/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

Also I'm pretty sure I hear Yuki Kaji for the new Link. Hoooo boy.

>>189169
Is that supposed to mean something? I don't know who that voice actor is.

Link doesn't speak much, does it really matter who does the attack yells and hit screams.

>>189170
Big time VA and Singer

//youtube.com/watch?v=cH1MT5UBkLw

So a fully voiced Link which is unusal for a dude that hasn't been much more than a Player Avatar, ever.

There better be some Groose or this game is a failure.

//youtube.com/watch?v=3_DZtTR3zu0

the hyrule warriors direct on youtube.

gives a bunch of info.

>>189173
End of that is precious.

>>189178
More interested in Twinrova myself.

>>189192
Link's outfit is pretty choice right there.

>>189195

Agreed.

>>189195
Yeah his trainee soldier gear looks pretty awesome.
I always wanted to see a game where more of the supporting cast and the hyrule army were featured doing their bit. Link still being the courageous hero obviously but seeing active assistance from the grunts and the mooks in support of him.

>>189214
I like the setup of Skyward Sword, where he was a cadet and those who graduate get a colored uniform (which just happens to look like the standard Link outfit.) However, I would love a main game where he's doing this in the context of a far, far larger force, perhaps starting you off going through some sort of basic training, and his first skirmish as part of this military is where he sets off as the hero. That chainmail-esque outfit would be a grand fit for it, and going from a relatively unknown person in a huge population would be a change of pace (he's been an unknown person before, but always as part of a small village somewhere on the outskirts.)

//youtube.com/watch?v=NhujbknHgbc

Not a fan of planing DLC content before release and I never will be.

I'm glad it's small stuff like skins from previous games, but I'd prefer to have them already in the game you buy.

>>189232
It really shows off how much freedom Nintendo is giving Tecmo-Koei on this. They gave what might be considered a bit too much, really.

>>189232
So you feel that it is crass to begin coming up with a business model for a product you are working on while you are working on it? Like, say, if they were making action figures, you feel it would be crass for them to begin designing accessories that a consumer could purchase to go with their action figure before the figure was released?

>>189235
>defending DLC

I love how some people genuinely believe that rip-off schemes qualify as a legit business model in videogames nowadays.

>>189235
The difference is you don't have to buy the action figure before the accessories. They're completely separate purchases regardless if they're meant to go together.

It's more like if the accessory was in an indestructable box with a keypad on it, which comes with the figure, and you have to buy the combination to unlock it.

>>189236
Maybe if people stopped supporting such methods game companies would cease using them.

>>189236
I'm not so much defending DLC as I'm attacking gamers who feel like they should be entitled to the entire future output of a studio because they bought one game one time.

>>189237
Yes, I'm sure the number of people who bought hats for Barbie without first buying a Barbie doll is immense.

>>189235
Not really, but we are talking about skins that are clearly already completed. More sophisticated DLC after release I can understand and accept, like a mini expansion pack.

You don't automatically get them as an intensive to buy the game before you know if it's good or not/to sign up for club Nintendo...which is really a program to get you to buy more games anyway.

I like Nintendo, they're my favorite developer, but it's very clear to me what's being done here and I just don't like that model. I feel it's a bit dishonest and cheap to make players jump through hoops or pay extra for content that's complete by the games release.

>>Yosuke Hayashi said…
>>“For one, we now have Cuccos in the game. They will appear in battle, and you’ll have to see for yourself what will happen. In addition, we’ve made characters like Ghirahim and Zant playable. We originally thought of them strictly as enemy characters, but went this route in response to people who wanted to try playing as them, too.”

>>189245
Those are nice colors

>>189263
Looks like some nice fanart recompiled into resemble a magazine page.

>>189266
Haha man whats up being so bloody cynical, instantly jumping to the conclusion something is fake?

Its one of the scans from the HW artbook, there's others to go with it.

People think the girls might be different concepts for Lana or something?. No idea what the stuff with link and ghost zelda at the bottom could be about though.

>>189267
From what I can tell, it says that she serves as Link's support character. It also says "Linkle" (I guess? It's "Rinkuru") is a girl link.

I'm pretty sure it's fake though dude.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/08/the_hyrule_warriors_artbook_catches_the_eye_with_female_link
The art book is quite real. There's no reason to assume the page is fake. Don't be so afraid of looking anonymously foolish or gullible on the internet that you kneejerk.

>>189271
The original Tumblr link it's supposed to all come from is dead. I still think it could be legit, just because they never actually have come close to implementing female Link doesn't mean they haven't necessarily considered it too. And I don't think it's impossible for the Hero of Time/Demise to be incarnated into females, just like I should hope the Goddess of Time would be willing to incarnate into male bodies too if it's more convenient.

>>189271
It's not about being afraid of looking foolish. It's about the fact that the filename is "artunknown" and there are no sources backing up the page as real.

The internet is telling me that female Link isn't actually *a* female Link per se, but a separate character that was intended as a "little sister" type for Link.

>>189267
>>189271
I won't apologize for base skepticism.
Anon just asked me for my ideas on it and I shared it. That's all.

//youtube.com/watch?v=s6H0noU6Rfk

Needs to be some sort of compilation of these openers made at some point

What about the non-hw zelda game for the WiiU.
Any new info for that one?

>>189417
There won't be anything for a while. We might not end up seeing anything until next E3 even.

So we all agree that the Sages all get killed at some point when they enter their temples and the temple of light is where their ghosts go?

>>190044
I think it's more like ascension; it might require death, but I don't think we're explicitly told that they died after venturing in. At most we get something like "we haven't seen them since they went in." So you go in, don't find them, beat boss, then boom Temple of Light.

I could easily see them accessing some part of the Temple that's inaccessible to Link for whatever reason, and that part holds some mechanism for their ascension.

>>190044
Don't they have descendants? In Link Between Worlds the sages go through a similar process, but at the end they all get to go back to their families. It's more implied that the sages are unable to live a normal life than it is that they're dead.

So Warriors is out now. What do y'all think of the game?

Im pretty much at the end of the story and, while the game was extremely entertaining, it was very short. It looks like the meat of the game is actually in the other modes. I hope they include at least a few new bosses or something or I'll be quite underwhelmed.

Despite being at the end of the game I've played as less than half of the characters, so I'm looking forward to trying them out. Out of the ones I've played Sheik is my favorite, the way they mixed the spell selection into the combos you use was really creative and once I figured it out I was really impressed.

>>190523
Turns out I was wrong about the game being short.

The story mode isn't too lengthy but Adventure Mode is fucking huge, it's at least 80% of the game.

Also, in case anyone here doesn't already know on October 16th Nintendo is releasing 3 DLC characters for free. The characters are Cia, Wizro, and Volga. The same day they'll be releasing a whole new Adventure mode map with stuff for the new characters, as well as new weapons and alternate costumes for the existing characters. One of the new weapons for Link is Epona.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/9788-Hyrule-Warriors-Review?utm_source=latest&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all

Guess what Yahtzee thinks of Hyrule Warriors?

>>190720
It's a Nintendo game. Watching the video's not even necessary.

>>190720
I wish Yahtzee would make up his damn mind. First he says Twilight Princess was pretty good, now he thinks it's shit for some reason.

>>190720
No one gives a shit, stop linking to him.

>>190722
He turned on it after learning how much like OoT it actually is.

>>190722
Yahtzee is a comedian. Stop listening to him for his opinion.

>>190726
unless its during a Lets Drown Out

So now that we know what the upside down triforce means, does that mean Ghirahim is the Lorulian Master Sword?

>>190790
Honestly with all the 'dark twisted alternate dimensions' they got going on, it could be from anywhere.

I've been enjoying the game more and more and I'm only like half way done with the adventure map.

Although I am pretty disappointed that the windwaker is actually a pretty shitty weapon. I was hoping it would be a lot more powerful and devastating, but so far it's felt pretty weak.

The gauntlets on the other hand are fucking amazing and are easily my favorite weapon. I can't remember the last time I had so much fun with a videogame.

>>190839
Epona sure is something
//youtube.com/watch?v=ejxyt5zYdps

Just got a Wii-U recently and hyrule warriors was one of the major reasons.
Been playing it pretty solidly and completed the story mode (haven't completed Cia's sidestory yet) and have moved onto the Adventure mode. Great fun.

Really curious what the new characters will be, I've heard at least some of them will be from Majora's Mask?

>>191131
Because there are a number of assets ar-RAID in their favor!

...I'll, uh....

...I'll just see my self out.

>>191128
There are a few different DLC packs slated to come out, and one of them is going to be Majora's Mask themed. I've heard this pack will have 2 characters in it but I don't have a source for that.

We'll almost definitely get some version of Skull Kid/Majora as a playable character.

How impossible is the Master Quest adventure map?

>>191134
I think its gonna be SkulKid/Majora and Fierce Deity

No idea what single character is going to be added for the Twilight Princess pack, they already have two major characters.

Would have been interesting if "Linkle" had been a playable character after all that attention the art book got, having a crossbow for her weapon right out of Link's Crossbow Training.

>>191157
Why are Zelda's ears so much more pronounced than Links? Is that a canon thing and I just never noticed?

>>191154
I think the second character will be Tingle.

I don't want it, but I think it's going to happen.

Gnat Hat

>>191128
Okay I really really need some assistance.

I've been playing though Adventure Mode solidly but I still am not near completing the first map, never mind the Master Quest which is meant to be harder. I'm having trouble when it comes to getting A ranks to unlock weapons and stuff mostly with characters that aren't Link, its beginning to wear on me.

Does anyone have any advice when it comes to conquering the map and cheesing the different types of stages? For instance I already know that using the bow makes devastation stages easy.
I would also appreciate pointers on how to get the most out of some of the other characters.

Please help.

>>191181
Don't forget about the training dojo. I thought it'd be worthless after a while because of how expensive it gets at higher levels, but investing enough to bring a character up like 5 levels actually makes a significant difference. Seriously, use the training dojo.

I can't give tips on every character, but I might be able to help you use Fi. I had trouble with her at first because her first two hits are really weak and too slow to keep comboing enemies like Lizalfos, because they'll break out of them. But if you know the weak-point meter is about to appear over them, start your attack chain but don't hit them with the first two attacks. Fi can move a lot when she attacks, so you can pretty easily land the third hit without touching them on the first two attacks. Her combos are way more effective this way.

From what I can tell the most important part of getting good with characters is actually just experimenting with different approaches until you find something that works. I can still only use like half of the cast well myself.

Oh, and you know about dodge canceling right? Dodge between your attacks and you can stop your combo chain early, it's good for when you're about to get hit and need to move. Also, hold down the dodge button and you can go straight into a sprint.

Majora's Mask 3D!

//youtube.com/watch?v=uqp9fpMqhCo

>>191186
The new moon looks so retarded though. It's funnier than it is creepy.

I have a distinct feeling they're going to censor some things to make the game less disturbing.

>>191194
Looks to me like they just tried to update the moon graphically and kinda failed to get the nuances right. Not like some sort of kid-friendly censorship.

The moon still just looks like the moon, ya'll are crazy.

>>191197
I know, both comments were unrelated.

>>191198
It's not as subtle as it once was, there are so many little details I wish they could've preserved. But the big issue for me is the nose. I don't care who you are, a huge nose like that is just comical. It is legitimately going to prevent me from taking it seriously.

>>191199

>>191199
It's the Majora's Mask moon, how in the hell was it ever subtle or not comical? Like, wasn't that the entire point, that it was SO ridiculous it just becomes funny?

>>191183
Thanks for the tips fellow anon.

I don't suppose anyone has any particularly broken exploits to add to that? Since I've not even finished the basic Adventure map, and that still leave the Master Quest map, then the TWO NEW ADVENTURE MAPS being added via the dlc's which is what made me despair.
(Btw does anyone know exactly when in November we're supposed to be getting the next pack?)

>>191199
Maybe it looks better from the side like
>>191203

Still, having the face be more of a face sort of alters the atmosphere a bit. It'll be interesting to experience.

>>191205
The way he casually says "and when the amiibo comes out, you'll also be able to get the twilight princess pack" suggests the release date is the same as Smash 4 U

Also spinner trailer
//youtube.com/watch?v=8Zou7ZR8Dk0

>>191208
Yeah. It looks more aggressive now, rather than looming.

>>191207
They're probably going off original art, too. The N64 likely forced a lot lower quality than they wanted, so they're getting some of it back now that they can do higher resolution. Considering the moon is a constant presence, it's not surprising it received the largest increase in quality.

I think the new Moon is more menacing/creepy, but I can understand how people see it as less of a moon.

>>191226
>I think the new Moon is more menacing/creepy,
Yeah, dem teeth. And those sunken eyes.

>>191207
I think the nose looks better in the original one, but aside from that it's really no big deal.

>>191207

New!Moon looks better.

>>191235
>New!Moon

Stop that.

>>191207
Nose could be smaller, but I like it.

>>189879
The HW Great Fairy really is fantastic and not only because playing as her involves her giant ass and pair of tits filling the screen

Its a little freaky how powerful she is during the story mode. She is also amusing to play as and not quite like any other character sure technically she is a weapon for link but really in practice she's more like a whole new character

Does anyone know how to unlock the Master Sword special skill? I heard it has something to do with unlocking all weapons, is that all levels of weapons or just the different weapon classes? What does it do anyway?

>>191254
To be able to unlock the Master Sword special skill, you do have to unlock all the weapons for each character including every rank for them. Doing so and then killing 25000 foes with the Master Sword will get you Evil's Bane which gives a base damage of 200. It also unlocks the ability to get a similar skill for every other weapon.

The Maser Quest adventure map is confusing with things being changed, I had to use a whistle to get rid of a bush instead after wasting a torch card on it and nothing happening. Does anyone have a guide for this map yet?

The secrets are the same as they are in the second quest of Zelda 1, which used the recorder
A lot more often.

I think the character in the Twilight Princess pack is going to be midna, non-cursed.

>>191427
What about the Hero's Shade?

>>191556
That would be easy for them to do- Link anymations over a a new Skeleton-Link model/skin.

I'd hope for her alternate form to just be some other weapon for her. I mean, Link and the Great Fairy are practically different characters, so playing as what are practically two different Midnas doesn't seem that far fetched to me.

I'd like Hero's Shade to be the new character because a skeleton swordsman with ghost powers sounds rad to play as. And I'm not sure who else out of TP could make a good character besides him and non-cursed Midna, but if they can make Agitha into a character who knows what they'll do.

>>191589
I imagine Hero's Shade is one of the new costumes for Link.

>>191618
They sort of demand your attention.
Even if you shoot their eyes out and run away that doesn't hold them off for long.

>>191586
Wait thats an actual screenshot? What is that weapon she's using.

>>191630
It looks like the twilight mirror.
Which is a little odd.

>>191630
Greetings to everyone in our The Legend of Zelda community! I'm Eiji Aonuma, the supervisor for Hyrule Warriors, and I'm happy to talk to you all again. The second DLC pack for Hyrule Warriors, the Twilight Princess Pack, will be released soon, so today I would like to give you a sneak peek at what's inside. The highlight of the first DLC pack, the Master Quest Pack, was being able to team Link up with Epona. This time around, there will be a new playable character - someone from The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess... Who do you think it is? Here's a hint: this character only appeared in this form at the very end of Twilight Princess. In that game, Midna is cursed and cast out from the Twilight Realm, but now you will be able to unleash her true form as Twili Midna! When I was developing Twilight Princess, I thought it was such a waste to let a beautiful princess like her only appear in the ending. Now Koei Tecmo Games has made my wish to see more of her come true. Twili Midna's weapon is the Mirror of Twilight, which appeared in Twilight Princess. This mirror was destroyed at the end of that game, but it's pretty amazing in Hyrule Warriors. In fact, I can't describe in words what's so amazing about it, so I hope you'll download this DLC pack and see for yourself. In addition to Twili Midna, the Twilight Princess Pack includes new weapons, costumes and an adventure map, so if you played through the original game, they should contribute to the fun you'll have in Hyrule Warriors. (For one of the costumes, you can dress Link up as a certain familiar character from the Zelda series. It may make you say ""Wow!"" so I hope you'll look forward to it.) The second DLC pack for Hyrule Warriors, the Twilight Princess Pack, will be released globally on November 27!

>>191719
Don't remember it being that hard myself, what level is your zelda?

Still getting all the weapons for all the characters including the ones I don't use has certainly been a struggle, having trouble bringing myself to go do it. Getting A Ranks can be a huge pain.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/11/peculiar_outfits_and_details_revealed_for_twilight_princess_hyrule_warriors_dlc

>>191727
They know I was just kidding about the dominion rod, right?
Although combining that with zelda's phantom is a nice touch.

>>191725
Now that I've beaten it, she was 39. I think the trick to complete it in the necessary time frame is to resist the urge to go after the Fiery Aeralfos immediately, because before you know it, Volga, Wizzro, and a dozen Moblins are knocking on the base's front door. Make the front door a choke point and let everyone come to Zelda.

I'm dreading Agitha's level 3 mission.

>>191736
Yeah, any time where there are two enemy armies, it is always in your best interest to focus all of your attention on the biggest or most powerful army first, as they get a morale boost from the other being defeated.

Zant's fun to clear crowds with, but his weak-point smash is the absolute worst.

>>191802
There's new item cards as well in that screenshot.

I'm most likely never going to bother getting all the weapons or completing the Master Quest adventure map, but I guess I'll go back to the game to give this one a look and try out Midna.

http://youtu.be/a2KP7kWR4mE
They sure take their sweet time getting to uploading a trailer.
Looks like the mirror and rod are both dark.

Keep in mind that once again a free patch is out at the same time as the DLC, so you'll have to do some tricky maneuvering to get the Wii U to download and install both.

>>191826
I didn't have any trouble, it just did it itself, and now character levels go up to a maximum of 150 and materials go up to a maximum of 999.

Does Twili Midna get any other weapons beside the mirror?

Heh, Twili Midna's badges are made out of stuff I've had in surplus for a while now.
I've pretty much filled the whole thing from the get go.

New gameplay video of the new Wii U Zelda
//youtube.com/watch?v=SECWlFInyFM
>Real horses don't run into trees very often

>>191947
Ohhh and Starfox bomb, out next year. I was afraid that Starfox stuff we saw was just the Bayo extras.

//youtube.com/watch?v=SBI5PA5tTuM

>Koji Kondo
>Imagine Dragons

Together at last.

>>191947
I want to see the advanced path finding on that horse. Also I love the jump and shoot slo-mo. That Link still looks a bit curvy, not complaining just taking note.

>>191950
Project HAMMER was confirmed too. And so was Starcraft Ghost.
It's not confirmed until there are copies on the shelf.

//youtube.com/watch?v=VcBhHBaKaPw
IGN News talking about the new footage. I can't tell if he's high, super excited, or was told to do the report immediately after the trailer was first shown.

Think Shiek could show up in The new Zelda game, being Zelda's "Batman" type persona.

>>192028
>You can play as Link

NO, REALLY?

>>192155
I think Shiek's long gone and done. Zelda's got lots of ways to be helpful and fun.

>>192170
Shame, it would be something to have Hyrule Batman do something then vanish and then Link wondering who that was. But yea since that time Zelda has been given more an active role so there isn't a need for a separate persona that can fight.

>>192177
>Shame, it would be something to have Hyrule Batman do something then vanish and then Link wondering who that was.
We've already played that game though.

>>192155
>>192177
I think Shiek, if used again, wouldn't be something hidden from Link or the player. Or Ganon, since he'd have seen that trick before, timeline shenanigans notwithstanding. I could see Zelda dressing as Shiek to avoid flak from a royal court afraid of letting their monarch go into combat with little to no backup, though. Which could seem more like Batgirl if Zelda wasn't still the one in charge, with a fancy hideout and Impa to play Alfred.

Also, it'd be funny if she kept her Shiek stuff in a keese cave and can't figure out why they bother Link so much.

A new year a new Awakening save:

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Nauibotics/Awakening_Class_and_Skill_Guide

Time to Eugenics.

I don't see any other Nintendo thread and Smash isn't really relevant, but new Fire Emblem trailer. New lord looks like a cross between Micaiah and Tharja which REALLY doesn't bode well.

>>192605
This isn't a nintendo general thread, if you want one then just go and start one.

As for something Zelda related, the new characters in the upcoming Majora's Mask dlc pack are Tingle & young Link, I am unhyped as fuck.

Fuck me, the Majora's Mask 3DS sold out in 15 minutes. What the fuck is this online-only shit? Why did they produce such limited numbers? That just makes it easier for scalpers. If I can't get an MM N3DS, I think I'll just hold off on getting an N3DS because I can still play MM itself on my regular model.

A co-worker from Canada says she managed to get me a pre-order from an EBGames, though that may still fall through.

>>192610
Fucking typical.

>>192611
fact that it comes with a woefully undersized SD card makes me skip it.

>Super Mario Galaxy 2 on the Virtual Console for 100 kr

Wait what, Awesome, thank you.

Now do Metroid Prime Trilogy next please.

>>192606
And if I'm not mistaken, the new skins are Skull Kid, Oot Sheik and Oot Impa.

>>192617
That's the thing that annoys me about the N3DS. I bought a 32GB SD card for my regular 3DS, and I can't use on the New? Pooper-shits. Not that I have a lot of stuff and the 4GB micro SD would probably be fine, but it's still annoying.

>>192629
That will come after Punch Out!!.
I wonder if it'll come with the DK DLC.

Super glad people will get the chance to play MP Trilogy after the limited run. Best use of the Wii remote I ever played.

That reminds me, I should throw my metal-case copy of MP Trilogy on eBay sooner than later in case it loses some value after the VC version is released.

>>192635
Not to be mean, but the announcement itself probably bumped down the value quite a bit.
I saw some of those go for about $120 USD a few months back.

>>192637
Yeah, I probably missed the boat. Case itself is still collector-worthy, but soon that's all it will be... Checking eBay recent sales are still for $60ish, which is about what I saw last time. It's the new-in-package ones that are going for $100+.

>>192648
>>192650
>>192651
I'm...highly disappointed.

Honestly, Tingle seems to be the best thing about the pack.

>>192652
Are you high? At least kid link has a cool gimmick, Tingle is terrible in every possible way.

>>192656
Tingle is the best character.

Once Groose happens I'll care.

Fierce Deity Link>Groose

>>192663
If you were playing as him constantly instead of a special attack I would agree.

>>192664

I mean, Groose is cool but his popularity is partly just as the bright spot of a shit game. Majora Link using Mask attacks is way more interesting.

>>192670
Nope, Groose or go home.

>>192656
I like his weird facial animations.

Complaint I saw about the NEW XL Design is that it shouldn't have been gold but a Purplish Silver. I agree.

>>192724
They didn't put any effort into thinking of how many units to make, why should they put effort into a more thematic color design? Slap it gold like all other special Zelda stuff and call it a day...

>>192735

Shame they decided to nix the Regular model. Because who really wants customized units.

//youtube.com/watch?v=ADk2-LAcApc

//youtube.com/watch?v=vmous633Sx0

>>192872
>Titled "Worst Change?"
>About swimming as a Zora and actually talks about how it's also a slight improvement
Fucking click-bait.

//youtube.com/watch?v=qtuEuyGSz14
Looks like Young Link is Dark type and Tingle is Fire type.

//youtube.com/watch?v=XN59NxzP7Ro

>>193004
Think you missed the Let's Play thread pal.

>>193002
Really shoudn't have been in gold, pearl coat purple would have been better.

//youtube.com/watch?v=jMG0-eKs52U

//youtube.com/watch?v=L7168W-qRn4

Wind Waker/Gannon analysis.

>>193095
yea better looking cases that what was offered, bleh. Hence I went with black.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/02/06/legend-of-zelda-netflix-series/

>“The Legend of Zelda,” one of the most popular videogame series of all time, is in the works as a television show at Netflix.

>The video streaming service is in the early stages of developing a live action series based on “Zelda,” about an ordinary boy named Link who must rescue a princess named Zelda and save a fantasy world called Hyrule, said a person familiar with the matter. As it seeks writers to work on the show, Netflix is describing it as “Game of Thrones” for a family audience, this person said.

>The “Zelda” games have traditionally included swords and sorcery, like “Game of Thrones” or “Lord of the Rings,” but typically with a more light-hearted, kid-friendly tone.

>Netflix is said to be working closely with Nintendo, the Japanese game developer that has made about 20 “The Legend of Zelda” games since the original, which was released in the U.S. in 1987.

HOLY CRACKERS!

>>193107
FUCK YEAH ALRIGHT

>>193107
LIVE ACTION?!

What the fuck is going on, and what direction will this take reoccurring Zelda secondary villain, Ganondorf's Beard?

I just realized, Groose is an ABSOLUTE MUST, he and his dude gotta roll up like Bulk and Skull in Power Rangers.

The fulcrum of failure and success will be balanced purely on this.

what will the age range been on Link Young Kid Link, Cusp of Manhood Link?

>>193113
14 at very youngest but my guess is a 24 year old playing a 16 year old.

>>193114
So very Old Cartoon Link

>>193115
Nah, think more like Glee in terms of casting, people just a little too old to be who they are, which is fine.

>>193116
"Dawson Casting" as TV Tropes calls it is so common that kids who are their actual age tend to look too young on TV anyway. People are more used to seeing short, babyfaced adults in place of actual teenagers.

>>193119
Good to know.

>>193119
Getting a bit off topic, but that reminded me: Jimmy Fallon recently did a skit where he reunited (most of) the Saved By the Bell cast and he was included. Amazingly, after hair and wardrobe, it was like they aged very little. They were a bit taller, and Zack (Mark-Paul Gosselaar) had really started thinning up top. Oh, and Kelly (Tiffani Thiessen) is pregnant. But aside from those things I may as well have been watching a new episode in the 90s.

Tiffani Thiessen is so hot, hrnnngg

>>193107
>but typically with a more light-hearted, kid-friendly tone.

I know they're technically right, but this makes me afraid it'll fall into the usual stereotype of kid-friendly shows that adds a lot of unnecessary, and often unfunny comedy relief. Nintendo games aren't really marketed towards kids anymore.

>>193122
>Nintendo games aren't really marketed towards kids anymore.
...buh?

Yeah, dude. They kind of are. There are a couple of series that aim themselves at older audiences, like Fire Emblem and Metroid, but most of Nintendo's titles are aimed at "Everyone," which means kids and teenagers. Zelda's a little less kid-friendly than Mario, but even the darkest entries in the series were never much darker/more mature than, say Avatar the Last Airbender.

>>193122
Nintendo games also have only a veneer of kid-friendliness. If you look closely at many of those games you find some really dark shit. Even for the more mature tone of the Zelda games, they go grimdark. LttP has a guy turn into wood. In OoT a guy vanishes, consumed by the Lost Woods. Basically everything in Majora's Mask.

>>193124
>If you look closely at many of those games you find some really dark shit.
Okay, but have you ever actually read or watched anything aimed at kids that kids actually like? Kids fucking LOVE "dark shit." And while people have been attempting to coddle kids for the last decade or so, the most popular shows these days among kids have all been going back to their roots on those things.

Kid-friendly doesn't mean saccharine.

>>193123
>"Everyone," which means kids and teenagers

I'm sorry, WHAT? Do you even know the meaning of that word? Most modern Nintendo commercials show grown adults playing the games.

>but even the darkest entries in the series were never much darker/more mature than, say Avatar the Last Airbender.

Considering Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask, I'd have to say you are definitely wrong there. Avatar might take itself seriously, but they've hardly ever done anything dark that wasn't so subtle kids might not even notice it. Never on this level:

//youtube.com/watch?v=LwBcGqyFbIM

//youtube.com/watch?v=699oyO2Zjjc

>>193124
Even Wind Waker had a post-apocalyptic world, with the survivors of the flood retreating to the mountain tops.

>>193126
>but they've hardly ever done anything dark that wasn't so subtle kids might not even notice it.
Unless you count the time the main character killed an entire army including a recurring character by drowning while possessed by an angry god?

Look, I'm not saying that Majora's Mask wasn't amazing--it's one of my favorite games of all time. But there is absolutely nothing in that game that isn't appropriate for ten year olds.

//youtube.com/watch?v=97uf-WXe7Eo

Cool to see Dan playing. Judging by the first video, it's gonna be a good run equal to his Goonies 2 videos.

>>193133
I like seeing him take charge. I was "watching" their pokemon run and poor daniel sounded so damn lost I felt sorry for the guy.

>>193135
Well confidence is a thing for Dan, that's why they started off with so many of the games he likes, it's one of Dan's most charming aspects where he literally is like a frozen cave man, a gamer from a different era, like a really mellow AVGN. Pokemon is neat to see him interact with because it's him stepping out of his comfort zone and being like OH THAT IS SO CUTE! I'm hoping as the show goes they'll continue to push with him.

There is a sincerity to Dan that serves well as the heart of Game Grumps, especially where he really isn't a grump at all.

>>193136
Maybe Barry, Dan and Ross can do some plays in the Grumpcade

With the re-release of Majora's Mask on the 3DS comes the return of Iwata Asks:

http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/majoras-mask-3d/0/0

>>193262
Would be a really neat way to not make Link talk while being progressive at the same time, but you know they're not going to.

Although actual mutes wouldn't even grunt like Link does.

>>193263
Deaf people also use sign language, and they can make grunts.

Because they can't hear the words, people deaf from birth cannot properly create the sounds necessary for most words; part of it is the use of the tongue, part of it is the use of the vocal cords. Many can make "hollow" versions where you understand most of what they're saying, but it's like they're saying it through a wall. Due to this they will communicate through sign language. I have an uncle who was born deaf, and when his kids were younger and he wanted their attention so they would turn to see his signs, he would make this kind of barking noise.

Since grunts are made through a combination of lung movement and involuntary muscle tensing, it's completely possible for deaf people to make the sounds that Link makes when swinging his sword, though they wouldn't be as loud.