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Avatar really went to shit after the original show ended. Hell to be honest it was starting to go to shit in the final episode where Aang was whining too much about having to nut up and kill Ozai and instead gets the double whammy of a magical creature showing up to give him a new form of bending letting him get out of it and getting the Avatar State back via randomly slamming against a pointy rock on his scarred back injury mid-fight with no ill effects.
It only got worse from there when Korra appeared with her show, then on top of that the post-series comics featuring Aang and friends were fucking terrible worse-than-fanfic drek that destroyed the character writing of everyone.
>>456105 Well, it's really the Ozai fight Lion Turtle copout solution + WHERE IS MUH MOTHER unnecessary cliff hanger. Otherwise it was a great show that did a lot of great things (an anim00ted show with a beginning, middle, and end MOSTLY well planned). Otherwise, /thread
>>456102 People could start talking about it. At least to remember old times. At least to hate watching it, I think that would be fun. >>456105 Yeah, the Turtle was quite dumb, I don't understand what they were thinking. Avatar has tons of potetial for lateral development but they have proven they don't know how to do it properly. Case point: Korra, Wan, etc.
>>456165 Korra was made when Bryke regressed as writers, spent too much time on Tumblr where they learned all critics are haters to be ignored, plus the main other writer of Avatar left and did not come back. I think the terminally edgy boi E;R got is almost entirely right.
>>456166 I listened to the Avatar episode of Nickelodeon Animation Podcast; Avatar creators explained Korra's finale was so shit because they rushed production and they actually say "sorry", lmao. I should try to watch Korra again, my mind just zooned out around the fifth episode of season 2 and haven't tried it again since.
Its somewhat masturbatory but the only thing I miss about Avatar is the fan works, as in very specific ones where places like /co/ would collaberate as a whole on having fun and actually managing to come up with amusing stuff. Certainly more amusing than what we got from the actual sequels.
Why did the the writing after the original show was over seem to hate Sokka/Suki so much? The comics had that random teasing about her and Zuko of all people. Why didn't Sokka get any children mentioned unlike the rest as adults? If anything he was the one most likely to have 'em.
>>456074 >Plus with a resurgence happening thanks to the newly created Avatar Studios and the upcoming Netflix adaption. >It would've prospered. I come from the far future of 2025. It didn't. Enjoy your RoK/Age of Empires Mobile reskin.
>>486576 >>486575 Its basically an anime series movie with an older Gaang going on a filler adventure (an evil airbender is defrosted and he's looking for an artifact staff that has the spirit of an Avatar contained within it). The animation is fancy but the writing is stupid, the fights are alot more animu rather than avatar and they changed various voice actors of the original cast.
>>486575 I liked it, it's fun. You get an explanation of why the nomads were so prone to genocide they used to be a great civilization led by a previous Avatar, there was a earth kingdom uprising and this avatar refused to defend his people, this led to a civilization collapse of the Air Empire from which they never recovered.
So I dragged my ass all the way back here after, what, ten years or something?, to see if maybe /a/ was unlocked or someone at least had bugged an admin to make a few threads for posting about the new stuff, but nope. Check out these threads to see people just bitching about the new stuff. So I guess, same as it ever was.
Honestly, I think Seven Havens is actually good. It doesn't suffer from some of the stupid kiddie humor that make Legend of Korra awkward sometimes, but it does have some funny stuff. The bending/fight scenes are good, the characters are good, and maybe no one but me will care, but the gay/LGBTQ+ characters are good representation AND well fleshed-out characters instead of just token sidekicks or something.
I would like somewhere to discuss this, but social media is cancer, regular 4chan is toxic, and... well, forums basically don't exist anymore.
Please consider reopening /a/, or at least give us a thread or two to post about the new stuff? The netflix show is abysmal from what I heard, but we could bitch about it there. Haven't seen the movie yet, but all signs point to some bad writing, though it might warrant a C+ on some other parts. But Seven Havens is actually really good and I wish I had other nerds to discuss this with.
>>487330 This site doesn't see much activity outside /tnt/, /sssr/ and /md/ anymore, so your best bet is to either post ITT or create a thread dedicated to the new series and direct anons over here from Prime.
>>487343 Fair enough. I guess I'll start by seeing if there's any interest here. Looks like there are at least a few scattered fans hanging around.
I finished both Seven Havens and the Avatar Aang movie last weekend. I wanted to catch up on everything before I came back. I started off avoiding spoilers for the movie, but a few comments on it made me think it wasn't going to be very good, so I went ahead and spoiled the whole thing for myself by reading a couple plot summaries, which didn't do anything to boost my confidence. I ended up watching it anyway, though, going in with low expectations, and was pleasantly surprised to find it was actually GOOD. Not the greatest thing ever, and there were a few REALLY stupid moments, but they weren't enough to tank the whole thing, so I ended up enjoying it overall, enough to recommend to other fans I know offline, though with a few caveats.
Seven Havens managed to prove good throughout the whole show. I know the fandom is really divided on Legend of Korra, but I enjoyed it anyway, despite the flaws. By comparison, Seven Havens has only minor things to nitpick at, as far as I'm concerned. It remained pretty solid throughout. It might take a while to get used to the new world, especially if you're someone who doesn't like change, such as those who didn't like the slightly more modern setting of LoK, but I find it interesting. I do have a few criticisms, but I got invested and kept looking forward to each new batch of episodes. For some reason, they were being released three at a time, with four on the final day, so it felt a little rushed, but I spaced them out a bit instead of watching them all at once.
It's hard to give the Aang movie a rating, but I'd say it's definitely worth a watch.
Seven Havens gets a solid 'A' from me, and I'm really picky about what I like, so that's impressive. I hope they keep up the quality through the other three books.
The downside is needing paramount+ to watch these. Or, you know, hoisting the ol' skull-and-bones. I'm planning to buy both when they're available on physical media, though, because I want to support them. But as for the netflix series, I'm not even gonna bother with that right now.
>>487372 >Anybody else have any thoughts on any these? I haven't caught up on the new Avatar media yet (and don't know when I'll be able to), but I just wanted to say that I love how measured your post is. It's such a welcome change of pace from what I remember about Avatar threads (and threads in general) on /co/ Prime, where things were only allowed to be either the "BEST thing EVER" or the "WORST thing EVER", with no space for nuance.
I hope your post gets more (and better) engagement than I can offer.
>>487373 Thanks. I never posted much on /co/ Prime, and when I was really into Avatar stuff, I mostly posted here, which is why I miss it. The threads here on +/a/ were usually pretty good, although sometimes there was some friction, like when the stupid M. Night movie came out.
I'm picky about a lot of my entertainment, but I try to at least give reasons why I don't like something, or reasonable criticism, rather than just saying it sucks without explanation. And even stuff I love isn't immune from criticism, so I'm not going to get into a huge fight if someone dares say one tiny negative thing about my favorites. I guess it can seem like reasonable online discourse is rare these days, depending on where you go.
I haven't looked into it much yet, but I have heard from various posts online that it sounded like they were trying to retcon Kuruk's backstory, maybe in one of those novels being released?
TBH, some parts of it almost sounded like a less gory version of Berserk. (As for Berserk itself, I read a little, but found it too bleak, plus with the creator now passed, it may never wrap up properly.) From what I remember, it was something to do with Yangchen pissing off the spirits when she was Avatar when bringing that unprecedented peace to the world, so the spirits took it out on Kuruk, and he in turn put on a carefree facade while coping with alcohol and women. Definitely not something I'd expect from the Avatar franchise. A bit too grimdark. I doubt some of that would make it onto the screen, especially if they only focus on him as a kid, but I haven't had the chance to find out more yet.
After hearing almost nothing for so many years, now it seems like we're getting a flood of content from Avatar Studios. I just hope they don't franchise this to death like so many other properties. I love Avatar and I'd hate to see it go in that direction. But if they can keep up the quality, I'll keep watching.
I was only trying to avoid bumping the thread with what I saw as a pointless comment. I also didn't realize how slow the board is. And I though people were done counting sage as a "downvote" or anything negative, but you guys must be oldschool. I'll use nokosage in the future.
To try to get back to discussing the shows, if anyone's actually interested in that, I though the way LoK handled the spirits vs the original series wasn't that great, but still had its moments. The Fog of Lost Souls was suitably creepy, for one thing. And in Seven Havens, the Anomaly is interesting, but it isn't even clear if it's actually a spirit or something else at this point.
