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World Trigger is pretty cool. This latest arc shows that the author is actually pretty decent at juggling lots of characters being involved in a big battle scene, which is rare.

It's only just beginning so there's still plenty of time for it to go Full Retard, but hey. I'll take it over Bleach and Naruto right now.

>>88525
I'm not comfortable having One Piece share a thread with those other two turd pies.

>>88551
Suck it up fanboy.

This is a thread for all those type of series.
The quality and lack of posts on the /op/ board of the old plus4chan shows it doesn't need the space to itself.

>>88552
Nor are all OP discussions going to take place on your shitty conglomerate thread. New OP chapters are still getting their own threads.

Actual OP here. The only reason I started the thread so we wouldn't be cluttered with different threads. I meant no harm by it. This was just gonna be a temporary thing until we get word from on high about the other threads who aren't here. It's stupid to fight about it.

I propose a compromise, which is the way we used to do OP threads before /op/. One Piece will get a One Piece thread. Everything related to One Piece goes in the One Piece thread including the weekly chapters, anime stuff, and stream announcements. When it fills up and autosages off the board, we will make One Piece thread #2.

Otherwise, this thread will be transformed into OP Gen anyways, with the exception of one or 2 posts every week talking about how bad Bleach and Naruto are.

Every other series can stay in this thread. Then again there isn't really a purpose to this thread unless you specifically what to quarantine Bleach and Naruto away from /jam/ general. Every other series is generally ignored, or would fit into /jam/ general without causing any ruckus. I guess if you DO specifically want to toss Bleach and Naruto into an easily hideable thread we could make something like "The Naruto and Bleach support group thread".

>>88556
This, having just one OP general seems like the best idea. New chapter threads were always usually just 30 posts or so.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/05/12-1/new-naruto-sun-storm-revolution-screens-feature-narutos-mom

Naruto's mom is cute.

There. I said something positive about Naruto.

*fans self*

I think this is the worst Kenpachi has ever been jobbed.

>Samurai Admirile is a douchbag.
>Pica has a stupid high voice.
>Dom appears to love his crew like family.

One Piece still going strong.

>>88577
Kenpachi is a douchebag, I'm happy for him to get jobbed just like he jobbed Captain Mom.

>>88578
The Doflamingo family is such a great batch of villains. the family/professional combo works perfectly, and having a team of total monsters who nonetheless care about each other very much is hilarious. I can't get enough of them.

>>88580

Eughhhh... I dunno, I've found their designs to be ugly as sin. I think that's the point, to be as bizarre as silly-looking as possible, but they're far from being my favorite villains. I also don't think they've been developed all that well yet, or at the very least they haven't been developed to the point where I would care about any of them. It's tough in my mind to top the Baroque Works as their agents got several arcs all to themselves before Crocodile was brought in, whereas here Doflamingo got a lot of appearances in previous arcs before his underlings showed up, and as Doflamingo is the more interesting character I have a hard time caring about his subordinates. He simply overshadows them with his presence, in my opinion.

>there are people who honestly read Jump for anything other than OP nowadays

I mean seriously think about why you are doing this besides just "let's see how bad it can really get"

Jesus so much chaos in chapter 747 of One Piece

Brief fights all over not to mention Dofla showing he has something even he stands up for

Also although the anime isn't worth bothering with nowadays I'm curious as to what Pica's voice will sound like

Does anyone know a good place to read World Trigger?

>>88592
And now for things to get even more chaotic.

I love how Law is literally being dragged kicking and screaming through this beautiful stupidity.

I love you One Piece, this level of dumb is magic!

This is turning out to be the best arc.

I'm pretty glad that all the important members of the Usopp cult did not give in with Dofla's game. Even Abdullah and Jeet, whom are pretty scummy are there all the way.

I wonder if the Funk brothers, Jean Ango, Acilia, Rolling Logan, Kaido look a like, Shaman mummy, Tank Lepanto, and Damask are also gonna charge later on and there just wasn't enough space for them or if they are too irrelevant now, or some decided to get the bounties.

You guys have a favorite colloseum participant? Besides Barto I mean. I love Suleiman, dude's a fancy nationalist gentleman.

Also so much for Bellamy's return to the story.

Whoops, bad news everyone. After tomorrow's chapter, OP will be on a two week break because Oda's going to be hospitalized. I know it's impossible for Oda to read this message, but get well soon and take it easy.

worse, we might be setting up for Madara to "finally open his eyes" and suicide himself to save the world while saying "thank you Naruto".

>>88706

Probably both.

Jesus titty-fucking christ, every time I think this series can't get any dumber.

>>88705
I'm probably looking too far into it but isn't it a little fucked up that one of the most powerful women in the Naruto universe is just out and out evil?

Also those dreams were a laugh riot.


I honestly think the guy gave up half way through.

>>88704
I'll pray for him.

>>88708

If Kishimoto wasn't so consistently terrible with his female characters it would be worth giving him the benefit of the doubt but. Well. He is. So no, it's going to be terrible.

Anyway, I hope Oda's health problems aren't anything major.

>>88711
>Anyway, I hope Oda's health problems aren't anything major.
Honestly, it's probably just exhaustion from overworking himself. He's that kind of person.

>>88713
Kinda jelly. I've been needing that operation since years, but I can't afford it. The pain can be kinda tough at times.

So in review

Naruto: Sasuke calls two of his compatriots useless garbage and everyone's ok with that. Everyone else get's stuck in stupid dreams which either play off of what little development they got or in the women's case they all get their dream boats with the exceptions of TenTen who just want her boys to do good. And after all that hemming and hawing about how unstoppable he is, not only does Madara get one shot-ed by a Zetsu controlled corpse, he's not even the main villain which turns out to be the Rabbit Lady which is really sad if you think about it.

Bleach: Number 1 intensifies and the Quincies remember that they have bows and uses them as we realize that Kubo probably shout switch it out to a monthly if he's going to go at this pace. Also the bad guys are on the move because of course Bach had a plan for New!Ichigo.

One Piece: The Luffy train continues to have no breaks except for Law's back story and Oda's tonsillectomy.


Can we talk about World Trigger for a while? or Assassination Classroom?

>>88713

Oh, thank goodness. I thought it might have been something major. Well, it's pretty nice that he basically gets to take a small break.

Naruto and Bleach are so terrible, why are they drawing out their ending arcs for eternity.

Also fuck Madara, he has gone through what must be double-digits amounts of bullshit power ups in THIS SINGLE BATTLE, and he's still a pathetic guy who turned out to be worthless despite said bullshit god-like powers. He's even worse than Aizen.
The rushing Power Creep in Naruto isn't impressive, its just stupid and lame.

Pica turning out to be a swordsman just because zoro will be the one to fight him is pretty lame.

>>88719
His original stone abilities?

Actually there's no reason for him to stop using them like this and switch to attacking them in person with a sword EXCEPT for to make him yet another Zoro sword-fight.
Its pretty unimaginative from Oda.

>>88718

Oh no a pirate with a sword what a shocking development.

>>88719

For a brief instant during the Gaara section he actually remembered why people used to like this manga.

And then promptly forgot again.

>>88721
A guy with such powerful stone-manipulating abilities foregoing them just to run up himself and attack them with a big sword where they can harm him directly is a pretty stupid development.

>>88723
>>I don't think he can control stone too fluidly
He was manipulating stone of the palace earlier and then later used his powers on a wide-scale to shift the positions of it and the factory

Having him give up his rock powers and resort to mundane combat just seems like a cop out now, otherwise the heroes would be unable to land a blow on him.

He's not a Logia either, he's a Paramecia

This chapter of Naruto was a pretty staggering insight into why Kishimoto has no idea how to right a good female character. And it's simply because he can't for the life of him possibly imagine that a female could have any aspirations or goals for her life other than wanting a man. Period. Even the two hokage's. They're not dreaming about their villages prosperity, or being great leaders to their people, or reigning in an era. Nope! The only thing they could possibly want is a man because vaginas.

Jesus tap dancing Christ!

This also probably stands out to me more than it usually would since I'm currently re-watching Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood which has more than its fair share of well written female characters. None of whose motivation is getting on a penis.

>>88726
Huh, you are right.

The only girl who doesn't seem to be obsessed with romance to a dude is Tenten who is just hanging out with her team and giving her bowl-cut comrades "stylish" hair styles.
And I'm sure Tenten/Neji shippers would take her standing beside Neji as PROOF PEOPLE regardless.

Though I would give alot to have Winry on my penis

>>88728

I vaguely remember that Tsunade had a dead brother and boyfriend that both wanted to be hokage and that the fact that Naruto reminded her of them was the reason she decided to stop being a hobo and become hokage herself.

At first I didn't really want to share a thread with Naruto since I was getting used to ignoring it's existence. It doesn't seem so bad now, though. For some reason it's bringing back memories of when Naruto wasn't aggressively terrible. When was that, like 10 years ago now?

>>88731
So now he brings himself down to their level where Luffy or Zoro could beat him.

Its pretty obviously just a way to make him beatable where before even with their biggest attacks they couldn't touch him controlling the very material that made up the island and he would be able to keep regenerating his stony projection.

If Luffy didn't leave to make this fight a one-on-one swordfight it would be over even faster.

>>88732
Why do you assume it'll be a straight up swordfight?

>>88729
>It doesn't seem so bad now

What, did the fight with Madara end yet?

>>88732

They would have beaten him as-is, because in this context 'beat him' means 'get past him to Doflamingo'.

>>88737
In that case he's already lost since he's failed to stop anyone but Zoro.

>>88738

Well spotted.

>>88738
Yes, that was what he was implying

>>88732
While it's true that it was done partly to make him beatable look at it through Pica's point of view. He seems to be a very no-nonsense guy, insisting to Dofla that they directly attack Luffy/Law instead of waiting for them to get there.

So yes, he could just keep on regenerating his stone giant and slowly attack them again and again, but any attack of Pica's would be as innefectual as Luffy's or Don Chinjao's so it makes sense for him to want to just stop screwing around and attack Luffy directly with a big ass sword since that's his rubber body main weakness and be done with it fast.
So it's not only about giving Zoro another sword fight. And he can still use more stones along with his direct attacks.

>>88700
I dunno! There's every chance Bellamy's gonna pull a Sanji here and pop up super unexpectedly and help save the day.

It's not super likely, but not entirely outside the realm of possibility.

Guys

Guys

Pica is literally a stonecutter

>WHO ROBS CAVE FISH OF THEIR SIGHT? WHO RIGS EVERY OSCAR NIGHT?

>>88736

"It" as in merging the WSJ threads into one.

>>88747
He is also a soprano bastard.

>>88744
>so it makes sense for him to want to just stop screwing around and attack Luffy directly with a big ass sword since that's his rubber body main weakness and be done with it fast.

Uhh, isn't Luffy immune to swords now because of Haki?

Personally I find Pica having a big sword and revealing his true body to be dumb and terrible, but what are ya gonna do we gotta get past this mid-boss somehow.

>>88754
More immune because Luffy's really fast and some fat fuck like Pica has no chance of landing a sword slash. By making himself a target he's lucky Luffy doesn't feel like crushing him letting them all just move past instead of doing this classic shonen/one piece one-on-one stuff.

>>88752
Now if Kishi would only go to this effort with his writing~

>>88752
The Hanabi design is legit. As was that chapter.

If only it didn't make me depressed when contrasting against the original recipe.

>>88754
No, he's not "immune", his devil fruit powers still apply just as usual. Like the Hody fight illustrated, hardening haki does offer a lot of defense but it doesn't take away that weakness, since despise Luffy's haki being very strong it still wasn't enough at that level to stop Hody's steroid-powered bite to wound Luffy deeply enough to put his life at risk from the blood loss.

I don't think Pika attacking personally is dumb and terrible. I don't think he's retarded battle-wise and he probably feels confident enough about his own stamina and the power of his attacks to think he can hurt Luffy more effectively that way than with his stone giant, which would just be a constant cycle of it being destroyed and then regenerated. He's definitely not afraid of receiving a Grizzly Magnum or Don Chinjao's drilling head himself.

Plot-wise sure, they have to pass him to make his fight be one-on-one and don't drag the pace more but it's far from terrible. I think that from what we have seen of Pica, his actions make sense to the way he seems to think and it's not a bad desicion fight-wise except for understimating Luffy's speed.

Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods …
A theater run? Interesting.

>>88765
How big?

>>88766

Not very. The typical kind of limited theatrical run that Funimation does for big-name movies like the Rebuild of Evangelion series.

>>88764

You say that like you DON'T want to see Tsugami in a bunny girl outfit.

It's been too long. I have no fucking idea what's even going on in HxH.

>>88793
I'm not sure I'd know what the fuck's going on even if I'd just read the rest last week. There's so much politics it's making my head spin.

>>88793

It's not just that it's been too long, it's also stupid complicated and incredibly bogged down in WHO THE FUCK CARES politics.

>>88792

I guess it MUST be aliens because otherwise who the hell is she going to be using these White Zetsu soldiers against?

Also is anyone else getting a serious end-of-Kill la Kill vibe off of this whole setup?

Holy shit this thread is a clusterfuck.

Is Luffy immune to Hanabi's politics? I can't understand why HxH's Kaguya is at the end of Kill la Kill.

Also, Pariston's 5000 Chimera Ant soldiers are totally going to be White Zetsus.

Huh, in the sketch version of the Naruto coverpic, the characters are actually all pretty distinguishable by their facial features.
Maybe it's Kishimoto's assistants that ruin everything, not the guy himself.

Also I'd do Kaguya.

>>88823
I guess we'll learn everything when it's all said and done. Either that or he'll take it to his grave.

>>88832
Of course he would only need one hand to control.

>>88842

I might like that manga more if it didn't feel like reading a transcript of somebody's therapy session. Every line of dialogue is either a character going on about how they feel about family friendship etc etc etc, or else an invitation for another character to do so.

>>88843
That's just what you talk about in a post-apocalyptic world that killed off mostly adults

So is Sasuke burring Sakura and Kakashi supposed to be a sign that he's the final boss or is Kishi just a hack?

I don't have a goddamn clue what the hells even happening in Naruto anymore. It's just a clusterfuck of random things happening with no rhyme or reason to any of it. It's like Kishi had a fever dream about his own manga and decided, hell with it, that's where the stories gonna go because the storage locker where I keep all my fucks to give is now completely empty.

I'm beginning to think Pariston's nen really DOES involve talking people to death.

No! Not THAT jutsu!

Seriously, is this any better in its native language? It just seems like a cheap and corny way to make a cliffhanger.

>>88923

Well, it's still a corny way to make a cliffhanger, but it doesn't sound as incredibly unnatural.

>>88922
*crosses fingers*
Please be Sexy! Please be Sexy! Please be Sexy!

You know Ms. Rabbit/Demon mom is a halfway decent design. Too bad it's been wasted.

It may not be the best storytelling technique to introduce the REAL MAIN villain of your (currently) 681 chapters long story in chapter 675 with literally no foreshadowing of any kind whatsoever, then expect us to give a shit as you then cram all of that characters back story and motivation into three chapters of expository dialogue.

I'm going to go out an a limb here and suggest that *gasp* Kishi just might be making this up as he goes along.

>>88933

Maybe not completely as he goes along but it's a pretty safe bet he didn't come up with this any later than winter of last year.

http://pikabot.tumblr.com/post/87825972785/uhhhhhh-i-guess-we-know-what-kishimoto-was

DBH | Dragon Ball Heroes Jakka…
I like how the actual plot of GT is so boring that the promotional videos only address it in the last few seconds.

>>88942

This shit has taken a turn.

That's the "My Manga's ending better put everything in at once" turn.

Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods …

>>88933

He's robably not even the real main villain. The "Villain Ball" keeps getting tossed to someone else.

First we had Orochimaru.
Then we find out that he is only a (former) member of Akatsuki.
Then we find out Akatsuki is controlled by Pain.
Who is really just a dead body controlled by Nagato.
Who is being manipulated by Madara.
Who is actually just Obito.
Who is being manipulated by the real Madara.
Who is being backstabbed by Obito.
Who is being overruled by Madara.
Who is being manipulated by Black Zetsu.
Who is really just being controlled by Kaguya via parental love if you think about it.
And basically EVERYONE is being controlled by fate or destiny or God or whatever.

Which is controlled by this jackass we call Kishimoto.


(Also, I'm fairly sure he hasn't really planned anything after the Pain arc. Everything made perfect sense up until then if it didn't involve Sasuke.)

HunterXHunter.

So we had several more pages of talking about boring crap that nobody cares about. There were some interesting things, though.

Mizai seems to think Kurapika will actually be useful. Maybe the Prince is somehow connected to the Ryodan?
HOLY SHIT GON CAN'T USE NEN ANYMORE!!
Random new Zoldyck member, possibly Zeno's father/Maha's son.
And apparently Ging's/Gon's ancestor is a centuries-old badass soloing the Dark Continent.

>>88963
Wait, why is this a problem? That's super in keeping with what Ace was able to do with it.

Ace blew up a couple of ships of fodder, thats not really the same thing as holding off an Admiral and his boys solo? I guess its kind of weak Sabo becoming the new Fire Fist so quickly when it used to be mentioned alot that Logia abilities were something that took a long time to master. (I only saw the pages in threads in passing myself, I've kind of grown tired of OP)

If yo are tired of it why care? Ace is number 2 to Dragon, he could probably have done that pre-devil fruit.

>>88965
He's holding off some important troops, but you can see in the panel that Basille and Fujitora haven't actually done anything yet. He's talking big, but if he doesn't come up with something insanely clever that kid is in trouble.

>>88965
>Logia abilities were something that took a long time to master.
Yeah, but it's also canon that Devil Fruit powers are just as powerful on Day One as they are after decades of experience. Having a long time with them gives you expertise, and creative uses of those powers, but it doesn't make you even a little bit stronger. Oda has confirmed as much.

So yeah, Sabo is exactly as powerful as Ace ever was right now.

>>88966
Why so defensive? I wasn't the guy that posted the megaman reaction image I was just giving my two cents on what people were talking about.

>>88969
Remember how useless Luffy was with the Gomu fruit when he first had it?
Plus... because of power-creep Ace has started to look pretty substandard since the timeskip. If anything Sabo is just going to make him look like a chump once he really gets going.

>>88970
I'm not being defensive, Sabo is just kind of big deal, I mean so are they but it's pretty in keeping for the second in command of the biggest threat to the world government.

>>88970
>Remember how useless Luffy was with the Gomu fruit when he first had it?

Remember how badass Kaku was even right after having eaten the Ushi Ushi fruit though? And that's without him having any former user of the Ushi Ushi fruit for him to have observed / heard stories about when coming up with his ways of using it.

Luffy was an idiot and a child, albeit a tough child.

>>88970
>Remember how useless Luffy was with the Gomu fruit when he first had it?

Yeah, cause he was a kid and had no idea how to use his power. Sabo has likely had extensive contact (both friendly and not) with logia users for some time, thus having some idea of how to handle things.

Also Enel probably wouldn't have been able to electrocute kid Luffy.

This is more of an issue of basic storytelling. The majority of the audience has no reason to care about Sabo. Think of this scene and how it would be if one of the Strawhats, or really even one of the characters that have been developed more than Sabo has, were the ones holding the Marines at bay. If you've noticed many people feel he's been "forced" into the story. He isn't mentioned until after Ace dies (The crossed out "S" is super anemic as far as setup goes). It's just like, oh Luffy had this OTHER "brother" that hasn't been mentioned until now and he's super awesome and please care about him please here he is doing bad ass things please like him. It doesn't help matters that he's had any kind of personality seemingly sandblasted away in a series that lives and dies on its quirky characters (even Law for all the shit Jim gave him had more personality than this plank of wood). As such he's an Eleventh Hour Ranger without the sort of charisma or charm necessary to fulfill the role.

>>88970
Luffy was useless with the Gum Gum Fruit because being rubber isn't necessarily an amazing power and he didn't really know how to fight yet. Kaku wasn't an immediate badass with the Horse Horse Fruit, and the whole fight he was learning how to control himself. So far, Sabo's been having trouble controlling it too: he's just already strong so he doesn't need that much control to use it well.

Also really all of Luffy's family was introduced this haphazardly, Ace was honestly put up as even more important and badass when he first appeared with literally no indication beforehand. Sabo's not amazing as a character, but as a rep for the Revolutionary Army he's alright.

Can someone who was introduced in in the chapter ~500s in a currently chapter ~700s series that has all but been confirmed to last until the chapter ~1000s really be called an "Eleventh Hour Ranger"? I'm getting a bit tired of people's complete lack of perspective when it comes to this series. There is a difference between "I don't like this character" and "This character's introduction was poor writing." Barto wasn't actually in the crowd during Loguetown but nobody complains about HIM being "forced into the story" or whatever.

>>88974
>If you've noticed many people feel he's been "forced" into the story.
Irrelevant. This is the internet. 90% of the population on the internet is fifteen year olds who think they're writers making criticisms and suggestions about how stories should be changed that make anyone with even a passing knowledge of story structure or criticism to laugh their asses off.

What you're doing right here, for example, is focusing on tangible details--you are focusing on Sabo as a reason to complain, when he's not the issue. Your actual issue is that the story has been going on too long and your tastes have changed since when you started reading. But absent the perspective necessary to understand that's what's going on, you look for something you can grasp onto of as your reason for why things have changed for you, and settle on Sabo.

The storytelling in One Piece has not really changed at all from how it was in the beginning. If you have a problem with it now, it's not because it's getting worse--it's because you are no longer interested in that style of storytelling.

>>88980
Naruto and Bleach got worse, its possible for One Piece to have a decrease in quality too.
The difference would be you're a bigger fan of One Piece so you're quicker to find an excuse to deny anything like that.

Sabo could use a personality.

>>88980
>>88981
I would say OP's changed its storytelling a bit since the beginning, although I don't agree it's for the worse. Sabo isn't that much less notable than Dalton or Gan Fall or Came. All he really needs is a joke, and he's set. He's even got personality, all he's missing is a gag. You can't be in OP without a gag and be beloved.

>>88981
The difference is, I think, that Naruto and Bleach "jumped" super early on; Bleach after the first Soul Society arc (or even just going to SS), and Naruto when Sasuke runs away. One Piece has gone far longer and not hit a point where it starts to incessantly focus on one or two characters for extreme stretches, which is where Naruto and Bleach went wrong.

>>88968
I think Bartolomeo is going to run into them and help Sabo out. With his barriers this is more doable.

But yeah, while some parts of One Piece story telling have changed, many others remain the same or still pretty similar. Ace's introduction was also a bit 'out of nowhere'.
And yes, Sabo does have a personality even if so far it's kinda bland. As a kid he was the understanding and supportive older brother and also a free spirit like the other two. You can also see that while he loathed his noble upbringing he liked showing good manners. Sabo might seem too similar to Ace's personality but that's because Ace deliberately wanted to change his violent/aggresive behavior after Luffy came in probably taking after Sabo and maybe even wanting to take the supportive older brother role he had going, and that's the Ace that got the most screen time and what people are familiar with.
Also, Barto's extreme fanboyism really pisses him off.

So yeah, he's only missing a gag.

Only one thing to say about this issue Wall of Dicks no Jutsu

In summary.

I never expected Naruto to even consider reusing the sexy no jutsu, but he did. That was a brief moment of levity.

Looks like Sabo might be a little bit nuts.

I literally flipped through Bleach in about 2 minutes tops.

>>88992
Sabo's pretty draconic, even for a kid with a dragon theme. Didn't expect him to be so vicious, even without Ace or Luffy's temper.

>>88983
You were saying?

>>88994

Not him, but Sabo could use an INTERESTING personality I would actually enjoy reading about.

I liked the summoning of the meteor and it getting sliced up, the apologizing after it did all that damage. Issho is great, a fantastic character. However, Sabo himself feels like a black hole of charisma, and I am enjoying this arc less and less the more he is in it. Thankfully we got God Usopp out of the arc, though.

I hope Sabo is evil. Talking about cracking human skulls like eggshells is a little too off for a normal person.

>>88994
I wasn't one of the ones against him?

>>88996
It would be an interesting dynamic seeing long lost brothers clash over different ideals.

>No! Not THAT jutsu!

>*crosses fingers*
>Please be Sexy! Please be Sexy! Please be Sexy!

I don't know how you guessed... but you called it! And damn, Naruto has good taste in men :D~

And it totally fucking wasted Kaguya! You know, for just a few seconds until she... summoned an ice world and froze them solid because whatever... but for a few seconds it actually freaking worked!

Also I just realized something. Sasuke now has the rear-veiw of That Jutsu ingrained in his brain for all time.

>>89001

You can even see that fact in his reaction face, it's great.

>>89000
Wow, they really did it? It feels so weird to have even a little bit of respect for Naruto again.

From /a/:
>Kaguya immediately makes an ice world in reaction
>the terraformer's equivalent to taking a cold shower

>>89049
I'd be perfectly happy if Kubo and Kishimoto started doing gag manga when they finally end their trainwrecks.

Meanwhile in Naruto:

Sakura will be useful again! But only as a chakra battery to power Obito's... Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Spacey Kamui Jutsu, being literally only as important as one of Naruto's shadow clones. Just brilliant, Kishimoto.

Hagarumo, aka The Ninja Formerly Known as Sage, continues to randomly and inexplicably appear before anyone who needs some exposition. This time it's the Four Hokage.

An Edo-tensei-ed Tobirama considers reviving Madara with Edo Tensei if he's actually dead. Yo dawg, we heard you liked Edo Tensei...

Sasuke is wandering alone in an interdimesional desert, and although it must feel good to be out of the rain, pretty soon he will remember his name 'cause there ain't no one for to give him no pain.

His hopes of being in an infinite dreamworld fondling Rin's perfect breasts having been dashed, Obito decides to go back to being a good guy instead of just... I dunno, hooking himself up to one of those mind-trees? I can't remember why that didn't happen to him already. The only reason Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, and Kakashi managed to avoid it was because they hid under Sasuke's Susanoo. Where was Obito at that time?? Fuck, I forgot completely.

Also, if the Infinite Tsukiyomi is a world where your dreams come true, what's stopping Shikamaru from teaming up with Captain Kirk and then using it to go back in time to before Doctor Ikari destroyed the Enterprise by activating Instrumentality?

>>89049
Rukia is to Bleach what Rock Lee is to Naruto.

ie a more interesting protagonist who would thrive in a better-written story.

>>88752
Huh, I wanted to post that today but it has been up for ages.
Wonder what else I have been missin
>>88991
!!!

>>89109

Meanwhile, there's lots more talking in HunterxHunter, and Ging continues to pack on the hype by besting everyone in literally every contest they can think of, from fine nen control to word games in obscure languages. Also, some scrubs started making trouble in the neighborhood, so he and Pariston are going to fuck them up.

Maybe we'll finally get to see them use their hatsu? Haha, lolno.

>>89113
Ging's been hyped up so much I don't even care anymore. He and Pariston are just going to keep one-upping each other for another hundred chapters before they do goddamned anything.

Boy this war is just going in all sorts of little directions. The coliseum combatants are getting way more important than I thought they'd be.

I wasn't expecting it to come out this early.

>>89158
I know. I like it, and to think someone was complaining about Oda making all these cool but throw away characters.

>>89162
To hell with that rot Deon.

We all know you are the #1 DBZ fanboy of the board but this was obviously coming with the "reveals" of the previous movie.

DBZ is at the same level of quality as Naruto but it came beforehand with nostalgia being much stronger when we had watched it as kids.

>>89163

>DBZ is at the same level of quality as Naruto

No, that's not a fair thing to say at all...well, it's not fair to say about the manga, anyway. Toriyama has technical chops Kishimoto can only tearfully dream of, and although his storytelling is almost as much of a mess, it also takes itself much less seriously so it matters less that it's a mess. Even when Toriyama was actively trying to make people hate it so he could quit, he still wound up producing a far better manga than Naruto.

Yeah, especially when you take into account early Dragon Ball.

>Even when Toriyama was actively trying to make people hate it so he could quit

That's a freaking myth. Anything you've heard about Toriyama wanting to end Dragonball after the Frieza arc, or after the Cell arc, or anywhere else is a myth. Anything you've heard about the fans pressuring him to bring Goku back is a myth. The only things his editors did was give suggestions, where he then did stuff on his own. Stuff like "You know those Androids are kinda pathetic" to which he responded "You're right. I should make a new group of much more badass Androids." He decided completely on his own that Gohan just wasn't the fighting type and so had Goku defeat Buu.

The fact that Goku saves the world and does everything in absolutely every arc and movie has nothing to do with the fans, it's all Toriyama being in love with Goku.


>Yeah, especially when you take into account early Dragon Ball.

That's not fair. Naruto was exceptionally good in the very beginning, too. The difference is that most people agree Dragonball "peaked" in the Cell saga, while Naruto has been going steadily downhill since the freaking Chuunin Exams.

(And for the record, I hated Battle of Gods. The animation was crap, the fight was crap, the humor was okay, Super Saiyan God was utter crap, and Trunks and Goten evidently got stuck in a time-warp where they've aged four years since Buu yet ended up looking even younger. It's the only Dragonball movie, special, OVA, or episode [and that INCLUDES GT!] that I literally only watched once and then said "Never again.")

>>89169
No, early dragonball just shows how much shittier z got.

>>89176
Battle of gods and super saiyan god form really were just awful. Its as bad as like that bleach movie where ichigo goes to hell and gains a hell boner form.

>>89166
So, both of them are back? On ridiculous outfits?
Are they useful this time?

>>89178
Yeah. Tittymonster now wears an outfit that gives free access for tittyfucks, she is now actually worth having around

>>89179
It can be assumed that Chad has also become worth as well, right?

>>89180
Eh, his titties are okay.

>>89166
Is this an actual page? Holy jesus even the art quality on the people has taken a severe nosedive.

>>89182
trying too hard there

So how's One Piece been?

>>89184
Pretty good. It's been hurt by the constant breaks, but it's been good with all the Coliseum participants becoming an army under Eggman.

Better than pretty much anything else from Jump like usual, even if it has been fairly drawn out lately

I miss the old OP board, if plus4chan wasn't run like shit with a couple of really long down periods mixed with nearly constant posting issues which wiped out a lot of regulars than it may have survived

>>89186
Agreed, though OP's regular breaks meant posting would have dried up anyway, albeit not as fast.

>>89186
One piece fans are the worst, I know this from someone who reads One Piece.

The board devolving into no-content shitposting was going to happen eventually.

He tried to fit in as much as possible but in the end I guess we'll never know.

>>89190
'Twasn't shitposting that brought down the board, simply low post rate.

Yeah, the only person you could even call a shitposter (really though, he was just overall obnoxious and overtly opinionated at worst) doesn't even seem to be around anymore.

For some reason I don't really care about OP anymore. It might be the breaks or it might be that you guys are pretty much all gone but sometimes thursday or friday comes up and I realize there was a chapter I didn't read. Honestly it's a bit sad.

>>89215
Too bad he doesn't spend any of that time writing a passable plot.

>>89216

Fairy Tail's plot is a very special kind of forgettable where it has JUST ENOUGH detail to make sense in the very short term but you won't remember anything for more than 3 chapters so plot holes don't matter.

Boobies though. Guys. Boobies though.
Also, Fairy Tail's not Jump.

Imagine how horrible you'd feel if you managed to get Kanjuro's devil fruit but were even worse at drawing than he is.

>>89244
Is he even using a Devil Fruit? It seems a little ambiguous.

>>89245
It's better to signify how much more of a monster s/he is.

It's nice to see Naruto using the same trick that has bested every opponent he's faced. "Ah yes, he's got a bunch of clones that are obviously protecting the one in the middle. That one is the REAL Naruto!" and then of course it turns out that one is also a clone, which leaves them open for counterattack. Classic Naruto before all the hax.

I called it like ten chapters ago that Kakashi was going to pull a Heroic Sacrifice, but Obito totally cockblocked him on that. I laughed. Why would Obito die of a silly stomach wound, anyway?? Everyone knows that the only way to die in Naruto is to have your heart destroyed.

Whatever. Still waiting for this manga to end already.

>>89250
Oh but It's not over yet. We still got the movie epilogue coming.

>delicious brown girl trying to rape a hypersexual crossdressing shota
If nothing else, Kubo knows his audience.

She's not brown though. She's a zombie. So she's probably green or blue or something.

>>89250
I'm still waiting for Naruto realizes he can't copy the orbs so he has them floating behind another clone.

>>89256

That's exactly what just happened.

So the kids fucked up super bad in Assassination Classroom.

Franky vs Senor Pink fight: Manliness turned up to 12

>>89282
You know as soon a Gigi dies everything will reset.
>>89283
Smile Boss for Strawhat.

>>89282
I liked that this happen at the same time as the publication of the character popularity chart.
Also I'm pretty sure he's gonna get free of it at some point, Kubo didn't milk his super nex bankai enough.