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Now that the dust has settled, which was the superior Disney neo-Star Wars sequel kino?
No.48398
Anonymous
Vol.2
No.48399
Anonymous
the two are entirely incomparable
No.48400
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>48397

>Now that the dust has settled

Fuck you.
No.48401
Anonymous
Found it horribly disappointing. The only highlights for me were Yoda and what they did with Kylo (which I honestly wasn't expecting).
No.48402
Anonymous
Replies:>>48403
>RT score for The Last Jedi
>96% among the top critics
>93% all critics
>56% audience score

OK, this is curious to say the least.
No.48403
rasputin_zero !!e9Z+3lbULwW
>>48402
It's being review-bombed the fuck out of by The Usual Suspects. It has a high IMDB rating, an A-grade Cinemascore, and usually-reserved British audience I saw the movie with clapped several times during let alone at the end, not to mention it's garnered a $105 million opening day in North America with remarkably little drop-off for a movie this enormous. There's thousands of brand-new RT accounts leaving half-star reviews, some complaining about the film being anti-male propaganda and other such bollocks.

I enjoyed it, for one. I'm definitely looking forward to whatever Johnson's planning for his trilogy.
No.48404
Rodyle !Cljnc/gZnM
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So the list is now
Empire
Return/Last
TFA
New Hope
Rogue One
No.48405
Anonymous
Replies:>>48407
>>48403
Like I said up there, I was terribly disappointed by the movie. Hell, the more I think about it, the less I like it. I had some problems with both TFA and Rogue One but ultimately I liked them, but not here.

I have many, many things I disliked about the movie, but by far my biggest gripe it was how utterly pointless, unsatisfying, and wasted everything felt, doubly so the extremely cheap deaths. Just look at Snoke, the guy ended up as a big nothing, the big bad of the story actually doesn't matter. What the hell. It is pretty obvious to me that there was a big clash of ideas and egos after TFA, and this movie is going to feel even worse after J.J. returns for the next installement.

But as I also mentioned before, I found Kylo Ren the big positive in the film, so far I am thoroughly enjoying the character.

>some complaining about the film being anti-male propaganda and other such bollocks.
I really hope this doesn't become the next Ghostbusters, where one immediately gets labeled and put alongside the worst people ever at the mere suggestion of not having enjoyed the movie.

>>48404
Mine is:

Empire
New Hope
TFA
Return
Rogue One
Revenge
Last Jedi
Phantom
Attack
No.48406
Mister Twister
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A massive improvement over TFA (in originality and logic), still at the end new force powers and unseen possibilities are introduced to quickly solve the conflicts. And TLJ still does not undo TFA, so...... yeah.

>Luke sees "the darkness" inside Kylo, and considers killing him
>hesitates cause he is good, Kylo still sees it, fight ensues, and Kylo gets his just motivation to turn on the jedi
>at the end we learn that Kylo is just too rotten, and was unsavable anyway
>it was because of Luke hesitating to do "the wrong thing" millions of people died, including Han and an entire planet of innocents

Still, there are a lot of good scenes and unexpected subversions, so even if you don't accept the NEW!canon, it is still worth a watch at least once.

That is my short review. I stand by the above words, and if I change my mind, a huge asteroid will hit this planet. It is a good thing I don't believe in such a possibility.
No.48407
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>48408
>>48405

>Just look at Snoke, the guy ended up as a big nothing, the big bad of the story actually doesn't matter. What the hell.

There are a lot of valid criticisms of TLJ. That ain’t one of them.

The Original Trilogy did damn near the same thing with Emperor Palpatine, after all. He is only ever mentioned, never seen, in ANH. He shows up only during a holographic communication with Vader in ESB. And when he finally shows up proper in ROTJ, we learn nothing about him—not even his name—beyond his being both the emperor of the Empire and a user of the Dark Side of The Force. He exists in the background of the Original Trilogy until the films need Luke to face Palpatine as a way of testing the former’s resolve to being a Jedi. Palpatine only seems like more of a character now because of the Prequel Trilogy.
No.48408
Anonymous
Replies:>>48409
>>48407

There is a huge difference, in the OT Palpatine was the one who sets up the big climax of the trilogy, he IS the final boss so to speak. Snoke wasn't even in this film's climax, he died in the middle of the movie. He is Count Dooku level of pointless.
No.48409
Anonymous
>>48408
[spoiler]In the OT, Palpatine is a Macguffin who is completely unnecessary to the plot other than as a faraway thing that drives it. You are engaging in irrational nerdery by treating him as an actually important figure.
No.48411
Anonymous
Replies:>>48412
>>48403
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/20/rotten-tomatoes-confirms-its-55-last-jedi-audience-score-is-100-authentic

RT did a review on the 55% audience score, and found nothing out of ordinary about it, seems that the review-bomb theory isn't the explanation.
No.48412
Rodyle !Cljnc/gZnM
Replies:>>48413
>>48411
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/12/21/is-a-mens-rights-activist-sabotaging-the-last-jedi-review-scores-or-do-people-just-hate-it/?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.06f3d1a86329

RT's isn't a reliable source given that of course they'd claim their security is fine. Most of the lowest scores are totally from fresh accounts which is the reddest flag.
No.48413
Mister Twister
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>>48412
If I was just a little more pissed, I would make a RT thread just to shit on the movie.

Just saying.
No.48414
Rodyle !Cljnc/gZnM
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>>48413
You've been posting the same kind of terrible half-thoughts for literal years, often sprinkled with right wing propaganda, so this isn't really much of a threat to be honest.
No.48415
Mister Twister
>>48414
I haven't read a post this stupid in some time.

But you know? Have a (you).
No.48416
Anonymous
Well, if there is an actual organized campaign against TLJ, and obvious question should be, where is it? Where are they organizing the alleged review bombing? Stuff like GamerGate had VERY obvious central hubs where the assholes set up their assholery plans.
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Mister Twister
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https://twitter.com/KyloR3n/status/944245043346493440
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Mister Twister
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Mister Twister
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>>48418
... and the sequel has been made.
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Mister Twister
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Rebels has not finished yet, but the end has begun. And BOI is it good.
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Deon
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>>48431
That it was.
No.48434
Mister Twister
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>>48432
I will never stop wishing the cliffhanger wasn't there. Could have ended on a high note, but no, we need to keep going until forever.
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Deon
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>>48434
Maybe it's what the next show is about.
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Anonymous
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>>48436
Next show takes place during the Resistance right around TFA timeline
No.417251
Mister Twister
>>417250
Which is....... a problem.