/mtv/ - Music, Television & Film

Disney is good at doing releases of the original material though its a toss up as to what the quality will be.

>>42330

>how long until we get Blu-Ray releases of all the versions of the original trilogy?

That depends on Fox, which still owns the distribution rights to Episode IV. If Disney can work out a deal with Fox on the matter, you’ll see the original Original Trilogy on DVD, Blu-ray, and HD-VOD as soon as Disney can get it out. If Disney can’t get a deal done…well, I don’t know if you’ll ever see that release happen in your lifetime.

So... How about that new teaser trailer?
I was surprised by it, even when I'm not really hyped about this movie.

I thought it was pretty decent, not all that informative but it still got my attention and there's nothing particularly wrong with it.

>>42481
We been talking about it in the general and I thought it was great. Arguably, finding out BB-8 was a real physical droid that actually fucking worked was more mind-blowing. I'm super psyched right now.

There's been more information out about the first anthology film that's going to come out a year later. Rogue One will take the focus away from the Jedi and the big heroes and concentrate on a band of Rebel soldiers stealing the first Death Star plans. The only footage is foggy-as-fuck cameraphone video, so have the LEGO parody instead:
//youtube.com/watch?v=7p8aPxzbzJs

>>42495
Well, that's you, I too think it is an interesting story to tell.

>>42496
But what if every SW thing that was left open before, got told? Nothing left to imagine.

>>42498
Though what we do know is that Bothan spies were responsible for attaining much of the intel in both Death Star attack plans.

Am I the only one who thinks Boyega looks kinda like Admiral Ackbar in some of the shots. It's more than the white suit, I think a lot of it is the angle at which his head is being shot.

>>42504
Lel.

An oldie, but a goodie
//youtube.com/watch?v=agcc7w8YmHo

>>42657
Yep. Star Wars is just one of those timeless classics. First saw them so young I couldn't remember almost any of it and it was still great on recent watch.

Incoming horrible opinion: I think the prequels are about as good as the originals.

>>42659
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

>>42659
I never hated them, but they do have some flaws the original trilogy didn't have.

>>42674

Like, say, an entire film that both has no practical necessity to the film series (I stand by RLM as well as the Machete Viewing Order) and ruined the idea of The Force as a purely mystical…er, force.

>>42675
That was always fan headcanon, and was never canon even in the original trilogy.

>>42676
Dunno, in the OT the Force was dismissed as an old wive's tale, some oddball religion that nobody cares about anymore. Wich is strange, considering the prequels show just some decades before they had little handheld devices that could quantify how much Force you had.

>>42677

Midi's aren't force themselves. They're just the component that allows their host to feel the force.

Which was a totally unnecessary explanation.

>>42678
Exactly my point. They had a great level of scientific understanding of what made the force work, the little thingies inside you that allow to connect to it, which could be measured and shit. And then in, what, 2 decades? you have Han saying he's never seen or heard anything that makes him believe such a thing exists, and an Admiral (who certainly MUST know military history, and how the Jedi openly served as generals during the Clone Wars) calling Vader crazy for believing in the Force.

>>42677
Aside from Jedis, nobody knew what the fuck Force was, or how it works.

>>42686
Yea their inclinclusive secretive nature is what made it possible for Palpy to run the jobbing that he did.

>>42686

Speaking of the Jedi Order and their secretive nature:

http://www.cracked.com/article_22320_6-weird-ways-star-wars-had-us-rooting-psychopaths.html

>>42686
Han more or less described it as a mystical energy field which controls your destiny. That's pretty accurate coming from somebody who allegedly has no idea what it is.

>>42687
Which is why a part of me rejoiced when the Order was #rekt.

>>42704
Traya was right.
Fuck the force in general.

>>42733
Traya was a gigantic hypocrite about the Force.

>>42735
But her base message was right. The force tends to do more harm than good.
She was just an idiot about it.

>>42678
>They're just the component that allows their host to feel the force
When I saw the movie my impression was it being the other way around, the host resonating with the force and midi's somehow tapping into this as a food source. Thus midi' presence would correlate with but not cause force sensitivity.

>>42755
Qui Gonn outright says this:

"Without the midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force. When you learn to quiet your mind, you'll hear them speaking to you."

So, unless he was bullshitting lil' Anakin, without the Midi's there is no resonating, it's through them that living things connect to the force. Hell, the "speak to us" part seems to NOT be a figure of speech, as the fluff even goes to suggest that the Midichlorians are somewhat sentient.

>>42756
...So it's possibly that universe's first species of bacteria, what with all other life needing it, which would in a roundabout way make belief in it a sort of ancestor worship as all life forms trace their ancestry back to it?

>>42757
Rowling said wizards have magic genes.

Don't over-think it, it's just an explanation for the abilities' primarily hereditary nature.

>>42765
And why Vold couldn't make it across the pond. Muddy Watters

>>42779
Also, VLC bug.

Just read a bit about Empire Strikes Back. Apparently, the original version of the movie will get a Blu-Ray release. Since it's on Wikipedia, it must be true.

My interest in SW has renewed since May the 4th.

I need a list of every recommended EU content ever.

>>42807
There is so much right now, that it often contradicts itself. I recommend reading the totally actually really canon (but unused) The Clone Wars stories adapted into books and comics (look that up). Also, try reading The Star Wars, a 2015 comic made from one of the earliest drafts of the story by George (before it became A Hew Hope).

>>42807
Stay away from any of Traviss(ty)'s crap for one.

>>42807
>>42809
>>42810
I have actually begun work on a recommended Star Wars listing. Have a look.

http://tinyurl.com/n6qsl42

>>42765
>Don't over-think it
I see no reason not too, midi-chlorians being the first life form makes them seem a lot more legit than just "we need these for force power".

As for magic genes, those would exist anyway because half-veelas.

>>42831
That does bring up a good question.
Are Midi's racist?

>>42832
Everything is racist. Everything everywhere.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-a-star-wars-firing-792933
Huh. I had no idea Josh Trank was even involved with the new Star Wars films in the first place.

>>42832
Nah, they are sapienists, since only intelligente beings seem to be able to do crap with the force.

>>42849
My one note is that they look a lot less like skulls and more like sad dudes in sunglasses.

Here is a Star Wars joke I came up with.

What did George Lucas say when directing the sadly cut Anakin/Padme sex scene?

Faster, more intense.

Been watching SW Rebles on Netflix.

My biggest problem with it is the soundmixing.
I cant hear what they say over the music...

>>43253
My mother has the same problem. I don't. It all depends on how well you pay attention to one thing while ignoring the other. Concentrate on dialogue, ignore music and effects. You can do it!

>>43255
My interpretation is that the two made a Serious Grown Up Decision years back not to become an item in the middle of a tense and potentially lethal rebellion against a galactic dictatorship, and have used that decision as free licence to flirt and joke about being the "parents" of the Lothal Rebels.

Kanan has had attachment issues since Order 66 and Hera's first love is the Ghost, so this arrangement suits both parties. The pairing might be a thing in the future but right now they need to be adults.

>>43264
Still I view them as the parents Sabine the older sister and Zeb is the uncle.

//youtube.com/watch?v=lg_FoEy8T_A

This is the greatest thing to come out of Star Wars and I won't hear any naysay about it.

>>43284
Really wish it had a ost with these songs

>>43284
I wish I could enjoy things ironically like you do.

//youtube.com/watch?v=CTNJ51ghzdY

>Mark Hamill: Real sets. Practical effects.

Great way to start things off.

>>43301
The best PR is the most scripted.

With relaxing acoustic guitar in the background.

>>43301
Peter Mayhew back in the saddle. Oh bet he's having a time of it. I do love that the Disney executives were on board and actually pushed for some of the practical aspects.

>>43307

It may be a financial decision, but it is an artistic decision as well: Actors who can interact with actual sets and objects can do a far better job of making the fantastical seem real. It also lends a sense of realism to the overall film as well, as CGI can still look conspicuous, still fall into the Uncanny Valley even with today's technology, and still be abused by filmmakers (and studios) who use it as a crutch instead of as a tool.

//youtube.com/watch?v=8fMx670jOnw

>>43725
I don't like this. I think time skips should be left alone.

>>43726
... what time skip?

>>43727

Yeah, if anything, R1 is from Backwards Time Universe.

>>43725
Glad to see them going for a diverse cast. It's scifi, takes place in a world which isn't supposed to parallel ours directly, and a franchise well known enough to draw viewers on the name alone. No real excuse not to.

>>43727
20 (or so) years between the prequels and the NOTprequels. I prefer to not know what happened. Rebels I allow myself to like as an exception, because it ties in with Clone Wars. Otherwise, if you have a time skip between chapters of your story, LEAVE THE SKIP AND DON'T FILL IT WITH ANYTHING.

Well this is the mission that leads right into A New Hope, those brave souls that broke into the Imperial stronghold to get the plans for the Imperial Super Weapon.

>>43725
Yeah, but where's Kyle Katarn??

>>43734
Yes, it happens right before New Hope. But is this movie being made because the writers want to tell an amazing story, or because Disney will make more SW sequels/prequels/spinoffs/merchandise than ever before?

If you over-saturate the world with Star Wars to the point it's fucking everywhere like it's perpetually 1977, is it really a good thing?

I will make an extremely controversial claim and say that too much of a good thing is bad.

>>43732
>Rebels
>I don't like time skips
>except when I like them

Man, come one.

>>43743
One exception. One.

I said I like time skips.

>>43745
>One exception. One.

How do you know for sure that Rogue One won't be yet another exception?

>>43746
I'll try avoiding watching it on principle, even it it's good.

Not telling you to not watch it though.

>>43742
>But is this movie being made because the writers want to tell an amazing story, or because Disney will make more SW sequels/prequels/spinoffs/merchandise than ever before?

This criticism might have merit if we were talking about The English Patient or La Haine or something, but this is Star Wars here. The franchise has been a merchandising cash cow since its inception.

Given that, the Rogue One crew have been very upfront about their motivations for making this film: a group of people really wanted to tell a gritty war story in the Star Wars universe, and now that the Disney deal has pried Lucas' grubby mittens off of the franchise they finally have the scope to produce one. There was a pitch, it struck a chord, and now they've got a director and a team and an incredibly diverse ensemble cast dedicated to making The Dirty Dozen In Space. This isn't an exercise in "filling plot holes", this is intended to be a vignette tale about a ragtag band of diehard underdogs being forced to step into the vacuum left by the extermination of the Jedi. I, for one, am looking forward to it, it's a far cry from the shameless cash grabs I was expecting to emerge from the Disney deal.

>>43755
Let's hope that is true and people get a good movie.

Still, I'll rather not watch even if it's good.

>>43756
>I'll rather not watch even if it's good.
That doesn't make any sense, in that case you would be abstaining from watching something good, out of sticking with a principle that you already betrayed with another media piece of the franchise. You can obviously do whatever you want, but it is odd and arbitratry choice for no real reason

This board is fucking slow.
https://instagram.com/p/65PhxOs_RH/

>Star Wars: the YouTube live stream
>comment section
>Anakin did nothing wrong, Jedicaust was a lie
When will shitposters stop being the face of the Internet?

Is Finn using the Skywalker lightsaber?

>>43850

When “September” ends.

>>43851
Maybe.

//youtube.com/watch?v=i3OkEpkwC4E

The comment section is almost entirely Haydenposting.

I was thinking about the Mortis arc of the Clone Wars. Anakin is given a vision of what will happen, and joins the DS (Dark Side™) because "it would give him the powers to prevent it".

But why are the snippets of the future just a touch different from what happens in EP 3? Because, as Yoda said, "always in motion the future is". Future events have not happened yet, and can play out very differently from your visions. Nice touch, writers.

//youtube.com/watch?v=AlYP0hDsk-g
Nice.

Hey, so, remember how this thread started with a question about when Disney might re-release the original theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy?

Turns out, it's probably gonna be really fucking soon.

http://comicbook.com/2015/09/19/disney-to-re-release-theatrical-cuts-of-the-original-star-wars-t/

>>43966

Psst. I said "when", not "if", in my post.

>>44001
With that helmet design I cannot help but want a Mighty Duck exclusive paint version.

//youtube.com/watch?v=WxJrOdImzuA

And now I get the joke.

>>44075
You meant "can I find a wookie"?

Next the the front left wheel thing (from the transport's perspective).

>>44088
So is what's is face Skywalker spawn or something?

>>44088

Wait, what's that Death Star-esque thing in the upper right corner?

>>44090
Might be the backside of the First Order "Starkiller Base" That Ice Planet being Mobile by jamming an engine in the back.

>>44091

Can you rephrase that in a sentence that average people can parse?

>>44088
Still not feeling the fact that Han Solo is seemingly a bigger, more important part of this movie even if Ford is a bigger name that Hamill.

>>44088
I'm not super into it... It feels a bit cluttered.

>>44093
That's what happens when one becomes a well known VA and the other an Actor who its been a while since he's make a top Film. Ford has always been a bit of a pill about being known for his Science Fiction movies.

//youtube.com/watch?v=H1pn4bTAQWA

Watched the new trailer. That new lightspeed effect is fucking brilliant.

>>44100

Everything and nothing all at once.

Well well well......
//youtube.com/watch?v=fdshFSse-OA

The poster gets judged by the........ itself.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/lenin-statue-in-ukraine-turned-into-darth-vader/?_r=0

Lenin turned into Darth Vader, and he's got built in Wi-Fi

>>44139
Just thought the article was worth the read as to the reasons behind it.

>>44169
Funny maymay aside, he was going to be a jedi before George changed his mind about that.

>>44170

Thank the fucking Divine for that.

>>44178
Though that means he would have assuredly died in Order 66. Mixed blessings.

Sheevposting is the Darth bane of the Star Wars threads.

>>44181
What exactly does Sheevposting look like? I have no interest in visiting /tv/ to find out for myself.

>>44182
I don't either, but it's spilling over to /co/, hard.

Basically posting Sheev and trying to force memes involving everyone's favourite chancellor.

Sheevposting simply is the new Baneposting, it's the exact same stupid thing.

So, that SW superfan who had connective tissue cancer, and was expected to die any week now, got to see the movie ahead of schedule.

Normally this would make you all happy and grateful to Disney for doing such a generous act, but...... I would be more pragmatic and say Disney simply did it to gather more "fan love" points. It's all PR, cold and calculated PR.

Happy for the guy though.

>>44196

So what if they did? Who gives a shit? It was a nice thing to do regardless of the motive.

>>44197
I am hating myself for writing this, but cannot stop myself somehow. You gave enough of a shit to make a post.

>>44198

You gave more of a shit by actually questioning the motive; I have no emotional investment whatsoever in what Disney did.

>>44199
Nor did you have to.

All fair.

JJ Abrams did the exact same thing for a dying Star Trek fan in 2013. Disney may be a cold, calculating and well oiled machine (unlike your favorite corporation which surely is all flowers and rainbows), but I don't doubt Abrams pushed for it simply because it was the decent thing to do.

>>44204
There's a Japanese trailer swimming about that's meant to be super-spoilery, so I think I'll skip any further trailers from here till release.

God damn, it's gonna be torture.

>>44205
Aaah, and the trailer linked here is, in fact, the super-spoilery one.

DON'T CLICK ON IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

>>44206
I respectfully disagree; aside from "BB8 only meeting Rey for the first time", nothing is spoiled.

>>44207

Yeah, other than maybe a minute or two of new footage, there isn’t anything in the new trailer that old trailers or the plot synopsis haven’t already covered in terms of plot points.

>>44208
Ah, that's good news. I'm finding a lot of the plot-vacuum speculation people are doing pretty fun, so I'm glad they're keeping discipline and not just handing us the plot on a platter.

I'm still not clicking that link, though.

They keep making short TV spots that spoil 5 seconds each.

//youtube.com/watch?v=rj8jWBig0bs

New Spot.

I am forever grateful to whoever decided to put the theatrical version of the soundtrack, on the soundtrack release of Episode 1. The theatrical version has a unique musical bit not featured in the "extended" DVD cut.

>>44299
Not surprising as Lucas kept tweaking things.

>>44300
Mark my word though, the theatrical cut will be released on BD.

>>44302
Likely the plan after they release the original trilogy

Hey Disney/LucasArts going into DMCA overdrive to keep people from the spoilers Rey is the next Jedi/Skywalker Newest one is them filing take downs of people posting pics of the toys already in the stores The ones with Rey holding the lightsaber Which proves what people thought more than just letting people see it and further speculate.

I’m not much of a CinemaSins fan (too negative and nitpicky), but if any movie has ever deserved the CinemaSins treatment, it is The Phantom Menace. In fact, they had to two-part that shit:

//youtube.com/watch?v=XeXDrvPB5rI
//youtube.com/watch?v=K8ea7OiaLWo

[ding]

>>44349
Watched it, found it meh.

Won't be seeing the movie on premiere day, but that might be good.

I don't want a miserable experience.

>>44354

Yea nearby theater has nice seats but it would be a horrible experience with how many people would be there.

>>44355
I got one of the last IMAX tickets going in Central London during Christmas.

Sunday 27th at 7:45 in the fucking morning. And even that showing was nearly sold out.

Keep it under your hat, but I reckon this movie is going to make a shitton of money.

>>44356
It's already breaking records for records. Its likely going to if not already made back its budget on the pre sales.

>>44360
Because it's a John Williams Star Wars soundtrack. QED.

//youtube.com/watch?v=2HaGe8XcMHA
Hehe.

So early reviews of the movie seem to be positive. That it doesn't break any tremendous new ground but delivers in all the right places.

Any yuropoors gone and seen it yet?

>>44399
Don't ANYONE dare spoil the film for 2 days.

Or I'll curse you for 40 years over the Internet.

>>44400
Darth Vader is Luke's father.

Red Carpet video. No spoilers. Dave Viloni. Harrison Ford. George Lucas.
//youtube.com/watch?v=z0OIPggil7k

>>44400
Just follow Grievous's lead regarding the Internet until after you see it.

//youtube.com/watch?v=DqtwDuJi6Cg

I heard in the movie, Snape kills Dumbledore.

>>44410
NOOOOOO!
You bitch! YOU BITCH!

>>44410
Spike dies, only to be resurrected on another series.

Though to be honest I do go into spoilers, if only to keep myself from wasting money on bad product.

If its well written being spoiled doesn't come up as a problem.

>>44410
I did not expect this to be as true as it was.

Well. That was...heavy.
I think that's the right word for it.

I can definitely see this being polarizing for many reasons. I liked it enough and I'm curious to see where they're taking it.

The shocking moment fails to be shocking if you'd paid any attention to the actors really early on.
Not to mention the dozens of parallels between A New Hope and this.

At the end of the day, it's decent enough. The thing that I can't quite cope with is the camera work. The puppets also felt really bizarre put right next to the CGI. Each individually was good, but the mix felt odd.

I liked the Star Wars

All the major reviews I've read kind of hit the same note: not as good as the Original Trilogy, better than the Prequel Trilogy, a good starting point for whatever comes next with the Star Wars franchise, and a mix of what makes Abrams films both good and bad (mostly leaning towards good).

>>44418
Hows the next director stack up?

>>44418
Pretty much my thoughts. It felt a bit too much like Age of Ultron in the whole "Wink, thats for the sequel, fans!" department. I hoped it would do new stuff and try to be a solid stand alone film, like the 1977 one was. Buuut it copied it in other ways.
Then again, its still a fine movie to this day so there's worse things to copy from.

>>44419
Rian Johnson - the guy who did Brick (the wonderful indie high school homage to noir cinema) Looper and the Breaking Bad episode "Ozymandias."
He's got this Fincher-esque visual style that just feels like a natural fit to follow JJ up.

>>44418
I'd say that's a fair reaction.

>>44420

A Star Wars film ganking plot beats and such from older Star Wars films is at least far more understandable than some other film/series/franchise/whatever doing it.

>>44422
Especially sense that's ben a major theme of that universe sense episode 6. Hell, maybe even some expanded universe stuff before then.

Honestly, when they brought up the map I started having KotOR flashbacks.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Z4CtXcjib4o

>>44425
Well, Kylo Ren's character pretty much can be summed up as "poor man's Darth Vader", so it sorta makes sense that he would be a shitty Sith.

>>44427

He's not "a poor man's Vader". He's...well, he's best described as "Anakin trying to be Vader". (In a sense, he's also an expy for Abrams in regards to Star Wars: trying hard to seem familiar, but still trying to be something a little different than before.)

>>44428
>he's best described as "Anakin trying to be Vader".

My exact thoughts as well. I believe that he could prove interesting with time and training; he kind of feels like the trope of the evil minion that seems like a pretty bad dude early on, but messes up and continues trying, sometimes better sometimes worse - eventually joining others? No idea what that's called.

What I would like to see in the villain department is more General Hux and Captain Phasma; Hux was essentially Space Hitler and Phasma needed more things to do. Hope she lived... Also, as for Snoke, not sure what to think there.

Dude really feels Anti-Hero, guess we'll see how that goes.

>>44429

Kylo is trying to be Vader and fulfill what he sees as his family legacy by being a "Sith Lord". OT Vader has been hardened by around two decades; of course that Vader is a badass. What we see in Kylo is a mirror of pre-Vader Anakin: immature, brash, and dealing with conflicted feelings in his heart. His character is arguably one of the few callbacks to the Prequel Trilogy, regardless of whether that was intentional, and a fitting inverse of what Vader was in the OT. This setup also leaves open future growth for Kylo in Episodes 8 and 9, including a possible turn to the Light Side - and I would love to see a canonical Sith-to-Jedi conversion without it being followed by near-immediate death.

Really, the character work laid down in TFA is some good shit in terms of setting the stage for the future of the franchise. And I hope to God that the careers of both Daisy Ridley and John Boyega blow up after this film - they fucking deserve it.

>>44429
>No idea what that's called.
Prince Zuko-ing?

>>44432
Goes back further than that my first for that was Anubis from Ronin Warriors

>>44432
>>44433

TV Tropes would call it the Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain, I think. It's been around for ages though. I want to say even the Epic of Gilgamesh had Enkidu as one of those at first. But I could be wrong.

>>44433

>Ronin Warriors

My brotha.

>>44437
Predating the Toonami broadcast on that one. Watched on Sci-fi's old Animation Station.

>>44436

It'll happen, will be become as great as Tommy, not likely.

PIRATING the movie right now.

I will still pay for the ticket, but... I ain't waiting, fuckers.

>>44441
Seen it. It managed to accomplish everything:
>be a good movie
>be true to the originals (both story-wise and style-wise)
>be something new (story and camerawork)
>take risks (not everything goes well)
>deliver a vision of a new creative team
>set groundwork for 1 more films
>pack a shitload of story into just 2 hours (something Phantom Menace and Empire could not do to this extent) and yet still be comprehensible

And last, but most important:
>surprise me


Cannot wait to see it in theaters.

>>44444
This pic made me wonder, how's the whole "David Prowse doesn't exist" thing now that SW is under new management? is that still a thing?

>>44448
Who is David Prowse?

>>44450
The man in the black suit.

>>44450
Are you joking, or asking for real? If the latter, damn, George Lucas won.

>>44451
Oh, him! Well, my guess would be the photo has as many actors as they could bring together THAT ONE TIME. There are others missing too.

>>44463
It's not that particular photo, just that it reminded me of the ban that Lucasfilm (and allegedly coming directly from the Lucas man himself) visited upon Prowse, declaring him persona non-grata on any official Star Wars event. Is that ban still in place?