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Now that Star Wars is in the hands of the Family Friendly American Mouse Company™, how long until we get Blu-Ray releases of all the versions of the original trilogy? I mean the original theatrical releases, Special Edition 1997 theatrical release, and the DVD release. I watched the DVD edit first, and for that (and some other) reason(s) I prefer that one over all the others. However, I realize many other people grew up with different edits, and therefore think we collectively deserve ALL versions in 1080p.

I think it is up to us to bug Disney until they give in. What do you think?
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Anonymous
Disney is good at doing releases of the original material though its a toss up as to what the quality will be.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>42330

>how long until we get Blu-Ray releases of all the versions of the original trilogy?

That depends on Fox, which still owns the distribution rights to Episode IV. If Disney can work out a deal with Fox on the matter, you’ll see the original Original Trilogy on DVD, Blu-ray, and HD-VOD as soon as Disney can get it out. If Disney can’t get a deal done…well, I don’t know if you’ll ever see that release happen in your lifetime.
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So... How about that new teaser trailer?
I was surprised by it, even when I'm not really hyped about this movie.
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Anonymous
I thought it was pretty decent, not all that informative but it still got my attention and there's nothing particularly wrong with it.
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rasputin_zero
>42481
We been talking about it in the general and I thought it was great. Arguably, finding out BB-8 was a real physical droid that actually fucking worked was more mind-blowing. I'm super psyched right now.

There's been more information out about the first anthology film that's going to come out a year later. Rogue One will take the focus away from the Jedi and the big heroes and concentrate on a band of Rebel soldiers stealing the first Death Star plans. The only footage is foggy-as-fuck cameraphone video, so have the LEGO parody instead:
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>42482
But... I don't want to know how the Death Star plans got stolen...
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>42495
Well, that's you, I too think it is an interesting story to tell.
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>42496
>42495
It is an interesting story. A story about a man named... Kyle Katarn.
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Mister Twister
>42496
But what if every SW thing that was left open before, got told? Nothing left to imagine.
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Anonymous
>42498
Though what we do know is that Bothan spies were responsible for attaining much of the intel in both Death Star attack plans.
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Anonymous
Am I the only one who thinks Boyega looks kinda like Admiral Ackbar in some of the shots. It's more than the white suit, I think a lot of it is the angle at which his head is being shot.
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Mister Twister
>42504
Lel.
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Mister Twister
An oldie, but a goodie
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Rewatched Revenge of The Sith again. Loved it then, love it still.
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Anonymous
>42657
Yep. Star Wars is just one of those timeless classics. First saw them so young I couldn't remember almost any of it and it was still great on recent watch.
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Anonymous
Incoming horrible opinion: I think the prequels are about as good as the originals.
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Anonymous
>42659
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Mister Twister
>42659
I never hated them, but they do have some flaws the original trilogy didn't have.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>42674

Like, say, an entire film that both has no practical necessity to the film series (I stand by RLM as well as the Machete Viewing Order) and ruined the idea of The Force as a purely mystical…er, force.
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Mister Twister
>42675
That was always fan headcanon, and was never canon even in the original trilogy.
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>42676
Dunno, in the OT the Force was dismissed as an old wive's tale, some oddball religion that nobody cares about anymore. Wich is strange, considering the prequels show just some decades before they had little handheld devices that could quantify how much Force you had.
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Nøpe
>42677

Midi's aren't force themselves. They're just the component that allows their host to feel the force.

Which was a totally unnecessary explanation.
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Anonymous
>42678
Exactly my point. They had a great level of scientific understanding of what made the force work, the little thingies inside you that allow to connect to it, which could be measured and shit. And then in, what, 2 decades? you have Han saying he's never seen or heard anything that makes him believe such a thing exists, and an Admiral (who certainly MUST know military history, and how the Jedi openly served as generals during the Clone Wars) calling Vader crazy for believing in the Force.
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Mister Twister
>42677
Aside from Jedis, nobody knew what the fuck Force was, or how it works.
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Anonymous
>42686
Yea their inclinclusive secretive nature is what made it possible for Palpy to run the jobbing that he did.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>42686

Speaking of the Jedi Order and their secretive nature:

http://www.cracked.com/article_22320_6-weird-ways-star-wars-had-us-rooting-psychopaths.html
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Anonymous
>42686
Han more or less described it as a mystical energy field which controls your destiny. That's pretty accurate coming from somebody who allegedly has no idea what it is.
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Mister Twister
>42687
Which is why a part of me rejoiced when the Order was #rekt.
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Nøpe
>42704
Traya was right.
Fuck the force in general.
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Anonymous
>42733
Traya was a gigantic hypocrite about the Force.
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Ooh this looks super cool.
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Nøpe
>42735
But her base message was right. The force tends to do more harm than good.
She was just an idiot about it.
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>42678
>They're just the component that allows their host to feel the force
When I saw the movie my impression was it being the other way around, the host resonating with the force and midi's somehow tapping into this as a food source. Thus midi' presence would correlate with but not cause force sensitivity.
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>42755
Qui Gonn outright says this:

"Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you'll hear them speaking to you."

So, unless he was bullshitting lil' Anakin, without the Midi's there is no resonating, it's through them that living things connect to the force. Hell, the "speak to us" part seems to NOT be a figure of speech, as the fluff even goes to suggest that the Midichlorians are somewhat sentient.
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>42756
...So it's possibly that universe's first species of bacteria, what with all other life needing it, which would in a roundabout way make belief in it a sort of ancestor worship as all life forms trace their ancestry back to it?
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Mister Twister
>42757
Rowling said wizards have magic genes.

Don't over-think it, it's just an explanation for the abilities' primarily hereditary nature.
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Anonymous
>42765
And why Vold couldn't make it across the pond. Muddy Watters
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Just rewatched Empire Strikes Back. On 2004 widescreen DVD. Which has Boba Fett's voice changed. What the actual fuck. I feel like sending an angry letter to Lucasfilm, demanding a Blu-Ray release of all cuts of all the movies, so I could construct a perfect version (perfect FOR ME that is).
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Mister Twister
>42779
Also, VLC bug.
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Mister Twister
Just read a bit about Empire Strikes Back. Apparently, the original version of the movie will get a Blu-Ray release. Since it's on Wikipedia, it must be true.
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Anonymous
My interest in SW has renewed since May the 4th.

I need a list of every recommended EU content ever.
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Mister Twister
>42807
There is so much right now, that it often contradicts itself. I recommend reading the totally actually really canon (but unused) The Clone Wars stories adapted into books and comics (look that up). Also, try reading The Star Wars, a 2015 comic made from one of the earliest drafts of the story by George (before it became A Hew Hope).
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>42807
Stay away from any of Traviss(ty)'s crap for one.
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>42807
>42809
>42810
I have actually begun work on a recommended Star Wars listing. Have a look.

http://tinyurl.com/n6qsl42
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>42765
>Don't over-think it
I see no reason not too, midi-chlorians being the first life form makes them seem a lot more legit than just "we need these for force power".

As for magic genes, those would exist anyway because half-veelas.
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Nøpe
>42831
That does bring up a good question.
Are Midi's racist?
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Mister Twister
>42832
Everything is racist. Everything everywhere.
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Anonymous
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-a-star-wars-firing-792933
Huh. I had no idea Josh Trank was even involved with the new Star Wars films in the first place.
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>42832
Nah, they are sapienists, since only intelligente beings seem to be able to do crap with the force.
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Semi-fresh off /v/.
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>42849
My one note is that they look a lot less like skulls and more like sad dudes in sunglasses.
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For those who haven't seen it:
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Pic unrelated.
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Mister Twister
Here is a Star Wars joke I came up with.

What did George Lucas say when directing the sadly cut Anakin/Padme sex scene?

Faster, more intense.
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So, read (or tried to) the SW article on ED, and this is what they put at the end. They do have feelings, hot cute!
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If you haven't seen this one yet, you missed a whole 6 minutes of goodness
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T4 was here
Been watching SW Rebles on Netflix.

My biggest problem with it is the soundmixing.
I cant hear what they say over the music...
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So is Hera Syndulla X Kanan Jarrus a thing or not?
They keep calling each other darling and stuff.
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Mister Twister
>43253
My mother has the same problem. I don't. It all depends on how well you pay attention to one thing while ignoring the other. Concentrate on dialogue, ignore music and effects. You can do it!
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rasputin_zero
>43255
My interpretation is that the two made a Serious Grown Up Decision years back not to become an item in the middle of a tense and potentially lethal rebellion against a galactic dictatorship, and have used that decision as free licence to flirt and joke about being the "parents" of the Lothal Rebels.

Kanan has had attachment issues since Order 66 and Hera's first love is the Ghost, so this arrangement suits both parties. The pairing might be a thing in the future but right now they need to be adults.
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Bunker
>43264
Still I view them as the parents Sabine the older sister and Zeb is the uncle.
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Jumpman
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This is the greatest thing to come out of Star Wars and I won't hear any naysay about it.
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Anonymous
>43284
Really wish it had a ost with these songs
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Mister Twister
>43284
I wish I could enjoy things ironically like you do.
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Jumpman
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>Mark Hamill: Real sets. Practical effects.

Great way to start things off.
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Mister Twister
>43301
The best PR is the most scripted.

With relaxing acoustic guitar in the background.
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Anonymous
>43301
Peter Mayhew back in the saddle. Oh bet he's having a time of it. I do love that the Disney executives were on board and actually pushed for some of the practical aspects.
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>43305
It's more of a financial decision than anything. Believe it or not, you can fake reality with CGI most of the time. The move to 90% practical FX is to lure back as many prequel-burned fans of the original trilogy as possible. Get more butts in the seats.

It's not about art, it's about maximizing profit.

Now THIS IMAGE, is art.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>43307

It may be a financial decision, but it is an artistic decision as well: Actors who can interact with actual sets and objects can do a far better job of making the fantastical seem real. It also lends a sense of realism to the overall film as well, as CGI can still look conspicuous, still fall into the Uncanny Valley even with today's technology, and still be abused by filmmakers (and studios) who use it as a crutch instead of as a tool.
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So, rewatching Empire... again. And I noticed something. After the Falcon flies into the asteroid, the scene transitions into something that was definitely cut from the film. Because you see a moon or a planet, that is nowhere to be seen in the next scene, where Luke arrives to Dagobah. I wonder what was the original scene meant to be there.
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I got you some goodies.
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So Rogue One has just begun principal photography and Disney has shown off the main cast at the D23 event: http://www.starwars.com/news/rogue-one-the-daring-mission-has-begun-cast-and-crew-announced

I've got to say it's looking pretty swank.
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>43725
I don't like this. I think time skips should be left alone.
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>43726
... what time skip?
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>43727

Yeah, if anything, R1 is from Backwards Time Universe.
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Kinda reminds me of Travis Touchdown.
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>43725
Glad to see them going for a diverse cast. It's scifi, takes place in a world which isn't supposed to parallel ours directly, and a franchise well known enough to draw viewers on the name alone. No real excuse not to.
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Mister Twister
>43727
20 (or so) years between the prequels and the NOTprequels. I prefer to not know what happened. Rebels I allow myself to like as an exception, because it ties in with Clone Wars. Otherwise, if you have a time skip between chapters of your story, LEAVE THE SKIP AND DON'T FILL IT WITH ANYTHING.
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Anonymous
Well this is the mission that leads right into A New Hope, those brave souls that broke into the Imperial stronghold to get the plans for the Imperial Super Weapon.
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>43725
Yeah, but where's Kyle Katarn??
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Mister Twister
>43734
Yes, it happens right before New Hope. But is this movie being made because the writers want to tell an amazing story, or because Disney will make more SW sequels/prequels/spinoffs/merchandise than ever before?

If you over-saturate the world with Star Wars to the point it's fucking everywhere like it's perpetually 1977, is it really a good thing?

I will make an extremely controversial claim and say that too much of a good thing is bad.
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>43732
>Rebels
>I don't like time skips
>except when I like them

Man, come one.
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Mister Twister
>43743
One exception. One.

I said I like time skips.
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Anonymous
>43745
>One exception. One.

How do you know for sure that Rogue One won't be yet another exception?
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Mister Twister
>43746
I'll try avoiding watching it on principle, even it it's good.

Not telling you to not watch it though.
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rasputin_zero
>43742
>But is this movie being made because the writers want to tell an amazing story, or because Disney will make more SW sequels/prequels/spinoffs/merchandise than ever before?

This criticism might have merit if we were talking about The English Patient or La Haine or something, but this is Star Wars here. The franchise has been a merchandising cash cow since its inception.

Given that, the Rogue One crew have been very upfront about their motivations for making this film: a group of people really wanted to tell a gritty war story in the Star Wars universe, and now that the Disney deal has pried Lucas' grubby mittens off of the franchise they finally have the scope to produce one. There was a pitch, it struck a chord, and now they've got a director and a team and an incredibly diverse ensemble cast dedicated to making The Dirty Dozen In Space. This isn't an exercise in "filling plot holes", this is intended to be a vignette tale about a ragtag band of diehard underdogs being forced to step into the vacuum left by the extermination of the Jedi. I, for one, am looking forward to it, it's a far cry from the shameless cash grabs I was expecting to emerge from the Disney deal.
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Mister Twister
>43755
Let's hope that is true and people get a good movie.

Still, I'll rather not watch even if it's good.
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>43756
>I'll rather not watch even if it's good.
That doesn't make any sense, in that case you would be abstaining from watching something good, out of sticking with a principle that you already betrayed with another media piece of the franchise. You can obviously do whatever you want, but it is odd and arbitratry choice for no real reason
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Mister Twister
This board is fucking slow.
https://instagram.com/p/65PhxOs_RH/
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Mister Twister
>Star Wars: the YouTube live stream
>comment section
>Anakin did nothing wrong, Jedicaust was a lie
When will shitposters stop being the face of the Internet?
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Anonymous
Is Finn using the Skywalker lightsaber?
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>43850

When “September” ends.
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Mister Twister
>43851
Maybe.
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Mister Twister
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The comment section is almost entirely Haydenposting.
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Mister Twister
I was thinking about the Mortis arc of the Clone Wars. Anakin is given a vision of what will happen, and joins the DS (Dark Side™) because "it would give him the powers to prevent it".

But why are the snippets of the future just a touch different from what happens in EP 3? Because, as Yoda said, "always in motion the future is". Future events have not happened yet, and can play out very differently from your visions. Nice touch, writers.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
Hey, so, remember how this thread started with a question about when Disney might re-release the original theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy?

Turns out, it's probably gonna be really fucking soon.

http://comicbook.com/2015/09/19/disney-to-re-release-theatrical-cuts-of-the-original-star-wars-t/
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>43965
That wasn't really a question. Disney simply HAD to do this, or else their reputation would be forever damaged.

Now I could create my OWN cuts of the original trilogy, with the changes I liked, and minus the changes I didn't like. It would be a fucking dream come true.

Now the only thing left is getting the theatrical cut of The Phantom Menace. I have the LD rip, but I want that in 1080p, dammit.

Animating those episodes of The Clone Wars that had voices and sound effects already done would be the cherry on top of the cherry.
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Fuck everything, posting it HERE.

Anakin Eats Everything:
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>43966

Psst. I said "when", not "if", in my post.
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>43968
Yes, that is correct.
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Say hello to the best Star Wars-inspired song in the universe (that is not about SW).

Roy Wood, 1987
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From one of the /co/ threads (that don't seem to end).
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>44001
With that helmet design I cannot help but want a Mighty Duck exclusive paint version.
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Mister Twister
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And now I get the joke.
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Episode 3 gave us the most versatile reaction face ever.

>ur a faget!
And you are not?

>your mother's a slut!
And yours aren't?

>you're waifu a shit!
And you're a not?

>/co/ is a shit board!
And /v/ isn't?

>implying
And you aren't?
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Variations coming through:
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I like the Star Wars generals. Best generals I seen in 5 years.
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Edit by me.
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Can you find Woolie?
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Mister Twister
>44075
You meant "can I find a wookie"?

Next the the front left wheel thing (from the transport's perspective).
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>44088
So is what's is face Skywalker spawn or something?
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Anonymous
>44088

Wait, what's that Death Star-esque thing in the upper right corner?
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>44090
Might be the backside of the First Order "Starkiller Base" That Ice Planet being Mobile by jamming an engine in the back.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44091

Can you rephrase that in a sentence that average people can parse?
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Anonymous
>44088
Still not feeling the fact that Han Solo is seemingly a bigger, more important part of this movie even if Ford is a bigger name that Hamill.
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F-ing
>44088
I'm not super into it... It feels a bit cluttered.
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Anonymous
>44093
That's what happens when one becomes a well known VA and the other an Actor who its been a while since he's make a top Film. Ford has always been a bit of a pill about being known for his Science Fiction movies.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
Watched the new trailer. That new lightspeed effect is fucking brilliant.
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Is there a John Boyega version of this pic? I hope there is.
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I like how the trailer did not spoil pretty much anything. THAT IS WHAT A TRAILER SHOULD DO.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44100

Everything and nothing all at once.
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Mister Twister
Well well well......
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The poster gets judged by the........ itself.
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Anonymous
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/lenin-statue-in-ukraine-turned-into-darth-vader/?_r=0

Lenin turned into Darth Vader, and he's got built in Wi-Fi
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>44135
Try not to take this as a "mean" response, but you should try to post images on an imageboard.
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Anonymous
>44139
Just thought the article was worth the read as to the reasons behind it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user

This has been going around for a while now; A very extensive and very good argument that Jar Jar Binks was in fact a highly skilled ally to the Sith the whole time.
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Mister Twister
>44169
Funny maymay aside, he was going to be a jedi before George changed his mind about that.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44170

Thank the fucking Divine for that.
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Anonymous
>44178
Though that means he would have assuredly died in Order 66. Mixed blessings.
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Mister Twister
Sheevposting is the Darth bane of the Star Wars threads.
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Anonymous
>44181
What exactly does Sheevposting look like? I have no interest in visiting /tv/ to find out for myself.
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Mister Twister
>44182
I don't either, but it's spilling over to /co/, hard.

Basically posting Sheev and trying to force memes involving everyone's favourite chancellor.
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>44183
To illustrate my point:
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Anonymous
Sheevposting simply is the new Baneposting, it's the exact same stupid thing.
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Mister Twister
So, that SW superfan who had connective tissue cancer, and was expected to die any week now, got to see the movie ahead of schedule.

Normally this would make you all happy and grateful to Disney for doing such a generous act, but...... I would be more pragmatic and say Disney simply did it to gather more "fan love" points. It's all PR, cold and calculated PR.

Happy for the guy though.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44196

So what if they did? Who gives a shit? It was a nice thing to do regardless of the motive.
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Mister Twister
>44197
I am hating myself for writing this, but cannot stop myself somehow. You gave enough of a shit to make a post.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44198

You gave more of a shit by actually questioning the motive; I have no emotional investment whatsoever in what Disney did.
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Mister Twister
>44199
Nor did you have to.

All fair.
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Anonymous
JJ Abrams did the exact same thing for a dying Star Trek fan in 2013. Disney may be a cold, calculating and well oiled machine (unlike your favorite corporation which surely is all flowers and rainbows), but I don't doubt Abrams pushed for it simply because it was the decent thing to do.
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>44202
Sony is all flowers and rainbows, how dare you suggest otherwise!

Also, JJ lied to us again. There will not be another trailer. IN THE UNITED STATES.

He didn't say anything about an international trailer, which can be seen here:
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rasputin_zero
>44204
There's a Japanese trailer swimming about that's meant to be super-spoilery, so I think I'll skip any further trailers from here till release.

God damn, it's gonna be torture.
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rasputin_zero
>44205
Aaah, and the trailer linked here is, in fact, the super-spoilery one.

DON'T CLICK ON IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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Mister Twister
>44206
I respectfully disagree; aside from "BB8 only meeting Rey for the first time", nothing is spoiled.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44207

Yeah, other than maybe a minute or two of new footage, there isn’t anything in the new trailer that old trailers or the plot synopsis haven’t already covered in terms of plot points.
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rasputin_zero
>44208
Ah, that's good news. I'm finding a lot of the plot-vacuum speculation people are doing pretty fun, so I'm glad they're keeping discipline and not just handing us the plot on a platter.

I'm still not clicking that link, though.
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Mister Twister
They keep making short TV spots that spoil 5 seconds each.
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I feel no shame.
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Anonymous
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George gets interviewed in 1999 about Phantom Menace. He freely admits the opening scroll is confusing and likens the Jedi to the mafia.
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Mister Twister
I am forever grateful to whoever decided to put the theatrical version of the soundtrack, on the soundtrack release of Episode 1. The theatrical version has a unique musical bit not featured in the "extended" DVD cut.
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Anonymous
>44299
Not surprising as Lucas kept tweaking things.
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Mister Twister
>44300
Mark my word though, the theatrical cut will be released on BD.
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Anonymous
>44302
Likely the plan after they release the original trilogy
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Anonymous
Hey Disney/LucasArts going into DMCA overdrive to keep people from the spoilers Rey is the next Jedi/Skywalker Newest one is them filing take downs of people posting pics of the toys already in the stores The ones with Rey holding the lightsaber Which proves what people thought more than just letting people see it and further speculate.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
I’m not much of a CinemaSins fan (too negative and nitpicky), but if any movie has ever deserved the CinemaSins treatment, it is The Phantom Menace. In fact, they had to two-part that shit:

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[ding]
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Mister Twister
>44349
Watched it, found it meh.
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Mister Twister
Won't be seeing the movie on premiere day, but that might be good.

I don't want a miserable experience.
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Anonymous
>44354

Yea nearby theater has nice seats but it would be a horrible experience with how many people would be there.
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rasputin_zero
>44355
I got one of the last IMAX tickets going in Central London during Christmas.

Sunday 27th at 7:45 in the fucking morning. And even that showing was nearly sold out.

Keep it under your hat, but I reckon this movie is going to make a shitton of money.
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Anonymous
>44356
It's already breaking records for records. Its likely going to if not already made back its budget on the pre sales.
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Can somebody explain to me why an album that was not released yet, album that nobody heard yet, is getting over a hundred 5 star reviews?
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Rasputin_zero
>44360
Because it's a John Williams Star Wars soundtrack. QED.
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>44360
M O N A Y
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Dave is such a furfag.
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Anonymous
So early reviews of the movie seem to be positive. That it doesn't break any tremendous new ground but delivers in all the right places.

Any yuropoors gone and seen it yet?
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Mister Twister
>44399
Don't ANYONE dare spoil the film for 2 days.

Or I'll curse you for 40 years over the Internet.
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Anonymous
>44400
Darth Vader is Luke's father.
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Mister Twister
Red Carpet video. No spoilers. Dave Viloni. Harrison Ford. George Lucas.
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Anonymous
>44400
Just follow Grievous's lead regarding the Internet until after you see it.

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Anonymous
I heard in the movie, Snape kills Dumbledore.
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Anonymous
>44410
NOOOOOO!
You bitch! YOU BITCH!
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Anonymous
>44410
Spike dies, only to be resurrected on another series.

Though to be honest I do go into spoilers, if only to keep myself from wasting money on bad product.

If its well written being spoiled doesn't come up as a problem.
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Anonymous
>44410
I did not expect this to be as true as it was.
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A gay
Well. That was...heavy.
I think that's the right word for it.

I can definitely see this being polarizing for many reasons. I liked it enough and I'm curious to see where they're taking it.
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Anonymous
The shocking moment fails to be shocking if you'd paid any attention to the actors really early on.
Not to mention the dozens of parallels between A New Hope and this.

At the end of the day, it's decent enough. The thing that I can't quite cope with is the camera work. The puppets also felt really bizarre put right next to the CGI. Each individually was good, but the mix felt odd.
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Anonymous
I liked the Star Wars
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Anonymous
All the major reviews I've read kind of hit the same note: not as good as the Original Trilogy, better than the Prequel Trilogy, a good starting point for whatever comes next with the Star Wars franchise, and a mix of what makes Abrams films both good and bad (mostly leaning towards good).
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Anonymous
>44418
Hows the next director stack up?
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Anonymous
>44418
Pretty much my thoughts. It felt a bit too much like Age of Ultron in the whole "Wink, thats for the sequel, fans!" department. I hoped it would do new stuff and try to be a solid stand alone film, like the 1977 one was. Buuut it copied it in other ways.
Then again, its still a fine movie to this day so there's worse things to copy from.

>44419
Rian Johnson - the guy who did Brick (the wonderful indie high school homage to noir cinema) Looper and the Breaking Bad episode "Ozymandias."
He's got this Fincher-esque visual style that just feels like a natural fit to follow JJ up.
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A gay
>44418
I'd say that's a fair reaction.
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Anonymous
>44420

A Star Wars film ganking plot beats and such from older Star Wars films is at least far more understandable than some other film/series/franchise/whatever doing it.
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A gay
>44422
Especially sense that's ben a major theme of that universe sense episode 6. Hell, maybe even some expanded universe stuff before then.

Honestly, when they brought up the map I started having KotOR flashbacks.
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I liked it a whole bunch. I have to rewatch Empire Strikes Back to see if Force Awakens beats it for my favorite Star Wars movie, it was just that solid. But that is just my opinion.

I'm a bit conflicted that there wasn't force jumping, as far as I noticed. And I felt Kylo Ren was sooooo fucking weak! He lose to a force using newb with no formal training in in The Force or lightsabers! And didn't even beat Finn, a non-force force sensitive and untrained with lightsabers, instantly! Kind of a let down after he HELD A LASER BLAST FLOATING IN AIR FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES! Everything else was more or less ace.

I cried every time someone hugged Leia and when Han died.
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Not reading anything, just posting a picture.
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>44425
Well, Kylo Ren's character pretty much can be summed up as "poor man's Darth Vader", so it sorta makes sense that he would be a shitty Sith.
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Anonymous
>44427

He's not "a poor man's Vader". He's...well, he's best described as "Anakin trying to be Vader". (In a sense, he's also an expy for Abrams in regards to Star Wars: trying hard to seem familiar, but still trying to be something a little different than before.)
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Anonymous
>44428
>he's best described as "Anakin trying to be Vader".

My exact thoughts as well. I believe that he could prove interesting with time and training; he kind of feels like the trope of the evil minion that seems like a pretty bad dude early on, but messes up and continues trying, sometimes better sometimes worse - eventually joining others? No idea what that's called.

What I would like to see in the villain department is more General Hux and Captain Phasma; Hux was essentially Space Hitler and Phasma needed more things to do. Hope she lived... Also, as for Snoke, not sure what to think there.
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Anonymous
Dude really feels Anti-Hero, guess we'll see how that goes.
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Anonymous
>44429

Kylo is trying to be Vader and fulfill what he sees as his family legacy by being a "Sith Lord". OT Vader has been hardened by around two decades; of course that Vader is a badass. What we see in Kylo is a mirror of pre-Vader Anakin: immature, brash, and dealing with conflicted feelings in his heart. His character is arguably one of the few callbacks to the Prequel Trilogy, regardless of whether that was intentional, and a fitting inverse of what Vader was in the OT. This setup also leaves open future growth for Kylo in Episodes 8 and 9, including a possible turn to the Light Side - and I would love to see a canonical Sith-to-Jedi conversion without it being followed by near-immediate death.

Really, the character work laid down in TFA is some good shit in terms of setting the stage for the future of the franchise. And I hope to God that the careers of both Daisy Ridley and John Boyega blow up after this film - they fucking deserve it.
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Anonymous
>44429
>No idea what that's called.
Prince Zuko-ing?
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Anonymous
>44432
Goes back further than that my first for that was Anubis from Ronin Warriors
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Anonymous
>44432
>44433

TV Tropes would call it the Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain, I think. It's been around for ages though. I want to say even the Epic of Gilgamesh had Enkidu as one of those at first. But I could be wrong.
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>44429
>eventually joining others?
I think the TvTropes term you are looking for this specific aspect is the Heel-Face Turn, if the others you are referring to are the protagonists.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeelFaceTurn
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44433

>Ronin Warriors

My brotha.
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Anonymous
>44437
Predating the Toonami broadcast on that one. Watched on Sci-fi's old Animation Station.
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Anonymous
>44436

It'll happen, will be become as great as Tommy, not likely.
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Mister Twister
PIRATING the movie right now.

I will still pay for the ticket, but... I ain't waiting, fuckers.
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Mister Twister
>44441
Seen it. It managed to accomplish everything:
>be a good movie
>be true to the originals (both story-wise and style-wise)
>be something new (story and camerawork)
>take risks (not everything goes well)
>deliver a vision of a new creative team
>set groundwork for 1 more films
>pack a shitload of story into just 2 hours (something Phantom Menace and Empire could not do to this extent) and yet still be comprehensible

And last, but most important:
>surprise me


Cannot wait to see it in theaters.
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>44443
And now, just to be as evil as possible, stealing a GET.
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Anonymous
>44444
This pic made me wonder, how's the whole "David Prowse doesn't exist" thing now that SW is under new management? is that still a thing?
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Mister Twister
>44448
Who is David Prowse?
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Anonymous
>44450
The man in the black suit.
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Anonymous
>44450
Are you joking, or asking for real? If the latter, damn, George Lucas won.
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Mister Twister
>44451
Oh, him! Well, my guess would be the photo has as many actors as they could bring together THAT ONE TIME. There are others missing too.
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Anonymous
>44463
It's not that particular photo, just that it reminded me of the ban that Lucasfilm (and allegedly coming directly from the Lucas man himself) visited upon Prowse, declaring him persona non-grata on any official Star Wars event. Is that ban still in place?
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Tora Doran0CyHpL66I
I really liked it. It was like the OT...not as good as any of them, but as enjoyable and far better than the prequels. I liked the four new humans and Leia...omg. I cried.
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Anonymous
>44465
>not as good as any of them
Not even RotJ?
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Mister Twister
>44464
I hope not. I hope he gets invited to a SW celebration.

>44465
Why do people always need to compare shit to other shit? Is it impossible to not do "it's better than" or "it's worse then"? Is this "power ranking" thing really that necessary? That, and the suggestion that it is not as good as the original trilogy suggests the possibility that it is nostalgia talking.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44467

>Why do people always need to compare shit to other shit?

Our minds naturally work that way?

>Is it impossible to not do "it's better than" or "it's worse then"?

Film Crit Hulk kinda hit upon this idea in his “What Makes a Movie Good?” essay (http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2012/06/26/film-crit-hulk-smash-what-makes-a-movie-good):

Both a critic and a filmmaker can have deep technical knowledge and yet still completely fail. Hulk has said before that Fincher is a master aesthetician who has made one of Hulk's favorite movies ever (Zodiac), but he has also so tonally missed the mark on a few movies that Hulk worry he misapplies his technical acumen. To wit: a great critic can see every movie under the sun and still misapply the logic to miss whatever might have made a movie unique, interesting or compelling and ultimately be the thing that allows it to connect with audiences in a meaningful way. Heck, look at the most obvious example ever in Armond White. The man is actually rather intelligent and has seen just about every movie ever. But it's like his wires got crossed and every day is opposite day or something because he doesn't make a lick of sense when it comes to identifying things that will actually resonate with an audience.

Which means that both criticism and filmmaking are really the processes of well-articulated subjectivity.

Yes, they are opinions and created emotions, but they are informed opinions and created emotions that try to get at the heart of a movie-going experience. That's why Hulk hates doing traditional reviews and never wants to boil it down to some appraisal of worth. In that kind of world, the question shouldn't be "Is the movie good?" but more something along the lines "Does the movie work?" You may equate the two, but Hulk believes that basic change of language can really change the way we think and talk about movies.

>the suggestion that it is not as good as the original trilogy suggests the possibility that it is nostalgia talking

…or people might legitimately think the individual OT movies “worked” better than TFA. (Except maybe for Jedi.)
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Mister Twister
>44468
You are an old school "true" SW fan. At least you sound like one.

That was not an accusation.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44469

I haven’t seen TFA yet; I’m going with what I’ve read about the film and what others have said about it. And while I like the OT (and dislike the PT), I’m not a huge Star Wars fan.
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Mister Twister
>44470
Yes, but you are a true SW fan.

You must hate the prequels to be a true SW fan. Such are the rules.
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>44475
Who made you king of Star Wars and can dictate who is and is not a true Star Wars fan?
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Saw it, its good.
Looking forward to fandom sillyness.
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>44477
Finn and Poe is the ship people are sailing out of this.
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Anonymous
There were a ton of things I liked, more than things I didn't like. Overall I was very impressed and I was surprised by how good it was after the travesty that was both of Abrams' Star Trek movies. I love the new cast and the new droid, and I fucking love the new villain. He's everything that Starkiller should've been. There are a few things that annoyed me about the film, most of them being inconsistencies and pacing issues, but overall I give it a thumbs up.
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The Sneaky Tiki
>44479
The thing with Abram's Star Trek was he had little to no interest in the series, but he was huge into Star wars.
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Anonymous
>44479
>44480

I'm on the complete opposite end. Snoke, Hux, and Kylo did not impress me as antagonists. They all were half-baked and not intimidating with their screen presence. Also, why did Phasma even exist in this movie? The Tonfa Stormtroper did more than Phasma. Ultimately I liked Finn, Rey, and BB8's onscreen chemistry, but the complete retread of A New Hope's plot, while somehow managing to completely miss what made A New Hope's plot good (seriously, you blew up five planets we don't give a shit about, it was no Alderaan moment), really left me severely disappointed in this film's writing and I didn't go in with great expectations to begin with. I'd rank it as a poorer showing than JJ Abram's Star Trek movies. Hell, they had better antagonists than this turkey, and yes I AM including completely generic Romulan. Even the Prequels, for all their flaws, at least gave us Darth Maul, Dooku, Sidious, and Grevious.

Ultimately, all opinions.
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Deon
I like that they actually worked in a useful application for the silly light saber cross guard.
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Anonymous
>44481
My biggest problem with the movie is that they really blew their load with the Starkiller base. We were never shown what the New Republic is like, so when the First Order blows it up, it's really hard to give a shit. They should've built it up over a few movies.
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Good lord, was this guy a wretched disgrace on every level.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44484

>not including whiny-ass Anakin in the “What I Got” pic
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Anonymous
>44484
That's what's great about him though
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Deon
>44486
I'm surprised he didn't get sliced up more so he'd have to be cyborged.
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Jumpman
Needed more youngling killings/10

Seriously though, this was a fun film. I do think J.J. Abrams' Star Trek revival was a more snazzier film, but The Force Awakens had a better foundation for the franchise to expand upon. Excited to see where the sequels will go, along with the spin-offs.

Best part about TFA was how everyone talked like real human beings, unlike the prequels.
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>44485
I would use this pic for "What I Got" and nothing else.
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Mister Twister
>44476
I see I was too subtle with my sarcasm.
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Mister Twister
Anakin is George's spacesona. He is the best racer in the galaxy, and naturally gifted with mechanics.
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Anonymous
>44492

What does that make Rey, who is both those things too?
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Anonymous
>44494
I don't remember Rey being called "the best racer in the galaxy".
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Anonymous
>44495
Her Pilot skills will show up at some point. Pilot Engineering prodigy is the Skywalker bag.
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Mister Twister
>44494
She is a breddy gud pilot and a breddy gud Force™ user.

However, not at one point was she eager to pilot things. She was much more reluctant in that respect.

She was also reluctant to leave her shit sand planet, unlike Anakin and Luke, who both wanted to get away as soon as possible.
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Deon
>44497
Running away from the past and the many ways of dealing with that is sort of the thesis of this episode.
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Anonymous
Just got back from seeing the movie. Pretty damn happy with it. Was highly amused seeing Admiral Ackbar make a return among the Resistance.
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Anonymous
>44425
>spoiler text about Kylo Ren
To be fair, he was injured and not in top condition. Not to mention it's acknowledged in-universe that he's a whiny brat with self-control issues, and he just killed his dad on top of that, which would probably fuck with his ability to keep a clear and focused head when fighting.
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Mister Twister
>44501
You get it, this nigga.
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Deon
Also, is Kylo's light saber all crackly like that on purpose or because it's poorly made?
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Anonymous
>44504
From what I've seen of the one in the stores with the unfinished casing and the wires running along it. Either its one he modded or its just unstable because of the crossblade
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Anonymous
>44504
It's edgy, like his soul
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Anonymous
>44504
The latter, it has an unstable crystal core
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>44478
Personally I'm hoping for some Kylo X Phasma.
Angry dark side tsundere on tsundere action.
Aw yea~
With SL Snoke watching being all like: //youtube.com/watch?v=CsxhMAnglaEyoutube thumb


Speaking of that name is really funny and hard to take seriously because it on letter from being Snok(cute swedish word for harmless snake) and Snokey(so celb).
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Anonymous
Thoughts on the new characters:
Rey – Felt like a better Luke in a lot of ways. Not as whiny, more serious but likeable all the same. The accusations of Mary Sue are definitely overblown. I mean I guess it was a little weird that she was able to pick up how to use the Force so quickly, but part of it is probably for pacing reasons, part of it is her personality and circumstances make her a better learner than Luke, and besides it's implied early on that she was already trained in it from an early age anyway. If she's not Luke's own child, then she's at least a survivor of the second Jedi purge hidden on Jakku for her own protection.
Finn and BB8 – I actually didn't expect to like them as much as I did. They was great, and managed to be funny without being annoying. Also Finn's friendship with Poe was really sweet.
Poe – Wasn't in the movie all that much, but he was great whenever he was on and I hope he comes back Wedge style.
Kylo Ren – FUUUUCK YOUUU
Spoiled fucking brat, but unlike Anakin it's clear he's supposed to be obnoxious on purpose (cast a guy with such a nerdy looking horseface, that HAS to be intentional), and at least Adam Driver can act, so in that sense I guess the fact that he's so unlikeable is a sign that he's a good character if he can piss me off this much.

All the others were OK I guess. None of the new characters stood out as badly done to me. Underused, but there are more movies coming. Probably my biggest complaint about the film would be the awkward pacing and scene transitions toward the beginning of the movie, but those sorted themselves out. And the CG on Maz Kanata wasn't bad, but looked strange next to all the real people.
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>44508
Also of Snoke dont turns out to be tall as fuck or ironically short I going to be fucking PISSED!
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Anonymous
//youtube.com/watch?v=tmrWeliK4fkyoutube thumb
Pretty much my reaction to *that* scene.
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>44478
>44508
I haven't delved through the tumblrs or the pivixs yet, but I'm just hoping there is some Kylo/Rey~

I guess I'm still a horrible zutaran at heart.
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Atlest you'll get more art then my...

This was the best I could find looking all last night...
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>44512
Apparently so, with ship battles already being drawn between Kylo/Reyfags declaring Finn/Rey to be too cutesy and forced or that Finn only has eyes for Poe while Finn/Reyfags accuse Kylo/Reyfags of being pro-rape/incest or women haters.
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Mister Twister
>44513
Hahahahahahahahahaha no.

Fuck those guys.
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>44509
>Luke was whiny
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44517

He was a bit whiny in ANH.
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Anonymous
>44516
No what? They liked the movie.
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Anonymous
>44517
Luke was whiny. Not emo-whiny, but that aspect was there. His main motivation at the start of ANH was leaving the planet because being a farmer was boring
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>Snoke has to be a gigantic freak because holograms
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Mister Twister
>44520
Wanting to leave a boring farm to live a life of adventure is being whiny?







Okay.
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Mister Twister
>44519
I know they did.

I just don't like them.
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>44523
And I don't like you either!
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Anonymous
>44520
>because being a farmer was boring

And all his friends were moving away, and he was not even given enough autonomy by his Uncle to run his own errands. And he lived in a desert wasteland with sand that's coarse and rough and irritating and gets everywhere.
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>44521
Atlest they did not try to fool us that time!
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>44524
I appreciate your joke, it made me laugh deep inside.
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>44525
Last was Biggs and he was already off the the academy, though as we saw ended up with the Rebellion. Had the Emprire not done what they did Luke probably would have ended up in the Empire. Few years down the line being a TIE Pilot flying against the Rebel Alliance.
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Anonymous
I will say this, if nothing else, the Force Awakens has given me a new perspective and appreciation of Episodes I, II, and III.
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44529

You know they're all still shit, right?
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Anonymous
>44530

You know the Force Awakens is still shit, right?
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Mr. StonezWb42fBPMM
>44531

That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it.
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Anonymous
>44532

Likewise.
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Anonymous
Well that was a civil exchange.

I don't know, I feel like I'm the only one that didn't have a hard on for the movie in one way or another.
The things I felt it did wrong threw me completely out of the movie when I noticed them, but I didn't hate it just because it kept disconnecting with me.

I only really can work up an unenthusiastic "meh" about it, while everyone else seems dead set on some sort of fervor.
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Mister Twister
>44530
>44531
Double burn, both died.
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Jumpman
>Grossing a tremendous $153.5 million on its second weekend in theaters, according to studio estimates, Walt Disney’s “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” continued to break records, including the biggest second weekend of all time. On a global basis it reached $1.09 billion this weekend and became the fastest movie in history to pass $1 billion.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/12/27/star-wars-the-force-awakens-box-office-second-weekend/
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Mister Twister
>44538
More like Lucasfilm's "Star Wars: The Force Awakens"

Disney didn't make it, it just gave the team the money.
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Anonymous
>44539

Well overall same as Marvel, also they are better at utilizing everything.
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Mister Twister
>44540
I just don't like it when the writers and directors aren't the ones receiving the praise.
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The dumbest thing I saw today.
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>44541

Yea just part of the writers bag I guess. Writers usually never get a name drop which is a shame.
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Anonymous
>44489
Man I sorta want to go into a /tv/ thread just to collect pictures making fun of Kylo Ren or showing off TR-8R being a badass, but it's /tv/. And Tumblr likes Ren too unironically. What do.
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Anonymous
>44544

I've had good luck just searching the TR-8R tag on Tumblr, but outside that I got nothin'.

Hey for $45 dollars I can have a TR-8R action figure. Tempting.
http://p-bandai.jp/tamashiiwebshouten/item-1000100738/
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Anonymous
I'll wait for the US Blue Fin release
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Anonymous
>44542
She's clearly Palpatine's reincarnation.
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Anonymous
How in blue blazes did Phasma escape from the Starkiller base?

I am feeling the explanation (if any is given) in VIII is going to be real dumb.
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Anonymous
>44548
Presumably the same way Ren did. Snoke and Hux arranged for a mass evacuation pretty early on. There was plenty of time for her to get out.
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>44510
According to Andy Serkis he's supposed to be about 7 foot tall in person.
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>44555
I'll take that.

Also this is why I LOVE Kylo Ren.
He's Comedy Gold!

Just think about him "interacting" with "grandpa" Vader.
Pure gold~
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>44561
Same. Thought I was going to hate the snivelling fuck but I think he's my favorite now. Plainfaced giant nosed loser-kun definitely left the strongest impression on me.
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>44562
And he is smart enough to not kill off useful personnel just because he gets mad.
Plus seeing him, a powerful sith badass, throw a shit fit is fun.
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Anonymous
>44565
>a shit fit

More like a Sith fit
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