/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

>>195797

>actual fucking healthpacks in DOOM instead of a regenerating life/"shield" bar

THANK YOU BASED GODS.

>>195800
DEM RELOAD ANIMATIONS

>>195803
... Well at least they're panning violence in general instead of just exclusively violence against women like Bendis does.

What's more offensive is that they keep trying to force "Doom is fast" despite the new Doom not being even as fast as Advanced Warfare. Shits as slow as Halo 3.

In any case, I really really just want to see StarFoxU. I want it so damn bad.

>>195803
That's not actually what they said, but there's probably no point in arguing it since you don't care what they said or are saying, and are just using them as an excuse to fuel your Outrage Machine.

>>195800
Ya, but enemies shit them out like coins in Mario.
Still it's better than nothing. Really hoping shooters can start returning to their roots.
Also didn't see any true reload animations which feels great.

>>195803
If this is about the F-words, lemme tell ya, they're not that popular with them either.

Why is nobody talking about how hype Mario Maker looks.

>>195805
>sick, troubling, deeply wrong

this is the opinion that the public sides with
imageboard shitheads attacked them, therefore disagreeing with those people makes you a misogynerd terrorist

you don't need laws to ban something
those people are smarter than the previous moral guardians, that's why they're winning

get a real hobby sooner than later, it's only a matter of time before "gamers" (the current "true"/"hardcore" ones) are back to being considered anti-social degenerates in the eyes of the public

stop being on the wrong side of history before it's too late!

Doom looks slow and bad, also they didn't immediately start playing E1M1 when the gameplay rolled in so clearly they have no idea what they're doing. Good thing Doom WADs are forever, so we have Demonsteel and Brutal Doom.

Fallout 4 had a good presentation, but the stuff they should is all ancillary, nothing of genuine substance. Give us a good chunk of actual writing and maybe I'll turn around Todd, for now it just looks like you grabbed some community mods and added an extremely minor amount of visual polish to Fallout 3. Also a really bad actor for your male lead at least.

Fallout Shelter actually looks kind of rad but it's iOS only so OH WELL.

And for those who missed it.
//youtube.com/watch?v=b88eKjjQbeg

>>195811
>it's only a matter of time before "gamers" (the current "true"/"hardcore" ones) are back to being considered anti-social degenerates in the eyes of the public
Can you really give any clear examples of why this would be an unfair way to see "true"/"hardcore" gamers? That is certainly the brush gamers have been painting themselves with more and more lately.

>>195809
No idea, though I'm wondering if I should try out that or Petit Computer first.

>>195815
Don't engage, brah. Not worth it.

>>195815
it isn't

though if you happen to like the same games as them, you'll be considered one of them, so that may be bad for you

the idea is that "problematic" games create "problematic" gamers, so removing* those games also stops proliferating cultural problems (at least on a small scale)

*through social pressure, not laws; they've learned from other people's mistakes

>>195804
Slowpoking like hell but for how long has Doom been a Bethesda thing?

>>195818
>though if you happen to like the same games as them, you'll be considered one of them, so that may be bad for you
Kind of unlikely because I don't let video games define my life the way most self-described "gamers" do. It is something I do for entertainment, not a way of life. Which probably explains why I don't take it as a personal attack when people point out the problems in the narrative presented by video games, in the same way I don't take it as a personal attack when people point out that the crows in Dumbo were racist even though I love Disney cartoons.

>>195820
Since 2011.

>>195821
I'm pretty sure a lot of alcoholics also don't care that society looks down on them for drinking too much

even if you don't buy into the "gamer" lifestyle, playing "sick, troubling" games makes you one of them from an outside perspective and you'll be treated as such

videogames will never be a real hobby because "gamers" consistently make the choice not to be real people and that's not going to change
what people are trying to change is society ignoring the filth festering under that rock though, so that "gamers" and their toys might be destroyed for the greater good (since they refuse to change)

>>195824
>what people are trying to change is society ignoring the filth festering under that rock though, so that "gamers" and their toys might be destroyed for the greater good (since they refuse to change)
You should really seek treatment for your schizophrenia.

I missed the stream, anyone able to summarize the Dishonored announcement for me?

>>195827
You can play as a lady now. Or still play as the old dude. They have different abilities.

>>195825
what part of that is incorrect?

comparing the opposition to religious fanatics and terrorists implies that they need to be removed

"true gamers" being opposed to any sort of change since long before the term "SJW" even existed is obvious to anyone who ever was a part of any "gamer" community

exposing "gamers" to the scrutiny of society is the chosen method of eliminating their harmful presence

>>195797
I'm not sold on the demon-stration.

I'll need to see how the real game plays, because right now it seems very slow.

Holy shit this thread degenerated fast.

Anyway I was far more impressed with Bethesda than I thought I'd be.

>>195832
It's the same reverse-/pol/ schizoid who was sperging out at the end of the last /cog/ general at how gamers are literal untermenschen and servants of the devil and shit. Just ignore them and move on instead of continuing to feed them time after time.

>>195828
Emily's cool. Look forward to playing as her.

>>195828
Though why Emily? When would an Empress have the time to go on hunts with daddy?

>>195835
From the looks of things she's not Empress anymore, they apparently...well, dishonored her.

>>195836
I think it's an engine thing, the first games models had that look too.

Apparently, and this could be total bullshit, they slowed down the game for the demo to show off animations and stuff but the actual game will play like it does in the trailer.

//youtube.com/watch?v=NteAPGprDJk

Nothing official saying that, it's just what's being thrown around in various comments sections.

Suzuki actually was teasing Shenmue but I refuse to believe in fucking FF7.

>>195845

I won't believe it until Square confirms it during their presser. (I'd accept hearing about it from Sony, too, but Square announcing it themselves would make it beyond reproach.)

FF7 remake has been dicktease for a decade. I'll believe it when I see it.

>>195839
>Apparently, and this could be total bullshit, they slowed down the game for the demo to show off animations and stuff but the actual game will play like it does in the trailer.
I feel that if that were true they would have mentioned it on stage, but you never know since damn near every single person on stage last night was a nervous wreck.

If even half these leaks are real this is a pretty good E3.

https://www.youtube.com/e3?feature=int-yo-e3-03

Holy fuck, that VR demo was insane.

>>195854
WHEN'S YU-GI-OH!?

Yeah I'm going to keep calling bullshit on Hololens because that all seemed super impossible.

Was Troy Baker narrating the MGSV trailer supposed to be from the perspective of Ocelot or just as himself?

>>195857
Well that particular implementation also needed the Kinect, so it's likely to be somewhat jank at least. But goddamn, if it works even half as well as advertised, it's still gonna be fucking cool.

So is Eliquid Snake as good as confirmed now or do you think Kojima is still trying to pull a fast one on us?

Oh god EA's presentation is just depressing. The stuff they have is ok, but the audience just doesn't give a shit and the people on stage are trying their damnedest. It's heart breaking.

>>195862
That poor guy introducing Unravel was so nervous, but so earnest in his enthusiasm. Public speaking isn't easy.

listen to that deafening silence as these sports assholes ramble.

BOOS, OPEN BOOS

>>195864
Almost everyone save the Liesmith in Bethesda's panel was a near wreck too, but Unravel Guy was very quickly becoming unraveled. The game looks pretty cute and fun though, if maybe a bit too Little Big Planet in its art direction and presentation.

Sea of Thieves is such a let down, like I know Rare is dead but still the corpse of the name being paraded around is saddening.

>>195870
It looked fine to me. It was the only thing I really liked about Microsoft's conference.

That long chat with Pele was reminiscent of when James Cameron talked about Avatar for twenty uninterrupted minutes at Ubisoft's conference in 2009.

Oh new South Park! Cool.

For Honor basically looks like the game Plague of Gripes always complains Dark Souls isn't.

>Ubisoft announcer at it with the memes again
Goddamnit. I can't tell if she really thinks young people talk that way or if she's being forced to because the higherups do.

>>195874
I think that it's a bit of both. Ubisoft has no shame whatsoever.

Ubisoft started strong but petered out.

I absolutely lost it at the deafening silence to "Danger Zone."

Holy fucking shit, EA. There is no way Sony or Nintendo's conference could ever be that awful, so I'm pre-emptively awarding them Worst Conference Of E3 2015.

Ubisoft was a really mixed bag It started off pretty strong until THE MEMENING.

Also there's this now:
//youtube.com/watch?v=uG8V9dRqSsw

MS: C+
EA: D
Ubi: B-

>>195878
http://blog.bioware.com/2015/06/15/introducing-mass-effect-andromeda/

>>195877
"EA: When you say that we're the worst, we take that as a challenge to show we can go even deeper into the shithole"
And, of course, Ubisoft looks up to EA in every way possible.

No way anyone beats EA open Boos.

>>195880
"LA LA LA WHY ARE YOU MENTIONING MASS EFFECT THREE SHUT UP
LA LA LA LA"

>>195882
Which one was that for?

So The Last Guardian is finally happening in 2016 and I have no idea why people are so hyped for it other than the fact its been in development 10,000 years.

FF7 remake.

They won.

I can't believe I just saw that, or that the FF7 remake has Fake David Hater.

That Shenmue thing was also real apparently.

For the grand finale, Boyes and Hirai will beat Phil Spencer to death with two xbones, live, on stage.

Dreams looks like a neat concept, but can it carry an entire game?

I still don't really get why people give such a shit about FF7 remake. FF7 was a middling entry in the series and we've already played it. Call me when they announce an FF5 or FF6 in the style of the FF3 and 4 remakes.

>>195893
Nostalgia. a legitimate and powerful force.

Sony won E3. No doubts, no question. Only—ONLY—a Half-Life 3 reveal can be a bigger megabomb than that FF7 Remake/Last Guardian/Shenmue 3 combo.

>>195895
They won by having only Uncharted and a game with Duke Nukem Forever level of dev time be exclusives?
They won with "Exclusively on PS4... for a month or two"?
They won by announcing a fucking kickstarter?
They won by having mostly multiplats?
Ok

Now here's some MGSV
//youtube.com/watch?v=LEkwxs5ajhI
//youtube.com/watch?v=aqXJsu1sMfM

//youtube.com/watch?v=aLRWL0s0l10

>>195895
This is a severe overestimation of the popularity of Half Life.

>>195896
Shh, back to grinding for Helium Brad.

Looking like a relatively strong E3 all-around so far. I hope Nintendo and Square have good reveals.

>>195896
Well who else has won it? EA?

>>195901
This man was absolutely precious and I hope they sell a bajillion copies of his game.

>>195905

Sony already blew the wad on the FF7 reveal, so Square’s gonna need something really good. And Nintendo…I dunno. They’re not showing off the NX, and the new Zelda’s probably dropping next year, and we’ve already seen Blastball and Mario Maker and the Smash DLC and Earthbound Beginnings, so I dunno what sort of “megaton announcement” it could have besides Mother 3 or the new Zelda dropping THIS year. (We all know StarFox is coming, so let’s not treat that as some big shocking surprise.)

>>195906

From all the reactions I’ve read, EA’s conference bombed worse than a US military drone.

>>195886
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus fans.

This E3 has been mostly good so far. Actual games and no fucking disasters like Kinectshit and all the previous events.

>>195910

Yeah, Microsoft didn’t even mention the Kinect this year. (Not surprised.)

>>195913
Yeah, I'm definitely into Sony's Zelda. That's a really cool idea to start with!

>>195913
What's Guerilla Games' track record? The setting looks really cool.

>>195915
They are the team behind the Killzone series, as well as Shellshock 'Nam.

>>195901
>>195902
//youtube.com/watch?v=TZvXNXc6ibw

>>195910
>>195911
You know, they might not have *mentioned* Kinect, but that Minecraft Hololens thing that everyone's going apeshit over used Kinect.

ttps://youtu.be/8XkKolIqtfM

>>195918
Speaking of which, the field of view on the Hololens is tiny.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/microsoft-hololens-narrower-than-you-think/

And of course /v/ hates Horizon, because it "pander to SJWs". I shouldn't even be surprised at this shit anymore.

>>195923
You really shouldn't, this is bog standard fare for them. This E3 does have a lot of female leads, it's very nice in contrast.

>>195923
Tumblr hates it too because it has tribal themes and yet has white people.

Actually I hate it just because the girl wouldn't shut the fuck up in the trailer. It was really annoying and I seriously hope it's not like that in the actual game.

They didn't announce any date for FF7R did they?

Dammit I was really hoping to avoid buying a PS4 I just got a Ps3 last year and the only other exclusive I liked eas Bloodborne.

>>195926

Nope. Squeenix put out a press release shortly after the trailer that said they’d started production on it. Don’t expect it for another couple of years.

Of course, the 20th anniversary of the game is in another couple of years…

I feel like people aren't giving Microsoft enough credit. I have a PS4 and don't ever planning on getting the Bone, but I think they genuinely put on a good show.
Phil Spencer is a great host. Recore, Sea of Thieves, Dark Souls III and Beyond Eyes were all pretty cool announcements. Hololens was fucking mindblowing. The rest of the games weren't all that exciting to me, but they're still games. And I think credit should be given were its due.
They really were all about the games this time. You can tell Spencer is trying to turn this ship around after Mattrick left.

>>195929
The reason I was unimpressed with their presentation was because very few of the games they showed were exclusive. A lot of the games looked cool but I'm just gonna get them for pc.

That said, yeah, hololens is nuts. I'm not expecting much from it for the first few years it's out, because this kind of tech always takes a while for devs to figure out how to make good games on, but it could lead to some pretty crazy stuff down the line. I really hope someone starts developing a sort of pen & paper game but also videogame that can be played with it.

>>195929
MS E3 showing has been getting better year after year. This year was a good show, but what hurt their new IP showings was the lack of gameplay footage. Funny enough, MS gave indie game makers more of a spotlight than Sony (a reversal from last year). No Scalebound also crippled their presence. And the anticipation for Rare first non-Kinect game in years was too much to deliver. However, that Rare game compilation is an excellent deal.

Xbox One finally being backwards compatible was the best moment, along with the shot at PlayStation Now.

Xbox losing Call of Duty to PlayStation is a significant blow to Microsoft. Quite symbolic on who's winning the console market.

STAR FOX ZERO, COMING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON!

>>195933
But how does it look and play and did they finally get rid of blue tits?

//youtube.com/watch?v=AsrvGM3u9z8

Glorious...

//youtube.com/watch?v=bSeBcZR2pI8

>>195933
>>195934
//youtube.com/watch?v=hPZr4SSkBfM
//youtube.com/watch?v=LkILpP-3yoo

I honestly was expecting SMT X Fire Emblem to be pretty dark, but they went in the extreme other direction instead. That's like Compile Heart levels of cheese and fanservice.

NEW NIER?!? WHAT!?!? BY PLATINUM!?!?!?!!?!?!

>>195938
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam looks neat. Also, Sony's conference went to shit after the Project Morpheus tease.

>>195938
What even is the NX and will it be backwards compatible? This is important because I need StarFoxU, but don't want to buy a system at the end of its life cycle for full price and that I'm actually interested in a few games that actually have online.

>>195938
Yeah, it was pretty shit.

I'm not even sure how I feel about the new Star Fox. I thought it looked kind of fun until they went on about the awful Wii U controller. If that's the only controller that works with the game it will honestly kill my interest.

Yoshi's Woolly World could be okay but looks like it will be easy to the point that it becomes unenjoyable. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.

Mario Maker still looks fun.

Zelda Wii U will probably be a launch for NX and one of the last games released for Wii U, like Twilight Princess was for Wii and GC. I don't know what to think about that 3DS Zelda game. I mean, I actually enjoyed Four Swords Adventures with a friend, but this...I don't know. Everything about it just looks really phoned in and mediocre. A lot of that feeling probably comes from the art style so I'm gonna try to withhold judgment until I know more about it, but right now I'm not feeling it.

Tetra had better be available as DLC for HW on Wii U. If she's a 3DS exclusive for no reason other than trying to get me to buy the game again I'm gonna be pissed.

I was hyped as fuck when they showed Paper Jam but then I realized it was mixing the M&L series with Sticker Star, not the traditional Paper Mario gameplay. Huge disappointment.

I'm not really interested in anything else that was shown, but that Fire Emblem x Persona thing was embarrassing to watch.

I'm really not trying to be overly negative here, but I just found the whole thing to be really disappointing.

>>195938

you don't even know if the NX is the next mobile platform or the next console or what.

christ Jumpman, I know you get your news from /v/ but try exercising your common sense a bit.

Yeah, Nintendo's presentation was very meh. Muppets were fun at first, but then became useless. But I got my Xenoblade X release date, so I'm content.

>>195942
They already said that Tetra/KoRL will be unlocked in Wii U version IF you link up the 3DS version. D: I don't think they've said anything about getting them separately, but hopefully it is DLC.

>>195944
If I didn't know better, I'd swear he was a Sony shill.

Paper Jam looks like it'll be bringing story back.

>>195938
I don't even care that much about Nintendo outside of Smash but holy shit the hyperbole in this post is cringe-worthy.

Holy fuck, Nintendo fans really have the thinnest fucking hides in the multiverse. HOW DARE HE NOT SUCK NINTENDO DICK! HE MUST BURN! The post was not in any way hyperbolic or mean spirited. It's just someone dissappointed with a fucking marketing video.

Square-Enix was informative, but the presentation is lacking. Their event was more for the stockholders than for the press or consumers, I think.

>>195952

Seriously, what happened to Metroid. ;A;

>>195956
If it didn't have the Metroid name attached to it, it might have been better received.

>>195957
That presentation itself was awkward as fuck, but goddamn if it didn't fill me with some amount of child-like wonder and glee. They're really trying to do things right.

>>195956
>MonHun Co op Bounty Hunting Game
YES
>No Samus
Wait wh
>CHIBI SPACE MARINES
FOR FUCK'S SAKE

Nintendo was pretty weak this time around. Mostly spinoffs and small games.
Starfox looks pretty good though.

>>195950
Oh Jumpman always shits on Nintendo for anything. Some people are just annoyed by his constant antics.

>>195966
This. Star Fox 64 2 BY PLATINUM. I'll miss the Assault visuals but it still looks awesome!

>>195956
Honestly this looks kind of neat to me, I'm interested in playing the flunkies.

>>195968
Least it doesn't look like shitty Command.

Did the Star Fox puppet skit remind anyone else of good old Lust Penis?

>>195968
Wait, where did they say it was by Platinum? That sounds like bullshit. It's way too slow and reserved to be by Platinum. I want it, but it's not happening.

As for StarFox0 as a whole (there's a pearl harbor joke in there) I'm not sure how I feel about it. I love StarFox, it's my favorite series (not sure why since only 64 was truly remarkable), but something here feels off. It seems a bit too slow to me and I'm not sure I like the idea of moving around a tablet to shoot while you can keep gliding in place. It seems too easy. The pace also seems really damn slow. As far as the ship designs go I admire them for going back to the basic 64 look, but it just doesn't feel right here. I wish they would have gone a little more hard scifi like they did in Assault. This sort of feels like a step backwards. It also seemed kind of dull and lifeless to me (almost like a beta). It just doesn't have that energy that SF, 64, Assault and even Command and Adventures had.

As for the whole "It's not a sequel or a reboot" I don't know what it is then unless it's a prequel or an alternate universe or something. SF is one of the very VERY few franchises in Nintendos arsonel that actually had story progression and development from game to game despite StarFox, StarFox64, and now this seemingly resetting everything.

It also appears as though Krystal got the axe from what we've seen this far which I find slightly comical. If this truly is them going back to formula to reset things and move forward with a clean slate, great. I just have my reservations about it.

>>195972
>Wait, where did they say it was by Platinum? That sounds like bullshit. It's way too slow and reserved to be by Platinum. I want it, but it's not happening.

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/610860445520515072

>>195972
It's the Bayo 2 dude, Yusuke whatshisname.

//youtube.com/watch?v=sGu3Xe1uUUg

HOLY SHIT FUCK OFF NINTENDO

>>195964
Yeah, I was so underwhelmed by a game that slapped on the title "Metroid Prime" that it killed my enthusiasm for pretty much everything else.

>>195976
IT IS SO FUCKING GROSS, I HATE THAT GAME SO INTENSELY BECAUSE OF THE WORST IMAGINABLE MARKETING ANYONE COULD EVER CREATE

>>195975
Holy shit look at that dislike bar.

I can't help but feel Codename STEAM is related to this. I think had that been successful, they would have tried marketing this as a new IP. Since that game didn't do as well they're thinking of needing a brand name for a title like this.

>>195980
Supposing that's the case when this sells near zero and is brought up for years to come as one of the most awful ideas anyone has ever had it will hopefully give them the message that at least Codename STEAM sold some copies.

BTW 95% dislike.

>>195982
Or it just tells them nobody likes Metroid.

>>195983
If garbage like this and other m is what they're giving us that's gonna be true REAL QUICK.

Why wasn't this in the Direct?

http://e3.nintendo.com/games/wiiu/fatal-frame-maiden-of-black-water/

>Next Level gives us Punch Out for the Wii, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
>heralded as great developers
>Make a Metriod spin-off game for the 3DS
>treated like the worst satan imaginable

welp.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/16/e3-2015-beyond-good-evil-2-director-leaves-project

Truly, this E3 is a monkey's paw. You can have your Last Guardian and Shenmue III, but not without sacrifice.

>>195999
What, then, must we sacrifice for Half-Life 3?

>>195997
It's not so much people think they're bad developers, so much as people think this game shouldn’t have had the Metroid name attached to it.

http://kotaku.com/sony-is-helping-make-shenmue-iii-1711819045

This makes me feel relatively dirty, for some reason.

More StarFox0 footge:
//youtube.com/watch?v=ajlbTbOANDI

>>196001
Did you think 2 million dollars was gonna be enough to fund a AAA title. Really.

>>196007
This is correct.

>You can only upload Mario Maker levels you beat
>Courses rated on how many people have beaten them that downloaded them
Nintendo actually on the ball for once.

This PCGamer show is good if you're REALLY into hardware talk.

I don't think the talk show format is really working out for the PC Gaming Show.

Corneria stage StarFox gameplay:
//youtube.com/watch?v=jFCegtLVi00

I just fuckin closed the tab to the PC Gaming stream.

Its just

i dont want to watch it anymore.

>>196026
http://gonintendo.com/stories/236055-starfox-zero-platinum-partnership-multiplayer-online-considere

http://gonintendo.com/stories/236043-starfox-zero-co-op-detailed

http://gonintendo.com/stories/236058-starfox-zero-another-round-of-details-gameplay-controls-and-m

>>196027
Beyond Total War: Warhammer (which fingers should be crossed on, given Rome II's horrific launch) and American Truck Simulator, that was two-and-a-half hours of boredom. Even EA's conference sparked some interest and emotion.

Personally, I think Dreams the most exciting thing I saw from Sony, making me consider actually getting a PS4 just to play it. Main thing I ran into with Little Big Planet was that I'd know how to start something but couldn't think of a satisfying way to make it into a complete level, so I like the whole shared dreamscape idea it has that lets people make a fragment and let it be part of a greater environ.

Unraveled, incidentally, didn't make me think of LBP just because it's supposedly made to be a more somber/emotional thing in a metaphorical kind of way. What with tying together things that represent memories and someone's past, as opposed to the imagination and creating.

The more I think about the FF7 Remake, the more I realize just how fucking insane this is.
Like,
holy fuck,
Squenix.
What the fuck are you doing?
There's so much shit in this game. Just the amount of fucking enemy models you'll have to make. There's no cutting costs by using palette swaps, like in any game of later eras where modeling has become so much more involved and expensive. There's like a trillion unique enemies. and all the fucking mini games. And many of the areas don't work when translated 1:1 to 3D, because they totally fucked with scale and perspective. Just making fucking Midgar should cost as much as making a completely new mainline FF.
Fucking hell.
Let's all buy FFXV and Tomb Raider and the new Hitman and Dude Sex and subscribe to FFXIV, just to keep this fucking company afloat. Though to be serious, I'm already planning on getting XV and DE:MD.

>>196055
>What the fuck are you doing?
Hitting the panic button?

>>196056
But why? They have no reason to. They're doing quite well, thanks to FFXIV.

>>196055

FF7R is going to make Squeenix a MOTHERFUCKING SHITLOAD of money. Shit, I'm thinking about buying it when it comes out, and I don't even fucking own a PS4. Whatever the game costs to make, Squeenix will likely make it back—or at least come close. Squeenix wouldn't be sinking costs into this game if the higher-ups thought they wouldn't make bank with it.

And I highly doubt Squeenix is going to do a 1:1 remake of the game down to every last detail. They’re going to adapt and change whatever is necessary for things to work in a “proportionally correct” fully-3D world; they’re also likely to cut out or rework a fair amount of the story, too. (God knows Barrett could use a whole new script, and this would give Squeenix the chance to make Yuffie and Vincent part of the story instead of just “bonus” characters.)

This isn’t gonna be some half-assed “slap a fresh coat of paint on it” HD remaster or a weak-ass cash-grab that everyone forgets about in a day. This is likely to be as “definitive” a version of FF7 as we’ll ever see—a version no longer hampered by the limitations of design and technology that plagued the original game. I remain cautious about this project and reserve the right to withdraw any positive feelings I have for it upon seeing what Squeenix does with it; for now, I remain optimistic about where this project is headed.

And frankly, I want to see how Squeenix portrays Aerith’s death this time around.

I never finished FF7. I just played it once and got up to this desert area where I lost interest.

I'd really like to go back to the game one day but I think I'm more likely to just play the pc version of the old game than get the remake. Honestly I've never really understood why so many people get so excited about remakes of games.

>>196061
For the same reason people want to see anime asaptions of manga they've already read. They want to revisit something they've already loved with the hope of getting a fresh feeling of wonder while doing so. And prettying it up a lot does that.

>>196061
This has built up HL3 levels of hype at this point. Plus, there's a lot at stake here. Think about it, Ocarina of Time 3D is barely a remake. If Nintendo had completely remade the game like if it were made today, there'd be a shitload of risks they'd have to take, and a LOT to live up to, since OoT is one of the greatest games ever made. No, shut up. It is. And so is FF7. I don't care what you think about the actual games, the fact is they've had an almost incalculable impact on the entire industry.

So to remake something like FF7, they have to not only live up to the original, but surpass it, and not alienate their fans and ruin their image with both the general public and any potential investors that might look at the remake, think it's not very good, and say "Well, they're just not what they used to be." And be scared away from buying SE games ever again. This is not just any remake, or any game. This is not something they can just brush off and say "Oh well, play the original, better luck next time." This is the game that will decide SE's entire future.

If Black Mesa was made by Valve, and not fans, there would probably be an equal amount of hype. Because at the end of the day, it's an interpretation by fans, not the vision of the original creators. I have faith that SE can pull this off, because according to that trailer, all of the old team is coming back to man the helm.

SE is pretty shit nowadays, look for dumb shit on the level of Genesis/Deepground being added to the remake.

I just realized. The hype over FF7R on the internet is gonna be so huge that a ton of "normies" and younger generations are going to pick this game up fopr the first time. We might witness millions of oblivious people seeing Aeris die all over again. Twitter and Facebook are going to explode. Oh my God, now I can imagine what it must've felt like for GoT book readers when the Red Wedding drew near.

I have to say, despite the performances being wooded at times, Square Enix delivered a great E3 show. It wasn't Western driven as some expected it to be; there was a nice balance of Western and Japanese games. And Nier getting a sequel was a delightful surprise. There's no financial reason why Nier 2 should exist, but Square Enix is moving forward with it because it's what fans want. On top of that, it's a Nier game developed by Platinum Games!

Also, as looked down upon as mobile games are, Lara Croft Go and Kingdom Hearts Unchained actually looked charming. The end announcement of Square Enix creating a JRPG studio to produce JRPGs shows how far the company has come. Square Enix is really getting back to its former glory.

>>196064

>all of the old team is coming back to man the helm

And this is the most important aspect of FF7R: the people who “ran the show” then are the same people “running the show” now…just with 18 years of added experience working on games under their belt. They’re not gonna want to ruin the magic of their original game with a remake that doesn’t do the original justice. The FF7R crew has resources and knowledge they didn’t have 18 years ago; they’ll use both to create an FF7 that was likely closer to their original vision than the PSOne could’ve ever allowed them to reach—the “definitive” FF7.

Apparently Nomura confirmed cross dressing which does a lot to ease my worries about them cutting all the goofy shit.

Course some of it also needs to go. Like the racism.

>>196074
There was racism?

>>196079

Let’s see, there was…oh yeah, a good chunk of Barrett’s script.

>>196080
Ah piddy da #!$&%? foo who gets offended at an angry black man who has pretty justifiable reasons for being a short-tempered foul-mouthed leader of an illegal organisation in the present

Barrett being Terrorist Mr. T is cute in a 1997 ps1 game.

It would be considerably less cute now, rendered with photorealistic designs.

All FF7 needs to do is to piss off Belts and Zippers by having Cloud perfectly dress up as his wifu, Lightning, and whoever voices him needs to do their best pissed off Ali Hillis impersonation.

Fallout 4 looks like Beth has admitted that they can't really write a Main Story worth shit and are focusing more on showing off more side activities that you can get lost wasting hundreds of hours doing as you forget about saving Tamriel/The Wasteland. There will probably be lots of bugs, but what matters is the specs for PC and if Todd makes another deal with the devil to turn Beth.net into some extra slice of DRM or announces late in September that Fallout 4 is Win 10 exclusive. Still mad about about what they did with FO3.

But the worst part of E3 by a landslide was the PC event. Jesus Christ, what a fat lot of nothing but shame that was.

>>196080
Might've been the infamous terrible English translation. I played it in German and I can't remember a single bit of racist stuff.

>>196082
Yeah. Now it would just be vaguely arousing.

>>196083
>All FF7 needs to do is to piss off Belts and Zippers by having Cloud perfectly dress up as his wifu, Lightning
...you realize that Nomura and Toriyama are not the same person right?

So they're actually doing a remake?
They finally achieved their stipulation that they'd only do a remake if the entire original staff could get together for it??

//youtube.com/watch?v=GJ84glIAfWc

>>196091
People can't seem to understand that each FF game has almost an entirely different creative team working on it, unlike other games with sequels.

>>196092

I doubt it’s the entire original staff working on it, but they appear to have the main players on board.

>>196091
>>196097
Yeah so let's be clear here:
1. Nomura has nothing to do with FF13 or indeed most titles beyond being a character designer. Toriyama is the one obsessed with Lightning.
2. Nomura was the creator of most of the original FF7's story and characters and the director of the remake.
3. Nomura is keeping the cross dressing.

So let's just dispell all of that insanity now.

>>196102
I don't get it, is it some kind of dank new meme? I can't tell because Aisha Tyler hasn't told me yet.

>>196104

It's Shenmue-flavored fanart of GameTrailers’ E3 crew reacting to the Shenmue 3 reveal during their live coverage of the Sony presser; see >>>>195898 for a link to the video.

>>196102
It's really cute how Japanese creators don't expect this much enthusiasm from US players. They say people in Japan are much more reserved and quiet. When Nomura walked out at a KH convention recently, he said he was shocked and overwhelmed by how much energy western fans had.

Treehouse Starfox:
//youtube.com/watch?v=GusfUpoF-GM

According to Austin and Vinny, the new Deus Ex has air dashing.

>>195925
>Tumblr hates it too because it has tribal themes and yet has white people.

>Tribe: From Middle English, from Old French tribu, from Latin tribus.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tribe

Yup, no such thing as white tribal folks.

>>196122
They probably think it's "cultural appropriation", as if things like wearing buckskins or braiding your hair is a custom sacred or unique to Native American tribespeople in the same way that, say, war bonnets and two-spirit identities are. I hate what Tumblr has done to that term. It's a real thing, for stuff like that early 2000's Kabbalah craze which basically treated a Jewish tradition like an aesthetic or hardcore wiggers, but they take it waaay out of control to describe things like white people bellydancing or wearing kimonos and consuming sushi.

For fuck's sake I've seen someone unironically claim that white people listening to Bohemian Rhapsody is appropriation because Freddy Mercury was Parsi (ignoring for now the murky issue of how people of Iranian descent self-identify), notwithstanding the fact that the song is a commercial product made for consumption by the British public (who is primarily white) and therefore doesn't even come close to counting.

Xavier Wood's on Giant Bomb, talking about the Nier guy.

>>196128
none of the things you describe actually happen

stop inventing enemies to get mad at

>>196120
Getting cautiously excited over here.

>>196135
Nice try, but nope.
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/04/why_i_cant_stand_white_belly_dancers/
http://www.complex.com/style/2013/08/clothes-white-people-shouldnt-wear/kimono
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/25/cultural-appropriation-katy-perry_n_4337024.html
http://thisisnotjapan.tumblr.com/post/39701055486/faq (not as extreme as the previous one)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/08/27/mashiko_s_open_letter_to_bigots_white_sushi_chefs_discrimination_and_racism.html
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2014/05/gotten-paranoid-cultural-appropriation/

As for the last one I can't find the specific post but I can tell you it's from the person responsible for the CD-i Hyrule Warriors edits.

>>196135
Have you been living under a rock the last few years? People on Tumblr being stupid and misusing terms isn't exactly uncommon you know.

If FF7R is as successful as it is clearly going to be... does that mean Squeenix will remake other Final Fantasys?

Like, HD Polygonal remake of Final Fantasy 3/6?

>>196141
Nope. VII is a very unique case. No other Final Fantasy had such an impact on the shape of videogames today.

>>196141
Yeah, the director of the FFVII remake already said that he noticed that everything up to 7 has been remade but 5 and 6 and that he thinks he would really like to get to those. And even before that, 5 and 6 were mentioned as targets for a remake in the style of FF3DS and FF4DS but that the systems couldn't handle what they would want to do.

So I'd say a 5 and a 6 remake are fairly likely. Don't know about 8 or 9.

>>196142

And 7 was a unique case in terms of design with the SD characters outside of battle and the normally-proportioned characters in battle. It made for an odd disconnect when watching cutscenes that involved one design and cutscenes that involved the other. 7 is a chance for Squeenix to fix that issue - one neither 8 nor 9 had, if I recall - by creating a unified design for the game.

>>196137
>>196138
>shitposting is funny when we do it and evil when dipshit wannabe activists do it

"gamers", everyone

>>196146
What's got you so glum?

>>196147
>SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT GAMERS!
>NOPE TO THE RESCUE!

>>196147
It's just the same shitposter as always. Just ignore it.

>>196150
Will do.

>>196157
Didn't know Japan cared about dem Westren gaems.

>>196160
Just as we have Wiiaboos they have Westaboos

>>196145
So...Cloud is the son of Popeye?

>>196168
It took you this long to realize this?

>>196168
I'M CLOUD STRIFE, T'SWORD WIELDING MAAAAAN
I REALLY COULD USE A TAAAAAN
MY COMPANION HAS AN ARM GUN
AND THE OTHER HAS BIG ONES
I'M CLOUD STRIFE, T'SWORD WIELDING MAAAAAN

>>196181

I’m thinking they didn’t fully intend this as a shout-out to Mega Man 2…but I’m gonna treat it as one anyway.

//youtube.com/watch?v=ggKKCyJXHOA

yes

//youtube.com/watch?v=_V1MoMxBcck

>>196116
The stages lok barren as hell and the fact that everyone demoing the game seems to have problems with the controls is pretty troubling

>>196005
Again, where the hell are the enemies? Why is Slippy not the one in trouble? What even is this?


It's so close to looking goot, but fuck me if it doesn't appear to have fallen flat on its face with what we've seen thus far.

>>196188
Agreed. I LIKE the aesthetic and I still think it feels quite empty. Especially compared to the GC's Assault. Which, for whatever faults it had, had a brilliant opening sequence.

//youtube.com/watch?v=qNbclYPSQiQ

Just dissecting that and comparing it to the more recent space mission in Platinum Fox.
But honestly I consider it nitpicking on my part - I'm really excited for the game so far.

Yo if you checked out of the Giant Bomb night shows this year, you have missed perhaps one of the top 5 segments of all time with this Boyes-Lang-Johnny V segment.