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"Obi-Wan's gonna kill you" edition.
No.44571
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
I wouldn’t normally link to this sort of Twitter, but the rampant stupidity of this tweet must be seen to be believed:

https://twitter.com/ReturnOfKings/status/681520510937636864
No.44572
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44573
>>44571
You just signal boosted a shitpost.
No.44573
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44572

Look at who you’re replying to.
No.44574
Anonymous
>>44571
No thanks.
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Anonymous
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>>44571

God dammit, Freehaven.
No.44578
Mister Twister
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Attempt at re-railing:
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No.44579
Anonymous
Replies:>>44581
>>44578
>it's like a breakup
>open wounds
>it's very hard
>the films were my kids


Lucas, bro, you sold the damn thing to Disney. You even sold it for relatively cheap. The interviewer even brings it up.
No.44581
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44599
>>44579
He waned to make sequels, but was conflicted about it. He knew he was quite old. He also knew he hasn't been able to follow up on his old promise of returning to experimental films. He ALSO knew he had to let go and resign from being in charge of SW at some point.

So, he did all three. A part of him regrets not killing off the franchise, another part wishes he would have made the sequels himself, and yet another part is happy his burden has finally been lifted. He is free now, free of Star Wars.
No.44582
Mister Twister
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Also, finally saw the movie in the theater, with these two guys. And my family.
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Mister Twister
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No.44584
Anonymous
>>44583
Oh my god! What's wrong with your face?
No.44585
Anonymous
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>>44583
Where's this from?
No.44586
Anonymous
Good to know I'm not the only one who immediately thought Threepio looked kinda Punished there.
No.44587
T4 was here
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>>44585
Lets ring the new year with more baby fanboy.
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T4 was here
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T4 was here
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Time travle crossover when?!
No.44592
Anonymous
Replies:>>44593
He's my favorite chuuni.
No.44593
T4 was here
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>>44592
>chuuni
So he passed the exam then?


Also imagine Vader having to deal with this shit and not having kill him as an option.

Because for all the shit and lol's we throw at Kylo, dude still stops a laser blast with the force without giving a fuck.
And that deserves some cred atlest.
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T4 was here
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No.44596
T4 was here
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No.44597
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>44598
http://stutterhug.tumblr.com/post/136283401787/jedi-mice-collected-tfa-twitter-sillys

Dat BB-8.
No.44598
T4 was here
>>44597
>http://stutterhug.tumblr.com/post/136283401787/jedi-mice-collected-tfa-twitter-sillys
Cute~

And I forgot this came out too.
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Good points, bad jokes -.-
No.44599
Anonymous
Replies:>>44600
>>44581

Lucas just said that selling SW to Disney was like selling his children to white slavers. Not only the comment is insensitive if not downright offensive, it's painting himself as a victim. He didn't NEED to sell the IP, and nobody put a gun to his head to do so. He did it because he didn't care anymore, and now has the nerve to complain.
No.44600
Mister Twister
>>44599
He was joking, you dumb fuck. He even chuckled after he said that.
No.44602
Anonymous
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>>44593
More like he's got a bad case of chuunibyou.
No.44603
Anonymous
Replies:>>44604
>>44600
Of course he was joking

It's a terrible joke
No.44604
Anonymous
>>44603
That's our George
No.44605
Anonymous
Replies:>>44606
>>44600
So, saying dumb and offensive crap is OK as long as I am joking. Good to know.
No.44606
Anonymous
>>44605
>offensive
Offense is never given, it is taken. If you choose to be offended, that's fine by me.
No.44607
Anonymous
>>44606
>"If I act like an asshole, it's not my fault and I should not face repercussions for it."
No.44608
Anonymous
Replies:>>44609
>>44607
But only if you say it was a joke afterwards.
No.44609
Anonymous
Replies:>>44610
>>44607
>>44608
Both of you are retards. And probably shitposters, but you can never tell.
No.44610
Anonymous
Replies:>>44611
>>44609
Lucas today admitted the comment was innappropiate, mate. No need to defend your king's honor anymore.
No.44611
Anonymous
>>44610
And he didn't have to, but I guess too many people like you screamed OFFENDED! and he had to say something.
No.44612
Anonymous
Replies:>>44614
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Thread is in more need of sick spins.
No.44613
Anonymous
>>44606

Punches are never given, they are taken. If you choose to get punched, that's fine by me.
No.44614
T4 was here
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>>44612
Okay.
No.44617
Anonymous
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For every TR-8R that falls another shall rise.

Every movie Finn will have his ass beat by one that shall continue the legacy.
No.44618
Anonymous
Replies:>>44621
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The Boba Fett of our generation. I hope we get a dozen novels fanwanking how he survived and went on to become a hero.
No.44619
Anonymous
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I love that this movie became meme potential, but in the good way, not in the "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" way.
No.44620
T4 was here
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Well atlest they have a good candidate for a clone template.
No.44621
Anonymous
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>>44618
>The Boba Fett of our generation.

I don't think so. Unlike Fett, the Tonfa dude actually did something cool and badass onscreen.

Pic related is the new Boba Fett.
No.44622
Anonymous
Replies:>>44626
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>>44621

A funny thing since she's mentioned in discussions about being Lawful Evil and maybe doing a "Heel-Face Turn"

She'd lose few levels if applying D&D Rules and her specialization. She could actually go Bounty Hunter.

Also found this pairing humorous.
No.44623
Anonymous
>>44620


Find some of the old Clone Pods. Starts making TR-8R clones. Put them everywhere.
No.44626
Anonymous
Replies:>>44627
>>44622
>>44621
Did Disney have any active role in shaping that perception or did fans just assume that she would be beforehand because of her design? There's three movies to go, I already expected that not all of the new introduced characters would have time to shine.
No.44627
Anonymous
Replies:>>44628
>>44626
She has some merchandise pushing her and apparently she's in the other ones.
No.44628
Anonymous
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>>44627
Yea she's been put out pretty much as one of the "face" as it were.
No.44629
Anonymous
Replies:>>44630
>>44628
D'awww that's adorable.
No.44630
Anonymous
Replies:>>44631
>>44629
So many seem to have that Childlike glee that Mark Hamill does. I can only see this as a good thing going forward.

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No.44631
Anonymous
>>44630
John Boyega is also fucking great. Great as Finn, fun in interviews. His enthusiasm's infectious.
No.44632
Deon
Am I just misremembering I thought Luke's robot hand was so nice that from a glance it appears to be a real hand.
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Anonymous
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Well goddamn.
No.44634
Anonymous
Replies:>>44636
>>44632
It's super robotic for some reason.
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T4 was here
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>>44632
Maybe Kylo cut it off to be more like his grandpa?
>>44621
Yes, hope they something fun with her next movie.

Like Finn is infiltrating some Star Destroyer or something and ducks into the restroom.
Where he runs into a female janitor who goes "YOU!" before pulling a gun on him.
No.44636
Anonymous
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>>44634

It was covered in the synthetic skin and maybe if he's been "off the grid" so to speak he's not had the time to stop and get it taken care of .

Overall it looks just fucked up with the skin being charred or maybe as noted not being properly cared for at a medical center.
No.44637
Anonymous
Replies:>>44639
I can't believe there was no Wilhelm scream anywhere in the film.
No.44638
T4 was here
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No.44639
Anonymous
Replies:>>44645
>>44637
There was in the beginning when Finn and Poe were making their big escape.
No.44640
Anonymous
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Too bad he's not facing the right way.
No.44641
Anonymous
Replies:>>44642
>>44638
Well its not Rey according to the rest of the fanbase.
No.44642
Anonymous
>>44641
Huh? Most people ship her with Finn, Poe, or Kylo, and it's mentioned in the novels she thinks Poe's hot stuff. There are people who insist she's a lesbian or bi, but not as much as I thought.
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Mister Twister
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http://paperbeatsscissors.tumblr.com/post/135655863113/a-small-star-war-about-getting-older
No.44645
Anonymous
Replies:>>44646
>>44639
Must have been quiet or really well-hidden, because none of my friends noticed it either.
No.44646
Anonymous
Replies:>>44647
>>44645
//youtube.com/watch?v=m7eCGbt1XTUyoutube thumb
This bit. Not very loud in the actual scene, hence why it's easy to miss.
No.44647
Anonymous
>>44646
They've used it in the commercials a couple of times.

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Anonymous
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I'm so glad I'm tapping out of this franchise I tell ya what. We had a good run, Star Wars. I think I'll go re-read Dark Empire.
No.44649
Anonymous
>>44648
I like Kylo Ren but I hate how his fans are trying to turn him into the next Loki. Dude did some shitty things, but the movie didn't have the time or interest to flesh the more sympathetic side of him in detail, so instead he just looks like a self-absorbed whiner.
No.44650
Mister Twister
>>44648
Are you... unable to enjoy things because of other fans?

Because if yes, then I got an image for you.
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Anonymous
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>>44648
Just learn to stay off of Tumblr ya turd.
No.44652
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No.44654
Anonymous
Replies:>>44656
>>44652
Missing that red arm.
No.44656
Anonymous
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>>44654
Right.
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Anonymous
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>>44656

>C-3PO was secretly replaced with C-3PX
No.44659
Snes !v68zTeBMI.
>>44656
Why did he have that arm, anyways? I mean, it was funny for a gag ("You probably didn't recognize me!"), but then he lost it by the end of the movie. I kind of assumed that that was just going to be the new look for him.
No.44661
Alpharius
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>>44659
Merchandising!
No.44662
Anonymous
Replies:>>44663
>>44659
The in-universe explanation will be told in one of those new SW comics Marvel is publishing.

As for the real "why", Abrams said that he wanted to show the passage of time for all the characters, so the red arm was a reminder that even Threepio has been doing stuff since the last time we saw him.
No.44663
Anonymous
Replies:>>44665
>>44662

the real "why" is what >>44661 said. You have the C-3PO figures, but now buy the C-3PO figures with RED ARMS!

I doubt JJ even thought about "showing the passage of time" with regards to the movie, at any rate he certainly didn't do that with R2 who had about as much screentime as 3PO and had more of an impact on the story.
No.44664
Anonymous
Reminder that "classic" C-3PO had a silver shin.
No.44665
Anonymous
>>44663
Speaking about plot purposes, bro. And that's what JJ said, dont shoot the messenger.

R2 did show the passage of time, the guy literally was left in a corner collecting dust.
No.44669
Mister Twister
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So I am following a comedian who is obsessed with Kylo Ren and BB8.

Every day I check her Tümbler to see what else she reblogged/uploaded.

And then I see this.
No.44670
Anonymous
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>>44669
Link? Kylo Ren is pretty based as far as comedy fodder goes, but I hope she's not into him in THAT way. Dude is turning into the new Loki despite being way uglier.
No.44671
Mister Twister
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>>44670
She likes him because he's a screwup, not because he's "a bad boy".

http://spiderjewel.tumblr.com/post/136665897703/is-it-just-me-or-rey-looks-like-padme-during
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Mister Twister
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Anonymous
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>>44671
>Mozenrath
Well that's not a name I haven't seen in a while. At least he can get away with that look because he's a cartoon character.
No.44677
Anonymous
>>44675

The use of Robot Chicken's voice actors just reminds me how much worse it is in comparison... Ah well, at least the Palpatine bits were good.
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Anonymous
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Have these two actually spoken in canon before?
No.44682
Alpharius
>>44675
It's fucking Teen Titans GO! all over again.

>>44676
Also this.
No.44683
Anonymous
>>44676
Its literally robot chicken with horrible visuals.
No.44684
Deon
They teach Kylo Ren prequel style floppy spiny jumpy light saber combat so that it will be all terribly symbolic when he still loses to practical original trilogy style combat.
No.44685
Anonymous
>>44684
That kinda already happened this movie. You see him swinging his sword in circles while his opponents go for more pragmatic strikes.
No.44686
Anonymous
Perhaps Snoke purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.
No.44687
T4 was here
>>44679
I think he told her about Finn pussying out at the start of the movie.
But thats why its a crack ship.
No.44688
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44689
>>44684
You don't know they used professional sword fighters as consultants for the prequels? Or you don't think they were professional enough?
No.44689
Anonymous
Replies:>>44690
>>44688
Not him, but in the prequels the swordmaster is Nick Gillard, a stunt coordinator who kinda knows how to handle a sword, which is why everything is so flashy and with all sorts of cool looking acrobatics and nonsensical flips and kicks. In contrast, the OT had Bob Anderson as the swordmaster, an actual olympic fencer.
No.44690
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44691
>>44689
Fencer, true. But the way lightsabers are used is very far away from that. Japanese swords ≠ european rapiers.
No.44691
Anonymous
Replies:>>44693
>>44690
And how japanese swords are used isn't exactly doing backflips and spinning your weapon like it was a glowstick in a rave party. I am not sure what the arguement is here, the fact that the lightsaber fighting in the prequels is unrealistic and overdone IS the point, it's supposed to show that properly trained Jedis in their prime are crazy superhuman sonofbitches. I don't particulary like how the result looked onscreen, but I do understand the logic behind it.
No.44693
Mister Twister
>>44691
I am not sure there was an argument, I was just replying to people.
No.44695
Anonymous
So, apparently Disney Infinity went and flubbed things by spoiling Kylo and Rey are cousins.
No.44696
Mister Twister
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>>44695
>spoiling
No.44697
Anonymous
>>44695
Eh, listening to it, it didn't really spoil that. It's an obvious plot twist, but he's not saying cousin in the game.
No.44698
Anonymous
>>44695
Nope, he says "curses". It's a mishearing.
No.44699
Alpharius
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>>44695
That is not gonna stop me from still shipping Kylo/Rey. In fact I almost bet that the aditional 'forbiddeness' of the ship will boost the amount of fan art, I hope.
No.44701
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44719
>>44699
He threw her against a tree. If the aim was slightly off, he could have killed her.
No.44703
Anonymous
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>>44699
What's the appeal of that ship beyond the usual Twilight fans, self-inserters, or taboo fetishizers? I understand liking it as a one-sided thing because the novel strongly implies what was only slightly hinted at in the movie. Hell, I'm kind of one myself. But at no point does Rey seem like she'd ever reciprocate, especially not not after everything Kylo pulled already.
No.44704
Anonymous
Replies:>>44711
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Damnit, only on Tumblr will followers get so mortally offended by you reblogging comics making fun of a character that they'll fill your inbox with messages calling you a a racist who somehow supports their actions, just because you'd rather laugh at them than post about how mad they make you.
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No.44710
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://oneperfectshotdb.com/news/must-watch-star-wars-without-star-wars-a-new-hope-recut/

Neat.
No.44711
Anonymous
>>44704
>post about how mad they make you
Much like you and Tumblr?
No.44712
Anonymous
Replies:>>44713
>>44703
Usually in shipping, especially when it's with the bad boy, the girl's feelings don't matter, as she's instead replaced with a self-insert of the author or artist and their desires.
No.44713
Anonymous
Replies:>>44719
>>44712
I know that already, I mean what's the ship's appeal if you're not one of the types I listed?
No.44715
Mister Twister
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More of the stuff from Tümbler.
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Mister Twister
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Anonymous
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Wow they weren't kidding about Snape being in the movie.
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Mister Twister
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Alpharius
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>>44701
Yes, and your point?

>>44703
>>44713
Reciprocation CANONICALLY is of little to no importance to shippers. It's hot and the chemistry is hot to imagine. One sided relationships can be fun in there own way. A really good reason, which is probably why I'm still shipping Kylo/Rey, even though I don't actually foresee it becoming legit, is I am a still recovering zutaran. The appeal is if you are into rough sex, bondage, rape, mind control, comfort sex, domination, angst and a laundry list more of tags that fanfiction love to use for smut.
No.44720
Anonymous
>>44719
So fapbait reasons then? Fair enough.
No.44721
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44722
>>44719
Well, I am not giving those people any respect. You can, if you want.
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Anonymous
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>>44721
And I don't respect you either!
No.44723
Anonymous
Replies:>>44724
Guys, SHUT UP.
No.44724
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44726
>>44723
NOOOOOOOO!
No.44726
Anonymous
>>44724
This.
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Anonymous
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I think what annoys me the most is, I joked about the EU along with everyone else. Like anything that had gotten that big, it had some screwball and downright legendarily bad stories in it. When they announced everything became un-canon, all I could think was "Good! Finally we can get rid of stories like 'Han Solo's kid going Sith' and Chewbacca needlessly dying in an sad attempt to raise the stakes." But it also had a lot of great stories in it. And I thought the new movie would take the good parts of the EU and leave behind the bad. Instead it feels like we took the bad and left the good. And now people still make fun of the EU because it's an ingrained practice at this point, its reputation is tarnished beyond repair, but I can't help but wistfully remember the universe that gave me the Rogue Squadron series, Thrawn and Mara Jade, and even the misadventures of Tag & Bink.

I try to get over it but my thoughts keep going back to it, and I think "I shouldn't have said all those terrible things about the EU."
No.44729
Mister Twister
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No.44732
Anonymous
Replies:>>44734
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>>44719
>tfw you ship Kylo/Poe for that same reason
oh no
No.44733
Anonymous
>>44728
>But it also had a lot of great stories in it

It still has. Those books, comics and such, they still do exist. Ninjas hired by Disney did not break into your home at night and emptied your shelved off EU material.

I am frankly at loss at the idea of apparently being so dependant of canonicity, of endorsement and approval by either Lucas or the Disney bunch, because who gives a damn? Thrawn remains one cool badass mofo, canon be damned. Nothing changes that.
No.44734
Mister Twister
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>>44732
No.44735
Anonymous
>>44734

We've still got two movies.
No.44736
Anonymous
Replies:>>44755
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Mazoke = best ship, you punks have no idea.
No.44738
Anonymous
Replies:>>44739
>>44734
I like the idea of Finn having canon childlike crushes on both Finn and Rey but them not reciprocating. Why can't more people get one-sided pairings in general? They can be plenty cute/interesting in their own way.
No.44739
Mister Twister
>>44738
>Finn/Finn
I knew hardcore shippers were crazy, but...... this is a whole new level.
No.44740
Anonymous
>>44739

Heh Twin Finns.
No.44741
Anonymous
>>44740

Finn is actually a small test batch clone project. Finds the other surviving clone.

>Myownclone!.jpg
No.44742
Mister Twister
So, today I learned of the Thrawn Trilogy, and that it was apparently approved by good ol' Georgie.

Will read someday.
No.44743
Anonymous
>>44739
>>44740
Damnit, meant Finn crushing on Poe.
No.44744
Anonymous
Replies:>>44745
>>44739
Shipping the best character with the best character. Everybody wins.
No.44745
Anonymous
Replies:>>44746
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>>44744
Who, BB-8 x BB-8?
No.44746
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44747
>>44715
>>44745


Also, now I know what I will be doing with my life when I am not busy working or having other types of fun. I will be editing the Thrawn Trilogy to make if fit with the current SW canon (sans TFA).
No.44747
Anonymous
Replies:>>44748
>>44746
They'd worked that out at one point and even had Zahn write the novel of Jorus C'Baoth's big trip to outside the galaxy once the prequels were done.
No.44748
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44754
>>44747
Enlighten me please. I only learned of the trilogy yesterday, and aside from it
- being very good
- being approved and liked by good ol' Georgie at the time
- contradicting the current canon in some places
I know nothing about it.
No.44749
Anonymous
Replies:>>44750
Isn't it they are mostly picking and choosing things from the EU to add when and where they feel it fits and works with their current running canon?
No.44750
Mister Twister
>>44749
Yes. That's exactly what they are doing. That is how Mandalore ended up in The Clone Wars, and how a mon-calamari invented the B-wing in Rebels.
No.44751
Anonymous
>>44750
At that time the EU was still canon though, wasn't it?
No.44752
Mister Twister
>>44751
First and foremost, remember that a lot of EU was completely retarded and out of character and shit. Not everything there was good, plus a lot of inconsistencies and contradictions.

Second, the system worked like this: movies are A-canon, Thrawn is B-canon, cartoon and comic spinoffs are C-canon, so forth. Everything is canon until the movies contradict. 99% of EU was temporarily supported fanfiction. During TCW, the team would pick and choose the best EU plot ideas and polish, improve, and incorporate into the show.

NOW, any new "officially cannon" works can steal ideas from the EU and make it canon again.

A very few select things from the EU, like KOTOR, are kinda canon, until Lucasfilm announces they're not.
No.44753
Anonymous
I wonder if anything from Shadows of the Empire is going to show up. The movie was this close to being called Shadow of the Empire without the "s".
No.44754
Anonymous
>>44748
It's where Mara Jade comes from.
No.44755
Anonymous
>>44750
Except for the bit where they butchered Mandalore for TCW. That's the thing that really irks me, when they take something good and twist it up into crap and that crap holds more weight than the good stuff.
>>44736
Sweet fuck, the two characters I hate most...
No.44756
Anonymous
>>44751
> the EU was still canon

Yes and no. The official policy was that the only real solid "this actually happened" canon was the movies, everything else according to Lucasfilm was "sure, why not, as long as it doesn't contradict the movies". If you look into it, before the Disney acquisition, there was five levels of canon material.
No.44757
Anonymous
Replies:>>44760
>>44755
Mandalore was butchered long before TCW touched it. If anything they helped redeem it from the blatant fan fiction it had become.
No.44758
Mister Twister
>>44755
They took something alright, and twisted it into awesome. Different ≠ bad.
No.44759
Anonymous
Replies:>>44760
They took a warrior people and turned them into pacifists.
That is the exact opposite of awesome.
No.44760
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44762
>>44759
I think you missed the point of >>44757
No.44762
Anonymous
Replies:>>44765
>>44760
Considering how much of the exact same treatment the Jedi had, I'm not considering the Mandolorians to have been that badly tarnished by their time in the books.
Star Wars has always been blatant fan fiction.
No.44763
T4 was here
Atlest these cool ass mofos survied the end of EU.
//youtube.com/watch?v=Hxr5XlXekBMyoutube thumb
G'night!
No.44765
Mister Twister
>>44762
The only real thing that separates "fanfiction" from "sequel written by a different person" is the level of quality.

Being officially recognized doesn't hurt either.
No.44767
Anonymous
Replies:>>44768
>>44765
Your logic is dumb. What about bad quality official stuff and really good quality fanfiction? Fanfiction unofficial and has nothing to do with quality.
No.44768
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44773
>>44767
>what about bad quality official and good quality fanfiction
Nothing. I was not talking about that at all.
No.44773
Alpharius
Replies:>>44774
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>>44765
>>44768
>The only real thing that separates "fanfiction" from "sequel written by a different person" is the level of quality.
>What about bad quality official stuff and really good quality fanfiction?
But you were talking about that! Your dichotomy between "fanfiction" and "sequel written by a different person", being defined by quality is silly as there exist both quality fanfiction AND bad official stuff. By saying that quality is the defining trait between 'fanfic' and 'official' makes 'good quality fanfiction' into not fanfiction (even though by definition of it being FICTION MADE BY FANS) and 'bad quality official' into fanfiction. Here you are dictating what is and is not fanfiction not if it is official or made by a fan, but by the quality of it, which quality is subjective.

In summation; learn how to english language or logic. Or stop using the term 'fanfiction' to describe stuff that you don't like, please.
No.44774
Mister Twister
>>44773
The distinction between "official work" and fanfiction is hard to see sometimes, especially in a serialized franchise with multiple writers. BUT, usually when it's complete shit, it tends to be fanfiction. A good 50% of all fanfiction is completely terrible, 50% of works by original creators is okay. An average weak movie has nothing on My Immortal.

Fanfiction is a dirty word, just accept it. Whenever a new writer makes a sequel, and people hate it, it gets labeled as fanfiction.

And I don't understand why you're so angry. I didn't call any particular thing you like as bad. Are you angry because EU is no longer canon?
No.44776
Anonymous
Replies:>>44779
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So watching the movie a second time and finding that it still didn't solve my problem, does anyone think they kind of dropped the ball on making a case for Kylo Ren's moral ambiguity? Granted it's implied he's already pretty far gone, and I still think he's a solid character because of his immaturity alone, but a lot of his talk about feeling the pull of the light side and having a spark of good in him that he's tried to extinguish, or the idea that he was once a heroic figure who was seduced to the dark side, rang kinda hollow, even before he gutted Han. Suffered from a lot of classic telling without showing like the prequel trilogy did.

Maybe the Han Solo side story movie will cover a bit of that. Hopefully not though since it would be a huge copout.
No.44779
Mister Twister
>>44776
They stuffed the movie so choke full of plot ideas, that there was not enough time to explain all of them. If Death Star III was cut from the story, they would have more time.
No.44780
Mister Twister
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HOLY FUCKING YOUTUBE
No.44781
Anonymous
>>44780
Holy shit, Snoke confirmed for Zouken Matou and Star Wars is a part of the Nasuverse.
Would take care of the Legends vs new EU continuity issues.
No.44783
rasputin_zero
Replies:>>44794
>>44780
I keep getting the most retarded fan-theory bullshit recommended to me on Youtube.

No, internet, Rey is not Obi-Wan's long-lost granddaughter because that makes no dramatic sense.

Speculation is fun and all, but for god's sake don't just shove out the first derivative thought balloon that pops into your head. Try to imagine "when this revelation is screamed out by the antagonist over a bottomless pit in the middle of a thunderstorm, will it leave the general audience astonished or utterly fucking baffled?"
No.44784
Anonymous
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>>44780
Is it stupid to get annoyed at fanart prettying Kylo Ren up and giving him a smaller nose and such? He's supposed to be all weird and ugly and goofy and generally awkward looking under that mask and that's exactly a big part of what makes him so great, damnit.
No.44794
Anonymous
Replies:>>44795
>>44783
>No, internet, Rey is not Obi-Wan's long-lost granddaughter because that makes no dramatic sense.

You know what makes logical sense, if not dramatic sense? Rey as Quinlan Vos's granddaughter.
No.44795
Anonymous
>>44794
For full drama, Rey should be another immaculate conception of the Force, making her the true heir to Anakin. Just imagine Kylo's shit fit upon learning that. Or course, Luke would be her mom.
No.44796
Mister Twister
>>44788
Really good editing.

Vader being THE FATHER is a famous retcon, but Alec's performance, the way he said the lines, and his facial expressions made the revelation believable.
No.44797
Anonymous
Luke found Plagueis's records on creating life and further speculation from Sheev that it could be done via a cloning chamber as a gestation device.

Luke did what he did and willed Rey into being. Or Rey is a descendent of Vader and Dr. Aphra. Another plan he put into motion to carry out his vengeance if he failed. But time went on, the Empire was destroyed and Vader was lost so Aphra moved on with her child who grew and had a child of their own.

I find that very plausible outcome since they have made a big thing of everything that happens in the comics being in canon.
No.44798
Anonymous
>>44797
On that note, it's interesting that Luke's planet is called Ach-to which contains the Hebrew for brother and the official script states that Luke knows "who" Rey is, which suggests that Rey's identity is something worth knowing rather than a literal everywoman who lucked herself into the powers and position needed to save the galaxy, similar to Finn.
No.44800
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44801
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>>44797
>misread as Dr. Alphys
:|

Also, this.
No.44801
Anonymous
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>>44800
Alphys did create her share of fuckups that ultimately paved the way for the main plot. Speaking of which, people are really jumping on the Undertale x Star Wars parallels here.
No.44802
Anonymous
>>44801

I remember something of a story idea kinda like that. Something in the EU possessing one sibling and leading them down the dark path.
No.44803
Anonymous
>>44801
Snoke confirmed for a miniature shit who fucking loves chocolate.
No.44804
Alpharius
Replies:>>44808
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No.44808
Anonymous
Replies:>>44809
>>44804
Poor Kylo, Dark Side comes with serious helmet hair.
No.44809
Anonymous
Replies:>>44810
>>44808
That bit where he took his helmet off and his hair looked so fluffy bothered me way too much.
No.44810
Anonymous
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>>44809
Secret Death Eater technique.
No.44821
Mister Twister
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http://spiderjewel.tumblr.com/post/137270132428/paulfajardo-minajvtrois-inspired-by
No.44830
Jumpman
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https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/687503266121297924
No.44831
Anonymous
Replies:>>44833
>>44830
So she gets Chrome Dome?
No.44832
Mister Twister
>>44830
They're flying half a ship.
No.44833
Anonymous
>>44831
Phasma's suit is prototype actual blaster proof armor. //youtube.com/watch?v=E_Ea28Z7PBUyoutube thumb

Takes a bolt to the head knocked unconscious on a Star Destroyer falling into a suns gravity well.

Rey drags them out to a escape shuttle and heads to the nearest planet. And above all HELMET STAYS ON. Because its funnier that way.
No.44834
Anonymous
>>44830
Could be a case of "it's not canon but there's something there, maybe I'll follow up on it after all".
No.44835
Anonymous
>>44834
got two more movies. Plenty of time.
No.44836
Anonymous
Replies:>>44837
>>44834
Yeah could go the Korrasami route, except actually well-done this time. Finn and Poe already showed more chemistry in their first escape scene than Korra and Asami ever had.
No.44837
Anonymous
>>44836
That'll be for Rey and Phasma
No.44838
Anonymous
Replies:>>44857
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>>44830
No.44853
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://crockpotcauldron.tumblr.com/post/137353166752/

Well there’s a headcanon I’m gonna accept.
No.44857
T4 was here
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>>44838
Ahhh, I love that clip...
Also this.
No.44858
T4 was here
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>>44857
No.44859
T4 was here
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>>44858
Remind me to post this in /pco/ request thread later.
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T4 was here
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No.44861
T4 was here
http://freakxwannaxbe.tumblr.com/post/137313289389/that-scene-in-mulan-where-all-the-ancestors-are
No.44864
Anonymous
Replies:>>44865
You know, something occured to me.

Shouldn't Leia be very, VERY angry at Luke?

I mean, she and Han left their son in the hads of his uncle, it was in part his responsability that Kyle fell to the dark side.
No.44865
Anonymous
Replies:>>44869
>>44864
There's a ton of interesting stuff in the novels including tihs bit. She knows it's ultimately Snoke's fault, and blames herself the most for being impulsive in deciding to have him shipped off to Luke. Also the reason her and Han's marriage fell apart was because they both each blamed themselves for what happened. A lot of it I wish made it into the final film. Just a matter of a single extra line or so and so much would be better.
No.44867
Anonymous
Replies:>>44868
>>44866
When does Rebels take place? I know it's between Episodes 3 and 4, but which one is it closer to in timeframe?
No.44868
Anonymous
>>44867
Its Fifteen years after so closer to Episode 4
No.44869
Anonymous
Replies:>>44870
>>44865
Man, people have been referencing the books a lot, but I've never gotten any decent answers to which novels they refer to.
No.44870
Anonymous
>>44869
Only novels that matter anymore when it comes to canon are Tarkin and the official The Force Awakens novelization of the film.
No.44871
Mister Twister
Replies:>>44874
>>44870
I never understood the point of novelizations. Isn't it capitulating and saying "you're right, books are the superior medium".
No.44872
Anonymous
>>44870
Also all the comics. Lando's being prior to Empire and the others taking place being Empire and Jedi I believe.
No.44873
Anonymous
Replies:>>44875
>>44870
The thing that irritates me is the fact people keep talking about these characters as if they already existed in the books, but I can't dig anything up about that.
No.44874
Anonymous
Replies:>>44877
>>44871
Not really that books are the superior medium so much as different in a way that provides certain advantages, such as additional insight on characters whose thoughts we couldn't see or additional backstory which gets cut for reasons like pacing, them coming up with a better alternative, or just being plain boring to people who aren't huge lore nerds.
No.44875
Anonymous
>>44873
What do you mean? Snoke and Kylo Ren are movie original characters and Tarkin was from A New Hope.
No.44877
Anonymous
>>44874
This. For example, the TFA novelization gives further insight on Kylo Ren's less than impressive performance while fighting Finn and Rey, or why Finn did defect from the First Order.
No.44878
T4 was here
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...
Well thats just silly.
No.44879
Anonymous
Replies:>>44880
>>44878
Kinky.
No.44880
rasputin_zero
>>44879
Kinky, and also instantly fatal.

I like how the Darths and Droids webcomic treats lightsabers as just as likely to maim the player as the enemy they're fighting.
No.44882
Anonymous
>>44880
Yea that is why it takes extensive training. Force Sensitivity is a bonus since it adds heighten awareness of something with no weight or heat.
No.44883
Anonymous
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Awww good metal mom.
No.44884
T4 was here
>>44880
Well thats what happens when you roll a one.

Like that time I broke the silver halberd I needed to fight ghost the first time I swing it...
Good thing the DM let me pick up the blade and use it as an handaxe.
No.44885
Anonymous
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>>44878
Holy shit that's dumb.
No.44891
Anonymous
Replies:>>44900
https://vine.co/v/iOwibObiMaF
BURN
No.44900
Anonymous
Replies:>>44903
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>>44891
This was the best part of that skit.
No.44903
rasputin_zero
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>>44900
The whole thing was magical from beginning to end, but pic related was my favourite part.
No.44906
Anonymous
It's weird, coming out of the theater my favorite characters were definitely Finn and Rey and I hated Kylo for being such an obnoxious twat, but now a month he's my favorite by far. All the heroes are solid and their acting was spot on, but they're too archetypical to really linger in the mind, whereas I really want to know what's this dude's long game and what exactly the fuck happened to him as a kid.
No.44908
Anonymous
>>44906
Did he enter his Dark Side cave and everything went sideways possibly?
No.44909
Anonymous
>>44906
>It's weird, coming out of the theater my favorite characters were definitely Finn and Rey and I hated Kylo for being such an obnoxious twat, but now a month he's my favorite by far. All the heroes are solid and their acting was spot on, but they're too archetypical to really linger in the mind, whereas I really want to know what's this dude's long game and what exactly the fuck happened to him as a kid.

The thing I like about Kylo is the same thing most people give him shit about--his silly temper tantrums and tryhard attitude are WONDERFUL to see in a villain, especially in a setting like Star Wars where it's explicitly stated that unchecked anger leads to the dark side--this is exactly the side effect we SHOULD be seeing more often in Sith Lords.
No.44913
Anonymous
Replies:>>44914
>>44909
Making stuff more complicated is apparently there's a lot of cut scenes and introspection in the novelization that indicate Kylo Ren is a more of a sensitive and empathetic guy than the movie made him out to be. Supposedly some of it was actually filmed but left out of the final cut, either because it was bad for pacing or they changed their minds later on and wanted to take the character in a different direction.
No.44914
Anonymous
>>44913
>they changed their minds later on and wanted to take the character in a different direction
I mean, the film is the flagship version, you would hope it's this
No.44920
Anonymous
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>>44909
>his silly temper tantrums and tryhard attitude are WONDERFUL to see in a villain, especially in a setting like Star Wars

Obviously it's all an opinion but that's like saying it'd be wonderful for a Lord of the Rings sequel to feature an edgy ugly cunt villain wearing a SAURON WAS RIGHT shirt. Bonus points if they're Samwise's son. In my opinion it's a terrible fit for a series that has always had a more classical good vs. evil architecture to its story.
No.44921
Deon
>>44920
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
No.44922
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44920

>it's a terrible fit for a series that has always had a more classical good vs. evil architecture to its story

You say that as if the series can't evolve and try new ways of telling a story. Why would you want it to be the same exact thing as the Original Trilogy?
No.44923
Jumpman
Replies:>>44926
>“I’ve spoken with Disney people, and they were completely blindsided by the reaction to the new Star Wars characters,” Marcotte went on to say. “They put a huge investment into marketing and merchandizing the Kylo Ren character. They presumed he would be the big breakout role from the film. They were completely surprised when it was Rey everyone identified with and wanted to see more of. Now they’re stuck with vast amounts of Kylo Ren product that is not moving, and a tidal wave of complaints about a lack of Rey items.”

http://sweatpantsandcoffee.com/what-we-love/sweatpants-pop-culture/rey/
No.44924
Anonymous
I really, REALLY doubt the trilogy is going to end with Kylo still a villain.
No.44925
Anonymous
>>44924
It'd be fucking weird to walk back a guy who committed a Patricide of Han Fucking Solo, audiences don't want that.

Plus I don't need another redeemed Sith Lord.
No.44926
Anonymous
Replies:>>44948
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>>44923
If Tumblr and SNL are any indication he's still pretty damn popular, just not for the reasons they were probably hoping.
No.44928
Anonymous
>>44924
>>44925
Personally I feel like him surviving to rejoin the side of good or at least stop being a villain, and having to live with the guilt of his actions, would actually be the harsher punishment than him staying evil and then dying, unless he literally becomes Sith Satan.
No.44929
Anonymous
>>44928
Mostly everyone I've seen wants him redeemed not for his own sake (because fuck that guy) but because Leia deserves to be happy.
No.44933
Mister Twister
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No.44938
Mister Twister
http://spiderjewel.tumblr.com/post/137672235258/ok-heres-my-star-wars-cover
I love that woman.
No.44945
Anonymous
>>44925
>Plus I don't need another redeemed Sith Lord.


Well, we didn't need another power trio, or another cute droid, or another death star, or another sand planet, or another expository wrinkly midget alien, or another badass cool villain henchperson who doesn't actually do anything badass or cool, and yet here we are!
No.44948
Anonymous
Replies:>>44949
>>44926
They cast a guy whose specialty is in playing cringy loser manchildren and he's no different here (not that he did a bad job at acting here or anything). I don't know why they'd expect anything otherwise, unless there was bad communication between merchandising and the people actually making the movie.
No.44949
Anonymous
>>44948
The mechadishing people probaby saw a pic of Kylo with the helmet and were all YAY NEW DARTH VADER and didn't bother to ask about the character.
No.44950
Anonymous
Replies:>>44952
>>44928

Personally I feel like having him shoved down a garbage chute so he can join Captain Phasma with the rest of the trash, and trying again for some actual villains in the next movie.
No.44952
rasputin_zero
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>>44950
Sez you. I'm looking forward to seeing what Space Zuko gets up to in the next movie.

Though you can take heart that Benicio del Toro is mooted to play a sizeable baddie in Ep VIII.
No.44953
Anonymous
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>>44952
100% canon
No.44954
Anonymous
>>44953
95% canon, because killing the men who work for him is the one line they've shown he isn't willing to cross yet.
No.44956
Anonymous
>>44952

>Space Zuko

Heh, maybe next film his Uncle will follow him around making him second guess his mission to hunt down the next of the Jedi.

Speaking of Rey

http://www.hitfix.com/harpy/why-on-earth-did-star-wars-insiders-think-kids-would-relate-to-kylo-ren-over-rey

I can never get a grip on this line of thinking. Its been around for a while and I still don't get it.
No.44957
Anonymous
>>44956
Good article but then they had to put that huge "IS REY A MARY SUE?!" video at the bottom and my mind just fizzled (protip: she's not, but I'm still tired of hearing the arguments either pro OR anti).
Seriously though did they not talk to the film crew at all? Inexplicable teen fangirl following aside, all the fans I've seen of Kylo Ren (and I guess I'd include myself among them) are grown ass adults. He's not the kind of character who appeals to children, Rey is, and if they did I would be very worried about their mental health.
No.44958
Anonymous
Replies:>>44964
>>44956
I'm guessing the marketing thought Kylo was going to be another Darth Maul and didn't expect him to have actual characterization.
No.44959
Anonymous
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>>44952
>mfw Matt is Kylo Ren's Blue Spirit
No.44960
Anonymous
Replies:>>44962
Rey is not a Mary Sue.

With that said, the movie does not do a good job at explaining why she is so hypercompetent, which I can see why would raise some eyebrows.

Like, in ANH at least there is a bit of dialogue that establishes that he has experience piloting a starship, and the deleted-but-not-anymore scene with Biggs establishes that he is a good pilot before getting in his X-Wing. Lil' Anakin in Phantom Menace had a ton of experience being a racing pilot, and yet once he gets in a starfighter he more or less lucked his way to sucess and wasn't entirely sure of what he was doing (all while being assisted by R2). In Force Awakens, there is nothing that explains me why Rey (a poor girl living in squalor, barely making ends meet) could hop into the Falcon and instantly know how to fly it like the best.

Some would say that SW is not serious business and such things don't matter, and I say yes, internal logic and consistency DO matter.
No.44962
Anonymous
>>44960
This. There ARE perfectly plausible and justifiable reasons for Rey's competency in everything, and ones which one could deduce given enough time to linger on it. However the movie does a poor job of conveying that to the viewer, which I consider a fault of the narrative in general rather than Rey specifically.
No.44963
Anonymous
Yea more lines that are simply rehashes simlar to Luke's T-16 line would have been fine. "Super Star Destroyer graveyard is a perfect place to practice flying." Spent too much time playing with the secret daddy bit.
No.44964
rasputin_zero
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>>44956
Out of curiosity, how much difficulty have posters here had in tracking down Rey toys? Not necessarily to purchase, just as a "ground-level market research for a lark" thought experiment?

Anecdotally (bearing in mind I live in Southeast London) my experience has been that the flagship Disney stores would stock Rey figures and Rey costumes alongside the other characters but local supermarkets sell little besides acres upon acres of Kylo Rens (with the occasional Finn and Phasma to break the monotony). The Disney store in Stratford has taken a while to stock Reys in anything approaching equivalent numbers to her co-stars, but to their credit she's caught up and is now displayed prominently. As far as I can tell, though, Woolwich's super-sized Tesco has never stocked a single Rey figure, and it wasn't like they were skimping on the Star Wars merch, they had multiple dedicated aisle-ends full of toys. Now their Star Wars toys are on post-Xmas clearance and it's wall-to-wall Kylo Ren landfill.

I've seen Rey figures online and enough fedora-wearing mouth-breathing #HeresReyYouDamnFeminazis pics to know that the toys are out there, it's just that nobody stocks the buggers. They sell out day one, they don't get restocked days two-fifteen, and in the meantime the lorries are reversing with nothing but Kylo Ren Kylo Ren Kylo Ren piling out the back. She's the main character, it's crazy that she's so hard to find.

>>44958
I'd dispute that the fans haven't warned to him, there's more than enough art online to show that he's struck a chord with many fans, it's just that they fell in love with the ranty wannabe emo side of him that just needs a teenage fangirl's tender affection and a hard motherly punch in the face, rather than the Cooldude McBadass the toymakers expected him to be.
No.44965
Anonymous
>>44964

I do wonder why. It always seems that female figures are always short in a case.

Say case of Black series It'll break down to 1-2 Rey 1-2 Phasma 5-4 Finn and 5-4 Kylo and it always rolls out that way when you have females in a case.
No.44966
Anonymous
Replies:>>44967
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>>44925
Well, if the novelization is any indication, the intent behind his character was supposed to be not so much "redeemed Sith Lord" and more that "groomed to be evil but too much of a natural softie to commit", kind of the reverse of Anakin who wanted to be a noble Jedi but let his id control him too much. Granted that aspect of Kylo Ren didn't come across very well during the movie, and it's possible they dropped it altogether to make him a more straightforward kook, but you get a lot of words like "sensitive" and "compassionate" and Snoke basically calls him too much of a pussy to be a good Sith.

>>44964
That and he's just a lot of fun to rib on in a sort of affectionate way. Too lame to be the cool badass kids look up to and merchandisers wanted him to be, but still just competent and scary enough to be taken more seriously than General Grievous.
No.44967
Anonymous
Replies:>>44968
>>44966
Have you read the novelization?

If so, I am curious, does it elaborate on when did Kylo's obsession with his gramps the big Sith Lord originate? Did Snoke instil it on him, or was something that he already have?
No.44968
Anonymous
>>44967
Haven't read the whole thing for myself but people have been posting large passages of it all over the Internet. Obviously there's going to be huge spoilers for anyone who's somehow not seen the movie yet and still cares about watching it for themselves.


“[Snoke] knew our child would be strong with the Force. That he was born with equal potential for good or evil.”

“You knew this from the beginning? Why didn’t you tell me?”

She sighed. “Many reasons. I was hoping that I was wrong, that it wasn’t true. I hoped I could sway him, turn him away from the dark side, without having to involve you.” A small smile appeared. “You had— you have— wonderful qualities, Han, but patience and understanding were never among them. I was afraid that your reactions would only drive him farther to the dark side. I thought I could shield him from Snoke’s influence and you from what was happening.”

Her voice dropped. “It’s clear now that I was wrong. Whether your involvement would have made a difference, we’ll never know.”

He had trouble believing what he was hearing. “So Snoke was watching our son.”

“Always,” she told him. “From the shadows, in the beginning, even before I realized what was happening, he was manipulating everything, pulling our son toward the dark side. But nothing’s impossible, Han. Not even now, at this late time. I have this feeling that if anyone can save him— it’s you.”


Not much on what he was like pre-Snoke, just that his dad hadn't seen him since he was a teenager which is probably when he officially made his turn. Another interesting point is it shows him explicitly more remorseful over the big murder and falling to the ground feeling weak afterwards, which I don't think happened in the movie at all.
No.44977
Mister Twister
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http://spiderjewel.tumblr.com/post/137786058398/maddigzlz-listen
http://spiderjewel.tumblr.com/post/137787889290/polis-massa-hayden-human-disaster-christensen
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Mister Twister
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No.44981
Anonymous
Replies:>>44987
>>44964
>Now their Star Wars toys are on post-Xmas clearance and it's wall-to-wall Kylo Ren landfill.

Here's the thing: That just means Kylo Ren isn't selling.
Rey was in the initial waves. But so were other characters both important and unimportant. As far as I can tell, she wasn't even really shortpacked, just... not available in as many sublines as Finn and Kylo.
No.44986
Mister Twister
Controversial opinion, coming through!
//youtube.com/watch?v=ZPgtvVTmJMgyoutube thumb
No.44987
rasputin_zero
Replies:>>44989
>>44981
I kept an eye on the Tesco shelves (the supermarket's on the way back from my commute) and I cannot recall Rey ever gracing the Star Wars aisles. Like you said, the toys were out there, but it seems to have never occurred to the stores ordering them that some people might quite like to own a figure of the main fucking character.

This is anecdotal, of course, but while people are leaning on Hasbro I'd say the real problem was management at the end-point. The shops themselves just didn't "get" the film they were trying to make a quick buck off of.
No.44988
rasputin_zero
Replies:>>44990
>>44986
>"The Force Awakens Sucks or How I learned to stop worrying and love Star Wars the Phantom Menace"
Okay, before I click on this, I need a written guarantee in triplicate that it won't give me brain cancer.
No.44989
Anonymous
>>44987

Saw a Rey, she has the normal problem with the Hasbro Legends type figures too much paint makes her face oddly flat since it obsecures the sculpt opposed to Finn which is just the shiny plastic, looks better. Rey does come with a BB8 which may be why it gets snapped up.
No.44990
Mister Twister
>>44988
It's not a video about the prequels that you hate with such passion.

It's a video explaining in detail why the uploader thinks TFA sucks.
No.44991
Anonymous
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>dat scream
No.44993
Anonymous
>>44986

I think this guy made the points that video tried to make, but with slightly better presentation and less meandering:

//youtube.com/watch?v=FNAy7yCMyBwyoutube thumb
No.44994
Mister Twister
>>44993
I'll watch it later.
No.44997
Mister Twister
>>44993
Okay, watched it. What an amazing review.
No.45019
Mister Twister
Replies:>>45020
Saying that TFA is not very good results in a lot of people getting really defensive and shaming you for DARING to not like it. Kind of like shaming for liking prequels, but much worse.

Not saying what other website I learned that on, but it wasn't an imageboard.
No.45020
rasputin_zero
>>45019
Okay, I get that taste is subjective and all that, so people saying they prefer the prequels to TFA doesn't make them "wrong" or anything, but I still find the opinion utterly baffling.

I'm not "riven with hatred" towards the prequels, but seeing how much better the era is handled in The Clone Wars just goes to show that the same material could be made compelling and fun and interesting if Lucas had just delegated a lot more.
No.45025
Anonymous
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>>45024
Needs more cheesy special effects.
No.45076
T4 was here
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No.45080
Anonymous
>>45076
This is probably one of those times where he wouldn't want Vader-senpai noticing him.
No.45098
Jumpman
Replies:>>45101
A New Hope recreated with the films that inspired it.

https://vimeo.com/149371775
No.45100
Anonymous
Replies:>>45101
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That's just perfect.
No.45101
Mister Twister
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>>45098
Very impressive, but the description is misleading. It was recreated with the media that preceded ANH, not all of which inspired George, and some of the things he may not even have seen at the time.

>>45100
No.45102
Anonymous
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No.45103
Anonymous
Replies:>>45105
>>45102
Which is going to have to be him walking towards a light source to keep up thematic elements.

To save her he must walk into the light and away from the dark.

The Redemption of Kylo is going to be one of the overall stories going forward.

He also ends up in a bacta tank due to the massive amounts of environment trauma and we'll see how fucked up and scarred his body is.
No.45105
Anonymous
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>>45103
Although JJ Abrams said in interviews that his development in the movies was supposed to show the rise of a villain to parallel Rey growing into a traditional hero.
I really hope it's misdirection though, the old version from the novel seems to take a more interesting route with Rey having a voice inside her head telling her to kill while Kylo Ren constantly feels guilt and regret and both of them seem to be pulled towards the center. The movies having Rey actually giving in to her violent urges going down the dark path at least for a while, and Kylo Ren getting to turn Zuko before the very last minute would both make for something more interesting than a repeat of the traditional hero and villain narratives.
No.45106
Anonymous
>>45105
We've already gotten the point that something is drawing him towards the light side and he's actively resisting it.

Rey falls to the dark side over some broken heart or similar just as Kylo rescues her. Kylo talks to his uncle about his revelation he's been running from for years. Just as they get word that Rey is gone and she stole a ship and Artoo lets out a solemn whistle.

"What do you mean "We lose more Skywalkers that way"?"
No.45127
Anonymous
Is there any reason why Finn fans hate Kylo Ren so much? I see a lot of talk from them about how the only reason Kylo Ren even has any fans at all is because he's a Straight White Male and how awful of a person you must be if you like him or even want to see him redeemed at all, and how if people really had any self awareness they'd see him for the monster he is. Or how Adam Diver is a fucking asshole for stealing John Boyega's fame and blahblahblah, and how the fact that Kylo Ren has fans at all is proof all Star Wars fans aside from them are racists. Like, a ton of Finn or John Boyega also double as rabid Kylo Ren hate blogs. But the weird thing is I never ever see the same thing coming from Poe Dameron fans, except for the ones who mostly like him because he gets shipped with Finn, even though he's also a likely target for actual racistm, and even though Kylo Ren was way shittier to him than he was to Finn.

Is it just people trying to mask their jealousy or something else? Or does something about Finn's character just make him really popular with assholes, kind of like how the fact that Kylo Ren is a jerk makes him appealing to the Twitards who want heal him through the power of love and kindness? It's not even so much that I like Kylo Ren more than Finn, but having to constantly wade through all this bullshit to get to the Finn fanart and fun Boyega stuff is really tiresome.
No.45128
Anonymous
>>45127
I think I've seen some of the posts you're talking about and it's definitely people being butthurt that their favorite character isn't more popular. It's hilarious to see what could pass for a Redditor fedora post on Tumblr of all places if you change just a few words. "Waaaah why don't people like my fave more? He's a Nice Guy! Fandom never wants the Nice Guys. All you other fans are shallow bitches who love (white) jerks]! And the more problematic, the better!" [insert emotional manipulation, guilt tripping, and a facade of a moral crusade as an excuse to get more of their fave]
No.45129
Anonymous
>>45127

I've no clue. All the new kids are fairly fun and enjoy the roles. Just that toxic garbage that seems to have seeped up into the internet maintstream last few years.
No.45130
Anonymous
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>>45127
I don't know but these folks sound kinda entitled. As the above articles on merch indicate Finn is way more popular with the mainstream audience than Kylo Ren is. Pretty much the only people who love Kylo Ren without a heavy dose of deprecation are fangirl types who don't come anywhere close to the majority of fandom, and even then those types still like Finn a lot anyway. He just isn't their fave.
Also while more Finn fanart and the like is nice, holy shit can people stop being dicks to artists for not catering to their every whim? I've seen multiple artists get bashed for it (this is actually a mild example) and I wish these people were trolling but knowing Tumblr they're probably legit.
No.45132
Anonymous
Replies:>>45133
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-bloodline-will-offer-862118
Interesting. Of the three OT main characters Leia is the one I'm most curious about what happened to. Too bad the author's repertoire seems to be more along the lines of Twilight-esque stuff rather than political drama, though it could just be because she knows that shit would sell.
No.45133
Anonymous
>>45132
She did a novel for Star Wars already and it's way less twee than it sounds so things will probably be fine.
No.45181
Anonymous
http://www.people.com/article/star-wars-episode-8-production-laura-dern-benicio-del-toro
Benicio Del Toro officially announced as a for Star Wars 8, along with Laura Dern and Kelly Marie Tran.
Not sure why so many people are fixated on Thrawn as a possible role for him. There's no room for him in the new continuity.
No.45434
Mister Twister
>>45423
I will watch the fuck out of that.

But I will have to find a way to do it without diving him even one measly view. Maybe it'll be put on torrents...
No.45719
Mister Twister
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The season finale for Rebels was a fucking masterpiece.

I was blown away.
No.45788
rasputin_zero
>>45783
>"This is a rebellion, isn't it?"
>"I rebel."
I don't care how corny it sounds, I am excite.
No.45789
Anonymous
>>45783
This the one going with the Seven Samurai take on things yes?
No.45791
Anonymous
Replies:>>45793
>>45783
>more Death Star crap
Lame. Rest of it looks pretty hype though.
No.45793
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45791

In fairness, this movie is about the original mission to steal the plans for the Death Star—making it a direct precursor to A New Hope—and it’s the first spinoff film ever attempted by the franchise, so going with the equivalent of “comfort food” makes it a slightly safer bet.

But I do hope that the next Star Wars Story takes us into brand-new territory.
No.45794
T4 was here
>>45783
Meh.
So far atlest.
The white grand amiral suit looks nice and I will take it as a nod to Thrawn.
No.45795
Anonymous
Replies:>>45800
>"This is a rebellion, isn't it?"
>"I rebel."

I rolled my eyes. My interest in this is at 0% after TFA.
No.45796
Mister Twister
Replies:>>45798
>>45783
I never wanted to know how the plans to the Death Star were stolen.

I may actually enjoy this one, but I am done seeing Star Wars in theaters.
No.45798
Anonymous
Replies:>>45799
>>45796
>I never wanted to know how the plans to the Death Star were stolen.
We've known like 40 different versions of this story.
>I may actually enjoy this one, but I am done seeing Star Wars in theaters.
>The last star wars in theaters was great, I'm done
????
No.45799
Anonymous
Replies:>>45801
>>45798

We've heard of different parts of the operation. Most the time the Bothan team and their leg of the mission.
No.45800
Anonymous
>>45795
Now, had a MAN said that, I might be interested
No.45801
Anonymous
>>45799
The Bothans were Death Star 2.
No.45802
Anonymous
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>>45783
>Jyn Erso

SOOOOO fucking close.
No.45803
Anonymous
Yeah, not feeling the Felicity Jones = Rey's mother connections here. She looks more like young Carrie Fisher if anything.
No.45804
Anonymous
Replies:>>45805
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>>45800

You got it anon, I'm 100% sexist. That's the reason why I didn't like it. I also hated movies like Aliens because it starred a woman, and I certainly detest the wretched show Steven Universe because again, the rock people involved are all woman-like. It's good we have a warrior for social causes like you around to expose my obvious and flagrant evil sexism at work.
No.45805
Anonymous
>>45804
You make it too frickin' easy.
No.45806
Anonymous
All this talk about mommas and shit. Fuck, I'd say that Luna guy's gonna end up being Poe Dameron's daddy.
No.45807
Anonymous
>>45800
Not him, but if it was a man saying that dialogue, I too would have cringed.
No.45808
Anonymous
Or perhaps there will be no relation at all with the rest of the new characters in the main trilogy. I hate when stories develop to a point where EVERYBODY seems to be family or related in some way, the worst kind of contrivance IMO.
No.45809
Anonymous
They're probably mostly going to die by the end, and Jin or whatever her name is will probably e one of the last survivors.