/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

>>422584
Snake is cool.
Its kind of fucked how Hideo treated him in mgs4, and that was after his staff revolted and forced him to tone down the downer ending he originally planned with Snake and Otocon being tried and executed by the government for terrorism.

As for Francis York Morgan its a shame DP2 wasn't as good as DP1.
Just trying too hard to capture lightning in a bottle and it came off as really forced.

>>422585
I still have no clue why that skateboarding minigame was included. It's kinda funny though.
>Its kind of fucked how Hideo treated him in mgs4, and that was after his staff revolted and forced him to tone down the downer ending he originally planned with Snake and Otocon being tried and executed by the government for terrorism.
I'd agree but I did like how MGS4 concluded his story and relationships with people, even if bringing Big Boss back was the most contrived shit imaginable. I thought Raiden was done a lot worse with Rose and Campbell lying and manipulating him like that.
>As for Francis York Morgan its a shame DP2 wasn't as good as DP1.
>Just trying too hard to capture lightning in a bottle and it came off as really forced.
This I completely agree with. Him and Patricia were the only good things about DP2. The rest of it just made me want to play the first game instead. Does anybody know how the PC port turned out? It ran like shit on Switch even after the patch to improve the frame rate.

Harry DuBois of Disco Elysium is a character that is liked by many very much because he's so fucked up and broken as a person and/or because they find his antics funny. Also because of the many voices in his head that contribute to the prior.

>>422587
>>422584
Sort of like York seeing as they are both investigators but much more dysfunctional and depressing.

>I thought Raiden was done a lot worse with Rose and Campbell lying and manipulating him like that
The writing of metal gear solid 4 is pretty terrible.

How was Campbell taking Rose and her son in to protect them by pretending as if he was the boy's genetic father supposed to fool anyone who saw them?

The kid is a mini-clone of Raiden with his unnatural anime silver hair, they couldn't have even tried using dye or something to make the ruse more convincing?

>>422588
I need to get around to playing Disco Elysium. I've heard it be compared to Planescape: Torment which I love, so I shoudl play it soon. A friend of mine got me it as a Christmas gift last year but I still haven't played it due to IRL shit and playing other games like The Witcher and getting back into Yakuza.
Kiryu is another one of my favorite characters after playing Yakuza 5. I like his melancholic taxi driver version, but he's great in all of the games.
>>422589
I'm convinced that was just hastily thrown together so everyone gets a happy ending. It's so dumb and makes practically no sense. Raiden should've just told Rose to fuck off after pulling something like that.

I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything.

Zagreus has particularly good voice acting, that along with the game/writing being high quality makes him a joy to play as and cause you to really empathize with his quest for freedom.

Like he is witty in his repartee with bosses and other cast members but has an emotional sincerity that avoids falling into the pitfalls of being a sarcastic wanker like can often happen in modern media because writers are hacks. That's one particularly point I'm thankful for.

I'm all for multi-dimensional characters, but a one-dimensional character who's an absolute gem of a character is just as good as any deep character. Best examples of this are Gene from God Hand, Duke Nukem, and the King of All Cosmos.

>>422612
He was considered for Marvel vs. Capcom 3, but Amaterasu was chosen over him, which I guess makes sense since Okami was more successful once the Wii port released, but Gene was tailor-made for a fighting game like MvC or even Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. I mean they probably could've chosen both or have Gene in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Maybe it was because having both Gene and Vergil in the game would cause the world to explode under their power.

Eli is underrated as all hell. Sure he doesn't have much screen time in Half-Life 2 and the episodes, but he's such a chill motherfucker that I always enjoyed any part with him. Robert Guillaume also killed it with that raspy voice. Real shame he died before Half-Life Alyx released, but also he was already in his 70s when he voiced Eli so who knows if he would've voiced him in Alyx.

On the topic of Valve, will any ensemble cast in a game beat these chucklefucks? They're all terrific and bring so much charm and personality to the game. The Meet the Team shorts are also the best promo material for any game.

Michael Wilson is the best.

And the reason is...

BECAUSE HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

Metal Wolf Chaos XD - Not Over Yet, because I'm The President of the United States

>>422651
Could any game character beat Michael Wilson? He is the president of the United States of America. Only contender I see is the King.

>>422587
>even if bringing Big Boss back was the most contrived shit imaginable
Big Boss should have died and stayed dead in MG2.

So only an American president can only beat Michael Wilson? In that case, could Michael Wilson win in a fight against NBA Jam's Bill Clinton?

We've talked about heroes in this thread, but what about the villains? You guys have any favorite villains? Mine is either Rando or Revolver Ocelot.

>>422710
I'd agree on that. I liked Liquid Ocelot's personality in that but they took the mastermind aspect of his to a dumb extreme. The thing about him not actually being possessed by Liquid despite MGS3 giving a reason why that could actually happen is also dumb as shit. I liked him the most in MGS3 where he's this dumb rookie trying to act cool. Every time he appeared it was amazing.

>>422716
Yes they've confirmed that Ichiban will be the protagonist from here on out. Kiryu is in Yakuza 7 but as a supporting character that doesn't get a lot of screen time. Honestly I don't think he should appear again now that he's not the protagonist. It felt like they brought him back just as fanservice. His character is completed so he shouldn't appear again. What I want most from Yakuza 8 is for these two chucklefucks to come back.

>>422637

I like the Courier from New Vegas, in part specifically because they are just a dude doing a job with no attachments in their life unlike say the MCs from 3 or 4 who have the WORST family stories hamfistedly forced onto them and making up the primary plots of their games.

What do you know about the Courier? They deliver packages and once in passing delivered one to a place called the Divide, that's about it for their set-in-stone history.
It doesn't force a spouse and child on you that you (the player) don't give a fuck about and try to tell you how much you care about tracking down your son.

Getting shot in the head then needed to track down the sunnovabitch who stole the package that was in your professional care? That's an objective in life anyone can get behind.
Also a bonus in that they are a Fallout protagonist that wasn't a vault dweller, that's always nice.

>>422772
The Courier was a really well done protagonist. I agree with all your points. I really like the Jedi Exile as well. They have a defined backstory but you help create it through your interactions with characters instead of having all of it thrust on to you early on. Just ignore TOR and the Revan book.

>>422584
I actually liked Raiden more in his original appearance rather than how they later turned him into an edgy animu cyborg ninja waving his katana around and somehow cutting giant robots in half.

And saying a HF Blade is superior because its made from an old katana rather than one purpose-built with modern materials was such retarded cultural posturing.

>>422838
I'm with you on that. He felt very defined and unique in MGS2, and has a great character arc. I just found him boring in both MGS4 and MGR. It felt like they didn't know what to do with his character in either game, and in MGR he gets upstaged and overshadowed by the villains, who are more interesting and fun than him.
>And saying a HF Blade is superior because its made from an old katana rather than one purpose-built with modern materials was such retarded cultural posturing.
I think saying Jack the Ripper is actually an alternate personality for Raiden rather than just a nickname was even more retarded. It felt like they needed a reason to justify the Ripper Mode mechanic but had to make one up right on the spot. Honestly the only thing I liked about the story in MGR was the villains cause everyone else is just really dull.

I love Wario for his comedic value. Dude is dripping with personality. I like how it shows in his games too, like how you can't die in them cause he doesn't care enough to die, and how most of his power-ups are just him deforming his body in some way.

>>422678
What was the logic behind the choice of secret characters you could unlock in the NBA JAM games

>>422920
1. whoever was cool,
2. whoever the authors could get the rights to. There's a youtube video about the history of the game that should explain it. They had a lot of Mortal Kombat characters (and even more of the staff) in the game too, because they both worked on Acclaim and maybe on NBA Jam too I forgot.

Even Steve Snake was in the game, in one of the ports anyway.

>>422651
>>422678
Forget about Michael Wilson and NBA Jam Bill Clinton, the greatest president in any game is Howard T. Ackerman.
Ackerman on Attack Ads
Ackerman on illegal immigration

>>422957
Ackerman was a life model decoy remote controlled by the Japanese Emperor.

The best president, I mean comrade premier, was Anatoly Cherdenko.
Tim Curry is escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.

>>422958
Get outta here, commie scum. We'll have none of your communism corrupting the American people once we shove a nuke up your ass.

>>422959
>once we shove a nuke up your ass.
Sounds like someone is compensating.

>>422987
Based giant robot bro

>>422922
Are you saying Prince Charles is cool?

>>422591

I like Biker way more than Jacket in Hotline Miami.
He's just way cooler in design as well as the fact he has personality, instead of being a mute psychopath he comes off as a (violent) professional in his hits.
Doesn't hurt that when playing as him its possible to get to the bottom of everything by figuring out the password for the computer (albiet via meta-methods)

>>423093
I still need to get around to Hotline Miami. It seems really fun and up my alley.

>>422710
>even beating the guy to death in an old man slapfight on top of his base

>>423250
That's probably the most likely thing that'll happen. His parts in LAD weren't too bad with him passing the torch to Ichiban, but there's no reason to bring him back. I think the only past protagonist that should come back should be Shinada since he would play off Ichiban well, plus he has basically no connection to the Tojo Clan, which fits LAD's ending of Ichiban turning down Daigo's offer of joining a security firm run by ex-Tojo members.

I like Sundowner, he's an entertaining villain

>>423314

>>423319

>>423384
Paul Radd

>>422863
Wario is fantastic

Don't have anything in-depth to say but Cain the french commando machine is amongst the best Robot Buddy characters ever as one of your squadmates in Binary Domain.
He's just so cool.

>>423384
Haruka.
Snake, It's My Turn to Protect You

>>423265

>>422591
John Halo was cooler before they dragged out his franchise with increasingly terrible video game sequels, and a fucking awful live action series.

>>422587
>>422584
What is The Good Life and its protagonist like, as the latest Swery game?

Is it similarly weird? Its another small town with an outsider PC wandering into it and getting involved in supernatural events, though in this case a town in England instead of America.

>>422863
>>423429
Should Waluigi ever be made 'canon' and actually hang out or interact with Wario? Or should he remain consigned to the sports game dimension?

Just completed Just Cause 3, was fun but the open world sort of runs out of steam toward the end.
Rico Rodriguez is your standard cool action movie hero of the hispanic sub-variety.
At the very least he stands out more than generic shaved head and stubble scowling space marine you see in various forgettable shooters and action games.

Though the games are a little inconsistent, not only in Rico's character design but also somewhat in terms of their overall tone.

>>422585
>>422587

Tony Hawk is my favourite fictional character from videogames.

They need to get a new actor to portray him at events though. The old guy they've currently got filling the role is pretty past-it.

HENSHIN-A-GO-GO-BABY!

>>423903
Praise the Gods, prayers have been answered.
Hades 2 Reveal Trailer | The Game Awards 2022

>>424221
Better image

Do we ever get even a hint at what happened to the original Megaman (or indeed any of the major Light robots I suppose) after his games and before X wakes up

>>424430

>>424311
Which is the better Megaman.

Megaman the Elder or Megaman the Younger.

>>424493
I like Mega Man forma treasure hunter the most

>named Megaman Trigger
>because he will pull the Trigger on any Nigger that tries to get in the way of his Grind
Cash Money~~

Joshua Graham was so much cooler than Ulysses.

I can't believe Sonic the Hedgehog is fucking dead

Sheva was a cool RE player character, its a shame she vanished into the void and never made another appearance.

When they invariably remake 5 like they are doing with all the other games I hope she's treated well, and not like Jill was in the remake of 3 (though speaking of that Blonde Jill in 5 is one of the worst parts of that game)

>>424667

Gene from Godhand is cooler than any of those other character action losers like Bayonetta or the cast of Devil May Cry.

Talking about Gene would have been cool had he been one of the cameo secret unlockable characters (like Bayo, Jeanne & Rodin) in W101, Wonder-Godhand.

>>425122
Wario and Waluigi obviously replacing Mario and Luigi, Syrup could take the princess slot as the girl character even though she's more Wario's rival than anything. What would fit the Toad/Yoshi slot as the mascot-style character of the team?

Bushido Blade was a pretty hilarious game.
It was a fighting game with swords (plus like a sledgehammer and a spear) where if you hit people in a limb it would disable it and if you hit them properly you could one-hit kill your opponent.

The funny part was the first game had a boss with a revolver, and the second game then included another character who used an M16... in a game where people fight with melee weapons that features instant kills.

Hitmandude is a cool guy. Also now whenever I hear Ave Maria I think of the series.
Ave Maria (8-Bit)

>>424311
In the Gameboy games, Wily time-travels far into the future where he finally gave up and Rock was turned entirely back into a helper robot. Wily steals future Rock and remodels him into Quint. Quint presumably gets destroyed by the time of MM(, because he doesn't show up when you have a rematch with the rest of the Megaman Killers.

So Megaman isn't around because Wily stole him and turned him into a worse robot.

>>422800
>Abdel Adrian

>>425280
>>424311
Presumably Protoman breaks down at some point due to being a Loner and a faulty prototype, the patchwork repairs he receives from working for Wily etc only extending the inevitable.

HUNK is the coolest Resi character.
The cast of Operation Racoon City are okay (though the game itself is pretty shitty) but they are just trying too hard to directly capture the same appeal, its a bit too 'forced' and diluted.

>The Lightning American
Lt Surge is the coolest Gym Master because he's actually fought in wars y'know.

Specifically the war that took place abroad in a region that has only recently been declassified...

Ike is the man.
He stands out strongly against the classical FE leads in being manlier and not a nobleman/royal with a magical eugenics super bloodline giving him superpowers. Still manages to dominate.

You have other Fire Emblem main characters like the later Byleth who also happens to be a humble mercenary badass rather than a noble, but their origins aren't quite so mundane and they have a less defined personality (with the fact they are inhumanly stoic like Avatar MCs are in videogames actually being a plot point)

>>425375
>>425417

Just completed Psychonauts 2, reminded me Raz is a pretty cool kid. Good player character and have enjoyed following his story.
Not a huge fan of Double Fine anymore but Psychonauts 1/2 are solid games, the characters can be charming in how they are expressed.

>>426132
Protoman turns into such a cliche anime jobber supporting character towards the end of the series. Megaman & Bass he ends up wrecked twice; first getting one-shot to show off what a badass the new enemy King is then again when he blows himself up to shoot King super hard so his shield is broken and the player character can fight him for real.