/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

Has anyone done any games online? A lot of my groups has disbanded or encountered turbulence, and I'm kind of jonesing here, but I'm a little intimidated by the idea.

>>187574
Most of the games I've played over my lifetime have been online. There are actually a lot of time-saving advantages to online games, as well as the option of logging sessions. I've found that games played through a chat interface tend to go slower though, since people will take their time to type what they're going to do--so if you can get a group that all agrees to use headsets, you're better off.

I used to use MapTool, but Roll20 seems to be the best option around these days for online playing. Less fiddly about installs, for starters.

Been trying to figure the ins and outs of a setup, know a few people who could really use such a thing.

My group is kinda weird. We've got 2 remote members (used to live near by) and 4 local members. Nobody wanted to just up and quit, and the local members didn't want to go into a web client for gaming. So what we ended up doing we put the 2 remotes up on the TV in the living room and having all the locals sit in front of it.

We started out with MapTool, but that program always game us issues. We switched to Roll20 and haven't looked back. The only thing bad i have to say about it is that I'd like to make the player pictures bigger (one of the remotes makes great facial expressions) and that's more of a minor quibble than anything else.

If you haven't done the online stuff before I'd suggest starting out with Roll20. I haven't run MapTool in quite some time so they may have fixed it/made it more stable, but there is usually some issue with MapTool that needs troubleshooting at first. That said, I do like MapTool's layout and interface a bit more than Roll20.

>>187610

This book makes my brain hurt.

>>187626

>I for one is look forward to it, because why play as a boring old humanoid anyway.

Why would that make my brain hurt mo-

oh you mean the part about playing as a Pony? Nah I'm cool with that.

BUT WHY PATHFINDER?

>>187634

>Its more open source?

In what way?

That it's incredibly broken or that it's incredibly broken AND super popular?

(also no it's really about as flexible as any other system out there)

At this point I'm seriously considering running the old Dragonlance adventures as a FATE campaign just to see what would happen.

>>187648
>all the way to kickstater that is...
Also free 4th editon Translation kit:
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/121460/Ponyfinder--4th-Edition-Translation
But it dont have the doppleganger rules I need, fuck!

>>187648

>Like how the last Pathfinder game one of the guy I will be playing with on sunday had him as some weird Frog Wizard who dropped giant toads on his foes and then turned into the devil to fight the devil.

See my issue isn't so much that stupid broken shit CAN happen? It's just...

okay can a fighter or a barbarian or a rogue do something even REMOTELY similar to that in scope/ability? And yet all 3 classes are still presented as though they are comparable to the wizard/cleric/druid?

Then there's a problem.

>>187652
If you have a good GM that give them magic items to compensate then yeah.
But this is not a Pathfinder issue alone, DnD has had this from the start.
Magic can do almost anything after all.

>>187659

>have a good GM that give them magic items to compensate then yeah.

See even then that requires an insane amount of adjustment.

The books tell you to give party a split and fair amount of money/gold but if you do then you'll hit a wall of the Fighter saving up to buy boots of flying or whatever to get an ability the wizard can do any time he wants as long as he has a feather while he's spending the gold on items to improve his defense.

Which means that the DM has to basically give all the other martial classes a disproportionately large amount of items which take up different body slots and don't always have stacking benefits, and even then that's a pretty poor patch considering you know what classes are REALLY GOOD AT MAKING MAGICAL ITEMS? Casters. So practically nothing is stopping them from still having the edge.

>But this is not a Pathfinder issue alone, DnD has had this from the start.

Arguable less so in 2e and practically non-existent in 4e but lets not get on THAT subject.

>Magic can do almost anything after all.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

Every time I talk about caster supremacy people are always like "OH! BUT MAGIC! MAGIC IS THE PROBLEM! WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THE MAGIC!" and it's like: ASSHOLE YOU INVENTED THE MAGIC!

You MADE the fucking system! It's something you wrote down! If magic is too versatile or covers too many potential problems too easily then fucking change it! Yes nothing is saying magic CAN'T be the ultimate answer to everything, but nothing says that it CAN either.

You can SUPER EASILY make magic less practical to cast! Or at least less of an auto-win button. Hell you can establish clear rules to what magic CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DO! Because it's magic! It's a blank check! So when it's too disproportionately powerful or good you don't just throw up your hands and say "Oh well! We made it too good! Can't go back now!" you either let fighters be cool martial badasses that can do vaguely mystical things with strength and shit (like with Tome of Battle) or you make wizards weaker!

The problem with casters in D&D is that they are broken by design. Wizards being god-tier and fighters being trash is intentional, because the designers believe that limited classes are for 'limited' players.

Unless you're doing some heavy houseruling or bans, fullcasters in 3.5/Pathfinder are basically unfixable.

Ughh. D&D has systemic problems built into the culture itself. It's even apparent in the fan community of D&D--look how resistant large portions of it are to the very idea that there can be game systems that are better suited to certain types of stories, or that rule changes can affect roleplaying opportunities.

The thing is, despite the fact that the new editions keep coming, I really get the impression that there is this idea that "Things shouldn't ever really change" in D&D culture. They want D&D to be the same game they've been playing since the 70's, despite the fact that the art of the RPG has come a long way since then. Right down to wanting to play the exact same modules they've been playing since then. The very fact that things are different from how they used to be seems to be inexcusable to a very large portion of both D&D's fans and their designers.

I think everyone who plays RPGs should play D&D at least once, like how fans of literature should read the classics. But I find it hard to understand why anyone would want to keep playing it after they've had that experience.

I mean when we get down to brass tacks, what is D&D (and Pathfinder, for that matter), actually GOOD at, relative to other systems? The only thing I can think is that D&D 4th Edition had a pretty good skirmish game in it, with mediocre RPG rules tacked on. That's about it.

>>187666
I like a good skirmish game.
And I wont be playing a fullcaster but an illusionist that will let the other do the killing so whatever.

But will DnD NEXT fix anything?

>>187671
In all likely-hood no. That said, its still probably going to have a better balance of tacti-fu vs. RP-ablility than 4th. Though this is just the opinion of someone who's only done some moderate reading of the new rules and hasn't actually playtested it.

>>187685
Really? I saw very little in the way of increased emphasis on roleplaying in the rules I read. Back when they were planning to do away with the old skill list and let people come up with backgrounds instead (almost 13th Age style, from my understanding), it looked like they might be doing something, but they decided to nix that when they decided it wasn't nostalgic enough.

>>187666

>with mediocre RPG rules tacked on

See that bit always confuses me.

Mediocre RPG rules compared to what? D&D 3.5?

I didn't realize D&D 3.5 had an incredibly deep social combat system! ... nooo it's actually about as in depth as 4e's as both ultimately boil down to a skill roll, guess work and roleplaying.

Oh! But you obviously mean D&D 3.5's superb background generation and ways of utilizing NPC's into individual players stories! In which case no again, because if anything 4e was actually better because it actually had backgrounds and themes and shit. And yea those were just stat blocks akin to a race or whatever but they were something.

OH! You mean D&D 3.5's incredible kingdom building mechanics and company management- no it doesn't actually have those either and what little there is of things like that are hand wavy or terrible.

So HOW exactly is D&D 3.5 more "roleplay" oriented than 4e? Cause I mean half the flavor text for spells talks about how they work in combat situations. Most feats are designed to be beneficial for combat scenarios. Hell practically all skills have specific IN COMBAT EFFECTS with the exception of most Charisma skills.

Really the only thing which was KIND OF narrative and roelplayer was like, the Profession skill. In which case woopie I can make a substantially less amount of gold in a few weeks doing boring tedious work than I would if I were actually out doing what a D&D character is suppose to do. Not much incentive there for me game devs.

I really don't get why people say that 4e is this super narrowly focused combat game when D&D has NEVER been one to really focus on things outside of skirmishes and battles. Hell that was where it STARTED.

>>187689
And I can dig the hell out of a skirmish game where you can roll play as a griffon.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224492525/ponyfinder-griffons-of-everglow

>>187689
>Mediocre RPG rules compared to what? D&D 3.5?

No. Mediocre RPG rules compared to, Fate or 13th Age or Savage Worlds or whatever other modern RPG you care to name. The state of the art has changed, and D&D has completely ignored most of the new RPG innovations that have come about.

>>187574

Some friends and I are about to try out 4.0 with Roll20, both things new to all of us.

Before, we've had a 3.5 game that was broadcasting our DM's computer via TwitchTV, and audio via a Skype call. Had it focus on his screen with Photoshop running so he could draw the map and move things easily, with a Rolz.com chat for our dice.

>Gets the 26 something dollar Ponyfinder book as a pdf so that I can play that infiltrating changeling idea I had.
>Show it to the GM to see if he cool with it
>Thinks its rad and now we are playing that instead normal Pathfinder and my idea is not built for that.

Well horseshit... Good thing I had a plan for this!
Crossbow focused Griffon Ranger it is.

Ponyfinder: Griffons of Everglow Pathfinder Expansion has officially gotten my money!

Now to wait a year for the book to be made.

>>187666

It's really telling that even the people into the Old School Revolution are doing way more interesting things with D&D, and that's actually a group of people that say, "Hey, let's just play 1e/2e/Basic again."

>>188335
Speaking off, how is that DnD NEXT doing?

>>188605
The first books are due out either this month or next, I think. They've been posting a lot of previews.

The mechanics still seem like retroclones to me for the most part, but they're at least taking note of the idea of opening up the system a bit (although even THAT is a bit of a throwback to d20's Open Gaming License. The way they're talking about it, it'll be a bit more polished than an SRD, but won't contain all the rules or anything. So one step forward, one step back.)--"Basic D&D" is the core of the rules with the four most iconic classes, and will be free on the internet for everyone, for example, and allegedly it will be updated regularly to add more stuff.

The books are going to be EXPENSIVE though. $60 for each of the PHB, DMG, and MM. Though allegedly you don't have to have the DMG or the MM to run a game, and the DMG is going to be more focused on the optional rules modules (like tactical/grid based combat rules, and if they stick to the things they were talking about early on, optional modules like healing surges and class powers as well), so I suspect if we see anything really innovative out of Next, it's going to be in the DMG.

And Griffons of Everglow made $20,032.
Cool.
Now I just need to fix the e-card I used...

Also what will happen to Pathfinder now when DnD is going back to what Paizo was doing during 4th?

>>188769
And they going to make a plushy with the extra money.
Cute.

//youtube.com/watch?v=4ozzRjBnq70
//youtube.com/watch?v=0YZYQWkyYC0
//youtube.com/watch?v=BKVoLkRkyc8
//youtube.com/watch?v=oxpAs6cxiTI
Fascinating history from a old fan boy.

And I also found this interview with the maker of Ponyfinder.
http://jpchapleau.blogspot.se/2014/06/interview-david-silver-about.html
Good read.

>>189185

Friend if you need a new system let me help.

You need to think about what kind of new game do you wanna run.

Do you still want a fantasy game? Then here's some suggestions:
Dungeon World
Burning Wheel
REIGN
Exa- hahahaha I couldn't finish that last one.

>>189185
Haven't played Savage Worlds, but lately I've fallen so in love with Fate that I would recommend it for anything. Once you really understand the Fate Fractal, it becomes so easy to model anything...

...I think this might be how LISP programmers feel about LISP.

If you read swedish there is the new Mutant game, År noll.
Looking at the back off the box, it felt kind like Gamma world 4e rip off if it was made by Fantasy Flight with cards tokkans, unik dies and all that.
Have heard good things about it so I may give it a try when I get the money.
Also the trailer is bad ass:
//youtube.com/watch?v=NZvgLqcXiZc

To bad they are holding the furr... I mean Mutant Animals for the expantons.
Because its not Mutant without the Shotgun wielding moose.

>>189203
>I have this feeling that I should be afraid.
Not really! It's actually quite simple and elegant. The Fate Fractal is just that, in Fate, the GM can stat out anything as a character, or as a partial character. Including elements of characters like their aspects or stunts.

It makes modelling weird gameplay elements very intuitive, and it means there's a lot less scotch tape necessary to bring in new gameplay elements that weren't built into the system.

>>189211
To give an example--
Okay, let's say you're playing some sort of Urban Fantasy story, with gangs and a situation where the City itself is a major and looming thing over every story. In addition to individual members of the gang being characters, the gangs themselves could be characters--they would have their own aspects and stunts, and stress tracks that could be used to measure their influence in city politics or the amount of territory they control. They can have skills, and they need not be the same skills normal characters have--a gang might only have skills like MEMBERS, RESOURCES, and INFLUENCE, or something like that, which you can rate however you might want to. The status of the Gang character can then be used to affect how the adventure goes--because the STREET WOLVES now have less influence than THE ALPHAS, now the streets of Chicago are safer from supernatural predators.

But on top of that, the city can also be statted out as a character, with stress tracks related to different things you might want to keep track of, like a Corruption stress track, or a Treasury stress track, and Aspects representing looming threats or major players in the city that control everything.

But you can also go in the other direction. Like say one of your characters has an aspect of AMAZING ROBOT ARMOR. You can stat up that Aspect as a character, with its own set of stress and skills and aspects, that the player can use when wearing that armor in place of their own stats. Or so on and so forth.

Bards are now full casters. HAAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW

>>189212

…did you just create a D&D version of The Warriors?

>>189254
I was referencing the Dresden Files specifically, but that would be a very easy thing to do with Fate and the Fate Fractal, yes.

I personally haven't done much role-playing, mostly just some Star Wars with my brother's friends years ago. I don't think I'll be able to get back to it unless it's online any time soon, but I figure it might be interesting to note that part of what attracted me to tabletop gaming was how video games were getting too streamlined and simplistic for my liking at the time. Tabletop games seemed like a nice way to play something that allows for things to get a bit hairy with the mechanistic systems.

So when D&D 4 was advertised as being streamlined and video game inspired, it didn't really help draw me further into pen and paper. Though after further consideration, I would think it should be video role playing games that should be more simulation-based anyway. I mean, they can roll dice and crunch numbers so fast that anything remotely feasibly via hand calculation should be a breeze for it, while the narrative aspects are specifically a weak point in that computer GMs are notoriously lacking in improvisation skills.

I guess I'm mostly just wondering why there's no video game based on Rolemaster or something when automating vast charts and tables, is in fact, the first thing computers were used for. They're even named after a job which consists of doing just that. There is Dwarf Fortress, but that doesn't seem to have the kind of sensibilities I would go for. So I should probably just like make game and try build such a system myself when I have the experience to handle something like that.

>>189212
You know, this anything-as-a-character concept sounds useful for creative writing in general, thanks for a nice method of nailing down specific details.

>>189410

>why there's no video game based on Rolemaster

Because that's not how Rolemaster is played.

Rolemaster is a game where the person who finds the most obscure, advantageous rule wins.

It was literally BUILT for min-maxers and game breakers to fuck with.

Spoony's DnD 5th review:
http://spoonyexperiment.com/counter-monkey/counter-monkey-dd-5th-edition-review-part-1/
http://spoonyexperiment.com/counter-monkey/counter-monkey-dd-5th-edition-review-part-2/

>>189527
>idiotic "hardcore" elitism over a cooperative game, D&D no less

It's like claiming that roguelikes are superior to action RPGs and calling people pussies for preferring the latter.

D&D is not really a very good rpg system in any edition, it doesn't always take quality to build up momentum and a fanbase

>>189527
My god. It is every 3rd world country's citizen's dream to be able to get that pissed off at something as inconsequential as that.

To have no other worries....

>>189552
You are aware that this non-argument can be used to shut down literally any discussion not pertaining to vital matters, yes?

>>189554
No, yeah. And that's not even my intention - hell, arguments should be made within their own relevant context.

I'm just... its just an observation, really.

>>189447
Well hopefully that at least means if I make a video game, I don't need to worry about it being too similar.

>>189527
Saw the tagline of that website once and decided I would never enjoy anything from it ever, so I think I'll look up a review of DnD 5 elsewhere.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=134533&it=1&SRC=Newsletter_FPW_CTArpg
More non-humanoid fun.

Jeez, who did the art on this?
Game people, ask for your money back.

>>189751
To be fair, it goes both ways, I guess having not played it...
But thank for reminding me of it.

>>189751
Furries can happen to be really fucked up people, and also creators who make badly designed things.

>>189751
I guess it's for Watership Down tabletop?
If enemies face the same rules, it could be satisfying to overkill a boss just to ensure you can spare the underlings by making them too afraid to fight while you walk away.
Also sounds like good rules for a tactics game.

>>189753

The thing is the art isn't BAD? Like it's furry art. The cover art is kinda terrible but the interior art actually has some pretty good pieces that look like they'd be concept art for a Disney/Dreamworks film.

>>189758

That's why I said I guess Guro Furries could be into it but that's a pretty niche market.

>>189763

Tactics games have the benefit of having a bunch of different "players" you control. Your "health" in Chess is essentially all the pieces around your king.

Also yea enemies have the same rules but that's still a very hard divide between what the game seems to be selling and what the game is.

>>189753
Um... Could you be more specific?

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=139453&it=1&SRC=Newsletter_PoW_text
Mutant: År noll got an english relase.
AWESOME!

>>192661
I dunno.
Maybe 1d4chan has something.
And I found this: http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/135019/Dark-Heresy-Second-Edition-Core-Rulebook?filters=0_0_44242_0_0
Its on sale right now.

Im glad things like these exists.
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=106605&it=1

What?
They have to start somewhere.

>>193536
What editon were you playing?

>>193571
5e's so much more fun than 3.5.
Not saying you should play it, just started playing it and wanted to say how impressed I am.

>>193571
>I would have been ok with Pathfinder

Do you like fullcasters even more than WotC?

>>193576
Maybe he like the lore better?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTgwt_ewEFeN_P0_VlkZRfg117fOGeex5

>>193577
I didn't know there were lore differences between editions.

>>193583

Between 3.5 and 4th, yes. 4th Ed takes place sometime after 3.5, so some of the gods from before are dead, some are stronger, some are different and there's changes to a few locations. It's not well done, especially since they tried to tie in stuff like the Dragonborn from Eberron and changing the Eladrin

Pathfinder's an entirely different universe, mind, but what little I've read sounds like it's several campaign settings, all on one world/continent and that doesn't sound especially plausible, but I only recently bought the Core Rulebook for that, so I'm not totally familiar with it, yet.

Remember that griffon kickstarer?
ITS OUT!
Digitaly anyway:
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=142575&

But if you dont know if this is for out check out this instead:
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/142867/Ponyfinder--Flights-of-Honor-Pegasi-of-Everglow
Great place to start with Ponyfinder and see if the land of Everglow and its lore is something for you.
And its only a buck so what do you have to lose.(a dollar plus time but whatever)

Also if you dont like Pathfinder rules then check this:
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=142575&
Its just stat without any lore but hey, atleast the Changlings/doppleganger are in this one unlike the 4th translation...
Anyway, I hope you find something you like.
G'night!

>>193635
And I wroth out instead of you...
Fuck you my brain...

And if you want digital board games check out the weekly Humble Bundle.

Sweet been looking for a deal on those

Can I post dnd stuff here, or is there a separate thread for that?

>>195109
Nah, go for it. Any pen and paper system is game in the thread.

As long as we're talking DND, I'll toss something out here.

I'm not a huge fan of the 5th edition rules in general. I feel like it's basically just Pathfinder 2, and for the sake of the people who disliked 4th edition, sacrificed a lot of the genuine improvements that 4th Edition made--there were plenty of missteps with 4th Edition, but not every choice they made was a bad one, and they shouldn't have thrown everything out so easily just because of nerds not wanting to change.

All that being said: the Dungeon Master's Guide and the Monster Manual for 5th Edition are both really good. The DMG is probably the best DMG they've ever put out, and I think it's a pretty solid purchase even for people who aren't going to run a D&D game due to the degree to which it focuses on how to run a tabletop game, a lot of which is just good advice regardless of what system you're working in and what setting you're using. And the Monster Manual, while a little more system specific, is just really dense with useful information. Probably manages to have more content in one book than all three of the basic monster manuals from 4th Edition.

So I broke up with the group I played Pathfinder with since I got into the game and I'm scarred of looking up for another.
What do I do?

>>195129
I really like 5e's rules (but then it's my first DnD). I totally agree that the DMG and Monster Manual are extremely interesting even outside of running games, and have a ton of support and information that could help a person that isn't even working with DnD. I've applied lots of it to other more freeform games I do, and I spent way too much time just reading about all the lore in the Monster Manual and the unique mechanics monsters get. Usually DnD used to be so intimidating, both 3.5 and 4e, but for some reason 5e really grabbed me.

And now that I love 5e, the group I joined only plays like one or two times a month since I joined. I've got withdrawal bad for something I only had the smallest interest in before.

>play DnD wrath of ashardalon at local game club
>healer runs off by him self and then makes fun of the rest of when we get owned by traps and mobs and how he is winning
>in a co-op board game
//youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI

>start a new campaign with friends.
>roll paladin
>others roll a fighter specializing in throwing things, a war priest and some third thing.
>our first job is to rescue some hostages trapped in an underwater cave
>I'm the only one with any swim skills, so I have to lead
>roll a seventeen
>all three other people crit fail
>they all drown while I barely manage to fight the current and their dead weight, drag their corpses to shore, pass out.
>a bear comes out of the woods and carries the smaller guy away, dragging the rest of us because of the tow rope.

>>195494
Stop being boring.

>>195670
It not just the GM's fault people get bored.

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/151036/Ponyfinder--Small-Packages?src=hottest
Ponyfinder Pony Ponies?
MY GODS!

And finally got a group going.

Feels good man.

http://yourdndstories.tumblr.com/
>BEST
>TUMBLR
>EVER

Back for more cash I see.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224492525/ponyfinder-forgotten-past?ref=MailChimp
Yeah, Im game.

>>197051
Then why is my party getting its ass kicked?

The answser is: we are level 1, have 2 rangers,no dedicted healer(the GM was nice enough to give us a wand of cure wound) and a hobgoblin fighter played by a 13 year old asshat.
Good times but I still glad the new boardgame store guys started a DnD5 group I got in on.

So I'm stirring around this idea. Streaming Boardgames on Twitch using a very thematic setup. Pretty much an interactive play. Anyone know if Twitch has Dice roller functionality or a plugin cane be worked into it. Picking twitch mainly because that is where I know a fair number of people that might show interest.

>>197051
The fuck are you on about?

>>197074
see>>197056

>>197131

One of my worst habits was being late to a game constantly. Still is if I'm not careful, was part of a big conflict in my group that nearly broke up the session. Though we'd show up at around 12:00 or 1:00, not 10:00 or 11:00.

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
That Hobgoblin asshat has been taken care off.
I gave him a sturn talking too.
When he started singing loudly when we where trying to sneak.
Then the one and a half elfs tied him up a left him for dead intill he got lose and instead of coming to our aid agains the undead that jumped us during this, he runs away so the elf not getting mauled right now decides to try and shot him. It just fucks his ear up.

Given that he is LE, gave a notes to the gm and stayed post game to rolling a new character, it will not be the last time we see of him but he is atlest out of the party.
But being a bastard I did wright "we when this way ->" next to a fire rune trapped door we could not open before going in the opposit directions.
Can't wait to see how that plays out.

Also DnD is going great and the new Ponyfinder book is making it streach goals.
Good times.

HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS!
I just found out that HeroClix is still alive!

//youtube.com/watch?v=TEng-jFP3Oc
Bit late but okay.

New Ponyfinder stuff:
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/155679/Ponyfinder--Born-to-Magic?src=newest
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/156203/Ponyfinder--Living-Large?src=newest_recent

Does anybody know of any RPGs that don't have a combat system, or at least don't consider the #1 solution to any problem "Smack it until it dies"? One of the people in my roleplaying club is trying to start a "RPGs for kids" group, and she doesn't want to encourage the murderhobo mentality...

>>197814
Fate has a combat system, but that's not the focus of the game or even necessarily something that has to come up at all. In fact, it makes it clear that those conflict rules can just as easily be used for social conflicts rather than physical conflicts, with the stakes just as high (whether we're talking physical or mental, conflicts end with opponents being "taken out," which just means the one who took them out gets to decide their fate as long as it makes sense--in a battle, that fate could be killed, or knocked out, or fell off a cliff to uncertain fate--in a mental conflict it could be running off in embarrassment, or being dragged off in ignomity, or whatever).

Fiasco might also work, though that's built with the assumption that things are going to go like a Coen Brothers movie, which often does involve a lot of death--but that's not necessarily built into the rules, just how the playsets usually tend to get used.

>>197818
Other good options might be Shock! or Everyone is John.

I am getting REALLY sick you the guy(s) at my local games club that are all like:
"LOL, I hope you party wipe, that would be really funny LÖL!"

Also is Dragon Knight a real DnD 5 class?

Because thats what he showed up as when we needid a new tank...

Yea...

Atlest the 13 year olds new Half-orc Barbarian is kind of awesome, because he rolled max STR and we gave him that large great club we got of the skeleton ogre, so he does sick damage now.

>>197818
You underestimate how easy it is for kids to be murderhobos; apparently, the friend who asked tried running a FFG Star Wars game that was all-Jedi, and they still went Tarantino on a couple of NPCs. Kids don't really understand death, so it's not too surprising. I'm looking more for something like Ryuutama or Little Wizards.
>>197819
Not sure how a game about controlling a schizophrenic would go down with kids...
>>197822
>giving Mongoose money
... Why?

>>197981
Is there something wrong with Mongoose? It's the only Traveller system I've played.

>>197981
How about Do: Pilgrims of the Flying Temple?

>>197981
What about Call of Cthulhu?
There is no combat in that and its the season to be scary~

And if thats to hardcore, you know who to call:
//youtube.com/watch?v=ALBLAnpcnFU

>>197985
https://ghostbustersinc.wordpress.com/media/ghostbusters-the-roleplaying-game/

>>197814
Toon has violence, but because it's slapstick characters just fundamentally don't die. I could see a creative animator (what the game calls the GM) finding ways to skirt that for the sake of story by bringing back characters as bedsheet ghosts and such when appropriate, but not a player causing death of their own accord.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/idwgames/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shadows-of-the-past-b
//youtube.com/watch?v=8QfSzgV1q5g

>>199129
Love the Pizza Box Exclusive

>>199137

Cool, also good idea. Been thinking how to setup my Tabletop stream. So far its Custom Modules Built around a unique story. Each Module about 1-2 hours of play time So I can do one a week.

Is GURPS still the one to go with for custom stuff.

IDW TMNT board game gameplay.
//youtube.com/watch?v=TrV9WhPAAhY
Looking good.

>>199139
>Is GURPS still the one to go with for custom stuff.
>
Personally, I'd say Fate is best for custom stuff, at least if it's narrative driven. But GURPS and Fate come from very different mindsets about roleplaying. GURPS is much more crunchy and rules-oriented and Fate is much more story-oriented.

>>199181

Cool Fate may work better since these are basically short stories I make into modules.

>>199169 TMNT board game stream.
http://www.twitch.tv/dfwnerdnight/v/43733561

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/paizo-pathfinder-bundle
If you want Pathfinder books cheap.

>>199391
And I did not get them in time because I miss read the timer...
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!

//youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8sl2uC46A

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224492525/ponyfinder-dawn-of-the-fifth-age
If you care.

Anyone been following this kickstarter?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2115086518/giga-robo

Basically a mecha boardgame, looks pretty cool.

They've already hit their main goal so now its all stretch goals for a couple of weeks.
Also they have a social goal thing set up to release an art/universe lore book that all backers will get for free, something I really hope works out personally.

Humble Bundle is having a Vampire the Masquerade Bundle up right now.

Anyone have examples of expressly awful roleplaying games outside of the standard goto of FATAL?

Posting this as a basic starter since I just came across it on /tg/, shouldn't be that hard to outdo it.
http://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-and-friends/kurieg/bellum-maga/

>>201290
The System Mastery podcast goes into old awful roleplaying games, there's a ton there.

https://imgur.com/gallery/BWnHF

Does this shit still bumps?

>>202150
Some of those are pretty damn clever. The elf food looks particularly tasty.

>>202466
What's so hard about DMing a different genre?

So is your group that has you burn out?

>>202470
That's normal, do your part and try something different.

>>202470
That is some quality arght.

Its silly that in pnp rpgs that all the nonhuman player races get "subraces" but humans do not.

Like it's somehow cricket to boil down the other species into crude shallow stereotypes with their capacities and behaviors defined by their racial background but not the humans.

>>418773
dangerous thinking

>>418814
Don't even get started on all the sapient nonhuman non-player races that are "Always Evil" that exist to provide sword fodder for the pcs.

>>419097
You know, that's the succubus equivalent of "you'll never have sex in your life". Pretty cruel, considering.

>>419098
Presumably its more useful when playing Pathfinder and Succubi are actual monsters that are trying to steal your life/soul.

They can't complain of hurt feelings when its self-defense.

Hey Paper & Pen thread, how did you get up here?

>>197330
>a dire hamster lair
>dire hamster
Is that a thing?

>>423871
>We have life and twilight clerics, a swarmkeeper ranger, an armorer artificier, and two aberrant mind sorcerers
I've not kept up up with D&D for editions now so these terms are just bizarre to me.

>>423873
Well, you have your main class which is the basic stuff: cleric, wizard, fighter, etc. These offer the majority of functions for a class, usually.

Then there's the archetype, which is usually chosen between levels 1-3 in a class and offer additional abilities. It has different names per class, but that's essentially it. Does the wizard specialize in necromancy, evocation, hitting things with a sword, etc.? That's a decision made at level 2. Fighters decide whether they're a psychic, mage, expert strategist, etc. at level 3. They're also fluffed different ways and can massively impact builds. You only get 1 archetype per class, too. It's a critical decision that can tell you more about a character than their class a lot of the time.

Also, it can muddy the waters somewhat. You can have characters that are warlocks or paladins to the same diety and they'll still play differently, but could have the same fluff because certain archtypes enable that. Saying someone is an Oath of Redemption Paladin or a Warlock with a Celestial Patron just shifts the mechanics a bit.

Don't play D&D the roleplaying game but apparently the development of Baldur's Gate 3 is running into problems, thought it worth mentioning.

Some people say it might get abandoned but that feels a bit extreme in reaction, certainly has had an extremely dragged-out 'Early Access' development period though for a Triple-A game.

Things have been really fucked up recently in regards to WotC's treatment and behaviour towards their customers.

>>424382
WotC: "WE'RE NOT OWNED! YOU DIDNT WIN!" | Castle Super Beast Clips

>>425294
The original AD&D Dog-faced Kobold. 3.5 & 4e's hyperfixation on dragons and monsters looking overly pointy and angry gave my an appreciation of the older edition's diversity of weird looking critters. The point of kobolds were that they were basically cave fodder; not first round mobs for a dragon boss battle.

>>425299
There's lots of cave fodder isn't there though, like goblins.

>>424931
This is more
>Live Action adaptation
Than the Live-Action movie.

The wanker in the beretis the back is goofy, hard to tell if he's giving a battlecry or shit his pants.
The other guy it took me a long time to even notice him being there.