/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

I probably should, I see a lot of friends on Steam rave about it.

Played it twice, first Neutral second Pacifist. Both final bosses were 10/10. Short, but well worth the hype in my opinion.
And damn that soundtrack alone is worth the price.

TORIEL IS BEST MOM.

Friendly reminder to never sell your soul if you plan on replaying to get all the endings.

This game legitimately spooks me. I did the end of the neutral run at about 5 am. And after that I read up on what happens when you re-start and get other endings and I Nope'd out of there.

I do wanna try for a Pacifist run.

//youtube.com/watch?v=7pcI_zO9v6Q

>>197891
What, no do the pacifist run, the rerun punishment is only for if you finished a genocide run (Do Not Do Genocide Runs).

Seriously, Genocide runs are designed to be a pain in the ass. Do not attempt unless you're really patient or a masochist. Pacifist runs are actually only mildly more challenging than because of the health cap, but if you're decent at dodging then it's not that much of a problem.

>>197894
They're only a pain in the ass because you need to clear the area of enemies deliberately.
Honestly, the game makes you feel like crap for killing all these characters. If you don't feel like crap then the game rewards you by making you feel accomplished by having all the antagonists shake in fear at you and even more so with how the plot progresses.

>>197898
The fact she has different dialogue every time you click spare

>>197899
Well, regardless, I will have to live with that guilt for the rest of my life. If she didn't want me to kill her might as well not tried to kill ME.

>>197901
You'll lean why she did what she did And feel worse for it

>>197902
If her reason was "humans are the real monsters and you deserve to die", I will be severely disappointed.

And now I will have to finish the game before posting again.

>>197901
Implying she was actually trying to kill you

>>197904
Fyi, no it's not.

>>197899
For most enemies, talking gets the same reaction as sparing if you do it enough. With her it didn't, at least in the demo, and it took a few rounds of sparing for it to stsrt giving different dialoges.

>>197907

I was under the impression that you had to choose fight but intentionally flub the attack by not pressing the button again. Either way, it takes some time to stop the fight.

>>197916
I tried that, and it works as well as sparing, but talking or using items didn't.
But truly, the mystery to me is those carrots.

>>197923
Ask for a healthy meal

>>197923

If you mean how to Mercy/Spare them, it's ACT > Dinner, then grab the green one. It's like Woshua.

>>197923
You can also just eat them when their health is low enough. For some reason that doesn't count as killing.

Well, I finished my first playthrough with the true ending and now I can't bring myself to play it again.

>>197931
That's intended.

>>197932

So much so that the game calls you out on it if you try to do another playthrough.

//youtube.com/watch?v=QtplRk6BdyA

>>197966
Does this guy have his full streams anywhere?

So has anyone figured out the deal behind W.D. Gaster yet?

>>198081
His whole storyline is out there.

Ugh, one of the first things on my dash this afternoon was a bunch of drama because some people are adamant that Frisk is canon nonbinary and people who refer to them as "he" or "she" are misgendering them and should go to hell. I'm very certain I remember reading somewhere that Toby Fox said Frisk is supposed to be the same gender as whatever the player is, though. Meaning they can be canonically anything, can't they?

Please tell me this isn't going to be a repeat of the Hanji Zoe drama llama all over again. Sage for wankery.

>>198092
People like getting mad. If people keep arguing it will keep going until interest fads out, but even then it might not entirely die out.

In summation: the ride never ends.

>>198092
People identify with the mc. If they argue they're NB the one saying it is likely that as well. Its an exercise in empathy in my experience but I don't think it merits arguing about.

>>198092
Don't some nonbinary folks still use he or she pronouns out of convenience indifference? What's to say they're necessarily even being misgendered in the first place?

>>198096
Yeah, exactly. I see their point, but there's more nuance to it which makes the whole X = Y situation silly. Some NB people use gendered pronounces (interchangeably too, sometimes!). Sometimes kids just wanna cause an impression with their social circle than just outright having a discussion on it.

>>198092
The game is deliberately ambiguous, and people took the deliberate ambiguous as canon representation. Those getting mad over it are the same who insist that Samus is transgender, simply because people will say she's not.

>>198100
>simply because people will say she's not.
You mean because literally the opposite of that happened. The conflict here is the intent of the dev who said it. As either "lol she's manly because she's a man" or not.

Either way its a valid interpretation and hey, there's no reason it can't be true.

>>198100
Don't you mean "the same who insist that Samus must be transgender, simply because people can say she is?"

Undertale!

>>198103
No I mean the same who insist that Samus is transgender simply because they want to fight about it and they know they can get people who will argue.

Undertale!

So how many people listened to Flowey after beating True Pacifist?

>>198109
Me.

>>198109
Yeah, me. There's no way I could undo that good ending.

>>198110
>>198113
>>198109
I did as well.

I wanted to have a relative play the game on my computer without the New Game+ stuff that shows up. So I just saved the files in a new folder and kept em tucked away thinking "Yeah. They're safe!"

...Its a friggin save file.
Good job, Toby.

>>198119
Set up separate uiser accounts?

>>198119

You can prolly back them up on some external storage or cloud, then just putz around with the registry or game files. I'm sure there's guides on how to do this by now, it's just kinda tough.

>>198182
Sans is his support. Drops range from useless socks to a range of healing items (burgers, fries, ketchup, spaghetti ("Sans stay out of my section of the fridge") to the rare chance he'll just 'port in and TK smash all opponents off the platform

>>198184
Sans makes more sense as an Assist Trophy if you ask me. Or maybe Undyne since he's too lazy otherwise.

>>198186
Heh. He could modify gravity with his blue eye thingie.

>>198231
The game triggers every board on 4chan I think. It got mentioned a few times in a Homestuck thread on /co/ and some people blew up over it. They weren't arguing about keeping it on topic either, just talking shit about the fanbase.

It's popular enough with enough of the right people that 4chan hates it. Is the fanbase really that bad? Like, worse than other fanbases? I really haven't been involved with the fan community for this at all.

>>198234
4chan is more inappropriately fixated with fanbases than they are creators' sex lives, and that's saying a lot.
No, of course its not a terribad fanbase. Its an ample one, which allows all sorts of content being made. But its obvious they hate anything with more fans outside the site than in.

Its this weird
persecution complex they have.

>>198234
The "haters" hate it because it's popular. And because it has quirky (no other word to describe it) humor and nerd references, it gets labeled as "tumblr".

And nothing triggers 4chan more than the mentioning of the word "tumblr".

>>198236
That's just the flavour of the month/year/coupleofyears though.
Before tumblr it was reddit, before that, livejournal. They'll move on.

>>198238
>they'll
I thought we are them too.

>>198238
And before that, Gaia Online.

>>198239
Not enough slinging of the word "cuck" to really call it a shared culture here.

>>198242
So glad Mootwo introduced the new word filter.

>>198242
I see +4chan as situated in the same 4chan Country, just in an area with a milder climate.

>>198244
Sleepy Mountain Town, that people drop by for the brothel

//youtube.com/watch?v=8ISGz5OfS5s

>>198256
I liked it more when it was this
//youtube.com/watch?v=rHG-JO8gIGk

>>198256
Do people really find it to be that difficult of a boss? I'm not trying to show off my e-peen or anything but I didn't have a hard time against him.

I kind of want to do a genocide run so I can fight sans since he looks like the toughest opponent in the game, but I also don't because, y'know, it'd be a genocide run.

>>198259
He's really not THAT difficult. Most of the challenge comes from the surprise attacks he tries to pull on you. Once you figure things out, it's pretty easy to muscle memory it.

>>198244
>I see +4chan as situated in the same 4chan Country, just in an area with a milder climate.
I think it's more of a Venn diagram thing. It's cool that lots of people on here are keyed into 4chan and the content that arises from it, but for those of us who've sworn off the place it's nice to have a paddling-pool alternative we can swim in.

//youtube.com/watch?v=u7aZIx3Nin4

Dis gonna be gud.
//youtube.com/watch?v=FIiC42tgLrs

Looks like it got popular enough for /v/ to hate/shitpost about it.

>>198388

It won? HAH!

I believe it’s going up against Pokémon in the next round, though, so…yeah, good run, Undertale!

>>198388
I was actually pretty surprised by that.

I kind of stay out of the whole 'internet culture' thing these days, especially for videogames. Is Undertale actually that popular? I had no idea.

I mean, this really just shows it's more popular than Mario World with the GameFAQs demographic, but that's still nothing to sneeze at.

>>198414
Nah, it's not popular with the GameFAQs demographic or else the site and /v/ wouldn't be full of people bitching about an "SJW" game winning. Most of it is because it's new and the people into it are more social media savvy. As a GameFAQs moderator pointed out a lot of the traffic came from places like Reddit (and most likely Tumblr). Surprisingly little botting involved while everyone else (including even the rest of 4Chan) laughs at them. SMW might be the better game overall but it's not necessarily even considered the best in its series and the people old enough to love it probably don't care for these kinds of polls in general.

I just googled "Asgore" because the part where he takes out his trident is great, especially with that theme and the fanbase really does look awful (and by awful I mean it looks like it really got to the 12-17 demographic).

But if people don't like media based on fans I don't know how anyone likes anything

>>198420
>But if people don't like media based on fans I don't know how anyone likes anything
Then why tell us your sick Google story at all?

>198421
Shit, for some reason I didn't include the question in there--I meant to ask if that's why some people ended up not liking the game. I'm not in the loop since I don't browse /v/ or tumblr and was curious. Sorry about that

>>198441
Undertale attracts a pretty wide demographic. Naturally there's going to be the annoying kind of fans but pretty much anyone with decent motor skills can enjoy it, veterans and "casual" gamers alike. People are just mad that it's not catering purely to them.

>>198441
/v/ dislikes it because it's popular, especially on Tumblr. That is the beginning and the end of it.

>>198469
It took me a while to figure out, too, but when it specifically said "You can't run away" when you turn green and then I noticed she was turning me red again for certain attacks, it became clear. It was subtle, but the game *was* giving you all the clues you needed to put that together.

>>198471
You used a guide, didn't you?

>>198472
No. The clues are there in-game. This wasn't a "Guide Dang It" moment as TV Tropes would put it.

>>198472
>You used a guide, didn't you?
I figured it out on my own on about the third try.

>>198475
Alright, you are a smart cookie.

>>198476
No, you are just an idiot.

I figured it out on accident. I started sparing her through the whole fight because it skipped dialogue faster than the attack or act buttons would.

Then I saw that it was an option and it clicked.

Plus, once her dialog started repeating it became clear that just spamming "Mercy" wasn't the key the way it had been with other bosses.

>>198477
Remind me to not compliment you next time.

What's with all the people calling themselves "kin" and claiming they're literally the Undertale characters in this life? And not even in an RP way, a lot of Undertale artists on Tumblr are starting to put notes on their blogs telling people not to call themselves character-kin when they reblog. I thought this was a fad that died a year or two ago when Homestuck was still new. But now it seems to be coming back in full force.

>>198481
>What's with all the people calling themselves "kin" and claiming they're literally the Undertale characters in this life?
This happens with a lot of things that get popular with Tumblr. Just let it pass and enjoy it try to enjoy the good fan content. Or just try to ignore it altogether.

That being said, do you have any links to said people? I'm curious to see what they're like.

>>198481

Tumblrinas gonna Tumbl. Not much you can do about it but smile, nod, and learn how to block such posts via New X-Kit or Tumblr Savior.

>>198480
But it was Anonymous who called you an idiot, not thatother1dude.

>>198494
I guess the time has finally come for me to confess.

I almost never read the posting name, just the post.

>>198496
>basic facts
Isn't it hypocritical for supporters of postmodernism to toss around words like "fact"?

>>198496
Yeah. Just seems like a common deviant art teen. Just let them burn themselves out.

>>198498

>Just let them burn themselves out.

Pretty much the best tactic possible. A lot of the people doing this are either teens or in their very early twenties; if they’re still doing this shit in a decade, they’re either socially maladjusted to the point where nothing can fix them, mentally unstable, or some weird combination of the two. (And yes, as someone who has been “Sage Freehaven” for essentially the past 15 years, I’m well aware of the irony in my statement.)

>>198500
Wait, THE Freehaven? Goddamnit Mr. Stone.

Really the only reaction one should have to Tumblr doing something silly/stupid is to laugh at them, maybe while pointing.
I don't get letting a stupid fanbase paint your opinion of a thing. Internet's pretty big, it's not too hard to ignore such a small piece of it if it bothers you.

>>198496
>About four years old
I haven't seen that one. How does THAT work?

>>198516
Probably under the assumption that Chara themself is supposed to be four years old, which is strange in and of itself.

>>198496

I always pictured Frisk, the fallen child, and Asriel to all be around 9-ish years old or at least physically around there, maybe 12 at the oldest...also I misread "Mister Clever" as Master Chief at first and was disappointed to find the truth.

>I picture Frisk as a girl
>"NO FUCK YOUR HETEROSEXUAL STANDARDS, FRISK IS FEMBOY/TRANS/GENDERFLUID"

Tumblrites gonna tumble, I guess.

>>198546
Frisk is deliberately ambiguous so the viewer can project what they like, and you shouldn't care about this.

>>198546
Who are you talking to.

Frisk is ungendered for the benefit of the player. That includes NB, Trans, Genderfluid or whatnot. If someone's being a dick about it, that's that, but you can't reasonably argue any interpretation is essentially wrong.

>>198548

In my experience, there's a lot of people who decided to be dicks about it. Like a lot.

>>198549
If you believe that anon is complaining because he was attacked for seeing Frisk as a girl and not for other reasons, I have a bridge to sell you.

>>198548
This: >>198549

If you decide that Frisk is a female or even a male sometimes, people will jump down your throat. They'll do the same thing if you say Mettaton is a male.

>>198551
>They'll do the same thing if you say Mettaton is a male.

I doubt that. I've seen Tumblr, they're quite happy to accept Mettaton as male--because it makes him transgendered. Ghosts are referred to with gender neutral pronouns, including past-Mettaton when he was just a ghost and not a ghost in a robot, and his journal even specifically talks about feeling more himself than ever now that he has a body. That sort of thing is very sympathetic to the socially liberal side of Tumblr, especially since it doesn't erase non binary characters since they still have Napstablook and Frisk and Chara to embrace as NB.

>>198552
Ok, that's not what I meant.

What I meant to say is that, it's fairly obvious that Mettaton is a play on the "feminine man dancer" character archetype commonly found in anime and the like. I highly doubt that he's intentionally "transgender" and I also doubt Toby Fox was following some kind of agenda when creating the characters.

>>198553
I'm not saying Toby was following an agenda, but it's pretty unquestionable that Mettaton is a different gender when we see him than he was in his backstory. His pronouns changed in-universe.

>>198553
>What I meant to say is that, it's fairly obvious that
That is your interpretation. Mettaton as a transgender narrative fits fairly simply to a lot of people.
>agenda
Does character variety have to be an "agenda?"

>>198555
Unfortunately yes.

>>198556
Hm, I disagree. Character variety is good, and believing it is some kind of conspiracy is unhealthy.

>>198556
>Unfortunately yes.
He's a Homestuck, dude. Exploring species and societies with alternative takes on gender and sexuality is bread and butter for Homestucks. There doesn't have to be an agenda to make them want to ask "what if?" It's a Science Fiction staple. You've just become oversensitive to it by hanging out on 4chan too much and thinking everything is about choosing sides between /b/ and tumblr.

>>198550

No, I know that Anon was prolly just venting or complaining, I was just making an offhand comment. Some people really do get this massive bug up their ass about referring to Frisk as he or she and they get all "ugh, get this garbage off my dash," and talking about "erasure" and my favorite "why do you hate non binary people?! Why do you wanna take this away?!"

It's dumb. Luckily, it's usually just a matter of doing something else. That junk's as easy to find as it is to ignore.

>Undertale beat Pokemon in the GameFAQs polls
Oh wow.

>>198571

Holy shit, I thought it didn’t have a chance in hell of beating Pokémon.

But no matter. Even if Pokémon had won, it wouldn’t have beaten Super Mario 64; Undertale stands even less of a chance against that certified masterpiece.

>>198572
That is literally what everyone said when it went up against Pokeman.

>>198572
The thing about the classics is that they don't tend to bring out the passionate voting blocks that new games do. I don't necessarily think Undertale is a better game than Mario 64, or even--in the cosmic timescale--more popular. But I think Undertale has a shot of beating it, at least this year. Popularity ebbs and flows, and Undertale is at the peak of its popularity right now while Mario 64--much like Pokemon RBY and Fallout 3--has settled into the comfortable area of nostalgia popularity.

>>198573

Eh, Pokémon was an edge case—despite its popularity as a franchise, the original games aren’t industry-changers on the level of SM64. And as >>198574 says, the older Pokémon games have hit that “nostalgia popularity” level, and Undertale is in the peak of its popularity (I’m sure there are groups ready to go for the SM64 “battle”). A victory for Undertale against SM64 is at least somewhat probable, given the win over Pokémon.

But if it wins there, it’ll have to go up against either Melee or (more likely) FF7. And if—IF—Undertale pulls out a miracle there and makes it to the final, it will likely be going up against a Zelda game (my money would be on Ocarina of Time). The chances of Undertale winning that poll would be even worse than the chances of it beating SM64. And if the truly improbable (Undertale wins the whole damn thing) comes to pass, everyone pissed about the poll will write the result off as little more than recency bias (based on Undertale being one of the newer games in the tournament) combined with "coordinated campaigns" to stack the deck in Undertale's favor, making this whole thing even more worthless than it already is.

I care so much about this Gamefaqs' poll you guys
https://twitter.com/HendrixTrog/status/674639453395288064?s=09

>>198576
People who get this upset about a shitty Internet poll are hilarious. I don't care whether Undertale wins or loses beyond this point. It's just funny to see /v/ and GameFAQs users get mad.

>>198575
>making this whole thing even more worthless than it already is.
It is not possible for something to be more worthless than "Internet Popularity Poll for Video Games."

>>198579

Three words: furry fandom popularity.

>>198580

If you're an artist or you sell something, that can at least net you some money. This is more like...man, I got nothing.

>>198580
Hey man. I can make decent bank on that racket.
And get some nice pics to if I do say so.

>>198582
Ooooh.
Where do you post your stuff?

>>198583
It's on FA. It's mostly bara transformation stuff though. Very spesific fetish.

>>198587
Live out the remainder of your days in deep longing and shame.

Alternatively, rob a grave and dress up the skeleton like Papyrus. He shall keep you company on those lonely nights.

>>198587

I’d remember the most important thing: more than one waifu will ruin your laifu.

>>198587
Consider calling him 'your husbando'. Don't sound like one of those people that just call 'a girl/character I like' or 'favorite girl/character from a series' their waifu.

>>198592
In that case wouldn't he be my husbonedo?

Undertale just beat Mario 64 in the GameFAQs poll, and its next round is the Semifinals against Super Smash Bros. Melee. Chances are if it makes it to the Finals it will have to beat either Ocarina of Time or Link to the Past, though it's possible it'll face Mario RPG or Metal Gear Solid 3 instead.

The GameFAQs poll is fucking stupid.

>>198602
Agreed. But it's a little entertaining to watch the reactions surrounding it.
Some people take it far far too seriously.

>>198601
At that point I don't care who wins as long as it's not OoT.

//youtube.com/watch?v=-HtNzqlk2t8
//youtube.com/watch?v=E9Et37mUpUw

>>198609
I'll be voting OoT just for you then.

Undertale is beating Melee, holy shit.

//youtube.com/watch?v=v7Bf0fel8S0

>>198645
The Fallen Child is only really spoken of as though he were "the devil" in the genocide route, when they (i.e. you) are urging Frisk to muder everyone. The Pacifist route only acknowledged that they might not have been "the best" person, but also that it seemed they were trying to escape from something pretty trying, and that likely contributed to their not-quite-as-messianic-as-Frisk attitude.

But it's become a popular theory within the fandom that the Fallen Child's attitude does reflect your own, and that in the Pacifist run, they really *are* redeemed in the same way that Frisk was. Because it was their memories and their affection for Asriel that reached out and saved Asriel, not Frisk's own--as Frisk had never met Asriel other than in his Flowey form. They might believe in the inherent redeemability of Asriel, but it was the Chara in Frisk that got through to Asriel.

Dude

isnt it wild
the game was basically
"the first goombah in Mario Bros is the final boss as a fucking cthulu demon"
and
"literally every other 'enemy' in the game is actually pretty cool with you?"

>>198650
"Trying to murder me" is not what I would consider "being cool with me".

>>198651
Very few of them are trying to murder you. It's pretty much just Undyne, Flowey, and Asgore. Unless you're on a genocide run.

>>198651
Snow Drake just wanted to test out his snow puns. Vegetoid wanted to feed you! The little volcano guy thought his lava was for healing!

>>198653
Woshua just wanted you to wosh u face!

Temmie just got over excited because you were so cute and she wanted to pet you! And you're allergic! And she is also allergic!

>>198652
The guys in the CORE too.

>>198654
Aaron just wants to flex! And Tsundereplane is... tsundere for you.

>>198719
Alphys is that pile everyone is sleeping on.

>>198719
>without botting
I find this hard to believe that an internet poll doesn't have both side botting it to hell and back. Especially one as popular as GameFAQs.

>>198734
Don't have the link but one of the mods actually made a post about this. According to them a chunk of the Melee votes were botted and excised, but the Undertale votes were legit and that most of the referrals for Undertale didn't even come from Tumblr like all the antifags claimed but from Reddit.
It's possible they were full of shit and just trying to spite the userbase though. If I had to mod them so would I.

//youtube.com/watch?v=GIuBpl7k_eU

>>198749

>not posting the best one

//youtube.com/watch?v=pkox8x1LxQ4

//youtube.com/watch?v=mOFz1WCYVA8

>>198787
No not really, though the Mother series isn't either. Games are weird that way.

They're also not prostitutes.

>>198787
I thought they were valley girls or scene girls.

>>198787
They're valley girl black market peddlers.

//youtube.com/watch?v=gCg9leUINYU

>>198871
>[what] makes you think that Undertale is a kid's game?
I think Fox has said the game was meant to be mostly family-friendly. Even if there's creepy stuff, there's little in the way of graphic violence or profanity.

>>198874
Counterpoint, Twister is an idiot.

>>198874
I don't know why he would say that. There are a couple instances of blood, one blatant screamer, and the entirety of one of the final bosses. That plus the general immersion of the player to the point of extending into the real world would've given me nightmares as a kid, and possibly actually scarred me. I suppose if you do a true ending run it's pretty family-friendly, but I certainly can't say that about the other paths.

>>198876
Earthbound was for kids and it had Giygas.

>>198877
I would've been creeped out by Giygas, but not "scared to turn on the game" creeped out. Plus Earthbound came out at a time when the ESRB was not yet mature, games weren't considered art, and the idea of Nintendo releasing a game that wasn't all-ages appropriate was just plain poppycock.

Had Undertale been rated it would've been rated T, at the very least.

>>198879
Yeah, just like Land Before Time is only for teenagers because it has scary and sad moments.

>>198881
You just are totally incapable of not strawmanning, aren't you?

>>198883
Nice argumental response. You're doing all the work showing complete incomprehension at the concept of an analogy.

>>198883
I'd say the comparison is pretty apt, honestly.

I can't think of any games that were rated T, M or AO just because they were scary. It's just that scary games usually have violence or sexual imagery or something, so they get a higher rating. If you can think of any exceptions feel free to say so.

I'm not trying to be controversial or anything, just scatterblasting my thoughts. Sorry if I came off as rude.

>>198885
Slender: The Arrival is rated T just because it's scary. ESRB claims "blood and violence" but there actually is none in the game. Fatal Frame is similarly rated T: a few ghosts have a bit of black&white blood on them, but besides that there's no actual gore or even any violence towards the player.

>>198908
arteest?

>>198921
If anything Papyrus's tastes lean towards robots.

>>198922
Do Papyrus or Mettaton ever have a single line referencing each other?

>>198924
If you call Papyrus he has a bunch where he fanboys over Mettaton and it's implied he has a crush on him. Aside from that all that happens is Mettaton's leg shows up near the end and Papyrus gawks over it.

>>198925

He refers to him as his "Favorite Sexy Rectangle" once, though, it's literally the only line about him far as I can tell.

>>198926
There's a few others where he admires Mettaton's bishie eyes or changes his mind on Hotland because he finds out Mettaton is there.

>>198940
>>198939

Its been around for awhile. Its the current SJW button issue. Though the racism seems to be a new wrinkle.

Really don't know why it became an issue. Did some SJW Bastion get outed as an actual pedophile so they are now having to prove super hard they aren't?

The threats they made to Foundry that influenced their change still irk me "Stop hosting that are or we'll call the cops."

>>198941
it was advertisers, though. trust me on this one. i promise its that.

>>198942
well yea same with paheal. Just saying those threatening to out the site and those that posted there to the feds didn't help things.

>>198941
>>198939
I suspect it's not racism per se, so much as these people are on a giant power trip and are intentionally going after people who they know don't have as good a command of English and therefore can't defend themselves so easily. I've seen similar stuff happen to Japanese artists regarding (usually spurious) claims of whitewashing back when Homestuck and Attack on Titan were still big, not helped by the fact that Japan doesn't have the same perspective on racial dynamics that the Americas do.

Thinking about it I guess it still does count as a sort of racism when you consider it's essentially targeting a particular ethnic group specifically because they're easier to bully.

Please, tell us more of your time in The Great SJW War, it's so incredibly interesting

>>198946
I'm not the one calling them that. Besides if anything these kinds of people who are more interested in starting fights for the sake of it than social change are who the term was coined for in its original sense, before it coopted by people not already inside the SJ sphere.