/mtv/ - Music, Television & Film

I wouldn’t normally link to this sort of Twitter, but the rampant stupidity of this tweet must be seen to be believed:

https://twitter.com/ReturnOfKings/status/681520510937636864

>>44571
You just signal boosted a shitpost.

>>44572

Look at who you’re replying to.

>>44571
No thanks.

>>44578
>it's like a breakup
>open wounds
>it's very hard
>the films were my kids


Lucas, bro, you sold the damn thing to Disney. You even sold it for relatively cheap. The interviewer even brings it up.

>>44579
He waned to make sequels, but was conflicted about it. He knew he was quite old. He also knew he hasn't been able to follow up on his old promise of returning to experimental films. He ALSO knew he had to let go and resign from being in charge of SW at some point.

So, he did all three. A part of him regrets not killing off the franchise, another part wishes he would have made the sequels himself, and yet another part is happy his burden has finally been lifted. He is free now, free of Star Wars.

>>44583
Oh my god! What's wrong with your face?

Good to know I'm not the only one who immediately thought Threepio looked kinda Punished there.

He's my favorite chuuni.

http://stutterhug.tumblr.com/post/136283401787/jedi-mice-collected-tfa-twitter-sillys

Dat BB-8.

>>44597
>http://stutterhug.tumblr.com/post/136283401787/jedi-mice-collected-tfa-twitter-sillys
Cute~

And I forgot this came out too.
//youtube.com/watch?v=DmFImtgjoWE
Good points, bad jokes -.-

>>44581

Lucas just said that selling SW to Disney was like selling his children to white slavers. Not only the comment is insensitive if not downright offensive, it's painting himself as a victim. He didn't NEED to sell the IP, and nobody put a gun to his head to do so. He did it because he didn't care anymore, and now has the nerve to complain.

>>44599
He was joking, you dumb fuck. He even chuckled after he said that.

>>44600
Of course he was joking

It's a terrible joke

>>44603
That's our George

>>44600
So, saying dumb and offensive crap is OK as long as I am joking. Good to know.

>>44605
>offensive
Offense is never given, it is taken. If you choose to be offended, that's fine by me.

>>44606
>"If I act like an asshole, it's not my fault and I should not face repercussions for it."

>>44607
But only if you say it was a joke afterwards.

>>44607
>>44608
Both of you are retards. And probably shitposters, but you can never tell.

>>44609
Lucas today admitted the comment was innappropiate, mate. No need to defend your king's honor anymore.

>>44610
And he didn't have to, but I guess too many people like you screamed OFFENDED! and he had to say something.

>>44606

Punches are never given, they are taken. If you choose to get punched, that's fine by me.

>>44620


Find some of the old Clone Pods. Starts making TR-8R clones. Put them everywhere.

>>44622
>>44621
Did Disney have any active role in shaping that perception or did fans just assume that she would be beforehand because of her design? There's three movies to go, I already expected that not all of the new introduced characters would have time to shine.

>>44626
She has some merchandise pushing her and apparently she's in the other ones.

>>44628
D'awww that's adorable.

>>44629
So many seem to have that Childlike glee that Mark Hamill does. I can only see this as a good thing going forward.

//youtube.com/watch?v=z31VsDuJ5oo

>>44630
John Boyega is also fucking great. Great as Finn, fun in interviews. His enthusiasm's infectious.

Am I just misremembering I thought Luke's robot hand was so nice that from a glance it appears to be a real hand.

>>44632
It's super robotic for some reason.

I can't believe there was no Wilhelm scream anywhere in the film.

>>44637
There was in the beginning when Finn and Poe were making their big escape.

>>44638
Well its not Rey according to the rest of the fanbase.

>>44641
Huh? Most people ship her with Finn, Poe, or Kylo, and it's mentioned in the novels she thinks Poe's hot stuff. There are people who insist she's a lesbian or bi, but not as much as I thought.

>>44639
Must have been quiet or really well-hidden, because none of my friends noticed it either.

>>44645
//youtube.com/watch?v=m7eCGbt1XTU
This bit. Not very loud in the actual scene, hence why it's easy to miss.

>>44646
They've used it in the commercials a couple of times.

//youtube.com/watch?v=x0Jl765IRYo

>>44648
I like Kylo Ren but I hate how his fans are trying to turn him into the next Loki. Dude did some shitty things, but the movie didn't have the time or interest to flesh the more sympathetic side of him in detail, so instead he just looks like a self-absorbed whiner.

>>44648
Are you... unable to enjoy things because of other fans?

Because if yes, then I got an image for you.

>>44652
Missing that red arm.

>>44656
Why did he have that arm, anyways? I mean, it was funny for a gag ("You probably didn't recognize me!"), but then he lost it by the end of the movie. I kind of assumed that that was just going to be the new look for him.

>>44659
The in-universe explanation will be told in one of those new SW comics Marvel is publishing.

As for the real "why", Abrams said that he wanted to show the passage of time for all the characters, so the red arm was a reminder that even Threepio has been doing stuff since the last time we saw him.

>>44662

the real "why" is what >>44661 said. You have the C-3PO figures, but now buy the C-3PO figures with RED ARMS!

I doubt JJ even thought about "showing the passage of time" with regards to the movie, at any rate he certainly didn't do that with R2 who had about as much screentime as 3PO and had more of an impact on the story.

Reminder that "classic" C-3PO had a silver shin.

>>44663
Speaking about plot purposes, bro. And that's what JJ said, dont shoot the messenger.

R2 did show the passage of time, the guy literally was left in a corner collecting dust.

>>44670
She likes him because he's a screwup, not because he's "a bad boy".

http://spiderjewel.tumblr.com/post/136665897703/is-it-just-me-or-rey-looks-like-padme-during

//youtube.com/watch?v=oMVrMP8us6Q
WHAT THE SHIT!?

>>44675
//youtube.com/watch?v=UJOjTNuuEVw

>>44675

The use of Robot Chicken's voice actors just reminds me how much worse it is in comparison... Ah well, at least the Palpatine bits were good.

>>44675
It's fucking Teen Titans GO! all over again.

>>44676
Also this.

>>44676
Its literally robot chicken with horrible visuals.

They teach Kylo Ren prequel style floppy spiny jumpy light saber combat so that it will be all terribly symbolic when he still loses to practical original trilogy style combat.

>>44684
That kinda already happened this movie. You see him swinging his sword in circles while his opponents go for more pragmatic strikes.

Perhaps Snoke purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

>>44679
I think he told her about Finn pussying out at the start of the movie.
But thats why its a crack ship.

>>44684
You don't know they used professional sword fighters as consultants for the prequels? Or you don't think they were professional enough?

>>44688
Not him, but in the prequels the swordmaster is Nick Gillard, a stunt coordinator who kinda knows how to handle a sword, which is why everything is so flashy and with all sorts of cool looking acrobatics and nonsensical flips and kicks. In contrast, the OT had Bob Anderson as the swordmaster, an actual olympic fencer.

>>44689
Fencer, true. But the way lightsabers are used is very far away from that. Japanese swords ≠ european rapiers.

>>44690
And how japanese swords are used isn't exactly doing backflips and spinning your weapon like it was a glowstick in a rave party. I am not sure what the arguement is here, the fact that the lightsaber fighting in the prequels is unrealistic and overdone IS the point, it's supposed to show that properly trained Jedis in their prime are crazy superhuman sonofbitches. I don't particulary like how the result looked onscreen, but I do understand the logic behind it.

>>44691
I am not sure there was an argument, I was just replying to people.

So, apparently Disney Infinity went and flubbed things by spoiling Kylo and Rey are cousins.

>>44695
Eh, listening to it, it didn't really spoil that. It's an obvious plot twist, but he's not saying cousin in the game.

>>44695
Nope, he says "curses". It's a mishearing.

>>44699
He threw her against a tree. If the aim was slightly off, he could have killed her.

http://oneperfectshotdb.com/news/must-watch-star-wars-without-star-wars-a-new-hope-recut/

Neat.

>>44704
>post about how mad they make you
Much like you and Tumblr?

>>44703
Usually in shipping, especially when it's with the bad boy, the girl's feelings don't matter, as she's instead replaced with a self-insert of the author or artist and their desires.

>>44712
I know that already, I mean what's the ship's appeal if you're not one of the types I listed?

>>44719
So fapbait reasons then? Fair enough.

>>44719
Well, I am not giving those people any respect. You can, if you want.

Guys, SHUT UP.

>>44723
NOOOOOOOO!

>>44724
This.

>>44728
>But it also had a lot of great stories in it

It still has. Those books, comics and such, they still do exist. Ninjas hired by Disney did not break into your home at night and emptied your shelved off EU material.

I am frankly at loss at the idea of apparently being so dependant of canonicity, of endorsement and approval by either Lucas or the Disney bunch, because who gives a damn? Thrawn remains one cool badass mofo, canon be damned. Nothing changes that.

>>44734

We've still got two movies.

>>44734
I like the idea of Finn having canon childlike crushes on both Finn and Rey but them not reciprocating. Why can't more people get one-sided pairings in general? They can be plenty cute/interesting in their own way.

>>44738
>Finn/Finn
I knew hardcore shippers were crazy, but...... this is a whole new level.

>>44739

Heh Twin Finns.

>>44740

Finn is actually a small test batch clone project. Finds the other surviving clone.

>Myownclone!.jpg

So, today I learned of the Thrawn Trilogy, and that it was apparently approved by good ol' Georgie.

Will read someday.

>>44739
>>44740
Damnit, meant Finn crushing on Poe.

>>44739
Shipping the best character with the best character. Everybody wins.

>>44715
>>44745


Also, now I know what I will be doing with my life when I am not busy working or having other types of fun. I will be editing the Thrawn Trilogy to make if fit with the current SW canon (sans TFA).

>>44746
They'd worked that out at one point and even had Zahn write the novel of Jorus C'Baoth's big trip to outside the galaxy once the prequels were done.

>>44747
Enlighten me please. I only learned of the trilogy yesterday, and aside from it
- being very good
- being approved and liked by good ol' Georgie at the time
- contradicting the current canon in some places
I know nothing about it.

Isn't it they are mostly picking and choosing things from the EU to add when and where they feel it fits and works with their current running canon?

>>44749
Yes. That's exactly what they are doing. That is how Mandalore ended up in The Clone Wars, and how a mon-calamari invented the B-wing in Rebels.

>>44750
At that time the EU was still canon though, wasn't it?

>>44751
First and foremost, remember that a lot of EU was completely retarded and out of character and shit. Not everything there was good, plus a lot of inconsistencies and contradictions.

Second, the system worked like this: movies are A-canon, Thrawn is B-canon, cartoon and comic spinoffs are C-canon, so forth. Everything is canon until the movies contradict. 99% of EU was temporarily supported fanfiction. During TCW, the team would pick and choose the best EU plot ideas and polish, improve, and incorporate into the show.

NOW, any new "officially cannon" works can steal ideas from the EU and make it canon again.

A very few select things from the EU, like KOTOR, are kinda canon, until Lucasfilm announces they're not.

I wonder if anything from Shadows of the Empire is going to show up. The movie was this close to being called Shadow of the Empire without the "s".

>>44748
It's where Mara Jade comes from.

>>44750
Except for the bit where they butchered Mandalore for TCW. That's the thing that really irks me, when they take something good and twist it up into crap and that crap holds more weight than the good stuff.
>>44736
Sweet fuck, the two characters I hate most...

>>44751
> the EU was still canon

Yes and no. The official policy was that the only real solid "this actually happened" canon was the movies, everything else according to Lucasfilm was "sure, why not, as long as it doesn't contradict the movies". If you look into it, before the Disney acquisition, there was five levels of canon material.

>>44755
Mandalore was butchered long before TCW touched it. If anything they helped redeem it from the blatant fan fiction it had become.

>>44755
They took something alright, and twisted it into awesome. Different ≠ bad.

They took a warrior people and turned them into pacifists.
That is the exact opposite of awesome.

>>44759
I think you missed the point of >>44757

>>44760
Considering how much of the exact same treatment the Jedi had, I'm not considering the Mandolorians to have been that badly tarnished by their time in the books.
Star Wars has always been blatant fan fiction.

Atlest these cool ass mofos survied the end of EU.
//youtube.com/watch?v=Hxr5XlXekBM
G'night!

>>44762
The only real thing that separates "fanfiction" from "sequel written by a different person" is the level of quality.

Being officially recognized doesn't hurt either.

>>44765
Your logic is dumb. What about bad quality official stuff and really good quality fanfiction? Fanfiction unofficial and has nothing to do with quality.

>>44767
>what about bad quality official and good quality fanfiction
Nothing. I was not talking about that at all.

>>44773
The distinction between "official work" and fanfiction is hard to see sometimes, especially in a serialized franchise with multiple writers. BUT, usually when it's complete shit, it tends to be fanfiction. A good 50% of all fanfiction is completely terrible, 50% of works by original creators is okay. An average weak movie has nothing on My Immortal.

Fanfiction is a dirty word, just accept it. Whenever a new writer makes a sequel, and people hate it, it gets labeled as fanfiction.

And I don't understand why you're so angry. I didn't call any particular thing you like as bad. Are you angry because EU is no longer canon?

>>44776
They stuffed the movie so choke full of plot ideas, that there was not enough time to explain all of them. If Death Star III was cut from the story, they would have more time.

>>44780
Holy shit, Snoke confirmed for Zouken Matou and Star Wars is a part of the Nasuverse.
Would take care of the Legends vs new EU continuity issues.

>>44780
I keep getting the most retarded fan-theory bullshit recommended to me on Youtube.

No, internet, Rey is not Obi-Wan's long-lost granddaughter because that makes no dramatic sense.

Speculation is fun and all, but for god's sake don't just shove out the first derivative thought balloon that pops into your head. Try to imagine "when this revelation is screamed out by the antagonist over a bottomless pit in the middle of a thunderstorm, will it leave the general audience astonished or utterly fucking baffled?"

//youtube.com/watch?v=hN74bOubUug
Heavy

>>44783
>No, internet, Rey is not Obi-Wan's long-lost granddaughter because that makes no dramatic sense.

You know what makes logical sense, if not dramatic sense? Rey as Quinlan Vos's granddaughter.

>>44794
For full drama, Rey should be another immaculate conception of the Force, making her the true heir to Anakin. Just imagine Kylo's shit fit upon learning that. Or course, Luke would be her mom.

>>44788
Really good editing.

Vader being THE FATHER is a famous retcon, but Alec's performance, the way he said the lines, and his facial expressions made the revelation believable.

Luke found Plagueis's records on creating life and further speculation from Sheev that it could be done via a cloning chamber as a gestation device.

Luke did what he did and willed Rey into being. Or Rey is a descendent of Vader and Dr. Aphra. Another plan he put into motion to carry out his vengeance if he failed. But time went on, the Empire was destroyed and Vader was lost so Aphra moved on with her child who grew and had a child of their own.

I find that very plausible outcome since they have made a big thing of everything that happens in the comics being in canon.

>>44797
On that note, it's interesting that Luke's planet is called Ach-to which contains the Hebrew for brother and the official script states that Luke knows "who" Rey is, which suggests that Rey's identity is something worth knowing rather than a literal everywoman who lucked herself into the powers and position needed to save the galaxy, similar to Finn.

>>44801

I remember something of a story idea kinda like that. Something in the EU possessing one sibling and leading them down the dark path.

>>44801
Snoke confirmed for a miniature shit who fucking loves chocolate.

>>44804
Poor Kylo, Dark Side comes with serious helmet hair.

>>44808
That bit where he took his helmet off and his hair looked so fluffy bothered me way too much.

>>44830
So she gets Chrome Dome?

>>44830
They're flying half a ship.

>>44831
Phasma's suit is prototype actual blaster proof armor. //youtube.com/watch?v=E_Ea28Z7PBU

Takes a bolt to the head knocked unconscious on a Star Destroyer falling into a suns gravity well.

Rey drags them out to a escape shuttle and heads to the nearest planet. And above all HELMET STAYS ON. Because its funnier that way.

>>44830
Could be a case of "it's not canon but there's something there, maybe I'll follow up on it after all".

>>44834
got two more movies. Plenty of time.

>>44834
Yeah could go the Korrasami route, except actually well-done this time. Finn and Poe already showed more chemistry in their first escape scene than Korra and Asami ever had.