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Better way to handle that is that Ms. Bellum going on four year vaction so the Mayor thinks and she's actually been elected president.

Joke being nothing really exists beyond Townsville.

She leaves behind some kinda Robobellum that is proficient for running the city but keeps malfunctioning to put the Mayor in dangerous situations.

The show would vastly benefit from the townspeople not looking like the unholy spawn of Clarence and GoAnimate.

>>242358
that would take effort, least more than those that are on it are willing to put out right now.

>>242360
I just get cheesed when just a bit more effort can result in a better product. I'll give some of these a bit more time as they adjust like the VAs since they are new and maybe the writers just need a bit more to pull away from old ideas and understand this show. Animation though. I wonder what went wrong.

>>242360
The worst thing about being in denial, is the eventual acceptance you will have to do.

>>242353
The reboot really is dogshit.

>>242363

>The people making it clearly have love for the series

They wrote Miss Bellum—a capable and intelligent woman who was arguably the Powerpuff Girls’ most important adult female role model—out of the show for…reasons, so they can’t have that much love for the series.

>there isn't anything wrong with thinking that it'll get better as time goes on

If I were you, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

>>242365
Do you think writing her out of the show was the choice of the writing staff or some executive appointed PR focus group?

Because that sort of decision seems like something that would come from the latter.

>>242366

Does it matter? The staff still went along with the decision even though it’s entirely possible to prove Miss Bellum was more than her hourglass figure. (I feel confident in saying she was cut because of her appearance and not because of her actual character.) What in the hell would be so wrong with giving the Powerpuffs an adult female role model who's both attractive and intelligent, anyway?

>>242370
I'm just saying if it wasn't their call then they'd probably have to either go along with it or walk, I doubt any of the writers on this project have a lot of sway.

As for why they cut Bellum, it's probably more because she was the mayor's assistant instead of mayor despite being more competent than him, which would acknowledge the whole glass ceiling thing and 'show girls they can only get so far' or some such bs. I think it's stupid and frankly actually anti-feminist to sweep shit like that under the rug and just pretend it never happens, but that's modern progressivism in media for you. That's the only reason I can think of why they'd cut her anyway. There was also the implication she was sleeping with the mayor for bonuses in the original show, but that would be easy enough to remove from the reboot without drastically changing her.

Honestly I'm not trying to defend the show or the writers or anything, I haven't seen this reboot and I don't plan to because frankly it just doesn't interest me. But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if there's behind the scenes reasons they cut Bellum rather than just what they're saying.

>>242373

>As for why they cut Bellum, it's probably more because she was the mayor's assistant instead of mayor despite being more competent than him, which would acknowledge the whole glass ceiling thing and 'show girls they can only get so far' or some such bs.

And they couldn't have made her mayor…why, exactly? I mean, it’s not as if they couldn’t use her newfound responsibilities as mayor to maker her unable to solve every last little problem on her own. (They could’ve even bumped the Mayor up to President so he’d still get to have appearances now and then. But I suppose that wouldn’t be as “funny”.)

>>242372

>What's wrong with trying to be positive?

Nothing wrong with positivity in general, but blind positivity/optimism is stupid. Best to temper your expectations so the disappointment doesn’t crush you.

>>242353
I was actually defending this flaming pile of shit until I read this.

How utterly fucking disgusting, my hate for this show went from zero to infinite.

Miss Bellum is literally my favorite part of Power Puff Girls.

>>242380
Removing Miss Bellum is not dumb, it's unacceptable.

>>242353
>who for some reason never rose above being the assistant to the generally clueless mayour of Townsville
An entire episode revovled around the fact that the Mayor almost always went unopposed, and that even Fuzzy Lumpkin could beat him by just declaring his candidacy and then doing nothing.
http://powerpuffgirls.wikia.com/wiki/Impeach_Fuzz
I'm pretty sure even the Ameoba Boys could be president if they really wanted to. And that's ignoring that incompetent bosses with competent assistants is practically its own entire branch of humor. As well as that being mayor would get her kidnapped even more often. Actually:

>Feme Fatale realises that she can become mayor, does so based entirely on a "I'm not Mayor" platform.
>Immediatly has all men put in iron cages, except for Talking Dog and Mojo who get put in pet carriers.
>After warding off girls with legal threats: "Miss Bellum, why did you never think of being Mayor yourself?"
>"Actually, I just figured I get kidnapped by giant enough as it is without being the city's biggest figurehead."
>"Getting wha-" Is suddenly grabbed through the window by a giant monster and taken out to sea.
>AND SO ONCE AGAIN THE DAY IS SAVED, THANKS TO THE GIANT BLOWFISH MONSTER.

If anything Bellum should run for mayor of the Town of Citiesville, with Princess Morebuck opposing.

Little Tokyo Townsville, ouch we'll likely never see that setting again.

Also I do miss that ending tag and the ways it would be lampooned occasionally.

>kids wanting TTG to cross over with the new Powerpuff Girls.

>Raven mocks New Bubbles using the old Bubbles voice.

I'd watch it.

>>242376

>If it doesn't happen, oh well. At least I'd be able to enjoy what it has to offer.

Wait, so…if the show doesn’t get better, you’re still going to watch it? God, and I thought WWE fans were nuts.

>>242378

>from what I've seen of the people doing it, they do care and are trying with what they have, which I have to believe amounts to something

They should try harder.

>A part of me still thinks that there can be plenty of fun and interesting things about this, and even with what's out now I honestly can find some good in it, and I'd rather hold on to that than to get angry that it's not the same as the old show

I'm not mad about it not being the exact same as the old show. I knew that was never going to happen. But removing Miss Bellum was an unspeakably dumb move, and the premiere episodes didn't impress me at all (plus there’s something a little…off about using the plot of The Hangover for an episode of a kids show). Part of the reason CN greenlit this show was to capitalize on nostalgia—but I'd rather see the old series than watch the new one, which probably isn’t the reaction CN had in mind.

>>242351
I guess it's not too hard... unless you're like... you know... from Deviantart and/ or a porn artist.

I wonder if their are any kids that watched this new show, wanted more, watching the old show in Netflix, liked it better and be came the smallest Cartoon hippers.

http://jitterbugjive.tumblr.com/post/142485553459/jitterbugjive-jitterbugjive-jitterbugjive
Oh dear.

>>242400

Watching someone absolutely wig out about a stupid story about a horse that wants to be a unicorn is pretty entertaining but also sad.

>>242403
Its... got quite a few unfortunate implications, there. Its not as cartoonish as you might think.

Reminds me of the Chris Savino era Dexter's Lab cartoons.

>>242405
Holu fug, they do look like cardboard cutouts.

Can't really hide it when no background behind them. Gotta add some thickness to them if they are going to be free standing or "shot" at an angle.

http://themanwithnobats.tumblr.com/post/142884579582/

Fucking hell, it keeps getting worse.

>>242451
What's the problem?

>>242454
Anybody still jumping up to defend this?

The Unicorn incident apparently broke their defenses with the SJWs.

Aside from ranting that /co/ does against all that is Tumblr someone did make a salient point. A good amount of the shows problems are tied to them treating this as on the job training for those working on the show.

A whole ton of new people on this one instead of just a few mixed with veterans like other times.

>>242456

Given the quality of the show, this theory makes sense.

>>242451
This, right here.

Fuck the original VAs being gone, fuck Miss Bellum being written off, fuck the Unicorn incident, fuck the shitty animation. This, right here, is the single most idiotic thing CN could've possibly done to this show, and they fucking did it.

I didn't even get this mad over Teen Titans Go!. But this, holy fucking shit. I hope tumblr organizes a massive backlash against this.

>>242472
Eh, I still kind of like it.
Not blind to the complaints or whatever, but it still seems harmless enough, or at least, I don't find it as nearly as big a deal as others do.

>>242476

Problem right now is that the vast majority of those on the show are green. A prominent show really isn't the place for on the job training.

>>242488
please tell me that isn't an offical animatic of the storyboard. If that is then the hat alone shows me people are on the wrong teams.

>>242489
http://segasmastersystem.tumblr.com/post/143028324179/ppg-actually-has-some-really-talented-storyboard
Prepare to cry.

>>242491
this is literally the case with every single show.

>>242492
Very true. Just in this case the step down in quality is quite larger than others. Show could do mixing in some of the story board artist to work in the later areas of the animation. Or at least more collaboration.

>>242491
I have never watched powerpuff girls, and that makes me sad.

>>242493
>Show could do mixing in some of the story board artist to work in the later areas of the animation.
>I don't know how making an animated series works.

>>242497
Oh I do, I'm just grasping at straws because this steep decline has to be fixable somehow.

http://rubyrubyrubyredux.tumblr.com/post/143151664384/the-prolefeed-atheistjapanesesocialist
Oh goddamnit.

>>242512

I don’t think they could actually make the reboot worse if they actually tried. (I mean, them trying to make it bad would at least imply there’s some effort going into things.)

I watched three episodes. The man-boy episode sucked, but the Monster Island episode and the one with the Roller Derby girls seemed like they would've been believable as episodes in the original, differences in voicing and character design aside.

http://themanwithnobats.tumblr.com/post/143268695097/

Jesus fucking Christ.

https://gracekraft.tumblr.com/post/143277120129/bee-and-barb-akron-squirrel-katiegeewhiz

>>242543

You can't even really blame the storyboarders. They’re doing the best they can with the material they’re given, and the animators are fucking it all up with stupid bullshit shortcuts and dumb mistakes like Professor's chestbeard. And then there’s the fact that the material they’re given from the writers isn’t exactly, y’know, all that great to begin with. (One episode has the PPG sneaking by the Professor's door late at night while he's asleep. And when I say “sneaking by”, I mean they’re doing it on their tiptoes. When they can, y’know, float in midair without making a sound.)

>>242544
>I mean they’re doing it on their tiptoes. When they can, y’know, float in midair without making a sound.
Tbf, that totally sounds like a gag they'd do in the original series.

http://musical-gopher.tumblr.com/post/143234320486/honestly-i-can-hardly-tell-their-voices-apart
This should NEVER have happened.


>>242545
Actually, I agree with you anon. The tippy toe gag is a classic.

http://breastforce.tumblr.com/post/143330466935/
Jesus christ where are they outsourcing this too?

Well they send it tor their regular Finisher. Same one that did the Ben 10 AF UA Generator Rex shows along with Megas XLR season 1 and numerous others. Must not be putting out much of a budget that way for this much to slip through.


>Sunmin Image Pictures Co. [kr]
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0382055/?ref_=ttco_co_2

>>242546
>http://musical-gopher.tumblr.com/post/143234320486/honestly-i-can-hardly-tell-their-voices-apart

THIS IS SOMETHING I'D EXPECT OUT OF A CHEESY 80s CARTOON

HOLY FUCK

>>242562
What happened here?

>>242562
What the fuck? I mean, WHAT the FUCK?

This isn't even funny anymore. I'm...I'm disgusted. This is shit you fix before your first test run. It's an autobalance filter put over the whole scene. This is the worst show CN's had since Problem Solverz.

>>242567

Its on Netflix so yea.

Its kinda funny. Maybe that was the whole plan. Create a show that's so crappy, that old and new fans will re-watch the original.

Do we know how it's doing rating wise yet?

>>242575
Who's the executive producer? All the directors check out having Nickelodeon Pedigree from bofh the 90s and 00s. Their Supervising Director comes from Simpsons working on a few of the later season episodes but she's seems good.

Is it just are just not giving their finishing shop any money?

>>242577
Executive Producers, plural. Nick Jennings and Bob Boyle.

I just saw an ad for it on youtube and the swedish dub also sucks!

>>242580
Ah okay both of those were listed as just directors on Wiki.

//youtube.com/watch?v=urPIHJzhsLU

I miss bubblegum pop and Don LaFontaine.

>>242566
And her transformation is, just a giant spider. Nothing interesting just a spider.

>>242599
I truly believe this movie was like... awesome.

>>242609
>The clouds when the spider bursts out of the building
Yes.
Fixed.

>>242609
This scene needs more old as shit memes.

>>242635
>The Yo-Yogi of 2010's
Damn it Pan, Yo-Yogi wasn't that terrible.
Yeah, dated as fuck and full of the usual "baby version" clichés, but there's worse out there.

I can't wait for Pan to rip this show a new one next week.

>>242635
>Powerpuff Girls is almost 20 years old
Fuck I feel old now.

>>242642
Try living for a thousand years.

You will forget about your age, and time in general, and learn to simply enjoy life regardless of when or go insane.

>>242643
Oh the future is going to be fun. Heck I do most of that already since if I remeber years or age it triggers depression episodes.

>>242650
People who try to like everything may be worse than those who actively try to hate everything.

>>242654
I thought he had some decent points, but then they get outdone by things he just goes full retard on.

>>242650
>adaptation
>pronounced "adapshun."

Arguing about PPG while being way too old to even watch is embarrassing anyway, no matter the quality.

>>242665
One's never too old to watch a cartoon.

>>242665
Your argument is dumb and your face is stupid.

I really appreciate these Japanese dub webms. I also wouldn't mind other language dub webms.

I rewatched Powerpuff Girls a few years ago, but there are a bunch of screenshots of it I've been seeing on /co/ that I don't remember happening. Guess it's time for another rewatch.

>>242670
Apparently the Spanish dub is atrocious.

>>242682
Bubbles sounds too cute. Also I can't believe the Japanese voices sound more like the original ones than the rebooted English ones.

>>242686
//youtube.com/watch?v=zx2miv3wsOI

>>242687
I'm betting the Japanese dub brought back thier original cast.

>>242710
>idw
...Really? WB'd rather shop that out than using DC?

>>242711

Would you trust DC with the PPG?

>>242713
Touché.

But it does reveal what WB considers is worth their dedicated comics division. If it weren't for the Hannah Barbera stuff they're doing, I'd say it feels DC's relegated to being the IP and Superheroes Ghetto.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Dr5ZCTGjwxE
Buttercup kisses a girl

>>242894
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>>242894
I wonder if this will eventually lead to a logical conclusion of some sort.

>>242894
The writing and voice acting are still as mediocre as ever, I see. At least I didn't notice any obviously terrible animation errors.

>>242898
I'd say the voice acting has gotten worse, especially with Buttercup.

Jesus that was awful.

>>242993
*sigh* some of that is constructive criticism/feedback. Craig's comments are basically that "this is why we didn't do profile shots." and such.

Yea sure some of it is people shitting because not muh or they feel it's their duty to be an asshole. But of you just ignore those that point out production problems and things they note are bad because they need to be improved on. It's not going to get any better.

>>242996

Seriously, the people who ranted about Miss Bellum not being in the show had valid criticisms of the decision to remove her. While you could argue that it comes off as “NOT MUH PPG”, at least they had a point about why Miss Bellum worked as a character and deserved a spot on the reboot.

>>242996
She's just a voice actress. Any significant changes to the show wouldn't come from here in the first place. And considering she's getting shit on for things she's not personally involved with, I think her attitude is justified here.

>>242992
>>242994
I think it's sad that they add pictures of old people during a rap video and people still think they're being serious.

>>243028
If Raven doesn't mock Bubbles then its a massive failure.

>>243029
Awful vs Awful. Whoever wins, we lose.

>>243030

Eh TTG takes the shit out of itself and has some legitimate awesome moments that I can't dislike it totally.

//youtube.com/watch?v=lSLXS0bjSCs

//youtube.com/watch?v=GM8tRdFaWS0

PPG, doesn't even seem like they are trying.

>>243030
Why don't you like Teen Titans Go?

>>243039
Not that anon. More or less this.
//youtube.com/watch?v=eFkT8yby7Zk

>>243058

Yes, the crew could find a way to improve the show going forward and make something worth watching. But I wouldn’t hold out hope for that possibility.

>>243227
Looks to me like a perspective/angle thing since the skirts cut off at the point Blossom's black line shows up.

Teen Titans Go! and Nu Power Puff Girls are both utterly terrible, especially when they cross over

>>243436
The Cartoon Cartoon comics have a reader base to begin with?

>>243678
I don't think so, I just thought that with how bad the show is there'd be at least a few people to see if it ran over into the comics.

>Jake "Chemical X Means Ready for Sex" Goldman
>Jake "If she's older than 9, I must decline" Goldman
>Jake "Touch my one eyed snake" Goldman
>Jake "Ravioli ravioli cum in the ginger loli" Goldman
>Jake "When they start twerking I get to jerking" Goldman
>Jake "Move over professor, I'm gonna undress her" Goldman
>Jake "Friends with Dan" Goldman
>Jake "Blossom: Cum in her and then bleed her" Goldman
>Jake "Sugar, spice, and everything nice (in my van)" Goldman
>Jake "Fuck Drumpf like a Powerpuff" Goldman
>Jake "I feel funny when she's all nubby" Goldman
>Jake "Professor Ubonium accidentally added a extra ingredient to the concoction, Chemical SEX" Goldman

I am morbidly curious how this debacle will effect nuPPG, if it does at all.

>>246306

>Jake "Kindergarten makes my penis harden" Goldman

>>246306

>Jake "Semen-Stuff the Powerpuff" Goldman

>>246306
Is it confirmed he actually worked for those eps and it wasn't some huckster editing the wiki for le meme potential?

>>246322
The staff is on record as saying that he didn't come up with the character or write anything for them, they just based his appearance on him because they thought it would be fun and then got him to voice the character. But far be it from reality to interfere with an internet circle jerk.

>>246323
It is amazing how quickly people will take a statement from those who stand to fail from an event at face value.

He HAS written for the episodes featuring the character he voices, he HAS acted like a creepy fanboy in the past when asked who his favorite Powerpuff girl is.
He also wrote for the infamous twerking episode.

Really the whole inclusion of this re-occurring highschool-aged love interest for Blossom based on the skeevy writer that has a Blossom fetish is as bad as their nonsensical comments on Miss Bellum, the character shouldn't have existed in the first place even for a show as terrible as NuPPG.

>>246324
>It is amazing how quickly people will take a statement from those who stand to fail from an event at face value.

Oh don't act like some holy bastion of skepticism. If this weren't a show you already had a hate-boner for you wouldn't give a shit about this.

>>246329
(different anon)
It's not like the hateboner is unjustified.

>>246329
>If this weren't a show you already had a hate-boner for you wouldn't give a shit about this.
(another different anon)
I've never watched the original nor the new powerpuff girls, I simply saw that pic when looking down the threads here.

That behavior is fucking embarrassing and pitiful, and fully deserves these reactions. It just happens to rub it in more that it was in a show people seriously hate. If this happened to any other show, I'm certain people would still give a shit that an adult writer self-inserted as the crush of a child.

>>246336
Again though, according to the people who work on the show, that's not what happened. That's just how people who want to take down this show for "ruining their childhoods" have painted it because it fits into a narrative that justifies their hate.

>>246331
Agreed, it's not a good show. But it's not worth creating another pizzagate over it.

>>246339
You are the one in this thread creating a narrative to whine about these narratives of others.

This bad/stupid thing did happen thus these negative reactions it is getting is justified.

Why are you feeling the need to try to set yourself apart from "the crowd" like that by brushing it off and disdaining anyone who happens to refer to it.

>>246340
>Why are you feeling the need to try to set yourself apart from "the crowd" like that by brushing it off and disdaining anyone who happens to refer to it.

Because I consider internet mob justice, especially internet mob justice originating from 4chan and 4chan-adjacent communities which tend to be motivated by cynical and hateful interests, to be a pet peeve.

>>246347
>hateful
I have yet to meet a person who uses that word NOT to show off how "good" and nice and superior they are to everyone else.

>>246349
Sounds like you're a person who gets called hateful a lot.

>>246347
4chan justice has actually done a fair bit of good in the world, uncovering animal abusers and child molesters and reporting them to the police.

Its not a particularly negative thing in itself.

Jesus christ...

//youtube.com/watch?v=-bG_PZwDhxE

Has anyone defending this whole boondoggle actually sat down and watched it?

>>246370

>Jared “Stuff the ’Puff Muff” Shapiro

>>246485
That reminds me of a series of movies, with the sequel happening roughly a year later, but the main characters not aging visually, because of the original designs being so memorable.

>>246442

Why has God forsaken us?

>>246486
Unless they are young children, it's understandable for characters to not visually age that much of a few year.

But not only were the Powerpuff Girls very young from the start, but the reboot takes them from kindergarten to 3rd or 4th grade. And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the other kids from Pokey Oaks appear in new school.

Memorable character designs don't works so well if the newer worlds they are apart of clash with it, narratively.

>>246504
Have they addressed the possibility that Chemical X-birthed homunculi like the girls aren't capable of growth or aging anyway? We already know their appearance is explicitly weird to other characters in-universe, so the possibility exists that their lack of aging is also an in-universe oddity.

That's not so much meant to defend the new series (of which the best episodes are about as good as a mediocre episode of the old show) but meant to explore an interesting possibility that they would be able to point to as an explanation if they needed to.