ITT: we discuss the opening sequneces/intros to cartoon. The good, the bad and the ugly.
Give ratings and analysis. Disagree with idiots. Post webms. Whatever.
Warning: opinions will appear in this thread
Opening the thread with a strong one: >not just a lazy compilation of scenes from episodes >high replay value >great background tune >not obnoxiously long >succinctly yet sufficiently introduces core characters and themes (assuming you are already familiar with the Grim Reaper) >actually has VFX
First off, everything except the title card is a bunch of random shots from from the pilot episode. And they kept same intro that all the way throughout the series, with the only change being that they removed John K's credit at the end.
The music is alright, but apart from showing a little bit of Ren's personality, all the opening sequence does is convey 'wacky cartoon shenanigans' (which, to be fair, is what the show is about) but for a 40+ second intro, it doesn't do much to introduce the show at all.
Being that I love Camp Camp so much, I'm kind of a sucker for it's intro. It's fast, upbeat, catchy, that ending bit is very impressive with David rattling off that list of activities so quickly, and it gets you acquainted with each of the main 4 character's personalities (which personally I think the first episode does better, and the theme song doesn't even show up in that one, but I digress).
The Amazing World of Gumball is an interesting intro... it's visually high quality and the music and video give a decent representation of the atmosphere and general themes of season 1, but it does little to introduce any characters. Only lasting 20 seconds is a plus, in this case. Certainly has replay value. Would probably be great paired with drugs.
I think ATHF was a letdown of an intro, kind of just irrelevant, doesn't even introduce the personalities. I skip it usually. Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law is a solid intro, as far as the experience goes. It doesn't introduce too much but the title really says it all.
Wasn't it in the original Japanese version the sort of generic red ranger japanese dude was the 'main character' but for the western version they retooled it so it was more the cool dude with the sword?
>>437617 So there's all these examples of Japanese shows being taken by Americans and remade into new shows using their footage, like Power Rangers, but does that ever happen the other way around? Have you get footage from an American show used to make a completely different story in Japan.
>>438736 In Batman the Animated series they were desperate to get around the censors and have people get killed when they could. That's why they had Clayface melt away. They talk about it directly in some commentary or interview.
>>438816 It was so crazy back in the day for cartoons where everyone had laser guns, even random beat cops, because that made things ok censor-wise. They also had terrible aim so it was more like a rave light show than a firefight.
>>438692 And talking about the Spider-Man cartoon when Blade showed up they didn't even let him have a sword, instead he had some sort of vampire slaying lightsaber instead.
>>439238 This might be the dumbest thing you've said yet. Its a ponzi scheme that is also artificially driving up the cost of the resources they use for it like computer parts, meaning it is negatively affecting even people who aren't dumb enough to fall for it.
Animation is better for sci-fi than live-action as a general overall statement. Its easier to draw bizarre and non-human forms of alien life than to physically portray them, which is why Star Trek is known for just slapping some makeup on a dude's forehead to portray alien races.
Further proof, the reboot movies actually had the catgirl species that makes up one of the officers in the cartoon show up in them as some chicks Kirk fucks, but said halfassed girls look about the level of shitty cosplayers
>>439317 That may be true for Star Trek, but if you want to have a long running sci-fi show, you will most likely have something heavily dialogue based, and then live action is simply cheaper, MUCH cheaper.
Forgettable song, random clips strung together for visuals. The Street Sharks were pretty low-effort in terms of "team of (mutant) animal dudes who are radical" concepts put out to chase the cliche. Though suppose at least in terms of design they were more monstrous looking than other examples.
>>441241 Back in the day it was used to catch your eye while changing channels. Now they are less important, BUT having a cool opening is always better than not having one. Going for no opening is almost always a cost issue.
>>441964 Old cartoons were on TV, and the intro had to convince you to watch. New cartoons are on THE INTERNETS, and you already know what the show is about because you looked up the premise and people's reactions. You haven't changed, the world did.
>>442306 Yeah readily 'member that show, example of a good cartoon spinoff for a non-kids movie (remember the Ace Venture cartoon at least being decent as well). Seconding appreciation for the intro song.
>>443929 >Was the Alien franchise meant to get a cartoon as well? With all the crap during the development of Alien 3, I would not be surprised if a cartoon was on the cards. Robocop was dumbed down to that level right around that time too.
The Samurai Jack intro is something of a masterpiece, it neatly explains the premise via the quality acted voiceover by the primary antagonist before cutting to the catchy intro song and displaying the distinctive artsy style of action you can expect to see going forward into the episodes.
But growing up I've started to hate DeeDee, she's a fucking bitch. Its alot like how my feelings developed in regards to Jerry in Tom & Jerry (fucking vermin invading human homes, the cat is just doing its job)
>>446976 >astronomically high purity standards ...like fitting the common definition.
Imperfect/general rhymes are cool and fun, and a long standing poetry technique, but I see no point in pretending they're what joe blow means when they say 'rhyming'. Well, apart from trolling people who take it far too seriously, that's a good reason.
Samurai Pizza Cats Intro Why was the west so obsessed with taking Japanese stuff and not only redubbing it but at times taking existing footage and reshooting new material around it or meshing multiple shows together into one thing so the plots were completely changed?
>>449785 Animation is expensive. It is much MUCH cheaper to pay the writers and editors to transform something existing into something you believe american children will like better. Obsessed with potential profits more like.
Its clearly inspired by the Super Mario World videogame where the previous animation was more Super Mario Bros 2, hence Yoshi being here now instead of Toad. But why did they decide to add a population of random cavemen to the cast? There was never really a hint of things being prehistoric in Super Mario World (the game).
>>450346 There's nothing more terrible than the plot of the MK games, they used literal time-travel retcon reboots for multiple games in a row to try and unfuck the series plot and only managed to make things worse.
I hate when series, especially common with comicbook universes, don't bother to make use of the storytelling potential of the existing universe (or even whole single GALAXY) their setting takes place in and rush straight to OMG MULTIVERSE AT THREAT over and over again.
Its just so shallow, lazy and devalues everything that exists.