/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

Remember to use spoilers. Now that early copies are out we'll probably get a lot of details quickly.

For instance, rumor is that Konami and Snake's VA are mentioned in the credits.
Also this image of Duck Hunt Dog. Along with this: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/11/new-super-smash-bros-characters-confirmed-in-stream Dark Pit, Duck Hunt Dog, Ganondorf

Dark Pit from Kid Icarus: Uprising and the Duck Hunt Dog are two of the new characters set to enter the arena, while Ganondorf, Mr. Game and Watch, Ness and Falco all return once you've beaten Classic Mode enough times. Dr. Mario is also set to be playable, along with Wario, ROB and Jigglypuff.

As for Bowser Jr., who was rumoured to be a new character in the earlier leak, there's no news one way or the other.

Bowser Jr. is confirmed; his alternate ‘colors’ are, according to NeoGAF, the Koopalings.

On the one hand it would be a good way to contain the spoilers for people who don't want to know. On the other hand we already have a fighting game thread and a Nintendo thread.

>>190085
Exactly. This game could fall in either, but as conversations were being carried across two threads, it became needlessly messy. So now this is the one thread to discuss anything Smash Bros-related, official or unofficial, whereas the fighting game thread will continue about other fighting games and the Nintendo thread will continue about other Nintendo games.

>>190088
But I heard if you beat Classic mode 100 times in a row with no deaths using only Rosalina you unlock Reggie!

>>190087
It wouldn't be that hard to just pick one but whatever.

What a shame. I don't play videogames much any more but I was thinking about making an exception for smash. This roster's just too disappointing.

Rob and DayDayDay get new final smashes; Jiggs has the same final smash only now it is somehow even worse.

The roster looks fine to me, and Nintendo could always extend it via DLC just as they’ve done with Mario Kart 8. BTW: sorry, Ridley fans! Better luck next console generation!

Wolf cut. Ice Climbers cut. two copy paste jobs in Dark Pit and Lucina added. regular Pit gets all new specials. Ganon still the same. Dark Pit featured in his trophy poses and portraitwith a rifle he never uses like Ganons sword taunt. Toon Link still a slightly faster Link clone and nothing more. tons of "race"/ climb stages in the 3DS version. for glory mode still only has final destination as its stage rather than cycling between it and battlegrounds. all characters still have tons of recovery frames for most of their moves.
5/10
They almost tried.

The new Classic mode, the big roster and the fast gameplay all look great. I got pretty much everybody I wanted except for Ganondorf as a non-clone, and for that little I can let slide.

And now to wait three weeks for it to actually come out.

I think Duck Hunt Dog might be the best new addition.
>>190094
People were going to complain no matter who was added.
>>190095
The rifle is used in his final smash

>>190090
Even as small as +4 is, expecting everyone to agree to one or the other is a bit of a stretch, and then if someone new comes in they won't know to use Fighting thread if Nintendo General is on top or vice-versa. Smash thread solves that.

>>190092
Who is in that you think shouldn't be? Who isn't in that should?

DA CUNT confirmed
I ain't even mad, I think it's adorable as fuck.

>>190094
I really hope they don't make a habit out of it.

Rumor is DC has different breeds for alts. That's so cute.

>>190102
I kind of do. Part of the reason Team Fortress 2 is so freaking popular after, what, seven years? is that Valve keeps releasing content for it, rejuvenating interest. While this does allow them to put off making Half LifeTeam Fortress 3, I'm okay with that, especially since most of the content they add is free.

While I'm sure Nintendo will want a new version of SSB for the Wii Mi (or whatever stupid name they come up with for their next console), in the interim releasing new fighters/arenas/etc. for Sm4sh will keep the active base far larger, meaning more re-playability. Paid is fine, too, so long as it's reasonably priced.

I'd rather they use their budget and time to make an extremely well-crafted experience, then add more fighters over time once that solid base is there. Though as it stands our roster is 49 characters, which seems an incredibly high amount even if some are copypasta and I wouldn't be surprised if they eschew DLC altogether.

>>190105
I actually uninstalled TF2 for a while just because it kept bloating in hard drive space, and so much of it was pay store stuff and tie-in exclusives I would never get.

>>190119
>Nigel
YES. I will use this face and, every time I win, I will make his noise.

>>190119

This is just the best.

>>190119
>Goldberg
>Nintendos
>Jackie
I'm dying.

and the custom move spoilers slowly roll in...
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Character_customization

Ganon can finally use that stupid sword.

>>190127
New3DS can get fucked.
I can not describe just how angry I am especially since I just bought a 3DS less than a year ago along with a circle pad pro.

And in another year or two maybe they'll put out a version with an actual second stick.

>>190127
While it annoys me that they made the game such that it fucks with current users before they even have the option of purchasing 4DS, I'd rather have a better game.

>>190128
Even if they do it in a few more years, it will get as much traction as the DSi's camera did, if that. If they released it now it might be early enough for most companies to offer an enhanced control scheme to make use of it.

>>190129
I wonder if the New 3DS is powerful enough to run Pokemon in 3D all the time instead of just in specific areas.

>>190129
>While it annoys me that they made the game such that it fucks with current users before they even have the option of purchasing 4DS, I'd rather have a better game.

If it's a limitation of hardware, it sounds to me like what you're saying is "If they couldn't have made it work on one piece of hardware, they should have refrained from making it work on ANY hardware." In other words: "If I can't have (feature X), no one should be allowed to have (feature X)."

Samus customs from treehouse stream:
Neut B can charge and release a blast. Quick charge, melee range only
Down B can lay a large bomb with a long fuse
Side B can make missiles that go extremely fast after a brief pause when shot

>>190133
No, I was trying to say "If it came down to having a better game or having to lower game capability to allow Miiverse/Browser to run at the same time, I would prefer having a better game (which is what they did.)" However, if they didn't know they would have a more powerful model to fall back on in the near future they might have worked harder to further optimize the game, allowing Miiverse/Browser to run and have the same quality in the game.

Japan only has to wait a month after release to get their hands on a 4DS, so they'll be forced to deal with the crippled functionality for only a short time. The rest of the world gets the game in a month, but there's not even a release window announcement for the 4DS for the rest of the world. Unless Nintendo wants to do a surprise Holiday announcement, we'll have to wait many, many months before we have the same option to upgrade.

None of this affects me personally, anyway, since I never use the browser or Miiverse while playing a game and I doubt I would have started with Smash 3DS.

>>190137
People are stupid. The first two don't surprise me; the third reminds me of people putting original Wiis up for sale after popularity skyrockets for $1500 or some shit. Someone who was just informed that this is hot stuff and thought it was far more rare/desired than it is. What will be fun is how at least half of codes put out like this will just be put back up for auction at a higher price. That's assuming Nintendo doesn't bother to look up accounts and try to match them, of course.

Meanwhile, the club.nintendo site is getting slammed.

Does the demo save data even transfer to the main game?

>>190139
You get the coins

Japanese Smash launch.

http://instagram.com/p/s3aqvsh5IA/

>>190140
No you don't

>>190144
I liked them. Wasn't the best at them, they had a lame Final Smash, and Brawl's broken mechanics made them more annoying than they needed to be, but they had a fairly creative moveset and were an interesting choice considering where they came from.

>>190148
That "30 uses" thing is also how the Bravely Default and Etrian Odyssey Untold demos worked, as I recall. It might be the default for all 3DS demos, but I don't download enough to be certain.

In the case of the later two, there's also a point in the story when the demo cuts out, so I don't know if the Smash demo is going to have further limitations as well.

>>190148
>>190149
I downloaded some demos before that had as low as 5 uses. Let's be thankful they didn't go with that.

why would they do that?

>>190152
To make the elite few big spenders feel more prestigious.

So, snake is out, but people keep saying the Japanese voice actor is in the credits.

Jesus. Just mentioning the word "Smash" and "code" on social media is getting me begging replies. I do think this is a great tactic, though. This code sharing promotion from Destiny and Smash gets the word to fans and any newcomers. Only downside I could see from this is that Nintendo is cementing Smash as a 3DS game, when it's the Wii U version (and the system itself) that needs this type of marketing. It could even hurt Wii U sales, if the game is indeed delayed to 2015.

>>190155
He voices Samurai Goroh.

Combos confirmed for Smash 4:
//youtube.com/watch?v=DS_rV3lfSpY

Also people keep finding trophies of Brawl vets: Ice Climbers, Pokemon Trainer and Prospects: Chorus Kids

If there IS DLC it's highly unlikely characters with trophies will make it in. Which is saddening for me because I really wanted Krystal to finally be in a decent game.

>>190160
Not surprising.

>>190161
>it's highly unlikely characters with trophies will make it in.
Why?

>>190164
Trophy's already in the system using a recycled model more than likely and talking about none-gameplay aspects of the character. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it is highly improbable that such characters would become playable.

In any case I'm willing to be they'll release the DLC at around the same time the WiiU version comes out which means I have to decide if a next gen system is worth my time, let alone a Nintendo one.

Welp:

http://www.vg247.com/2014/04/07/smash-bros-6-namco-job-post-says-new-game-is-coming-to-wii-u-3ds-in-2015/

And stream:
http://www.twitch.tv/tourneylocator
(looking REALLY damn good)

>>190166
I think the posting is weird, if the translation has any accuracy (doubt it), but calling it "Smash Bros 6" isn't odd. While Sm4sh was intended to be a mutual release for both systems, the internal names could be "SSB4" for the 3DS and "SSB5" for the Wii U, considering the order of release.

I don't think Smash isn't a game that offers itself up to yearly installments. More likely it's for DLC.

This Pac-Man remix is off the hook (kids still say "off the hook," right?)

//youtube.com/watch?v=AwQAHlYXtXY

Can't wait to hear the Wii U version.

>>190168
Not bad, but we already have the best version of the theme:
//youtube.com/watch?v=ruNFScwi4-o

>>190169
>>190168
Both pretty good, but I feel this one tops them all

//youtube.com/watch?v=JjGKjs5yuVw

>>190167
I hope it's DLC and not a rerelease aka Super Smash Brothers IV Ultra?

>>190173
Maybe it's the rerelease with DLC already included.

Snake pls come back.
You were my main in The Shitty Game.

After TTS I always wanted some way to have him in Melee.
And then my dream came true but
sigh

Sakurai, aren't you bffs with Kojima?
Make it happen, man.

>>190176
Fuck. I haven't used my 3DS that much, hopefully that won't happen to me. Can you use the D-Pad instead of the stick?

>>190178
Conspiracy! I was going to get an 4DS at some point, but if my analog stick ruptures like that I would be more likely to pick it up at launch.

>>190176
I've been playing the demo a ton lately and I can't say I feel that happening to my circle pad at all. I suppose some can get pretty enthusiastic when they play, but it also sounds to me some are just being unnecessarily rough.

>Lucina has the exact same custom moves Marth does
Called it.

Most worthless clone of all time. Literal copy pasta.

http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments/b/568701712

>>190185

>muh slots

And here I thought I'd escaped /v/'s idiocy

>>190188
Did I say anything about slots? No I did not.
The dev team could have spend 5 minutes giving her at least unique weight and movement, but they didn't. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with her if she at least had different custom moves, but she doesn't. Even Dark Pits specials are a little different.

And I won't even touch how Palutania gets 12 completely unique moves, yet Toon Link is still just a faster Link.

I'm excited for the game, but I feel that they really dropped the ball in a few spots were they mis-invested time and resources.

>>190189
He just wanted an easier to use Marth without the technical sweet spot mechanic.
It only made sense to make Lucina into a Marth clone since she's a Marth cosplayer.

Lucy sucks, push Lyn for 9th Gen Smash.

>>190195
Can we get a character that uses something other than a sword instead?

>>190194
Ya, but I've got to agree she should have at least had different custom moves.

>>190197
So you're saying push Emphraim, replete with horse and lance? Like the Jojo ASB SBR characters?

>>190224
Wario's bike that is.

//youtube.com/watch?v=YDikQiU9fC0
NOW it's a fighting game.

>>190230
Seems like you should be able to ukemi out of that.

>>190245
Based 3DS delivering us from desyncing wooble wobble bullshit and shitty pulls on Random.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/will-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-be-delayed-history-says-maybe/

The Wii U doesn't have any other big-selling game, other than Smash. If Nintendo can't get this game out before Black Friday, things are gonna get ugly.

Almost all customization options have been logged:
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Character_customization

Toon Link and Black Pit both get unique customs, Lucina's two revealed customs are the same as Marths. Hilarious really. In addition to Fox being trash apparently, his customs are pretty lame too.

Lucina vs Marth gameplay:
//youtube.com/watch?v=z6ZcWokoGQg

Both looking pretty similar (not seeing the speed difference a few people keep parroting is there) with Lucina having a slight edge on the 3DS and early days of the game due to not having to worry about tipping.

>>190257
They really should've timed releases better.
A (Hypothetical New Main Series) Super Mario game, Mario Kart 8, Sm4sh, Hyrule Warriors and Bayo2 launched with a few months in between.

Would've been killer.

Also who knows why MGSV isnt' getting a Wii U release even though its hardware is stronger than the 360.

>>190274
Same reason most other AAA companies are avoiding the Wii U, I think: demographics. The general perception is that those who have a Wii U are generally "Nintendo fans", and that this group doesn't overlap well with your MGS, FF, GTA, or COD groups. I think it overlaps a lot more than companies think (I, personally, enjoy some Mario platforming and Zelda adventuring before I get to some TF2 headshootin' and RE scarin'), but perception is stronger than reality when it comes to decision making, and no company will care anyway since the Wii U console sales are still lukewarm at best.

Speaking of RE, I find it more odd that RE:R2 isn't coming to the 3DS or Wii U despite the offshoot starting life on the 3DS.

>>190276
>that this group doesn't overlap well with your MGS, FF, GTA, or COD groups
GTA and COD you're probably pretty safe on. MGS is a borderline case. But I think you'll find that the Nintendo fanbase has more overlap with FF fans than the GTA or COD fanbases do.

>>190278
Agreed about FF fans, but for some reason even Squeenix and other jRPG devs ignore Nintendo's console when it comes to core entries. Of course, when they don't America still gets shafted. (Operation Rainfall games for a while, Tales of Graces Wii never got an NA release.) Hell, even the 360 got Tales of Vesperia.

I've always wanted Nintendo to make an original FPS. I guess they're kind of doing that with Splatoon, but that seems more like a side project. They have series with guns (Metroid, Star Fox), and even have the Metroid Prime series, but that was still a second-party project. A Miyamoto- or Sakurai- led FPS project would be extremely interesting.

>>190279
The thing is, I don't think Japan cares about the FPS genre at all, and I don't think Nintendo is generally in the business of making games specifically for the American audience.

>>190280
Yeah, Japan doesn't have much interest in FPS; however, FPS is a huge genre in Europe and Australia (though some governments force babby versions), so it's not about appealing to an American audience, it's about appealing to an audience that isn't Japanese. Japan still has a huge game industry despite the waning interest in gaming by the Japanese themselves (most moving to smartphones for gaming, to my knowledge, which have smaller budgets), and if they can't expand their offerings many will collapse upon themselves. That's the reason Squeenix bought Eidos and did the Tomb Raider reboot and Deus Ex: Human Revolution (though that was probably in development before the purchase was official).

With the release on the horizon I have made a thing that I hope some of you may find useful. Too big to post here though:
http://imgur.com/ATYajKk

>>190280
Nintendo is only just now realizing that Japan doens't make up 98% of the gaming public in the globe.

>>190284
Neat! Thanks for making it. I haven't given a single thought to custom moves, though.

>>190282
If the devs don't have any interest in making that sort of game though, it seems a bit harsh to force them to simply because that's the cookie cutter solution the market demands.

I guess directional influence is super charged this time around to the point where people are already doom saying it as ruined forever.
But they were probably going to do that anyways
That just what they like to do.

>>190305
I have no clue what you're going on about, but I'm going to assume it has something to do with that "vectoring" buzzword I've seen floating about since this morning.

Yeah, instead of altering your trajectory to the left or the right you can straight out later your vector.
In brawl if you got hit straight up all you could do is move left or right.
In smash 4 if you get hit straight up, you can hold down and actually reduce how far you go.

>>190308
Ah I heard about that a few days ago on a steam when people were wondering why KO's weren't happening at 120%+, guess it has a name now.
Hoping whenever the next patch is that that's addressed, however I bet it was done intentionally. Regardless to say I'm not too thrilled with it; but it doesn't ruin the game too much. At least from what I've seen. It just makes matches longer and KOs more annoying.

>>190310
You can accelerate your vector, too, eliminating combos

>>190308
I thought that was already the case, from Game 1 actually.

>>190313
Basically, but now it's supercharged.

So we know the demo is available for all tomorrow; does anyone happen to know an hour? Like, is it midnight, and I could go to bed early and wake up early and get some Smash in before going to work? Noonish? Whenever they think their servers can handle the rush?

>>190329
Word on the street is either 4AM or noon eastern.

Also here's this:
//youtube.com/watch?v=iZPxLLaL4N8

>>190336
>noon eastern
This was the correct answer, the demo is now live for everyone.

>>190336
The butthurt about this on ehubs is huge even though it's not really that big of a deal. I just see it as a way for "heavy" characters that are usually shit in the game to get a little better.

>>190342
Naturally that is when I got into work today. Oh well it's not that big a deal since the game is out in two weeks and we already know everything.

>>190343
>Oh well it's not that big a deal since the game is out in two weeks and we already know everything.
Yes, but it's one thing to know and another to experience.

I made sure to download it before I left for work and have my 3DS in my pocket. Gonna play a round every time I take a break.

A tribute to Brawl Diddy:
//youtube.com/watch?v=HlnA4KuqXG

>>190379

>that image

That is all kinds of great.

>>190379
Do you have one for the Villager?

Can't decide on a main or someone to try? Load it up, click then drag.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-23-2014/Dv0RAl.gif

Don't much care for the community, but they've made a handy little timestamp guide for some great Japanese matches from a 7 hour stream session:
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2h887e/effort_post_large_high_level_japanese_tournament/

>>190434
First go I got Villager, second Duck Hunt. It must really want me to try a newcomer.

Sweet lord some of these are crazy ass broken...
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Equipment

And here I was thinking you'd get bonuses like 0.5% faster smash charge rate. Little things like that. Gaining invincibility? What horseshit is this?

I was so godamn excited for custom moves too... guess I have to thank them for making it friends only. At least that way we can have gentleman's rules.

>>190451
The only one that seems so bad is Caloric Immortal.

>>190452
Anything immortal

And don't forget the equipment effects will stack.

>>190452
>>190454
Also Vampire and the one that gives you a 20% chance to use a second final smash after you used one and the one that grants you a shitload of invincibility after a respawn.

>>190454
Sounds like it just gives you a super star once a condition is met. Hardly worth worrying about.

>>190456
It doesn't say that it spawns a super star. You gain the effect of the super star once the condition is met and you'd have to be crazy to not see how big of a problem that is, especially when it's as easy as hitting 100%

All Custom Moves revealed:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=c2xywrva

ScarfLord (ZeRo) streaming 100 continual hours of smash 4. 65 hours in):
http://www.twitch.tv/ZeRo

>>190470
all i can see here is glorious 60 fps

I've been wondering, where did they get the idea for the smash emblem?
It's very iconic, but it doesn't seem to connect to anything about the game itself. Very curious.

>>190478
Same. I just love *looking* at how good the game looks.

>>190478
>>190482
tHOSE GRAPHICS WON'T MEAN MUCH IF THE GAME'S FILLED WITH BROKEN STUFF LIKE THAT.

>>190485

Dude, that's just a slightly goofy hitbox interaction.

>>190526
As in "Oh man I can't believe he likes Sm4sh" or "I can't believe the community would split up so badly."

All custom moves have been logged:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=c2xywrva

Solid Pacman gameplay: //youtube.com/watch?v=Fb9xMK5eT-4

>>190528
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-vQf5rVyPXBqMLvjBS8Pma0ZIC_32eG9

>4 more days

//youtube.com/watch?v=g-Pad2bR11Y

The music is so perfect.

>>190554
Heh. But a (red) fox's lifespan in the wild is about 5 years, so we've been playing a ghost this whole time...

>>190555
You MUST have wondered at some point why Fox's design changes so heavily from game to game.

Touché!

//youtube.com/watch?v=T9VDVdkNe8k
>2 days

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/38631/lack-of-circle-pad-pro-support-for-super-smash-bros-for-nintendo-3ds-explained-by-director
>Smash Bros. and Kid Icarus: Uprising director Masahiro Sakurai explained the problem in a recent issue of Famitsu magazine: "Supporting the Circle Pad Pro requires the use of some of the CPU's processing load." They found while developing Uprising that it took "around 5%" of the handheld system's processing power.
Huh. I didn't think the Circle Pad Pro would use that much processing power.

So there's a day-one patch that anyone wanting to play online will have to install. However, they've made it available already, so you can download it now without having to have the game installed/bought first:

http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/11692/p/430

Splitting of Sheik/Zelda and Samus/ZSS are also due to 3DS limitations: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/02/zelda-and-sheik-separated-in-new-super-smash-bros-due-to-3ds-limitations
>"It’s basically due to the 3DS’ limitations,” said Sakurai. “It was impossible to have both characters exist together [as one] on 3DS. However, reaching that limit can sometimes lead in good directions. Transforming characters had the drawback of ambiguous tactics and such, and I believe that they have become more fresh now.”
As a programmer, I wonder what the technical limitations were. My guess would be memory: consoles could load data for both forms at once, effectively having five characters loaded for the battle but only four in battle at any given time. The 3DS's memory (128 MB FCRAM, 6 MB VRAM) can't handle this for some reason. Which doesn't sound right, because the Gamecube (43 MB total non-unified RAM, 24MB main) and Wii (88 MB main memory) were both able to do it with less RAM.

So it's either a processor thing (plausible) or it's due to the further-increased character models that would take up a lot more RAM.

//youtube.com/watch?v=I6cfMjzUkRA
Fox what the fuck happened to your voice.

>>190622
You're also looking at an optimal situation where there's only one double-character. What about matches with Samus, Zelda, Pokemon Trainer, and Ice Climbers on the same field? That's not 5 characters, that's 10. Plus Assist Trophies and Pokeball-released Pokemon and shit like that, and any extra character models that get loaded by the Final Smashes (like in Megaman's, for example).

//youtube.com/watch?v=H0MxegSdDRA

>>190631
He's the old 64 voice actor.
You can here it in one of his win screen taunts "Returning to base"

"FYYYAH" is still really damn painful though.

Also to unlock Jigglypuff, get 100% on the classic mode portrait during the credits. Did it with Bowser on 5.0 difficulty

>>190651
Wolf was always better as a Space Russian than a Space Mad Max biker anyway.

Also Fox got his stuff more or less but better since Wolf wasn't very good

I'm having a lot of fun with Little Mac, but his aerials suck and his recovery is even worse so I have no clue how to effectively edge guard with him.

>>190665
Yeah that's been pointed out as a big thing about him from day 1. Probably the best is to just hit them so hard they get KO'd promptly.

https://www.youtube.com/user/GilvaSunner/videos

Is this seriously all the music in the game? Really? The Wii U version better have a lot more, because as it stands this is pathetic. Brawl probably had at least 20 more than this.

>>190670
And you can listen to it in sleepmode!
Awesome, now I got even more tracks to listen to at work.

Too bad I don't think those could translate well in spanish.

So custom moves and Mii parts are not removed from the "draw" pool when you spin the roulette wheel or do any other sort of unlocking method...

Getting all 300+ custom moves just got so much more painful.

Also a little disappointed that the equipment doesn't mix and match what it lowers which could lead to some interesting builds.

And why are most of the unlockable characters veterans?

>>190686
It kills hype to have all the characters you've been hyping up not available from the get go

Anyone getting (or have gotten) the CD? I was thinking about getting the 3DS version for one of my nephews. I still have my SMASHING Live! but lost the sleeve.

gotta love that Japanese Accuracy

Wii U version confirmed for Nov. 21.

While I don't have a Wii U right now, I will get one eventually so I might get it anyway so I can get the Smash CD. And it's not like Nintendo ever lowers their prices so I'm not going to save any money if I put off buying it.

>>190699
There's a pretty good chance they'll also release a bundle for the console and game. That might save you a few dollars.

>>190701
Yeah, they almost certainly will, but I have to see how long that CD offer lasts; they might not do so until next year.

Another option is that I might be able to buy someone's code through eBay; if so, that would be the cheapest/easiest route for the CD.

>>190699
So it looks like they'll make Black Friday after all. Good for them, hopefully it will give the WiiU the push it needs.

>Sending an opponent flying...right into an inactive Flying Man

//youtube.com/watch?v=gd9ltJGykYc

http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/09/super-smash-bros-3ds-rom-dump-stage-dlc/
I'm kind of OK with this, considering how long the development time is between Smash games, if they continually release a new character every few months or so as well as minor game engine fixes so it's less broken than Brawl, that would prolong interest in this game and continually get new customers too.

Aye, I'd love to see Smash DLC.

Thats the thing with DLC, if anyone can do it right, its Nintendo.
They've already delivered a rather complete game. DLC is just *more* game.

>>190727
Am I missing something? While I fully expect DLC, I don't see how that is "proof". If the text they list matches the stage selection screen perfectly, maybe that's because... it's the text from the stage selection screen? An empty square only means they didn't have enough stages to make six even rows, like the character roster that expands as you unlock characters (in fact, this probably did the same thing as you unlocked stages!). What, are they only going to release one DLC stage ever?

Also how do I rotate images.

>>190731
It's mainly the supposed option that says:
>See stages you have downloaded.
But yeah, they don't really do a good job of making that apparent and mentioning how the blank space is where DLC goes without proof is kind of dumb.

>>190732
Ah, I did miss that line; that explains it a bit more, then.

Another alternative, though still DLC, is that they're going to bring back the create-a-stage function. I would like this, as I greatly enjoyed it in Brawl (even if I made very few stages.)

Unlocked all characters, Lucina was last
Then all the stages
Then, assuming that I there was only one wall of challenges, I blew my hammers
Fuck me

And what's with All the street pass stuff? I live in the middle of nowhere so I guess I'm fucked.

>>190748
You could only use the hammers on the respective panel you earned it from (you can earn up to three per panel), so you're fine there. As for the StreetSmash stuff, some of them can actually be earned just through playing the Practice mode.

Unlocked all the characters as well (being Jigglypuff the last one) but haven't unlocked the rest of the stages. I guess you can get them on Smash Run. And it has been a blast!

I still have a lot of everything to unlock. Tried playing some online, but holy shit the lag made one battle a turn-based RPG.

>>190748
>Then, assuming that I there was only one wall of challenges, I blew my hammers
>>190749
>You could only use the hammers on the respective panel you earned it from
Oh, that's good to know. I thought the challenges I saw were kind of weak and haven't used a hammer, but I guess there's no point avoiding it now since I have three hammers and two challenges left.

>Play classic mode on 6.0 difficulty
>lots ofs of red wrenches (15+)
>only 4 are custom moves
>3 are the exact same move

For over a week I have been trying to farm godamn custom moves and the game seems fit to only ever give me duplicates and for characters I don't use.
10/10

>>190797
How are you farming them? While it doesn't help with dupes, Smash Run seems to greatly weight equipment and custom moves toward the character you play as. I think people have also done the math to show it's the fastest way to get customizations in general.

>>190798
Every not and then I do smash runs, but it's just equipment trash more often than not.
Doing Classic mode and hitting Home when the loot wheel is spinning is an easy way to get stuff, but again, it's mostly equipment trash.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/16/super-smash-bros-creator-teases-future-announcement-for-wii-u-version
>Sakurai discussed development of the Nintendo brawler on the Wii U, claiming that the console version is not yet completed.
>not yet completed
>US release is Nov 21
Sure are pushing that deadline.

>>190838
If I had to guess? Mostly just game modes and other things that require no new assets to be created, just different rules and physics options. Things that can be made just by tweaking constants essentially, rather than by programming whole new behaviors.

//youtube.com/watch?v=j0BBGzfw0pQ
>8 player battles; local only, only certain maps
>some larger maps, including Big Battlefield, to accommodate 8 players
>Donkey Kong Return map features foreground and background fighting planes

Still a half hour to watch.

>>190918
Not that interested in Mewtwo, but excited that this confirms downloadable characters as a thing.

>there's a stage that will have Miiverse art posts in the background
There will be so many dicks.

Sh-should I even get the 3DS version at this point??

>>190921
The biggest incentive would be to build up your custom characters on the 3DS version now and then transfer them to the Wii U version when it comes out, so you don't have to go through hunting for all the custom moves for your favorite characters again.

Smash Bros. Wii U status: NINTENDO GAME OF THE FUCKIN' YEAR

>>190922
I was thinking of getting some stuff for Christmas actually - it'd be getting the wii u and 3ds with some games at about the same time.

also

>No voice chat during fites
FUCK

>>190917
Xander Mobus is a fucking awesome name. Also never realize he was the lizard merchant dude in Dust.

>>190924
Is it me or did that sound like Chip Cheezum during that bit?

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/oct/23/mewtwo-revealed-playable-owners-both-super-smash-bros-wii-u-and-3ds-will-be-added-free-dlc-spring-2015/

So free DLC maybe (no source), that's ne-
>available to people who own both versions of the game
Damn nigga that's a good joke.

>>190936
People who only have one can get it too, they just need to pay.

>no single-player Adventure Mode
Damn. At least Event Mode has been made a lot meatier to compensate.

>>190947
I also wanted the final smash to be the fire emblem awakening.
Promotes to great lord and exalted Falchion to have stronger attacks for 10 seconds.

>>190947
They actually didn't mention people paying for it outside of the deal at all. That's just an assumption.

>>190960
He should also get super armor and other buffs, maybe a horse as well. I'd imagine his regular playstyle would incorporate spear and bow attacks too because of his Cavalier and Archer sets. Please for the love of god no more counters though. At this point it'd just be creative laziness.

Smash Run is awesome, Smash Tour looks lame. Seriously, a board game?

>>190973
//youtube.com/watch?v=DX_Rev-HKsM
Some consider it as Smash Bros. meets Mario Party.

>>190947
Yeah but he's already in Robin's FS. Even regardless of the weirdness of Chrom killing Chrom they removed of Palutena from Pit's expressly since she'd become her own character now.

>>190978
I don't really see a problem with that though. You can have two Chroms on the same battlefield anyway. I'm not saying that Nintendo won't see it as a problem, just that I don't personally. If anything, the fact that they already have character models for him would make it easier on him.

That said, I don't think we particularly need more Lords. If they're going to add in new Fire Emblem characters, I would rather see different classes. Get in a pure mage like Soren, a transformer like a Laguz or a Manakete, or a General or a Sniper.

Mostly, my preference for downloadable characters would be characters that play substantially differently from the other characters we already have.

>>190983
>two Chroms on the same battlefield anyway
How so? AFAIK he only appears as part of Robin's FS and I don't think two people can activate it at the same time.

>>190990
I meant you could if he were a playable character. Sorry, I worded that poorly.

>>190983
Laguz are highly unlikely, sadly Lyn is an AS but Tiki or Naga are probably emblematic enough.

So it looks like they're pushing the release dates for the EU/AU versions to come out at the same time as the American ones. That's cool.

//youtube.com/watch?v=N15fVFAAcYA
//youtube.com/watch?v=bXvs-WwXSwU
//youtube.com/watch?v=aGMum5OMups
//youtube.com/watch?v=A8p-CYk7lwQ

>>191141
>that landmaster bodyslam
>half of sudden death takes place under the arena
Holy shit please tell me these are tool-assisted. If not, the idea that I could meet a god like this in a random online match makes me cringe.

>>191148

They are.

>"Ridley should be in Smash!!"
But he's too big.

>"That's a stupid argument!!"
No it's not. Stop acting like it's not a valid argument. You can't shrink Ridley to fit in Smash, and expect it to make sense in context and not raise some eyebrows. It's obvious Nintendo is listening to these people what with Ridley being on the player's side in that one stage, so they know it wouldn't work to make him playable, and that's honestly the best they could do.