And just because Bleach is mentioned in the OP: it finally ended its Toonami run. (Until reruns start in two weeks, but they'll be airing later in the evening and won't start back at Episode 1 so I ain't givin' a shit.)
Whoever that was, it looked like he was wearing an outfit similar to that of the Kais. So if it was Pikkon, methinks he got a huge power boost between his last appearance and whenever the hell the scene in that trailer takes place.
>>90126 Anyone who truly cared at this point probably didn't want it to end. My only hope is that it gives a firm conclusion to the majority of this bullshit so I can have closure and forget it ever existed.
Naruto isn't turning out how I expected. I was thinking more like Sasuke dies of blood loss, and Naruto has to sacrifice his left leg to mold enough chakra to bind Sasuke's soul to a suit of Susanoo with the Eight Trigrams Blood Seal. Then he gets Kankuro to fix him up with a Puppetmail arm and leg, and he and Susanoo!Sasuke go on wacky adventures trying to find the Philosopher's Chakra.
Popped back in to read the last two (dumb) chapters. All the next gen characters and most of the older designs look pretty bad and the coloring is terrible. I don't remember Naruto's art being this ugly.
Kishimoto's art has been in a state of decline for years. He's basically inking with sharpies at this point.
Anyway some of the kids' designs are deeply ugly, but the Ino/Sai kid is far and away the worst. Maybe it would look less awful in black and white where Sai's sickly skintone wouldn't conflict so much with that bright orange hair, but as is it just looks awful.
Because Sakura's not really the mother, obviously. Perhaps, something, something what do you mean Sakura's not really a part of the Uzumaki clan like Karin? something, something.
Also, I really, REALLY hate that Sai ended up with Ino. It's completely senseless. All the other pairings were either implied (Lee/TenTen, Shikamaru/Temari in spades) or plausible, but not Sai. He's an asexual like Gaara is, so I can't see him ever reproducing; it just seemed as if Kishi shoved him in with Ino because there wasn't anyone else left. It's just a front. He's going all Brokeback Mountain with Suigetsu when nobody is looking.
Here's your explanation for Sai/Ino: Despite everything you would think, Kishimoto clearly demonstrated during the whole Danzou thing that she is not even remotely over Sasuke. And Sai is Sasuke Lite in every single way. He was brought into the series, diegetically and non-diegetically, to replace Sasuke.
Admittedly, Hinata winning the Narutobowl has resparked my interest in the series. Not enough to read/watch the entire thing, but to check out a few noteworthy episodes and films. The Last Movie, in particular, has me hyped. Seems like it could be a good romantic and emotional film. And it's directed by the guy who did Midori Days.
Everything about his quick and total redemption, the 'romance' with Sakura and hell everything that little group of his 'Hawk' which were casually discarded by him but returned like obedient slaves did over the course of the series seem so nonsensical and awful.
Though if we're talking about bastards in this getting rewarded would be sorta amiss not to mention Orochimaru and Kabuto who got off lightly too despite all the flat-out evil and twisted experiments they had performed and all the innocent lives they had destroyed in their time, wandering away scotfree more powerful and immortal than ever.
So many bad guys in this series got 'redemption' and the heroes suddenly acting like they were the best people ever and completely ignoring all the nonsensically twisted and villainous stuff they had done beforehand.
>>90170 It's too much to expect Kishimoto to have a coherent and well-planned-out ending, redemption or not. The thought was probably "Oh, 700 chapters, that's a good number to end on! But I just started this fight between Naruto and Sasuke... well, I'll just wrap that up real quick, no biggee."
Maybe we'll get lucky and whoever is doing that mini will actually take the world and other characters he built up and do something with them.
Would have made for some interesting character designs, though. Here's this kid that's basically Naruto-with-different-hair, he's always doing the eyes closed smiling/expressions...then bam, pupil-less white eyes that see all.
The complete soundtrack list for Naruto: The Last Movie
01 - NARUTO Main Theme '14 02 - New Moon 03 - Friend 04 - First Love 05 - Luner Eclipse 06 - Little Song 07 - Different Sky 08 - Black Bird 09 - Crescent Moon 10 - Crisis 11 - Day Dream 12 - Daymare 13 - Snow 14 - TONERI 15 - Cave 16 - Caution 17 - Close to You 18 - Shadow 19 - The Day 20 - Good-bye Forever 21 - Frozen Field 22 - Old Stories 23 - and Dark 24 - Destiny 25 - Night to Night 26 - Cache 27 - Remember You 28 - Blue Black 29 - Stardust 30 - Recapture 31 - Red Shoes 32 - Unison 33 - Counterattack 34 - My Sunshine 35 - Chain Explosion 36 - The Last 37 - Moonset 38 - Sunrise 39 - New Breeze 40 - NARUTO and HINATA 41 - After Story
Eagerly awaiting all the cheesy romance this movie will bring.
Kishimoto's assistant, for anyone that didn't know. Angry shippers have been tweeting him about their OTP not being the real deal in the end. There's also the spreading of lies, such as the final pages being fake, or NaruHina only happening last minute for marketing reasons. So much buttmad.
>>90190 >>90191 Anyone who is still emotionally invested in Naruto at this point--especially if they thought that Kishimoto would have an ending that would please them in any way--deserves every ounce of disappointment they get.
>>90193 The difference here is its not the quality of the ending's writing, the only reason these particular people are bitching is because they are hardcore shippers who didn't get what they wanted just like say the Zutarians at the end of Avatar.
If that only difference had been Naruto hooking up with Sakura instead of Hinata with no other changes they would have praised the ending as being excellently written.
(There's also some crazy shippers on tumblr ranting that the series is homophobic for not ending Naruto/Sasuke to be fair)
>>90199 >(There's also some crazy shippers on tumblr ranting that the series is homophobic for not ending Naruto/Sasuke to be fair) It's not homophobic to not end that way, but you have to admit--the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke was given far more attention in the actual show than that of Naruto's relationship with either of his potential love interests. I can see someone making the argument that the emotional payoff of a Naruto/Sasuke hookup would have been more earned than that of any other pairing Naruto could end up in. Which is not to say I like the pairing (Hinata's by far the most likable of Naruto's potential love interests), but given the story we were forced to sit through, the Sasuke Route would have been one of the few ways to justify those two's fucked up relationship over the course of the story.
>>90200 Thats just Kishi being a terrible writer, especially when it comes to characters interactions and their actions.
Look at Minato, cunt that killed himself because he couldn't be bothered to be a single dad, shushing his wife even as she tried to tell him how crazy and unnecessary that was.
Third Hokage, useless old bastard who didn't do a damn thing right, not with the village and not even looking after the kid of his successor properly (Also it makes no sense that people didn't realize he was the 4th's son, despite looking so much like him, and being the one with the demon sealed in him just like the 4th's wife had in her previously which is the whole reason they resented him, he even had his mother's surname)
Jiraiya, Naruto's Godfather, turns out to be another scumbag. Instead of being a kindly, crazy old wise man who took up this bright looking young man out of interest, he's a fucking asshole who completely abandoned this little baby who was his godson, did nothing for him all the years he was completely alone and crying to himself in his sleep. Its even more nonsensical with the reveal he was willing to take care of three random brats for three years that had no relation to him?
Itachi, the manga fellated him heavily when he cam back as a zombie but it does nothing to change the fact the things he did were not only villainous but also stupid and detrimental to what he states as his true goals. Trying to turn him into a saint after all that was nonsense.
Obito, dubbed by the hero as "the coolest guy", actually a total monster and whiny prick who's petulance lead to massacres of countless innocent people amongst other crimes just because the chick he was obsessed with as a kid died.
As another example of Kishi's poor character writing, the whole reason this movie is coming out (explicitly called a love story showing things coming to a climax) and the epilogue was so brief is because he's admitted he can't write romance well(/at all). The reason side characters are more likeable in the series is because they have to suffer through less chances of being written by Kishimoto, have a cool moment or two to stand on and a likeable basic character without plot cancers growing through them.
>>90203 I think that the whole "keep stretching the manga out as long as it's popular thing" that hits every shounen writer hit Kishi particularly hard. It's pretty obvious with the way the story constantly folds back on character development and plot in order to keep it going. Bringing popular characters back, reusing plotlines, etc etc.
I know it's not anime, but the only thing I can compare it to is House MD. Where you kept waiting for the main character to become a better person and make some progress with his life. And every season finale you would see some progress only to have it all reset, and by reset I mean crash and burn, the next season and go back to the status qo. Except in Naruto it happens on a plot-wide scale.
Despite its faults though, I was honestly satisfied with the ending. I think I'll enjoy it a lot more when the animators and sound team have a crack at it though, and hopefully expanding on some scenes and things that were left unexplained.
>>90205 >>90203 Also, it is obvious that Kishimoto didn't plan out much about the ending beyond "Naruto becomes Hokage". I think that was his biggest mistake. He wrote himself into corners for the sake of keeping the story going, and when it came time to tie everything together no one could have done it in a satisfying way.
I don't want to sound like the shippers, but the character design for Sarada could be seen as proof of this. It's like he designed a character to be Sasuke's daughter in advance. But as he wrote the final arcs even he didn't know whether he was going to have Sasuke end up with Sakura or Karin. So he left the design ambiguous enough to be changed around with minor alterations depending on how it turned out.
>>90206 >Also, it is obvious that Kishimoto didn't plan out much about the ending beyond "Naruto becomes Hokage".
Yeah, no kidding. Honestly, honestly, he sort of blew Naruto becoming hokage too. Naruto's desire to be hokage was never about the office itself, it was about Naruto attaining social acceptance. He wanted to be hokage because everyone had to respect and accept the hokage.
But the thing is, Naruto already has that. After the Pain arc there was no way around the fact that he was an accepted and even honored part of the village. That narrative arc was closed. Which makes Naruto actually becoming hokage just a piece of empty formality, devoid of any real impact.
>>90208 I wouldn't go that far. Naruto starting out as a kid that flunked ninja school three times to becoming the greatest Hokage the village has ever seen shows how all his hard work paid off in the end.
>>90211 Except that's nonsense, it turns out he's the prophesied child of destiny who is also the reincarnation of a legendary figure and is part of a noble clan and bloodline. It stopped being about hard work when he got handed multiple powerups just because of who he was.
>>90208 DudeWithMoney is also right, if Naruto had NOT become the Hokage and been living happily in the end at having the respect of others and a loving family that would be an ending that showed meaning.
I bet if Naruto had been a girl, and her interaction with Sasuke was left as-is: constantly going after him, refusing to believe he was irredeemable even to the point of physical danger, no matter how bad he hurt her and turned his back on her, some of the same Sasuke x Naruto shippers claiming homophobia would be throwing around words like "problematic" or "sexist." Hell, I bet there's people saying that about Sakura now, for marrying the guy...
Straight out, those two had a pretty abusive and toxic relationship for a really long time, but then they blew off each other's arms and I guess he worked it out of his system?
I know The Last is being written by a different team,* but I'm 100% certain it's impossible for a single movie to redeem literal years of Sasuke mercilessly trying to kill the protagonists and bring the world to its knees.
*Different Team or no, I want to see Hinata actually be useful. It'll be kinda pointless if she isn't at least capable of holding her own in a fight.
>>90213 >Hell, I bet there's people saying that about Sakura now, for marrying the guy...
Yeah, that's actually a big problem I have with the ending. I'm a NaruHina guy myself, but I would have accepted a Sakura ending if that fake confession of hers was actually sincere. Having Sakura realize the guy she's been crushing on since she childhood was actually an psycho and that she needed to move on would have been a fascinating development for her. Along with her realizing her true feeling for Naruto as an adult.
I'll admit I'm not a fan of Sakura, but I didn't like how her questionable devotion to Sasuke was rewarded in the end.
>I know The Last is being written by a different team,* but I'm 100% certain it's impossible for a single movie to redeem literal years of Sasuke mercilessly trying to kill the protagonists and bring the world to its knees.
The M.O. for the movie, though, is just establishing Naruto and Hinata's relationship as lovers. The only thing I'm expecting from the film, regarding Sasuke, is when he and Sakura fucked. Because right now the only thing we have going is that "Boom. You're pregnant" edit.
>I want to see Hinata actually be useful.
One of the leaked images from the movie had her with super Byakugan, so it looks like she will keep up.
In Bleach: Ukitake and Shunsui are being shadier fucks than usual and Kubo still doesn't remember that Shunsui is supposed to have an eyepatch. Meanwhile, the Monk of the Royal Guard isn't going to job out with out a fight it seems.
In One Piece: The tragic tale or Corazon comes to an end and we possibly learn about X Drake's origin.
I'm not caught up with One Piece yet (I'm on the Impel Down arc) but what would be the most disappointing thing it could be, though? I think by this point, it just being actual money would have to be the least impressive thing. Or maybe if it was some sort of superweapon, a la Halo.
Rewatching DBZ via Kai on Toonami reminds me why I vastly prefer DBZ Abridged. Or maybe it's just the dub, I’unno. All the dialogue sounds ridiculous and there's SOOOOOOO much of it that's either infodumping or Generic Shounen Bullshit. Abridged (when isn't trying to be hilarious) gets plot-relevant info and dialogue into the mix without spending an entire goddamn episode on it.
>Dragon Ball Z: Fukkatsu no F (Dragon Ball Z: F Is For Fukkatsu; fukkatsu in this case means ‘resurrection’, while Toriyama himself said the ‘F’ refers to Frieza)
>An Earth where peace has arrived. However, remnants of Frieza's army Sorbet and Tamago arrive on the planet. Their goal is to revive Frieza with the dragon balls. Their dastardly wish is granted, the "F" that plans its revenge against the Saiyans is revived...!
This is all just like the continuing Naruto novels and manga, though of course toriyama's franchise is no stranger to being milked its simply the new animated fodder brought out after the years since the giant monster movie being them kicking it up a notch.
Hell let's just get Naruto and DBZ to have a crossover movie and make it 'canon' to each series for extra marketing hype.
>>90258 Worse, thats not even a question, Umbrelly should not have been kept around after the one movie (though at least the movie featuring his clone was interesting solely in that it didn't involve Goku appearing to take any spotlight in fighting the movie villain AT ALL, not even his ghost showing up to actively take part like against Bojack or Broly in his second movie).
He became incredibly cancerous non-character who got pushed too much, plus his fanboys were some of the most awful examples in the fandom >>BROLY IS THE BEST HE'S STRONGER THAN EVERY OTHER VILLAIN!!!
This is stupid. The entire POINT of Brolly's Legendary Super Saiyan form was that it was a transformation unto itself that had no limits; his power level basically just kept on rising the longer he used it. After the zenkai he got being smushed by the comet and crashing onto Earth, it even exceeded the level of a Super Saiyan 2. Having him transform into SSJ3 or 4 is not only ridiculous, it misses the point.
Okay, I'm honestly really curious about this one. Excepting Yamcha and possibly Krillin, there isn't a single major character in the series that couldn't solo Frieza, hardly trying, at this point. Even Goten or Trunks could manage if they turned Super Saiyan. Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan wouldn't even HAVE TO turn Super Saiyan!
So I'm guessing he's going to somehow have some kind of Cooler-ish transformation that enables him to magically reach the power level of a Super Saiyan 3. Ugh...
It doesn't help all the saiyans have such utterly boring fighting styles, while anyone who has interesting techniques is benched since power level bullshit only cares if you are a saiyan, or more specifically Goku and sometimes Vegeta (not Gohan, even when he becomes stronger than his old man multiple times he's soon bitched out so Goku can save the day)
Seeing the human Z-fighters defeating Freiza through them teaming up and attacking him at once would be far more interesting to see.
Bleach: The Vizoreds are back and they brought Yoruichi's little sister with them while Urahara is acts shadier than usual. Meanwhile the monk has his best psycho face on and is seemingly using his powers to cut Ywach's abilities in half. Which means there might be a few more chapters before he jobs.
One Piece: The Flashback is over and we get a status report of that's going on. Law reveals he's a D and begins his counterattack on Doffy. Also Senior Pink saved a cat.
Seems like Jump won't be mourning the hole that Naruto left. Hero Academia is supposedly selling gangbusters. So much so that the tanks keep running out of stock. I'm so happy for the mangaka. This was probably the last try Jump was willing to give him and he actually hit the motherload. And the manga's tons of fun, too.
>>90289 Seeing a western-styled manga superhero organisation being explicitly focused on pure heroics is so uplifting, usually its pretty corrupt with the "heroes" being pushed by the system just to become assholes that care more about earning points and outranking each other than doing good.
I'm loving this series and characters. The art is pretty sweet too and there's some great character designs specific ones made me think of the Xmen.
>>90296 The mangaka is a huge cape fan, as evidenced by a bunch of fanart he drew. Even the color pages of the manga are inspired by Western comic covers. He also supposedly draws while wearing Spiderman gloves.
>>90289 Hero Academia? I might start following that series!
>>90297 Its nice hearing about comic artists from a region being open to absorbing artwork from other places. Used to be manga authors just consuming manga, americans just having american, and so on. The french side really started standing out when they started combining their own schooling with both japanese and american styles, and lots of upcoming US artists are really coming forward with their japanese influence.
>>The Naruto mascot at the showing tweeted the kissing scene perked him up. Some people say the kissing might be to much for kids. Very passionate the knuckle-headed ninja it seems. He has problems at first because Hinata is too short
>>90289 Really like the MC's hero suit glad that it was explicitly stated he has sent it off to be repaired from the battle damage it sustained instead of just being discarded and sticking him in something "cooler"
People have been talking about Naruto alot everywhere because of it ending and the movie and it caused me to come across this being posted. My only question is when did Shizune get such damn sexy gams?
>>90395 Man DBZ is such a terrible franchise, the only thing that is making me think about getting the new fighting game is the in-depth character creator and the fact that the gameplay looks far better/more fun than the past couple of games. Has any new info been released regarding it?
Man its getting really pathetic with the shippers in regards to the new naruto movie, they are going MAXIMUM ZUTARIAN.
They are intentionally going out of their way to pick out negative Japanese comments and try and claim thats proof that all Japan hates the new movie/Naruto & Hinata getting together, or that it isn't making any money despite making as much money as the previous film did over time on its opening night alone. Also trying to claim that voice actors are in revolt and refuse to do more work because of particular characters not getting together.
Somehow this seems even worse than those people starting petitions to try and get the movie banned in the west or force Kishimoto to change the ending, its like they think they can sneakily alter reality if they get enough people to believe their propaganda.
>>90445 If we're going by pushing volumes and merchandise, both Haikyuu!! and Kuroko no Basuke would be in the "new" Big 3 over Toriko and Boku No Hero Academia. The next generation of Jump's topsellers are very much defined by the female demographic. We're entering the age of fujoshi.
>>90443 Infinity Girl is awesome, doesn't matter how buff they be she can toss them into the stratosphere! I also like her massive megaman boots.
Something that came to me in the current issues that I should probably spoiler it makes sense that the majority of the villains attacking the heroes are just chumps who can get taken down by the young heroes. Think about it, in this world the majority of people have a superpower or 'quirk'. They can throw on a costume based around a theme and commit crime but it doesn't mean they are going to be good in a fight or their quirk is particularly useful for combat and criminals don't have to be disciplined or be impressive enough to get into special training schools so they end up just being henchmen called up by other villains simply with flashier outfits. Basically in this world most of the mook villain henchmen are superpowered where in other comic universes would just be common thugs.
>>90458 Source? Though I've no problem believing it.
He must have stolen someone's proposal when he created Naruto. He gave us this large world with an expansive set of characters who have a tone of potential... then spends 90% of the series focusing on Ninja Jesus, Ninja Judas, and their deus ex hacks while shitting all over the world, including his own canon.
>>90460 >He gave us this large world with an expansive set of characters who have a tone of potential...
That seems to happen quite often. Not developing stories beyond the premise. I agree the idea BEHIND Naruto is great - Ninja town and ninja school... but its wasted. Same with stuff like Battle Athletes, and I'd even go as far as to say Sword Art Online or whatever that's named.
>>90461 While it's true that failed potential is not a rare thing, Kishimoto seems to be especially good at it. Also, most stories start off with a small-ish group and gradually open up. Hunter x Hunter is a good example of this, I think; at least, from what I recall, it built up into the lumbering canon that it is now.
Naruto, on the other hand, tried to do a dozen main-ish characters from the start with heavy influence by secondary characters (Iruka was a large part of the very, very early story, but then just popped up whenever Kishi wanted to Naruto an extra reason to up the hax) and in the end almost none of them got any character development.
>>90505 Badass! Its good to give him this chance to show what he could do and why he's the symbol of peace, while at the same time we know this won't be him overshadowing the rest of the cast from their own time to shine in the future...
>>90522 Don was Chinjao, the old pinhead. Then, his grandson and successor surpassed him, and Chinjao surrendered the title to him. The new Don is Sai, the grandson of a guy who got his head caved in by Garp, who uses a Guan Dao and who has a brother.
>>90547 With out getting into heavy spoilers, it looked like it was going to into a thing about exploring overcontrolling parents and the mental abuse they inflict on their children, but just when things were heating up the story was resolved in a quick unsatisfactory manner and it looks like they're dropping it.
It was also going into why the blue haired feminine boy was the way he was.
>>90554 That wasn't what I was asking, I know he wears the seperate piece on his face with his actual superhero costume and is just wearing another one he bought with his gym uniform, he mentioned that. Its just bugging me that I don't know what to call that piece of his outfit.
>>90577 Take your own advice and follow the string of posts, the only 'character designs' being discussed are the superhero versions of the creator's assistants, who were likely designed by the assistants themselves since they were just being used as a shout-out to them in some bonus page. The assistants quite likely submitted their own designs for themselves for the shout-out instead of the the creator designing them, how much simpler can I make it.
Explain this to me, because this is what I'm hearing on /a/: There was a scene in the Bleach anime where Ichigo and Orihime held hands, after the Grimmjow fight. That moment wasn't in the manga and Kubo got mad, leading to the scene being removed in future re-broadcasting. Later on, there's a filler episode that's basically IchigoXRukia and it has the two of them holding hands. Kubo's response is that the animation is beautiful. Is this right?
I stopped following the series during the Soul Society arc, so I have no clue about this situation.
I'm catching up on the Fairy Tail anime (dub is available on Hulu and it's good for background noise) and just got to the time skip. Stupid. I do recall people complaining, but was it as badly handled in the manga? It was simply one episode things are normal, then sunken island at the end, then next episode we're seven years later, and in 20 minutes everyone is back and okay because herp-derp they were sleeping. Not even a change of wardrobe, which is surprising considering how often they do so in this series.
Bleach and One Piece are still things. The captains are about to break in and the monk thinks Ichigo is going to job. Meanwhile we Leo did a coll thing and rescued the princess and we're still not back to Luffy.