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No.473423
General Disney thread.Anonymous
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As the title says. This is a general Disney thread.
Where we will talk about: (mini)series, movies, comics, etc... Past, Present and Future.
Accepted: Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars. And crossovers (including non). But less content.
Don't forget to post fanart.
No.473453
Anonymous
Replies:>>480393
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So, I heard there's going to be a new Phineas and Ferb season.
No.474575
Anonymous
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I like westaboo art
No.474577
Anonymous
My local Target and Costco still have Wish merchandise shelfwarming
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Anonymous
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No.474942
Anonymous
Replies:>>479497
>>474575
I think there's actually even a specific westaboo art thread over on /jam/ if you wanna give it a browse.
No.474947
Anonymous
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>The hunting writer David Petersen talks about Bambi and the concept it represents in the popular imagination in his book Heartsblood (2003). Petersen opposes “Bambi syndrome” on both cultural and ecological bases. First and foremost, he notes, Bambi plants a seed of "ill-founded guilt" in the public’s imagination. Ecologically, the story of Bambi completely distorts the reality of deer biology and wildlife management. Petersen presents a clear and concise explanation of the ecological sense in hunting young deer. (It is too in-depth to cover here, but in short, killing young deer amounts to what ecologists have called “compensatory mortality” and is a natural part of maintaining healthy deer population dynamics.)

>Bambi presents a totally unrealistic view of forest ecology and interactions among wild animals. It is anthropomorphism to its most sinister and damaging extent. Walt Disney was morally opposed to hunting and it was a deliberate decision on his part to exclude all wildlife predators from the film adaptation of Bambi in order to portray humans as the only enemies of wildlife. Disney used anthropomorphism repeatedly over the years, realizing that this kind of deliberate manipulation of nature was a gold mine. So even if Bambi incidentally brought people to conservation, let’s agree for a moment that it was not the film’s primary intention. Petersen also notes that film critic Roger Ebert questioned the film’s suitability for young audiences, saying, “I am not sure it’s a good experience for children – especially young and impressionable ones.”
No.474949
Anonymous
Replies:>>474954>>475577
Shitting on Disney has become very popular these last couple years (God knows they've earned some antipathy for the painfully mediocre live action remakes and for fucking up Marvel, Star Wars, and their own original IPs) but I think they've made some truly wonderful films, even in the last couple years. At their best, they make mature, beautifully written and animated films that strike the heart.
No.474954
Anonymous
Replies:>>474955>>474962
>>474949
Dude, the creator of Bambi fucking hated Disney for turning his book into a childish movie for 8 year olds. He's one of the few famous figures who openly denounced Disney for that. J.R.R. Tolkien was another.

Bambi is a garbage movie outside the animation but it completely lacks any of the original story's content.

Keep in mind that nobody has managed to do a better adaption of Bambi due to Disney's IP shenanigans--the author of the book sold the rights to them during WWII because he really badly needed money. Fuck Disney to Hell.
No.474955
Anonymous
Replies:>>474965
>>474954
Wrong. Bambi is Disney's secondgreatest film, and an astounding cinematic accomplishment. The novel author not liking it because it's not his exact headcanon does not matter. Disney facilitated a work that was very profound, interesting, and frankly superior. The same games for certain other films, such as Kubrick's Shining.
No.474962
Anonymous
Replies:>>474968
>>474954
Nah, the Bambi film and its simple exploration of the circle of life is more interesting than the book. The book has several flaws, like deer sitting around doing shit like discussing God or the sadistic hunter somehow massacring several animals at once. The film is much more concise and powerful.
No.474965
Anonymous
>>474955
>The novel author
>headcanon
Petition to dig up Roland Barthes and throw stones at him.
No.474968
Anonymous
Replies:>>475059>>475072
>>474962
>deer sitting around doing shit like discussing God
It stretches the anthropomorphism of the characters. The Bambi film is about animals dealing with animal problems like fires and hunters. They don't speculate about God because they're fucking dumb animals.

>the sadistic hunter somehow massacring several animals at once
He'd have to be a retardedly good shot to hit a bunch of fleeing animals in the scant few seconds he'd have. Him just gunning down Bambi's mother is much more believable.

>Disney movie delivers the same message better.
It doesn't deliver a message, it shows the cycle of life and rebirth, showing how Bambi grows from a frolicking fawn to a replacement for the Great Prince, with children of his own. It's more interesting and universal than the book's "MUH DEER ARE ACTUALLY JEWS." It also does it without all the unnecessary characters and dialog.
No.475059
Anonymous
>>474968
There is a non-zero chance that this anon reads abridgments.
No.475064
Anonymous
Replies:>>475077>>475087>>479034>>480848
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I visited my local library yesterday and they had this book talking about a bunch of cancelled Disney projects from short films to theatrical
Apparently they had difficulties adapting Chanticleer because they weren't sure if audiences would find a rooster to be a compelling, sympathetic, immediately interesting protagonist
No.475072
Anonymous
Replies:>>475076>>475079
>>474968
>It's more interesting and universal than the book's "MUH DEER ARE ACTUALLY JEWS." It also does it without all the unnecessary characters and dialog
This is where I knew you were trolling so I'm stopping the argument here. I'm not arguing with a Disney tard brain semen guzzle
No.475076
Anonymous
>>475072
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi,_a_Life_in_the_Woods
>Bambi, a Life in the Woods (German: Bambi: Eine Lebensgeschichte aus dem Walde) is a 1923 Austrian coming-of-age novel written by Felix Salten, and originally published in Berlin by Ullstein Verlag. The novel traces the life of Bambi, a male roe deer, from his birth through childhood, the loss of his mother, the finding of a mate, the lessons he learns from his father, and the experience he gains about the dangers posed by human hunters in the forest. It is also, in its most complete translation, seen as a parable of the dangers and persecution faced by Jews in Europe.[1]
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/dec/25/bambi-cute-lovable-vulnerable-or-a-dark-parable-of-antisemitic-terror
It's true. The film's simple story is more powerful than Salten's bloated proto-Holocaust kitsch.
No.475077
Anonymous
>>475064
Simpler doesn't mean better. And tbqh Disney's version dumbed it down to the point of being flat-out infantile. The book is far better in regards to what it's trying to convey than the movie is. The sense of danger is completely gone.
No.475079
Anonymous
>>475072
As if you actually have anything interesting to say anyway. Like copypasting from a known schizo and passing it off as your own writing or repeating uhh it's dumbed down has any interest to most people.
No.475087
Anonymous
Replies:>>475582
>>475064
>They weren't sure if audiences would find a rooster to be a compelling, sympathetic, immediately interesting protagonist
They already made Panchito by then through
No.475577
Anonymous
>>474949
To be honest I assumed they'd get their together like what led to the Renaissance and Revival eras.
Not so sure now
No.475582
Anonymous
>>475087
>In 1960, Walt said, “Go for the fun stuff! We should really have a ball with this type of picture. The Fox represents the conniving element; he's always misleading people. Chanticleer represents the good solid citizen. Get personalities into the minor characters. When you see a dog, you don't need anything. But you take a rooster…you don't feel like picking a rooster up and petting it.”
Chanticleer was also very egotistical and the Disney plot made him even more arrogant before the reveal
No.478783
Anonymous
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>The originally planned script for "Lady and the Tramp" featured Old Trusty dying of his injuries after being struck by a carriage. This was changed to him merely being injured, but surviving after Peggy Lee, who performed the soundtrack for the movie, didn't like the original idea and begged Walt Disney to change it, as the scene brought back traumatic memories of her childhood dog dying in her arms years earlier. "Please don't show the dog dying, it would be too sad," she protested. Walt countered that the scene was necessary for dramatic effect. When she continued by arguing "The children will cry if they see that", Walt reluctantly gave in, telling her "Alright, Trusty gets to live. But we're keeping the rat."[39]
No.478786
Anonymous
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>This isn't a joke anymore
No.478801
Anonymous
>>478783
based Walt for putting 'hos in their place
No.478822
Anonymous
Replies:>>478990
>>478783
So Walt made his animators clock out and reanimate it on their own time or else he'd get the FBI to investigate them for being suspected communists.
No.478990
Anonymous
>>478822
meds
No.478991
Anonymous
>>478783
Woman moment.
No.479013
Anonymous
>>479009
>When this one's copyright expires along with Fantasia Mickey its going to deal a real blow to Disney.
Don't threaten us with a good time.
No.479034
Anonymous
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>>475064
>Apparently they had difficulties adapting Chanticleer because they weren't sure if audiences would find a rooster to be a compelling, sympathetic, immediately interesting protagonist
Give 'em lutes and they're good-to-go.

>>479017
Virgin hands typed this.
No.479044
Anonymous
Replies:>>480970
>>479017
While this was said in the most antagonistic way possible, I do think it's largely true. It's why Disney was in such a rush to acquire "Boys Media" franchises like Marvel and Star Wars, they openly admitted that they were trying to "buy" a share in the boys market that largely eschew their works. We're still seeing the fallout of this, but with Star Wars being one of the most high-profile disasters of brand mismanagement in recent memory, resulting in slumping sales, it might not end up having the effect they desired. I have to wonder what exactly it is about Disney's management that makes them unable to crack into the male demographic. What are the decisions they are making at a management level that makes them different from Nintendo's approach with regards to a family friendly, general audience appeal across multiple demographics?
No.479047
Anonymous
Replies:>>479469
>>479017
IDK it's not always that way. Stuff like The Goofy Movie was clearly aimed at guys after all.
No.479458
Anonymous
Hah, edgelord
No.479468
Anonymous
>>479009
Not really because once the copyright is gone Disney will use trademarks to proceed with frivolous lawsuits against anyone that dares to use their now public IPs, the tarzan estate already does this. and contrary to copyright these don't have a expiring date.
No.479469
Anonymous
>>479047
A Goofy Movie and Treasure Planet are arguably the only "masculine" Disney movies.
No.479497
Anonymous
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>>474575
>>474942
Yeah, there's a big ol' westaboo art thread there >>>/jam/88632

>>479017
>>479017
>>479009
>nuked
Picrel.
No.479883
Anonymous
Replies:>>480216
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So /pol/fags actually get deleted on plus4chan? Or only when they lose it and go on overly extended rants out of nowhere.

>Fairy Orgy
No.480216
Anonymous
Replies:>>480218>>480353
>>479883
Stating the obvious of Disney being a largely effeminate studio that takes no risks has nothing to do with /pol/faggotry, you don't want to die on that hill for the sake of a megacorporation.
No.480218
Anonymous
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>>480216
The only one dying is the dude that got presumably banned.
No.480223
Anonymous
Replies:>>480226
>>480218
Did he? People here have said actually politically incorrect stuff before and never got banned over it.
No.480226
Anonymous
Replies:>>480307
>>480223
That's why I brought it up in the first place, seemed notable.
No.480307
Anonymous
Replies:>>480320
>>480226
Tbf, I think that was the deletefag, he deletes his own post for some reason after a while, which is a shame because despite being mean, they more often than not makes valid points, Disney sabotaging starwars will never not be infuriating
No.480314
Anonymous
Replies:>>480347
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>>473423
I was saving this for another bootleg thread, but I couldn't wait this long to post this, because bootleg Ariel is pure sexo
No.480320
Anonymous
Replies:>>480424>>480987
>>480307
>he deletes his own post for some reason after a while
That was fairly common on 4chan before they narrowed the timeframe for deleting posts and limited how many you could delete per day. Someone would post a multi-part screed, realize they sounded like an unhinged jerk and delete.
No.480347
Anonymous
>>480314
So much so they knew that even though there's two other princess there with her on the package they knew she'd be the only thing you'd want on your phone.
No.480353
Anonymous
Replies:>>480935
>>480216
Dude's been spamming it as a copypasta with various tweaks on regular /co/ for years. I remember when it included something along the lines of "Mickey's voice sounds like that because his balls are being squeezed in a vice in the name of feminism".
No.480393
Anonymous
>>473453
heh
No.480424
Anonymous
Replies:>>480434
>>480320
it was 10 minutes before you could delete your own post and there was a cooldown time like you couldn't delete too many in a 5 or 10 minute space
No.480434
Anonymous
>>480424
I know, but in the early days of the site it was more like this place.
No.480699
Anonymous
Replies:>>480972
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>>480697
No.480713
Anonymous
Finally got around to watching Encanto after years of 4/co/ telling me it was dogshit and to be avoided. It was delightful.

Why the fuck does anyone ever listen to them?
No.480762
Anonymous
>>473423
I'll be honest, i promised to completely ditch anything and everything Disney if they release that live action Snow White, and since they did i will no longer have anything to do with them ever again.
No.480798
Anonymous
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>>480794
>shitty agenda trash like Zootopia 2 that shitty first movie was blatantly a Leftist Agenda Factory. I can believe kids laugh at funny talking animals like in Ice Age or Madagascar but Zootopia was a boring shitty preaching agenda spam fest, that crap is not going to entertain anyone except the stupid activists who want to use cartoons to indoctrinate children.
No.480837
Anonymous
>>480794
Speaking of kids, do you think Nintendo is gonna become the next disney?
No.480848
Anonymous
Replies:>>480883
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>>475064
I was honestly thinking about holding out until /co/ proper can come back but I'm just gonna say it
For all the bashing Disney gets for altering the source material of various fairy tales or books, does anyone else think Chantecler not being adapted by Disney was a killing blow to the source material's legacy?
Think about it
They were keen on adapting this story at some point with Walt being introduced to the idea of adapting it and the studio bounced the idea around and around for years (albeit with much struggling) until Don Bluth beat them to it (albeit looser than even Disney's original plans for it) and failed so hard that Disney just gave up on even entertaining the thought once more.
The story is in the public domain yet nobody wants to touch Chantecler.
I can't find any performances of the play in English, nothing professional or amateur.
It's not like Rostand was a nobody either, he wrote Cyrano which gets adapted all the time.
I'm not sure if the story is even remembered that well in its native country of France granted I can find footage of it being performed.
And yeah I get the story IS a tough sell to take seriously especially today's more cynical world (which is funnily sad given the themes of the original text) but I wouldn't be surprised that if Disney did adapt the film we'd see the original tale of Chantecler at least be more recognizable.
But then again, I just realized when making this post that I've never seen anyone talk about or acknowledge the source material behind Lady & The Tramp (yes really, kind of), The Aristocrats, The Great Mouse Detectives, One Hundred and One Dalmatians, etc so maybe the original play would've just ended up like those (which might still be an improvement)
Fox and the Hound's source book gets brought up because of how depressing and blunt it is and I don't recall anything Chantecler has that would even remotely work for clickbait material
No.480860
Anonymous
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You know how people make art depicting hypothetical anime, video games, western cartoons, comics, etc
I'd love to see people drew art that depicts what the stills of cancelled animated films could've looked like based on what we know of the plots and concept art of them
I kind of want to live in the timeline where Yesterday is Over is a thing
No.480883
Anonymous
Replies:>>480884>>480889
>>480848
Speaking of fairy tale adaptations, there're not many important ones left to make a Disney adaptation for, I believe that the only one missing to add to their disney princess brand is Rumpelstiltskin and that's it, I wonder what they're gonna do once the run out of fairy tales to adapt because their original ones aren't that popular compered to the other princesses
No.480884
Anonymous
Replies:>>480885
>>480883
Its not like importance or the story even having a princess to begin with shopped them.
Frozen is very loosely based on the Snow Queen after all and its peak popularity resurged the brand
inb4 the Snow Queen counts
She was the villain/antagonist/whatever
So was Elsa for most of the film's development
If Disney wanted to add a new princess they could probably find some old novel in the public domain and claim dibs before anyone else and proceed to adapt it in such a way that it might as well be an entirely original project period.
No.480885
Anonymous
>>480884
*to begin with stopped them
No.480889
Anonymous
Replies:>>480973
>>480883
Chantecler isn't a fairy tale though
It's a play from 1910
But that kind of raises a question for me personally, how many of Disney's animated features are actually based on fairy tales and not novels, plays, folklore (does that count as a fairy tale?), a magazine short story, a Marvel comic, etc
Disney's not really picky about what they'd even want to adapt especially when you look at the list of their cancelled projects.
FFS they were gonna adapt a Philip K. Dick short story that heavily implied the main character went senile, lost touch of reality, and murdered his best friend in a fit of delusion
No.480904
Anonymous
Replies:>>480913
>>480900
The Zootopia documentary was a fucking eye-opener
If the film's development was that fucking messy just imagine just how bad of a mess say Gigantic was
Also, if anyone says the shock collar plot as shown in that cut footage was better they're either ignorant or stupid
The documentary laid out everything that was wrong with the shock collar idea and I say this as someone who wanted Dystopian Zootopia at first
Was it more interesting and original?
Definitely but it was at the detriment of what the film was actively trying to achieve with its setting, the literal reason why they were making the film to begin with.
No.480909
Anonymous
Replies:>>480919
>>480844
>and Disney would never dare to make something as edgy as Metroid not under their Disney logo anyway
Pirates of the Carribean?
The Black Hole?
No.480910
Anonymous
Replies:>>480919
>>480844
>and Disney would never dare to make something as edgy as Metroid not under their Disney logo anyway.
I know the gargoyles hold it back a lot but Hunchback of Notre Dame?
Frollo is still the darkest villain they've had
No.480913
Anonymous
Replies:>>480925
>>480904
>the literal reason why they were making the film to begin with.
Furries?
No.480914
Anonymous
So is the whinging schizo gonna delete his posts again, what exactly sets him off?
No.480915
Anonymous
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How will Disney stop the bleeding?
No.480919
Anonymous
>>480909
>Pirates of the Carribean?
8 years ago.
>The Black Hole?
46 years ago.
>>480910
>Hunchback of Notre Dame?
29 years ago
No.480925
Anonymous
Replies:>>480984
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>>480913
They wanted to make a film that was a throwback to Robin Hood styled anthropomorphic animal adventures so they first settled on a spy movie.
Then they came up with a city for all these animals to live in and as they were developing this setting for the film they realized that was far more interesting than any of the spy stuff so they changed focus.
They needed a new conflict so they settled on the predator vs prey dynamic with the shock collars.
Nick was the original lead focus and not Judy during all this.
When Pixar saw the early versions of Zootopia, they weren't too pleased.
Pic related
The problem wasn't just that it was "too dark" or "too mature", it was that it made Zootopia as a setting too unlikable.
You know how people celebrate the aliens in Chicken Little invading the townspeople because said townspeople were mostly just a bunch of dicks?
Zootopia's problem was basically that.
You don't want Zootopia to be saved, you just want it to burn to the ground with Nick and Judy fucking leaving.
You don't save the dystopia, you save yourself from it.
Paraphrasing John Lasseter (like or hate the guy, he was right), the problem was that the film was still trying to get audiences to "love Zootopia" and when it's just blatantly so corrupt that having the film insist that it's redeemable or lovable is just laughable and Nick and Judy somehow "saving" the city so easily just feels like bs.
No.480935
Anonymous
>>480353
Haha jesus, that's pathetic. And he'd even come to a new board just to continue his autism.
No.480965
Anonymous
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I found out recently that Dumbo had a remake that got so much bad press even the director admitted it was a mistake.

I managed to stomach half of it before putting it down. I cannot begin to describe how much of a mess it is, if I said it was a covid movie it'd make sense, but it was made before covid, and now I think things that blamed covid for being shit are lying.

It's like it was made by a robot. Or 1,500 writers who were contractually obliged to not talk to one another during production. Or both.
Did Disney recover from shitting the bed in the late 2010s?
No.480970
Anonymous
Replies:>>480977
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>>479044
>I have to wonder what exactly it is about Disney's management that makes them unable to crack into the male demographic.
If we were living 20-30 years ago I think Disney would be able to do it because of the media landscape back then.
The hot audiences to crack into are the masculine female audience, and the feminine male audience.

I genuinely think they have an issue with being girly and that's part of why they don't understand boys.
No.480972
Anonymous
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>>480699
>filename
Called it.
No.480973
Anonymous
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>>480889
>Chantecler isn't a fairy tale though
>It's a play from 1910

>Chanticleer and the Fox is a fable that dates from the Middle Ages. Though it can be compared to Aesop's fable of The Fox and the Crow, it is of more recent origin. The story became well known in Europe because of its connection with several popular literary works and was eventually recorded in collections of Aesop's Fables from the time of Heinrich Steinhowel and William Caxton onwards. It is numbered 562 in the Perry Index.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanticleer_and_the_Fox
No.480974
Anonymous
Replies:>>480987
>>480972
Congratulations. This sort of mental impairment is new to me despite my many years on 4chan, can't quite wrap my head around it since it seems entirely pointless a thing to do.
No.480977
Anonymous
>>480970
Normies just want Disney to stay in its lane of princesses and musicals, why do you think animation fans define the Renaissance and Revival as "Time periods when Disney made princess musicals"?
No.480984
Anonymous
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>>480912
>Hey everybody we HAVE to keep being a homosexual diverse multicultural society like how the homo director of Zootopia insists and please ignore the OBVIOUS failings of multiculturalism.
I don't recall it having this flaw. The entire multicult stuff seems to be so secondary to the plot you could drop it and no-one would notice.

>blah blah blah blah
It's a coming of age/moving to the city/grrl power plot and you're schizo. Stop watching movies for girls. You're a boy.
At worst it has toxic femininity such as Judy telling the cheetah cop he's committing wrongthink.
The Godfather reference overstays its welcome and should have been removed as soon as it was suggested for how it's plot irrelevant, genre irrelevant and creatively bankrupt. It isn't what you think it is.
I'm still annoyed that no-one else on planet earth saw the fat cheetah and realised it's a "Cops R fat pigs, lolll" joke given and ironic twist of a species swap to get away from the very same stereotyping the creators pretend the movie is about.

>the final cut's themes and message is total shit
Yes I agree. Now leave this website forever, you're ruining it.

>>480925
>You don't want Zootopia to be saved, you just want it to burn to the ground with Nick and Judy fucking leaving.
Makes me think of the cyberpunk genre.
I was upset when the Zootopia story wasn't actually exploring Zootopia. There was zero all terrain policing.
No.480987
Anonymous
>>480974
See >>480320
No.481048
Mister Twister
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>>480984
If you want all terrain policing, eventually you will be policing in the arctic region. So snow & ice, below zero. For non-arctic animals. They will have to give Judy and Nick shoes of some sort.
No.481057
Anonymous
Replies:>>481058
>>480984
>I'm still annoyed that no-one else on planet earth saw the fat cheetah and realised it's a "Cops R fat pigs, lolll" joke given and ironic twist of a species swap to get away from the very same stereotyping the creators pretend the movie is about.
The joke doesn't work if the guy is basically a secretary.
No.481058
Anonymous
Replies:>>481432
>>481057
>>480984
Yeah it seems like the actual joke is he's a cheetah, know for being sleek and speedy creatures, but this one is fat. Probably because he's a desk jockey.

Its like trying too hard to get offended by something here.
No.481124
Anonymous
Replies:>>481149
>>480973
Completely different stories
Chanticleer literally just means rooster
No.481149
Anonymous
>>481124
Fair enough.
No.481432
Anonymous
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>>481048
Egad, we can't have shoes!
>>481058
>desk jockey
That's not how the police works.

Let's go to the clip
"Meet Clawhauser" Clip - Zootopiayoutube thumb
>cheetah: negative character traits galore
>"A nigga can call a nigga a nigga but when other peeps do it..."
>"I'm so sorry, me, Benjamin Clawhauser, the guy everyone thinks is just a flabby donut loving cop, stereotyping you"
I thought that was him being sarcastic when I first saw that in the cinema.
Openly stating "I'm a big dumb fat pig who loves donuts" and making him a character with zero positive traits... making the animal ironic is to deflect any offence caused "Um, actually he's not a fat pig, he's just a fat pig who's a cat, oink oink". And then if you remember the movie's message about not stereotyping and how the rabbit who just walked in and gaslit him about an enforced stereotype about her and her race is our hero for breaking gender/race stereotypes... oh boy I think that scene is terrible.

It reminds me of Coco and how the only person who gave the hero actual advice to break the cycle of intergenerational pain was the villain. No-one proofreads scripts for thematic problems anymore.
No.481474
Anonymous
>>480984
>Makes me think of the cyberpunk genre
IIRC the writer of 2077 said the genre isnt about saving humanity, it's about saving yourself.
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