>>48402 It's being review-bombed the fuck out of by The Usual Suspects. It has a high IMDB rating, an A-grade Cinemascore, and usually-reserved British audience I saw the movie with clapped several times during let alone at the end, not to mention it's garnered a $105 million opening day in North America with remarkably little drop-off for a movie this enormous. There's thousands of brand-new RT accounts leaving half-star reviews, some complaining about the film being anti-male propaganda and other such bollocks.
I enjoyed it, for one. I'm definitely looking forward to whatever Johnson's planning for his trilogy.
>>48403 Like I said up there, I was terribly disappointed by the movie. Hell, the more I think about it, the less I like it. I had some problems with both TFA and Rogue One but ultimately I liked them, but not here.
I have many, many things I disliked about the movie, but by far my biggest gripe it was how utterly pointless, unsatisfying, and wasted everything felt, doubly so the extremely cheap deaths. Just look at Snoke, the guy ended up as a big nothing, the big bad of the story actually doesn't matter. What the hell. It is pretty obvious to me that there was a big clash of ideas and egos after TFA, and this movie is going to feel even worse after J.J. returns for the next installement.
But as I also mentioned before, I found Kylo Ren the big positive in the film, so far I am thoroughly enjoying the character.
>some complaining about the film being anti-male propaganda and other such bollocks. I really hope this doesn't become the next Ghostbusters, where one immediately gets labeled and put alongside the worst people ever at the mere suggestion of not having enjoyed the movie.
A massive improvement over TFA (in originality and logic), still at the end new force powers and unseen possibilities are introduced to quickly solve the conflicts. And TLJ still does not undo TFA, so...... yeah.
>Luke sees "the darkness" inside Kylo, and considers killing him >hesitates cause he is good, Kylo still sees it, fight ensues, and Kylo gets his just motivation to turn on the jedi >at the end we learn that Kylo is just too rotten, and was unsavable anyway >it was because of Luke hesitating to do "the wrong thing" millions of people died, including Han and an entire planet of innocents
Still, there are a lot of good scenes and unexpected subversions, so even if you don't accept the NEW!canon, it is still worth a watch at least once.
That is my short review. I stand by the above words, and if I change my mind, a huge asteroid will hit this planet. It is a good thing I don't believe in such a possibility.
>Just look at Snoke, the guy ended up as a big nothing, the big bad of the story actually doesn't matter. What the hell.
There are a lot of valid criticisms of TLJ. That ain’t one of them.
The Original Trilogy did damn near the same thing with Emperor Palpatine, after all. He is only ever mentioned, never seen, in ANH. He shows up only during a holographic communication with Vader in ESB. And when he finally shows up proper in ROTJ, we learn nothing about him—not even his name—beyond his being both the emperor of the Empire and a user of the Dark Side of The Force. He exists in the background of the Original Trilogy until the films need Luke to face Palpatine as a way of testing the former’s resolve to being a Jedi. Palpatine only seems like more of a character now because of the Prequel Trilogy.
There is a huge difference, in the OT Palpatine was the one who sets up the big climax of the trilogy, he IS the final boss so to speak. Snoke wasn't even in this film's climax, he died in the middle of the movie. He is Count Dooku level of pointless.
>>48408 [spoiler]In the OT, Palpatine is a Macguffin who is completely unnecessary to the plot other than as a faraway thing that drives it. You are engaging in irrational nerdery by treating him as an actually important figure.
Well, if there is an actual organized campaign against TLJ, and obvious question should be, where is it? Where are they organizing the alleged review bombing? Stuff like GamerGate had VERY obvious central hubs where the assholes set up their assholery plans.