be able to have it up and running on the payment processing end before the month is over due to my host being out for the rest of the month. I will use this month to slowly tweak it out and get it working before I implement the pay service completely. Hopefully I will have it fully done before December so that patrons can migrate over without having to pay Patreon for another month, although technically Patreon charges for the month ending and not the month beginning. Since I will still be relying on Patreon for one more month I will be doing primarily 18+ characters for November while I get this all situated.

>>211694
>They all are. That's why they're rich.

Hey, lets not say they ALL are. Some just get lucky/catch a break.

>>211697
>In regards to your boobs, I've always thought they looked good from you.
>Honestly, this entire thing had been frustrating, but I'm kind of glad to see you branch out again.
>In the past, there were a number of sets you did that were great using older characters.
>
>The avatar stuff, the WITCH stuff, the Iron Man Armored Adventures, those were all great.

Thanks for the compliment. I've been wanting to do some variety with some older characters anyway so it's not that bad. It came at a bad time so it is indeed frustrating but it's just another small setback. I knew building up would be a process anyway so this was just a hiccup in that process that had to be worked out. I've always been open to older characters but since I started focusing on Patreon projects it just didn't seem to be what my fan base was ever really asking for.

>>211698
>Have you tried swaggerdile.com. that's where faf ran off too when patron was being a butt

I think I prefer the idea of my own domain.

>>211701
>Oh man, we were just getting to the good part. I wish I could pledge to you on patreon. One day.

Well the free pages are rolling in now so it'll get caught up soon.

>>211712
>Would you like try draw something with this loli?

I would like to draw something with all lolis. Problem is that's just not very practical.

>>211781
>Incog, you should do a one week free trail or something on your website to attract new fans. I don't think a lot of people would just subscribe to a random website.

I'm not worried about attracting new fans that way. I'll market my site on my loli content while also marketing my Patreon on my adult content. I'm not really anticipating "random" visits to my site.

>>211805
>Sounds like a plan. Even Natis resorted to drawing furries to pay the bills. How goes the progress of your new domain btw?

Yeah, money trumps all in priority. Gotta do what pays the bills before you can branch off. The site has been going fine thus far. I actually have a layout decided now for the home page and plan to start branching from there.
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>>211821
Incognitymous, I hate to be one of those people, but your use of "thousands" bothered me.
No.211831
Anonymous
>>211697
>In regards to your boobs, I've always thought they looked good

I'll be the judge of that. Post pics of your boobs, incog. NOW.
No.211832
Anonymous
>>211830
Autism level: God-tier
No.211835
Incognitymous
>>211830
>Incognitymous, I hate to be one of those people, but your use of "thousands" bothered me.

Hey, they mentioned they've been doing this stuff every day for years. In ATLA she was 14, so assuming my own canon of her doing this with Sokka every day since they lived in the village and her now being 20, if she sucked his dick once a day, every day being 365.25 days, during this time that would equal 2191.5 times she has done so. Assuming she has had many days where she has done so multiple times it could easily start hitting the 3-4 thousand mark over said 6 year period, or maybe even more if we reduce the age in which they started doing so. Lots of days go by in a year so daily routines start to build up.
No.211838
Anonymous
Replies:>>211859
>>211835
And that number basically goes crazy if we assume she sucked him more than once a day, which I wouldn't see why not.

Sorry anon. You complained about grammar by using math, but you can't count good enough for it.
No.211839
Anonymous
Incog is your site going to be a site where you have to join with a credit card to se your pics?
No.211845
Anonymous
>>211839
I'm pretty sure he answers that question in this thread. Read.
No.211846
Anonymous
Replies:>>211859
>>211835
"1000s of times" could just be an expression or exaggeration, something people do a lot.
No.211850
Anonymous
Replies:>>211859
>>21182

I love how you draw big boobs, since you'll be doing characters with bigger boobs for a while, how about drawing someone boob-fucking someone else? You've never done it before.
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here's page 4 of this comic. 6 more pages to go. Still going to be updating these at one a day so 6 more days to go.

>>211838
>And that number basically goes crazy if we assume she sucked him more than once a day, which I wouldn't see why not.

Exactly. Once a day for 6 years is 2191.5 times, so twice a day would be 4,383, three times a day at 6574.5 times and so on. 365.25 is already over 30% of 1,000, so as mentioned before this causes daily routines to hit the thousands mark after just a few years. Heck, if you brush your teeth three times a day you do so 1095.75 times a year.

>>211839
>Incog is your site going to be a site where you have to join with a credit card to se your pics?

Yes it is. It's intended to serve the purpose that Patreon does except for without Patreon's restrictions on content. Stuff will still eventually be released free, but the WIP stages and full resolution uploads will still be just on my site (with the exception of the adult stuff hosted on Patreon).

>>211846
>"1000s of times" could just be an expression or exaggeration, something people do a lot.

There is also this. "I've done that like a million times" is a very common expression, and nobody thought twice when I had Ben say, "Yeah, I've only heard that like a million times" in the Sultry Summer comic so I don't see why Katara referring to something occurring in the thousands over many years being a problem.

>>211850
>I love how you draw big boobs, since you'll be doing characters with bigger boobs for a while, how about drawing someone boob-fucking someone else? You've never done it before.

I'll consider it, but if it's something I haven't done before then it's likely I just don't have much personal interest in it.
No.211864
Anonymous
Replies:>>211889
>>211859
>Yes it is. It's intended to serve the purpose that Patreon does except for without Patreon's restrictions on content.

Holy shit. Here I though you were doing well before when really you haven't even gotten started yet. The age of incog begins soon >:)
No.211865
Anonymous
Replies:>>211889
>>211859
>Yes it is. It's intended to serve the purpose that Patreon does except for without Patreon's restrictions on content.

what parts of your site will you need a credit card to see will it be the whole site or just the WIPs
No.211882
Anonymous
Replies:>>211889
>>211859
Have you decided how much you'll be charging for subscriptions to your domain yet?

I'll be subscribing no matter what you charge (unless it's something utterly ridiculous) as I need my Incognitymous fix, but it'd be good to have a rough idea of how much it'll be.
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

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Here is page 5 of the current comic. For a status update copy/paste:

Now on to the status of my current situation. For the next couple days I will be working on the last of my Patreon obligations from before the page was torn down as well as my October calendar piece for /pco/. As such I will likely start the next comic project when November hits.


As for my site situation, I finally have it at a point where I know how I will build it. I now have my update post layouts figured out as well as how to properly upload/sync files into my site builder after FTP upload so that I can manually lay out my file/folder structure. All I have left to do is figure out how I plan to implement this file structure into a viable gallery option while having the files still readily available for other site functions like current stats updates. Beyond that the only thing I need is for my host to return from out of town at the end of this month/start of next month and I will discuss the best way to implement handling files for bandwidth purposes before I begin uploading.

>>211864
>Holy shit. Here I though you were doing well before when really you haven't even gotten started yet. The age of incog begins soon >:)

I also thought I was starting to do well but then I hit the content restrictions wall head first. Now that I'm getting rid of that wall hopefully the time to draw without restrictions can truly begin.

>>211865
>what parts of your site will you need a credit card to see will it be the whole site or just the WIPs

I'm figuring all of it. Free content will still be uploaded via Jab. I considered having a free section where I upload my gallery but since I share server space with Jab I felt that would be redundant. I'll simply include a link to my free gallery. It will also just be easier to have the whole site be content locked so that I can enable it as a default as opposed to manually setting what is/is not locked. Pretty much just my home page will be freely accessible with maybe some post sliders giving thumbnail samples of my site's current content.

>>211882
>Have you decided how much you'll be charging for subscriptions to your domain yet?
>
>I'll be subscribing no matter what you charge (unless it's something utterly ridiculous) as I need my Incognitymous fix, but it'd be good to have a rough idea of how much it'll be.

Not sure yet. I'd really like to keep it at $10 like my Patreon's highest tier was but I have to consider hosting costs and such now. While I now have absolute freedom in what kinds of content I can post I now have to consider my host's input. I'm sure I'll be free to keep a low amount but I'll have to talk to my host when he returns from out of town in a few days before I give a concrete value.
No.211891
Anonymous
Replies:>>211895
>>211889
That slut sucks cock like a pro, thanks incog!
No.211892
Anonymous
Replies:>>211895
>>211889
>I finally have it at a point where I know how I will build it. I now have my update post layouts figured out as well as how to properly upload/sync files into my site builder after FTP upload so that I can manually lay out my file/folder structure.

Cripes you've been busy. Appreciate the update. All the very best during this transition period.
No.211893
Anonymous
Replies:>>211895
>>211889
>It will also just be easier to have the whole site be content locked so that I can enable it as a default as opposed to manually setting what is/is not locked. Pretty much just my home page will be freely accessible with maybe some post sliders giving thumbnail samples of my site's current content.

I liked the monthly gap before the freeing of content as before. It was realistic and logical. People will leak everything immediately otherwise.
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

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Okay, got a sketch of my calendar piece for this month. Definitely want to have it lined and colored before the month is over so I'm starting with this. Still uncertain as to how to do the texture of what she's laying on, either yellowish grass with dirt sides or just go with a brownish rock, and the anatomy may need some tweaking but I'll get to that in a bit. Also I may very well do a quick bust shot of Alice with another girl, probably Gwen, just for the purpose of picking out the color palette. This is my first time adding a girl for the calendar without having a previous crossover piece to establish fitting colors so I may have to sidetrack and do that.

>>211891
>That slut sucks cock like a pro, thanks incog!

No problem. It comes to her with the experience of thousands of blowjobs.

>>211892
>Cripes you've been busy. Appreciate the update. All the very best during this transition period.

Very much so. Been staying up until like 8AM working on the site before stepping away. I know absolutely nothing about modern web design and didn't want to just use a default template so it took some work. Even made my own banner with OC mascots.

>>211893
>I liked the monthly gap before the freeing of content as before. It was realistic and logical. People will leak everything immediately otherwise.

I may go that route. I feel "pay sites" have a stigma around them that Patreon seems to be able to circumvent through its sheer popularity as a platform. We'll see if I go that route. I'd rather not delay that much but I've got to do what I've got to do to make this all worthwhile in the end. It's really my last shot at supporting myself with the freedom to draw whatever I want so I can't mess it up.
No.211897
Anonymous
Replies:>>211902
>>211895
>Even made my own banner with OC mascots.

Wha.. and Alice AAAHH!! Get hype bros!!
No.211899
Anonymous
>>211895
Very cute. If you can, make her in the Diana-Toph height range of >>211756
Replies:>>211905
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So here's a quick piece I did to get a color palette for Alice. Will finish up the calendar now.

>>211897
>Wha.. and Alice AAAHH!! Get hype bros!!

Well here's another quick Alice then.
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>>211895
How about Lydia Deetz for loli club
No.211905
Anonymous
>>211902
BLESS YOU, INCOG
BLESS YOU
Replies:>>211910
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Here are the lines for this calendar piece. Will work out the details of the background in the color stage so I didn't want to add any lines to it yet.
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I also decided to fix this up a bit. While doing the lines for Alice in the calendar piece I paid a little more attention to her facial details since I wasn't just making a color comparison piece so I then decided to apply things I noticed to this. I noticed her hair has to stick up at quite a sharp angle and that she has a much more rounded nose than I put down at first. She also has a slightly longer face so I moved the eyes together to emphasize this.
No.211909
Anonymous
>>211907
JESUS FUCK
No.211910
Anonymous
>>211906
>>211907
Very, very cute!
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>>211907
>She also has a slightly longer face so I moved the eyes together to emphasize this.

Dude you should see the model she was based off. Not the prettiest girl, but adorbz cartoonified.
No.211912
Anonymous
Replies:>>211918
>>211907
Shrink her eyes slightly too like >>211911. They're relatively smaller while her forehead occupies a lot of her face.
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Saw this edit hadn't hit Paheal yet so decided to do one more edit based on feedback.

>>211911
>Dude you should see the model she was based off. Not the prettiest girl, but adorbz cartoonified.

Cartoonified better than the reals confirm.

>>211912
>Shrink her eyes slightly too like >211911. They're relatively smaller while her forehead occupies a lot of her face.

I shrank her eyes slightly but don't want them quite as small as the source material. When placed next to the others I feel the canon size looks a bit too "frog eyed" given the discrepancies in the distance of the gap between their eyes. I'm trying to maintain the shape of the eyes while keeping the size comparable to Gwen and the other girls. I shrank them a little but not sure I'd go any smaller.

Same deal with the forehead. I upped it but not sure how much bigger I'll be willing to go in future pieces. The girls typically have that typical scale where the eyes are placed at the vertical mid-point of the face. If you measure that point on Alice her eyes are placed at about that position in relation to between her chin and where her hair meets at the top of her face. I fear this would make it look a bit too much like her hair is simply "planted" on her head when contrasted with a few of the other girls. Maybe I'll give this a try though if I ever get to more Alice with another girl.
No.211919
Anonymous
>>211918
Is Gwen corrupting Alice?
No.211920
Anonymous
Replies:>>211927
>>211919
Yes. Alice is always ready to try new things, but she's never heard of this kind of game before
No.211921
Anonymous
Replies:>>211927
>>211911
The model was also her voice actress. Wendy's, too.
Kathryn Beaumont.
No.211922
Anonymous
Replies:>>211927
>>211907

What was the deleted file here?
No.211924
Anonymous
Replies:>>211927
>>211918
It's perfect incog thank you!
No.211925
Anonymous
Replies:>>211927
>>211895
>Even made my own banner with OC mascots.

Can't wait to meet the little sluts. I mean, I'll respect them and all, just can't wait to leer at their naked bodies. Viva le INCOG!
No.211926
Anonymous
Replies:>>211927
It's great to see your work in vibrant multicolor again. As good as seeing reigning queen Gwen indoctrinating proto loli Alice into a life of depravity >:)
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Here is page 6 and the wall of text it entails. Almost forgot to post this due to issues delaying me today. Luckily these issues have freed up my evening so I'll be starting that calendar in a bit. Not much else to say so I'll try to get started.

>>211919
>Is Gwen corrupting Alice?

"Corrupting" is such a strong word. I prefer to say she's "educating".

>>211920
>Yes. Alice is always ready to try new things, but she's never heard of this kind of game before

I'm sure she's heard of it, just never gotten around to playing. That's where Gwen comes in with her infinite knowledge.

>>211921
>The model was also her voice actress. Wendy's, too.
>Kathryn Beaumont.

Huh, well I guess that helps keep the character matching the voice.

>>211922
>What was the deleted file here?

It was the first edit of the Alice/Gwen piece. I wasn't going to do a second edit but the first one hadn't spread yet due to the time I posted it so I figured why the hell not.

>>211924
>It's perfect incog thank you!

No problem. Was really just trying to get her details/colors proportionate before finishing the calendar.

>>211925
>Can't wait to meet the little sluts. I mean, I'll respect them and all, just can't wait to leer at their naked bodies. Viva le INCOG!

Whoever said you can't respect someone and see them naked? Anyone who says otherwise is a blasphemer and a heathen.

>>211926
>It's great to see your work in vibrant multicolor again. As good as seeing reigning queen Gwen indoctrinating proto loli Alice into a life of depravity >:)

Isn't that bad when doing such a simple color job with no background. And of course we can leave it to Gwen to indoctrinate all the lolis, but lets not call it "depravity" but rather a life of "sexual adventure".
No.211928
Anonymous
>>211918
Next part of "education", should be with Ben taking Alice virginity and pumping her full of cum (I could see Gwen with her hand on Alice stomach, asking her did she feel that hotness)
No.211930
Anonymous
Replies:>>211939
>>211928
I bet Alice IS a virgin. It's Ben's duty to have sex with the girls in the club so I can see Gwen arranging this.
No.211931
Anonymous
Replies:>>211939
>>211927
This guy is going to cover his sister in cum by the end of this.
Replies:>>211939
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>>211927
>Corrupting" is such a strong word. I prefer to say she's "educating".
>lets not call it "depravity" but rather a life of "sexual adventure".

You're the king of euphemisms and I like the way you think.
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Well here are the colors for this. Delayed more than hoped but it's done. Just 1, maybe 2 more pieces to do this month before I'm completely free of all of my previous Patreon's obligations. Once done I will start the next comic.

>>211928
>Next part of "education", should be with Ben taking Alice virginity and pumping her full of cum (I could see Gwen with her hand on Alice stomach, asking her did she feel that hotness)

Sadly there isn't really a lot of time for such a thing at this point. There was something else I've really been wanting to do involving Katie, Penny and Alice but I haven't quite had the time sadly.

>>211930
>I bet Alice IS a virgin. It's Ben's duty to have sex with the girls in the club so I can see Gwen arranging this.

Well of course Gwen would arrange this. Ben is her official helper shota after all.

>>211931
>This guy is going to cover his sister in cum by the end of this.

Hey, there may not be so much covering if it's all shot off inside her.

>>211932
>You're the king of euphemisms and I like the way you think.

Well they're all clearly just trying to have a good time so there's no need for negative connotations.
No.211940
Anonymous
>>211939
Whoa there's our girl.
No.211942
Anonymous
>>211939
I feel like she'd have a bit bigger butt but hey, I'm not gonna judge
No.211944
Anonymous
>>211939
Served on a platter XD
No.211948
Anonymous
Replies:>>211968
Insert joke about how deep the rabbit hole goes. Also I bet her accent when teasing the LC clients drives them mad as... Hatters.
Replies:>>211969
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Here is the next free page. Trying to get the last of my workload for the month done so almost forgot to upload again. Just 3 more pages to upload after this one.

>>211942
>I feel like she'd have a bit bigger butt but hey, I'm not gonna judge

Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say with her and the outfit she wears.

>>211948
>Insert joke about how deep the rabbit hole goes. Also I bet her accent when teasing the LC clients drives them mad as... Hatters.

I'll just leave this comment as is.
No.211969
Anonymous
Replies:>>211977
>>211968
Angry anal sex FTW
No.211970
Anonymous
>>211685
It wouldn't have just been incog it was affecting. Plus word of mouth could scare off potential business.
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>>211939
Holy shit I missed this.. ALICE IS IN??!
No.211975
Anonymous
>>211939
>Well of course Gwen would arrange this. Ben is her official helper shota after all.

Ben is the official LC stud. Love that wonderland pumpkin on the calendar page ;)
No.211976
Anonymous
>>211942
Why? She's too young for all those unfortunate lumps women get.
No.211977
Anonymous
Replies:>>212023
>>211969
Not angry at all. Happy sex you mean.
No.211985
Anonymous
Replies:>>212023
>>211939
Christ I'm glad you drew her showing off that beautiful anus of hers. She's got some catching up to do!
No.211991
Anonymous
>>211939
>Hey, there may not be so much covering if it's all shot off inside her.

Oh yes please incog sir she needs it in every hole XD
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Here is a partial request from one of my Patreon's past guaranteed request holders. They made a 3 figure request instead of 4 and asked for a single image of Gwen to go with it. I said if I had time I would do so, but that I would like to do a Halloween piece anyway so this gave me an excuse to do so. I went with their request of Gwen in a "homemade" Halloween "costume", but I mentioned the idea of Ben in a matching "costume" and they were okay with it so here it is. A rather simple piece as I wanted to finish it today despite distractions and also want to be able to dedicate the rest of the day to getting my site updated.

Also, going to post the next free page in a minute.

>>211971
>Holy shit I missed this.. ALICE IS IN??!

Indeed she is. You didn't miss much as she just officially joined.

>>211977
>Not angry at all. Happy sex you mean.

Happy sex = best sex, although angry sex has its appeal.

>>211985
>Christ I'm glad you drew her showing off that beautiful anus of hers. She's got some catching up to do!

Well of course. Can't do a full comic without showing that off at least once.
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Here is the next free page. Now off to work on my site.
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>>212023
Officially dying.
No.212027
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212023
This is, dare I say it, better than last year's Halloween pic with all the girls. Literally breathtaking.
No.212029
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212023
oh,man i love the way you draw the loli and shota bodies.
No.212032
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212023
>They made a 3 figure request instead of 4 and asked for a single image of Gwen to go with it. I said if I had time I would do so, but that I would like to do a Halloween piece anyway so this gave me an excuse to do so.

So are we getting a Gwen solo pic too? All this free content from you lately is giving my fapping hand severe nerve damage. I may have to use the other one if you fulfill that request :3
No.212035
Anonymous
>>212024
Lordy that ass spread
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Incog could you draw Gwen in lingerie like this if you do decide to work on her? This set would look so cute paired with her skinny tomboy body and adorbz mullet hair-do XD
No.212051
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212023
>Indeed she is. You didn't miss much as she just officially joined.

Good choice. Her movie is one of my all time faves. Definitely looking forward to seeing her doing more porn.
No.212052
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212042
I'm getting hard imagining Gwen wearing that underneath her clothes.
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>>212023
Dear god these two
No.212056
Anonymous
Incog have you seen Natis' latest artwork? Prodigious and inspirational.

http://8ch.net/loli/res/17728.html
No.212058
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212023
hoo boy I wish I lived in Bellwood >.<
No.212060
Anonymous
>>212023
they are both fuckable in that pic.
No.212063
Anonymous
Can you please do one or two loli pieces this month until your site is up? Monochrome is totally fine. I can't wait until it's up!
No.212065
Anonymous
Replies:>>212077
>>212024
Just reading what Katara said gave me the impression all of your earlier works that had them together actually happened. I almost want to see a combined collection of your previous works and the current comic detailing a chronology of events where the siblings go for it.

Just a crazy idea - remake your previous Katara/Sokka works (InCase is doing it as well remaking older chapters of his Alfie comic) and bundle them with your current one and offer them as a set.
No.212075
Anonymous
>>212056
Is he not in jail anymore?
No.212076
Anon_Guy
>>212023
Oh wow, i love this, ben is so cute.
If only incog would do Shotacon Q.Q
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Here is page 9 of this comic. Just one more page to go and then I fear I am out of updates to give until I get progress on my next comic. The good news though is that my site is nearly fully functional and thus I will be able to update everything from my past Patreon there soon for everyone to grab. I plan to release it once my registration system is available. Registration will be free at first as it is another feature I want to test fully before the site is officially "launched". Once enough time in this stage has passed that I feel everything is in proper order I can activate the payment processing and the site will be fully finished. For now everything as far as layout has been determined and I just need to add the last bit of content to the appropriate directories.

>>212027
>This is, dare I say it, better than last year's Halloween pic with all the girls. Literally breathtaking.

Well I'd like to hope at least quality-wise it's a little better than last year's piece. Many prefer simple single source pieces with just a few characters so luckily for them I don't have time for 8+ character holiday pieces anymore. Hopefully some day I feel I have the time to do so but that time is still not now, what with the whole site situation and all.

>>212029
>oh,man i love the way you draw the loli and shota bodies.

Thanks. Definitely the body type I have the most experience with at this time.

>>212032
>So are we getting a Gwen solo pic too? All this free content from you lately is giving my fapping hand severe nerve damage. I may have to use the other one if you fulfill that request :3

Sadly that was not the plan. The request was for Gwen to be holding a marker and commenting on her new "homemade costume". I asked if instead I could make it a piece of both characters trick-or-treating in matching costumes. The requester liked the idea and I felt I had the time to do so so that's what I went with instead.

>>212042
>Incog could you draw Gwen in lingerie like this if you do decide to work on her? This set would look so cute paired with her skinny tomboy body and adorbz mullet hair-do XD

Don't really have the time to do a random lingerie piece at the time. Still too much I need to get done, in drawing and otherwise.

>>212051
>Good choice. Her movie is one of my all time faves. Definitely looking forward to seeing her doing more porn.

Yeah, out of all of the Disney characters I could think of she seemed the best fit. Sure, some people may not know it, and it may be a very old movie, but I feel Alice in Wonderland is a very well-known classic and that Alice herself is quite iconic as a loli. I definitely don't worry about too many people being unable to recognize her.

>>212052
>I'm getting hard imagining Gwen wearing that underneath her clothes.

Yeah, thinking about it in hindsight I imagine she wears that label all the time so it may not have been much of a "costume" for Gwen.

>>212056
>Incog have you seen Natis' latest artwork? Prodigious and inspirational.
>
>http://8ch.net/loli/res/17728.html

I actually have. It's funny that you bring it up because his situation was mentioned in my Discord channel about 2 days ago and I randomly decided to find that thread to see the status of his situation. Glad to see it's all working out and that he is even able to keep doing what he does best even while behind bars. Even better to see he has people on his side that are even supporting his hobbies/interests now that they're out there. So much time behind bars is a tough break but it seems his situation has a lot of room to pick up once he's out. Sadly I'm so broke as I'd like to show some support for his situation but it would be neat to chat with him about the experience once it's all said and done.

>>212058
>hoo boy I wish I lived in Bellwood >.<

As do I, or rather just anywhere that has Gwen.

>>212063
>Can you please do one or two loli pieces this month until your site is up? Monochrome is totally fine. I can't wait until it's up!

I can try. I'm sure I'll have time to stop and do one or two. I definitely still have to do this month's calendar so that's at least one.

>>212065
>Just reading what Katara said gave me the impression all of your earlier works that had them together actually happened. I almost want to see a combined collection of your previous works and the current comic detailing a chronology of events where the siblings go for it.
>
>Just a crazy idea - remake your previous Katara/Sokka works (InCase is doing it as well remaking older chapters of his Alfie comic) and bundle them with your current one and offer them as a set.

Yeah, I do try and keep my personal canons consistent these days. I figured Sokka/Katara would be fun to do as adults since while I cannot draw them younger on Patreon I could at least refer to my own canon relationship between the two. I do feel it may be worth remaking some of my past works. I'm sure plenty of them I could enjoy in concept if not for being unwilling to look at my older works. It could also serve as a fun exercise, but I do already plan to reboot my first Katie/Jack comic so that's likely when I will first do so.
No.212079
Anonymous
Whow Whow Fucking WHOWH, did i heard something about that Artist NATIS being in jail?

Like, for REAL?

WHY?
No.212082
Anonymous
Replies:>>212126
Incog do you have a plan on how you will monetize your content? If you are thinking about some radical approach then please consider bitcoins as an alternative payment.
No.212085
Anonymous
>>212079
wrong thread
No.212086
Anonymous
>>212023
I could see Ben going only to teen girls and adult single ladies this Halloween.
No.212092
Anonymous
>>212079
Go here bro http://8ch.net/loli/res/17728.html
It's an ongoing saga.
No.212094
Anonymous
Hey Incog, would you be willing to share your process on creating clean line art?
No.212096
Anonymous
Replies:>>212126
>>212094
Maybe wait for the tutorial section on his website, right incog?
No.212097
Anonymous
>>212092
You don't need to link them. Just saying he actually had child porn is enough.
Cartoons are one thing and lolis are great, but getting real people involved is fucked up.
No.212099
Anonymous
>>212077
This better end with her getting pregnant
No.212101
Anonymous
Replies:>>212126
>>212097
Agree. Absolute 100% zero tolerance with extreme prejudice on what Natis did. He's paying for his crime though.
No.212110
Anonymous
Incog, why are all the characters always in the same positions while having sex? Like it's always doggystyle, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and occasionally they're on their stomach. It's just kinda weird, because I assume that they think that porn is what sex is like and they'd do a lot of the positions in porn. I just think a little variety would be cool.
No.212111
Anonymous
>>212110
Funny how you didn't suggest any position in particular.

Complaining about lack of creativity when you yourself suffer from it?
No.212119
Anonymous
>>212110
What the hell man isn't seeing the genitalia locked in full penetrative sex enough for you? Because I think the positions you listed are the ones that enable for them to be viewed.
No.212121
Pepipopo
Replies:>>212126
>>212097
DA FUCK!!!!!?????


(Goes broke for a few minutes)

FUCK THAT GUY THEN, THATS ENOUGH FOR ME! FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT! ILL REMEMER YOU ALL ON THERAPY!
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>>212077
>Just one more page to go and then I fear I am out of updates to give until I get progress on my next comic.

Is that next comic Sultry Summer please say yes >__<
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

Here is the final page for this set. Nothing fancy to close it up, just sort of ends. Didn't plan anything fancy as this was intended as a practice set to try out something new. Moving on to a new monochromatic comic for Patreon next while I still work out this site.

>>212079
>Whow Whow Fucking WHOWH, did i heard something about that Artist NATIS being in jail?
>
>Like, for REAL?
>
>WHY?

As someone else pointed out: >>212092
>Go here bro http://8ch.net/loli/res/17728.html
>It's an ongoing saga.

>>212082
>Incog do you have a plan on how you will monetize your content? If you are thinking about some radical approach then please consider bitcoins as an alternative payment.

I have a subscription service it just needs to be implemented by someone when it's ready. I don't have control over which options are available so I'm pretty sure it will just be debit/credit/prepaid. PayPal is not an option for legal reasons outside of maybe a donate button and I don't believe a lot of services will accept bitcoins.

>>212094
>Hey Incog, would you be willing to share your process on creating clean line art?

I guess I could do that. I've been intending to make some tutorials on topics that people question me about often just for the sake of answering said questions in detail.

>>212096
>Maybe wait for the tutorial section on his website, right incog?

Hmm, I could maybe make a section if I make enough tutorials.

>>212101
>Agree. Absolute 100% zero tolerance with extreme prejudice on what Natis did. He's paying for his crime though.

Hey, the dude had a bad situation, got drunk in and did something stupid. I'd personally view him getting drunk and then getting into a car to be a far worse scenario but more people do that on a regular basis without such prejudice against them and with a lesser punishment when caught.

>>212110
>Incog, why are all the characters always in the same positions while having sex? Like it's always doggystyle, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and occasionally they're on their stomach. It's just kinda weird, because I assume that they think that porn is what sex is like and they'd do a lot of the positions in porn. I just think a little variety would be cool.

Hey, I also draw them on their backs and on occasion being lifted. Doggystyle, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, on their back, on their stomach and being lifted (I think it's called "suspended congress") about covers the natural positions in my mind, although I guess spooning could be added more. Everything else I feel is purely porn trying to be complicated/original with positions, most of which would not be very comfortable in actual practice.

>>212121
>DA FUCK!!!!!?????
>
>
>(Goes broke for a few minutes)
>
>FUCK THAT GUY THEN, THATS ENOUGH FOR ME! FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT! ILL REMEMER YOU ALL ON THERAPY!

Hey, no need to be so judgmental. Again, dude got drunk and did something stupid. Most people do something along them lines. Hell, it's a very common thing for people to get drunk and rape someone or risk injuring/killing someone in a vehicle and that is for some reason looked upon as a bad but generally more typical behavior. Lets put things into perspective here and not just let subjective morality lead the way.

>>212122
>Is that next comic Sultry Summer please say yes >__<

I wish, but until I am able to receive support outside of Patreon I will have to prioritize Patreon exclusive content. My Patreon page did not work all that well when content was not locked behind it so I need to do what I know works to pay the bills in the meantime.
No.212127
Anonymous
talking about Sultry Summer will you edit the patreon logo out of the previous 4 pages?
No.212128
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
>>212127
You think Incog has power over Paheal and everywhere else they were uploaded?
No.212129
Anonymous
Replies:>>212134
>>212127
You could probably do that yourself chief
No.212130
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
Incog will you continue the Ben 10 comic?
No.212134
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
>>212129
i think he said that because if he later continue the comic it could cause problems whit patreon? then again consistency sake?
No.212137
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
>Hey, I also draw them on their backs and on occasion being lifted. Doggystyle, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, on their back, on their stomach and being lifted (I think it's called "suspended congress") about covers the natural positions in my mind, although I guess spooning could be added more. Everything else I feel is purely porn trying to be complicated/original with positions, most of which would not be very comfortable in actual practice.

Are there certain positions that you deem as your favorite when drawing them? Are there also positions you don't like either to the position itself not being arousing or very difficult to draw?
No.212138
Anonymous
>>212126
>Hmm, I could maybe make a section if I make enough tutorials.

Perfect. Only after then please, your time is precious.
No.212139
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
>>212126
>Hey, no need to be so judgmental. Again, dude got drunk and did something stupid

Never saw it from that perspective. His case makes it obvious the laws need to be tweaked slightly. Zero tolerance tries to set an example but hardly stopping the supply.
No.212141
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
>>212126
>Hey, the dude had a bad situation, got drunk in and did something stupid.

Pretty damn extraordinary how supportive Natis' sister is too. She's his "number one fan".
No.212151
Anonymous
Let me break up all of you guys' little hugbox:

Natis knew what he was doing and his whole "it was in my cache" thing is bullshit and he deserves more than his sentence.

You apologists make loli fans look bad.
No.212152
Pepipopo
You know i still don't know AT ALL what the fuck happened with that story, but all the pieces that i know is that he did some stupid shit and it involve the real deal.

I am sorry but if my suspicions are true, than i have ZERO sympathy for that individual and people like him.

All i want to know is what the hell happened, just given a simple explanation, that's all.

sorry for being crass, but.........................JESUS
No.212153
Anonymous
Replies:>>212164
>>212063

Maybe he could add tones to sketches that he's done before? I remember him saying that he wanted to line the one page comic with jade a while ago.
No.212154
Anonymous
>>212152
Why don't you check one of the 100 links where this is discussed that have been mentioned previously in the post?

>>212151
Oh, cool. You can see what happens everywhere at any time and also see what's in people's heads? What are you doing here, oh mighty creator? Go build a religion.
No.212156
Anonymous
>>212151
Citation needed
No.212157
Anonymous
>>212152
In a little fucked up state of mind (not really important) he got curious how the "real deal" looks like. So (now the important part) he downloaded some stuff from P2P to have a look. It's there, freely available to everyone, no extra skills required. He did not do anything to any child, nor did he encourage (e.g. by money) anyone else do to anything. In other words, his actions had exactly zero effect on any child. It's not like he should get a fucking medal, but calling it a crime, locking him up for few years, and some people even crying it's not enough... I guess we all have different ideas of justice.
No.212158
Anonymous
>>212151
>how DARE he look at pictures of naked kids unlike us normal people who look at photoaccurate drawings of naked kids

I know there's a moral difference and you want to avoid "encouraging" the production or whatever, but don't you think that that's a touch hypocritical? I mean you make the guy sound like he drove a van around with "free candy" on it to recruit for his secret rape dungeon where he tortures babies and sacrifices goats, as opposed to a single drunk accident where he did stupid things and almost killed himself.

>>212152
Go read the blog.

http://johnstonblackhorsetheoneandonly.blogspot.hu/2016/09/to-whom-it-concernspart-1.html

tl;dr - He's a regular artist who was into loli amongst other things, he had a shitty ex who made him give up drawing and nearly drove him to suicide over the course of a few years, she reported him to the feds for jacking off to "CP" (loli drawings), after which he went "fuck you bitch I might as well look at actual CP then before I die" (which basically meant models and nudist pictures he could find on short notice, not a 4TB collection he already had) so he got fucked once he was investigated for the drawings. It's easy to be judgmental and call him an idiot, but put yourself in his shoes for a minute and try to exercise at least some basic decency. He makes a really good point on his blog about how easy it is to frame or accuse someone of CP possession and give them unjust sentences (which he doesn't name his own as, he's talking about other people who had it way worse than him). If anything, it's kind of hilarious how much of a "scrub" the guy is in that sense, and how little he got incarcerated for, even if it's a relatively short sentence and he'll be out next year.

Now stop shitting up the thread, go to the 8ch one if you want to argue about morals. Fuck whoever brought it up and fuck people who keep responding, myself included.
No.212162
Anonymous
Replies:>>212165
>>212158
oh, decency.
I am sure that, given the situation, where he would need to decide to be in an isolated island with ten loli artists who downloaded the real deal, and ten ISIS soldiers, he would choose the latter, for they are DECENT and religious people
No.212164
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous

You can find my latest works at http://jabarchives.com/main/profile/incognitymous

So I'm about to make a new thread but don't have any new loli content to post. Feels sort of dirty but I don't have this month's girl decided yet so I'm not capable of making the next calendar piece to start a thread with. I'm sure the thread will die again by the time it's decided so it will be a filler thread anyway, but I'll be posting the cover of my current 18+ project to start it with. That out of the way I'll respond to some comments here before making the new thread.

>>212127
>talking about Sultry Summer will you edit the patreon logo out of the previous 4 pages?

I actually most likely will for the sake of consistency. I'll likely do it when I start it up again.

>>212128
>You think Incog has power over Paheal and everywhere else they were uploaded?

Well I could easily get them pulled from Paheal but other places maybe not as easily.

>>212130
>Incog will you continue the Ben 10 comic?

Yes.

>>212134
>i think he said that because if he later continue the comic it could cause problems whit patreon? then again consistency sake?

It's not that it will cause problems with Patreon but that I cannot use Patreon to support it. I've still got bills to pay while I work out a replacement for Patreon on that front so I need to stick with what I can make exclusive in the meantime. The "support me while I post stuff free for everyone" model didn't work in the past and I'm not in a spot to gamble on it working this time.

>>212137
>Are there certain positions that you deem as your favorite when drawing them? Are there also positions you don't like either to the position itself not being arousing or very difficult to draw?

My favorite positions to draw are indeed doggystyle, girl on belly/back or cowgirl/reverse cowgirl. These poses offer the most potential to actually display penetration (and butts) without having to rely solely on closeup panels. There's not really any positions I am against outside of poses that look like they would be painful/uncomfortable for either side.

>>212139
>Never saw it from that perspective. His case makes it obvious the laws need to be tweaked slightly. Zero tolerance tries to set an example but hardly stopping the supply.

"Zero tolerance" is a terrible policy for something that can have such detrimental consequences on a person's life. "Zero tolerance" is how you have a parent end up arrested for having an innocent bath time photo of their own child. I've seen people with perfect records make a single poor choice due to a desperate situation or a single mishap and end up with felony records, thus being unable to find jobs or suitable housing, which really seems to encourage or sometimes even force actual criminal activity. The extent of a crime, a person's track record with the law and the reasons behind what happened really need to be considered when dishing out such a severe, life altering punishment.

>>212141
>Pretty damn extraordinary how supportive Natis' sister is too. She's his "number one fan".

That is quite surprising. Not the type of reaction one would expect and definitely shows an open mind on her part.

>>212151
>Let me break up all of you guys' little hugbox:
>
>Natis knew what he was doing and his whole "it was in my cache" thing is bullshit and he deserves more than his sentence.
>
>You apologists make loli fans look bad.

When did he ever try to make an excuse? He admitted he downloaded it. He did not claim that he accidentally came across it, which for the record is a much more common scenario than people would like to acknowledge. Neither you nor I can fully know what happened, but that doesn't mean we should assume the worst and make judgmental accusations based on self-imposed concepts of personal moral superiority.

>>212152
>You know i still don't know AT ALL what the fuck happened with that story, but all the pieces that i know is that he did some stupid shit and it involve the real deal.
>
>I am sorry but if my suspicions are true, than i have ZERO sympathy for that individual and people like him.
>
>All i want to know is what the hell happened, just given a simple explanation, that's all.
>
>sorry for being crass, but.........................JESUS
>

As others explained in more detail, his girlfriend found out about his loli art, insulted/exploited him for a large period of time with her findings, made him feel depressed, her turned to alcoholism, got into a suicidal mindset while drunk, thus likely losing most sense of inhibition, and then made the mistake of downloading P2P files of nude minors. While I agree he made a mistake and that disciplinary action should be taken, I also agree people need to drop these moral preconceptions that he is worthy of no pity or compassion and that he should be punished for eternity because of a sexual preference. This is the exact mindset that has always led to homosexuals being judged/persecuted, which coincidentally is something that has been judged harshly throughout human history far longer than the concept of pedophilia, which has actually been promoted for most of human existence. Again, not saying past tendencies make anything okay, but I am making real world comparisons to put things into a more objective perspective.

>>212153
>Maybe he could add tones to sketches that he's done before? I remember him saying that he wanted to line the one page comic with jade a while ago.

I would like to at least line and maybe color/tone all of my previously unfinished sketches, including the Katara/Sokka pages, the Jade page, the nuGwen sketches and the unfinished Gwen animation. It's all a matter of getting things caught up so I can do so. I plan to take small breaks on comics between chapters in the future where I can knock out little things like that on the side, but how fast I can catch things up will determine how soon that happens.
No.212165
Incognitymous
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>>212158
>I know there's a moral difference and you want to avoid "encouraging" the production or whatever, but don't you think that that's a touch hypocritical? I mean you make the guy sound like he drove a van around with "free candy" on it to recruit for his secret rape dungeon where he tortures babies and sacrifices goats, as opposed to a single drunk accident where he did stupid things and almost killed himself.

Yeah, I see that as the major problem. It's not about anyone saying what he did was okay, it's about acknowledging that people blow it out of proportion. Pedophilia is no different than any other form of what people today consider "sexual deviancy". People these days are rising up and protecting gay/bi/trans/whatever rights on the basis that people cannot choose their sexuality, which is a point I feel more and more people can agree on. To all of the "normal" heterosexual people here that may disagree with this statement, when did you actively make the decision in life to like members of the opposite sex? I can guarantee you did not and that you just followed your personal biological functions that found them appealing.

The problem as I see it is that people are finally becoming aware of this fact, hence all of the increasing support to protect gay/bi/trans rights, but they then turn around and hypocritically ignore their own points when it comes to a form of sexuality they disagree with. Having a sexual desire/preference in and of itself should not be a crime. I may not have any interest in necrophilia/gore porn, or scat, or rape, or many other fetishes people are into, but I'm not going to morally judge someone for something they cannot control. I'd only be willing to judge based on whether or not these interests have a negative impact on another person, and even then you have to consider how their personal choice plays a role in this. Raping/harming another person? Yes, severe punishment. Giving in to temptation and making the mistake of downloading an openly accessible photograph? Punishment? Sure, they should be disciplined. Years of their life and a permanent mark on their record that will haunt them for the rest of it? That's going way beyond a bit overboard.

>>212162
>oh, decency.
>I am sure that, given the situation, where he would need to decide to be in an isolated island with ten loli artists who downloaded the real deal, and ten ISIS soldiers, he would choose the latter, for they are DECENT and religious people

Sadly not as exaggerated as it seems.

>>212158
>Now stop shitting up the thread, go to the 8ch one if you want to argue about morals. Fuck whoever brought it up and fuck people who keep responding, myself included.

Normally I'd agree, but dead thread is dead. Shit away I say.
No.212173
Anonymous
I'll admit to being condemning of Johnston initially until I read his story. You really have to read it to see the full picture. He's drawn comics about it while in jail which are in his blog. Personal, remorseful stuff.
No.212177
Anonymous
New thread http://boards.plus4chan.net/pco/t212166.html