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No.419440
Emulator/Rom ThreadAnonymous
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An important thing that must be remembered, since particular companies go out of their way to remove Roms from existence of games they will never go back to thus depriving people of a chance to experience them.

This goes double for games that were never translated and thus you only ever had a chance to play through fan-translation-patches.
Anyone have personal stories when it comes to that? Live A Live was mine, in the process became one of my favorite rpgs now.
https://fantasyanime.com/legacy2/live_about.htm

The ones behind the patching
http://agtp.romhack.net/

Feel free to talk/share about emulators overall, which ones you prefer, asking for technical help to get them running optimally or simply express oldfag nostalgia over the topic.
No.419441
Anonymous
Replies:>>419443
Swf:161106054306.swf(52kB, 550x400)manboobs.swf
Zophar has manboobs.

>>419440
>Anyone have personal stories when it comes to that?

I got as far as extracting text in some games I wanted to see translated, but I don't have the ability to do things like re-arrange script files to add translated text, or get around things like the compression it uses so I can only insert random stuff in RAM while the game is running. Shit is not as easy as one thinks, especially for older games that have script baked in to the game code.
No.419443
Anonymous
Replies:>>419445
>>419441
It seems a little late to be posting flash-based files.
Unless there's an emulator for it.
No.419445
Anonymous
>>419443
You can still download it and run it on the flash projector or even media player classic.
No.419448
Anonymous
Replies:>>419449
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There's one game I really wanted to emulate back in the day (Robot Alchemic Drive) because it never came out in Europe. But when I tried the thing was so slow and stuttering as to be unplayable. Wonder if it was a problem with my PC or a problem of emulation.
No.419449
Anonymous
>>419448
>PS2 game
You either used a toaster of a PC, or you misconfigured the emulator. I was playing PS2 games on emulators as far back as 2007 or so.
I remember the huge jump in speed when they made it multicore capable, after the first dual core Athlon 64 X2s came out; Disgaea finally ran at full speed.
No.419450
Anonymous
>>419449
I played other PS2 games on the same emulator but just RAD didn't work.
No.419455
Anonymous
>>419440
Metal Max Returns is another good SNES rpg from amongst them.

https://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=mmr
https://cdromance.com/snes-rom/metal-max-returns/
No.419497
Anonymous
What consoles do other people emulate? I've always stuck to the older ones.
No.419526
Anonymous
>>419497
yeah, same here, although apparently Xbox OG can be now emulated. That could be pretty neat.
No.419547
Anonymous
>>419440
>since particular companies go out of their way to remove Roms
theme of thread
As Nintendo I Forbid Emulation - /v/ The Musical VIyoutube thumb
No.419548
Mister Twister
>>419497
In the future I will emulate PS1, PS2, PSP and PS3. Right now however, I need to emulate none of those.
No.419549
Mister Twister
Replies:>>419712
>>419547
One day I will listen to the full /v/ The Musical.
No.419551
Anonymous
>>419547
I remember back when you could get peoples site deleted by forwarding legal complaints to the host about the Nintendo roms they hosted.
No.419603
Anonymous
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No.419712
Anonymous
>>419549
You might find that pretty difficult, they don't seem to have been stored in any ordered fashion?
No.420075
Anonymous
Its shameful how companies treat their consoles nowadays, when obsolescence is basically built-into the machine mechanically and via software to fuck over the customers when they've run their course.

Praise emulation!
No.420110
Anonymous
Replies:>>420227
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>>419497
No.420127
Anonymous
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>>419547
>>419551
Nintendo can blow me.
No.420227
Anonymous
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>>420110
like literally shaking fam
No.420272
Anonymous
Replies:>>420273
>>419449
Isn't it the case that there are some games that simply don't emulate well?

Or was this more a case when videogame emulators were in their infancy and was more a fault of the program.
No.420273
Anonymous
>>420272
>Isn't it the case that there are some games that simply don't emulate well?

That's inevitable given that the PS2 library is thousands of games, but as far as I know most titles already emulate perfect. Worst case is that you have to use software video modes, meaning no upscaling but in return much less video bugs.

N64 and Xbox emulators are the ones still shit, PS2 is near perfect by now.
No.420401
Anonymous
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>>420127
>>419547
No.420430
Anonymous
>>419440
Speaking of unusual old Japanese games that received fan translation patches as their only exposure in the West this rates

Grimbeard - Mizzurna Falls (PS1) - 100th Reviewyoutube thumb

>Deadly Premonitions before Deadly Premonitions
No.420435
Anonymous
Replies:>>420455
>>420273
And on this note, Xbox OG emulation seems to be progressing a lot nowadays, many games are now playable.
No.420455
Anonymous
Replies:>>420456
>>420435
Ps4 emulation is a thing now.
Though its still early days and in-development.
No.420456
Anonymous
>>420455
That's pretty cool actually.
Does that need to be emulated though? I'd guess it would only need some simulator/wrapper that handles the custom sony parts and then runs everything else natively. It's not like the OG Xbox where it uses pc derivative hardware parts - the AMD console SoCs were actually released on PC motherboards.
No.420733
Anonymous
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>>420430
Why was Nippon so into ripping off Twin Peaks in video game form?
No.421054
Anonymous
>>420127
It needs to be said again, fuck Nintendo.

Specifically because of the 3ds/Wii-U store going down; their anti-emulation fanaticism combined with their refusal to actually sell legacy content legitimately.
Literally the only way to get access to some stuff is piracy because they just won't let you p[ay them for it to begin with.
No.421153
Anonymous
Is Yuzu a good Switch emulator?
No.421380
Anonymous
Replies:>>421381
>>420273
>N64 and Xbox emulators are the ones still shit
Have an important question, is there a good Xbox 360 emulator?

Interested in tracking down a rom for a game I never got to play back in the day Operation Darkness, not sure what to do in terms of emulation for anything newer than a PS1.
No.421381
Anonymous
Replies:>>421425
>>421380
apparently there is one called Xenia which can play games well.
No.421425
Anonymous
>>421381
Seems like someone managed to get the game I want playing on Xenia, might be worth checking out
Xenia Canary c0244eab8 | Operation Darkness 4K UHD 60FPS FSR | Xbox 360 Emulator PC Gameplayyoutube thumb
No.421530
Anonymous
Replies:>>421536
Interesting emulator news.
https://twitter.com/trashbandatcoot/status/1516111117642252288

Basically a Switch dev kit was dumped and the files were posted onto 4Chan of a previously unknown GBA emulator developed by NERD. The emulator is named 'Sloop'.
No.421536
Anonymous
Replies:>>421537
>>421530
Interesting, but if it's just a GBA emulator, aren't there a dozen of those already?
No.421537
Anonymous
Replies:>>421539
>>421536
Its more everything surrounding this official bit of kit being dumped on 4chan and it seemingly being one designed specifically for the Switch that makes it worthy of attention.
No.421539
Anonymous
Replies:>>421549
>>421537
Were there any hardware documents in the leak?
No.421549
Anonymous
>>421539
Not that I've seen.
No.422233
Anonymous
>>420430
Found something similar to that recently.
Someone hacking a jap-only drama game to localize it for the west.
Sony's Aconcagua PS1 English Patch Releasing July 11thyoutube thumb
No.422535
Anonymous
Replies:>>423884
A group on Reddit has just released their Persona 2 Eternal Punishment PSP romhack to give it a translation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/w8rjrt/persona_2_eternal_punishment_psp_eng_release/

Seemed relevant to the thread topic.
No.422549
Anonymous
Replies:>>422550
re-played Metal Slug 3 on Mame. Couldn't even finish stage 2 from the first credit. It's been so long I played it, most likely because without autofire it's rather painful on my hand.

But I think Mame can set up autofire now? I should look into that.
No.422550
Anonymous
>>422549
also, score of 4.93 million, despite not really finishing any of the levels with POWs, only the first one.
Managed to beat the Aztec God boss without getting hit, so there's at least that.

I still need to 1cc metal slug 1 on survival mode on my Saturn, to get the highest rank in combat school mode, and unlock the dragon mode.
No.422930
Anonymous
Replies:>>423045
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Shadow Madness is up and available on Steam. But its just the ROM of the game being emulated through Bleem. Thus it is garbage.

What are other example of official game rereleases that are bad enough that you are much better off just tracking down the rom and emulating it yourself to play instead of buying it?
No.423045
Anonymous
>>422930
I'm noticing alot of old but just rereleased rpgs on Steam at the moment, possibility they suffer from the same issue.
No.423372
Anonymous
>>419551
>>420127
People in charge of Nintendo are so out of touch its insane.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Patterrz/status/1571446537531625472
No.423884
Anonymous
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>>422535
>Persona
Someone has started on a translation hack for Persona 1 (PS1).
No.423971
Anonymous
https://twitter.com/kandowontu/status/1590330701886689280

Rom hacker made their own modification of Star Fox.
Looks pretty cool.
No.424031
Anonymous
Replies:>>424070
Seems most relevant to post it here.
https://twistedvoxel.com/the-legend-of-dragoon-decompiled-disc-1-fully-playable-pc/
No.424070
Anonymous
>>424031
was The Legend of Dragoon a good rpg?
remember people saying it was just a cheap attempt to jump on the popularity that ff7 brought to the genre, much like Shadow Madness
No.424380
Anonymous
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Someone shared this translation over on 4chan's /vrpg/ and it actually looks like an interesting game.
>Private Eye Dol is a 1995 detective adventure game developed by HuneX and published by NEC Home Electronics for the PC-Engine Super CD-ROM2 system. Released late in the PC-Engine’s lifespan, it showcases a highly polished presentation that often makes it feel more like a next-generation game, with large and detailed graphics, full voice acting, and features such as text scaling that are rarely seen on the console. Perhaps its biggest distinguishing element is its RPG-like overworld, which provides a higher degree of freedom compared to traditional menu-driven Japanese detective games.

https://www.romhacking.net/translations/6785/
No.424388
Anonymous
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Hey.
Check this translated shit out.
https://github.com/Krokodyl/treasure-conflix
No.424651
Anonymous
Image:167999644255.jpg(189kB, 1080x1906)Dolphin released on Steam.jpg
Steamed Dolphins!
No.424655
Anonymous
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Look at this shit
>What dangers #game emulation brings to the gaming industry, how can you, a developer, be impacted, and how can you prevent it from negatively affecting your business? Download our free e-book (fuck your link denuvo)e-book-the-threats-of-game-emulation-are-you-worried-enough/
>#Denuvo #Irdeto #Cybersecurity #Gaming #ProtectYourGames
No.425487
Anonymous
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>>420127
No.425542
Anonymous
Replies:>>425543
Image:169955460974.png(392kB, 728x409)SilhouetteMirage_English_release_banner-728x409.png
Some interesting Translation Patch news here.
https://www.segasaturnshiro.com/2023/11/03/fans-release-completed-english-patch-for-silhouette-mirage/
No.425543
Anonymous
Replies:>>425544
>>425542
Yeah, it's too bad that the game sucks. It's a huge chore to play and there's no save function to make it easier.
No.425544
Anonymous
Replies:>>425545
>>425543
If you're playing it via emulator presumably you could just use save states?
No.425545
Anonymous
>>425544
I have it on original disc, and have a modded saturn to play translations on.
No.425723
Anonymous
>>419497
Same for the older ones being some of my favorites. I've heard people back in the 2000's saying they mod their Xbox and could play all sorts of wacky games but never got a chance to figure out how.
No.425798
Anonymous
Playing SOTN and I still have yet to get use to the controls after an hour of playtime. I like the game and remember some secrets though but I'll probably just try to play it with 99 luck to see what happens.
No.425816
Anonymous
>>419547
>>419551
>>420127
I'm surprised Nintendo never did anything about Palworld. Guess it falls under parody or something rather than being an actual Nintendo property.
No.426069
Anonymous
Replies:>>426107
I've got the sudden desire to play Backyard Wrestling 2, what's the best PS2 emulator nowadays?
No.426106
Anonymous
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No.426107
Anonymous
Replies:>>426271
>>426069
PCSX2 is still the only good one, and it just got a new stable version with a really ugly new UI.
No.426145
Anonymous
After experiencing a serious downtime of our internet service provider decided to go out and download a bunch of Roms so I've got something on the PC to do without it being related to an internet connection.
Primarily GBA stuff, with a focus on old turn-based strategy games and rpgs.
No.426171
Anonymous
Replies:>>426172
ROMhacking.net is shutting down

https://www.romhacking.net/
No.426172
Anonymous
>>426171
Apparently the owner got doxxed by discord trannies and decided to pull out.
The threads on /v/ and /vr/ are under constant surveillance by jannies, half the posts in them got deleted after this was pointed out.
No.426231
Anonymous
Replies:>>426232
In my younger years relied on translation patches on roms played via emulation to experience various japan-only games (primarily rpgs, where being able to actually understand the text was more important to being able to play the game).

Nowadays they are remaking and remastering all such old rpgs, and thankfully they aren't always dogshit like when devs 'remaster' more modern games such as the grand theft auto series (and then proceed to fucking delist the better older versions from all marketplaces).
No.426232
Anonymous
>>426231
FFV was my first final fantasy thanks to translation patches. All the later games in the series sucked dick compared to it. FFVI felt like a romhack where they turned every class to a boring character.

And FFV in particular is a prime example of classic RPGs being remastered in dogshit ways.
No.426271
Anonymous
>>426107
There's no other good PS2 emulators? Pretty sure I've used a couple of them back in the day, couldn't remember any real issues.