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Take a BIG whiff of that corporate DESPERATION.


MARVEL COMICS

48.17%

DC ENTERTAINMENT


24.02%


IMAGE COMICS


10.99%

I knew something must have gone bad for DC to be DESPERATE like this, I didn't think it was this fuckin' bad.

The New 52 has hurt them in the long run, hurt them really, really bad, how bad? Bad enough the could lose there slot in the "big 2" if sales continue to drop as radically as they have in the last 5 years.

Pre-new52 there was a fanbase that lead to consistent sales that rarely ever flagged below a certain point, but after the New-52 and the realization it was a universe of fucking nothing you care about DC has realized they sawed the bottom out of the boat.

Sales are lagging farther behind than they ever have, "DC Rebirth" is a DESPERATE ploy to get fans back "HEY REMEMBER TED KORD!?!.....anybody? HELLO * echoing back* hello hello hello..."

http://www.newsarama.com/27844-the-walking-dead-rises-marvel-doubles-up-dc-in-down-comic-book-sales-month-to-start-2016.html
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Holy shit, can we have an evolution chart? what are the chances "Red Tool"s real name is Blade Billson.
No.241761
Anonymous
>>241759
We're going full circle.
No.241762
Anonymous
>>241759
DC has had a Deadpool expy before, actually--it was in a Batman/Superman annual, and he was explicitly a version of Deathstroke from an alternate reality whose personality just happened to match Deadpool's, and he said he went by a different name that started with "Dea-" but was stopped before he could finish it.
http://www.newsarama.com/28138-dc-s-rebirth-gets-its-own-previews-catalogue.html

"With DC rebirth we want to make as many poor decisions straight out of the gate as possible, I mean it's months away and we've already started fucking up!"
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Lo and all the hardfought "diversity" earned by completely destroying your long term sales was washed clean and white as every character who currently has a Rebirth title.

Just HARD BOOT THIS UNIVERSE, SET THAT SHIT STRAIGHT TO "REAGAN'S IDEALISED 1950'S" BECAUSE THIS MINORITY SHIT IS KILLING IN US!!! (yes DC, that's the right take away here, you fucking numbnuts.)

Now, as someone who has been BEYOND critical of the New52 I am amazed that you could shoot so hard in the exact wrong direction.

June:

Rebirth Specials:
AQUAMAN REBIRTH #1
BATMAN REBIRTH #1
THE FLASH REBIRTH #1
GREEN ARROW REBIRTH #1
GREEN LANTERNS REBIRTH #1
SUPERMAN REBIRTH #1
TITANS REBIRTH #1
WONDER WOMAN REBIRTH #1

New #1 Issues (Shipping twice monthly):
AQUAMAN #1
BATMAN #1
THE FLASH #1
GREEN ARROW #1
GREEN LANTERNS #1
SUPERMAN #1
WONDER WOMAN #1

New Issues (Shipping twice monthly):
ACTION COMICS #957
DETECTIVE COMICS #934

July

Rebirth Specials:
BATGIRL & THE BIRDS OF PREY REBIRTH #1
HAL JORDAN & THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS REBIRTH #1
THE HELLBLAZER REBIRTH #1
JUSTICE LEAGUE REBIRTH #1
NIGHTWING REBIRTH #1
RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS REBIRTH #1

New #1 Issues (Shipping twice monthly):
HAL JORDAN & THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #1
JUSTICE LEAGUE #1
NIGHTWING #1

New #1 Issues (Shipping monthly):
BATGIRL #1
BATGIRL & THE BIRDS OF PREY #1
THE HELLBLAZER #1
RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS #1
THE SUPER-MAN #1
TITANS #1

Fall

Rebirth Specials:
BATMAN BEYOND REBIRTH #1
BLUE BEETLE REBIRTH #1
CYBORG REBIRTH #1
DEATHSTROKE REBIRTH #1
EARTH 2 REBIRTH #1
SUICIDE SQUAD REBIRTH #1
SUPERGIRL REBIRTH #1
TEEN TITANS REBIRTH #1
TRINITY REBIRTH #1

New #1 Issues (Shipping twice monthly):
CYBORG #1
DEATHSTROKE #1
HARLEY QUINN #1
JUSTICE LEAGUE AMERICA #1
SUICIDE SQUAD #1

New #1 Issues (Shipping monthly):
BATMAN BEYOND #1
BLUE BEETLE #1
EARTH 2 #1
GOTHAM ACADEMY: NEXT SEMESTER #1
SUPERGIRL #1
SUPERWOMAN #1
SUPER SONS #1
TEEN TITANS #1
TRINITY #1
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>>241768
http://panels.net/2016/02/22/dc-rebirths-gatekeeps-disappoints/

For context on that quote.
No.241770
Anonymous
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>>241759
>red and black
>common worker's tools
>star on Harley's leg
>general disregard towards government authority
I wonder if this is intentional, or just a coincidence that might not get capitalized on.
No.241786
Anonymous
Replies:>>241789
>>241768
>>241769
More SJWs whining about how DC isn't making every comic the Burger King Kids Club. Yawn.
>>241786
No, see it's the opposite, it's about DC not being able to have it both ways, you can't chase your old "white, cis, male" fanbase off with pitchforks and fire then turn around and chase your new "inclusive, diverse, LGBT" fanbase with pitchforks and fire and expect the old ones to come slinking back.

It's clear management feels untouchable and are disconnected in the extreme, management, in particular Dan Didio, Jim Lee and most of all Eddie Berganza the rapist need to go, they are a blood clot in DC's brain.

Until that happens DC is gonna continue hemorrhaging fans, that's what the desperation of Rebirth is, they have no idea who they are or who their fanbase is.
No.241791
Anonymous
Replies:>>241792
>>241746
Didn't marvel do the same thing with the killing off their multiverse and a new status quo etc etc?

I'm mostly disgusted by both of the "Big 2" and have began to feel saddened that people still give them so much money for their often terrible books.
>>241791
Marvel is actively being more disgusting than DC when it comes to comics, but the key difference is that they can afford it, they have and actual casual audience thanks to the movies that they can draw on, they can afford to experiment and fuck with things.

DC is very poorly trying to copy them, Rebirth is literally the same business model copy pasted from Marvel's All-New All Different after DCyou catastrophically failed, except instead of being "All-New, All-Different" it's "Same old, Same old" as DC wants to put the floor back in the screen door submarine that is the New52, DC has nothing, not a casual audience, no more diehards after the new52, and Rebirth is some bizarre appeal to new fans that they are putting everything back the way it was when they hated them. They are losing fans faster than before the new52 and trying to copy Marvel is the worst possible idea.

Marvel is greedy and smart, DC is greedy and FUCKING UNIMAGINABLY CATASTROPHICALLY FUCKING STUPID.
No.241831
T4 was here
A reminder.
http://mscottwrites.tumblr.com/post/138863039566/ihate4kids-uchidachi-silver-tongues-blog
No.241833
Anonymous
>>241831
Makes me think of a scene that could redeem BvS. Clark just showing up at wherever Bruce is after he learns all there is about the tormented and scared boy attempting to keep what his family worked to save form rotting away completely.

And just talking.
No.241835
T4 was here
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>>241831
Here's the source btw.
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superman/Shazam:_First_Thunder_Vol_1_4
Also remember then Capten Marvel was fun...

Guess we wont see him in the (non-animated)movies anytime some.
No.241836
T4 was here
>>241835
But then I rememberd that THE ROCK was cast as Black Adam so DURP, I really need to go to bed now.
No.241839
Anonymous
>>241835
Honestly I'm not even sure why they need to make a movie for each of the Justice League biggies aside from Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Cyborg.
At least Marvel Studios has the good sense to pick the heroes for their movies in such a way that they can make each one a different genre and have a superficial sense of variety to them.
But in DC's case it sounds like they're just deciding to give each on of their frontliners a movie whether or not it'll hasten superhero fatigue and cause the whole bubble to collapse in on themselves.
http://www.newsarama.com/28349-justice-league-50-delayed-until-may.html

Nothing says DC editorial fuckery like delaying a series to rewrite it for an event so poorly thought out and desperate it comes out in 2 months.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/25/the-race-to-finish-the-dc-rebirth-presentation-for-wondercon-tomorrow-morning/

"We’ve already looked at how Scott Snyder‘s next Batman run has moved from Detective Comics Rebirth to another monthly Batman title to come. Also how we’ve heard Marguerite Bennett found her approved Wonder Woman Rebirth stories dropped in favour of Greg Rucka after her editor left.

...To the extent that some creators are finding themselves uninvited by DC to WonderCon – including two who were on the way to the airport – as they no longer have a book to be announced."

Is there any hope Rebirth won't be a pile of shit? No, no there is not.

Why does anyone even try to work DC at this point, the last five years have been torture for their employees.
No.242191
Anonymous
>>242190
Because everyone else pays minimum wage.
No.242196
T4 was here
Replies:>>242235
/mtv/ may be fucked but atlest we got this.
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No.242206
Anonymous
It might turn out shit, but I will probably pick up Blue Beetle and Birds of Prey. Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes is an idea I have been fond of in the past. It reminds me of that short-lived Earth 42 idea on /co/ in the past. As for BoP, I unironically love Black Canary's new costume, and Huntress' is ok too. Also, Batgirl's current costume has grown on me, even if I prefer Babs as Oracle.

It will probably end up shit.
>>242190
I hate enjoying certain characters and concepts and creators but hating the company's bullshit practices. Seriously, that's disgusting.
No.242234
Anonymous
DC full June 2016 solicitations: http://www.newsarama.com/28585-dc-comics-full-june-2016-solicitations.html

And desustorage must fix the fucking ghostposting system now.
No.242235
Anonymous
>>242196
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This is now the only Justice League movie that matters.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/145056/20160328/superman-is-married-and-has-a-son-in-dc-comics-rebirth.htm

>Clark Kent will be married to none other than Lois Lane. While DC's New 52 reboot had Superman and Wonder Woman hooking up, it looks like this new initiative will have Clark return to his most famous love interest and settle down.

>The world needs a Man of Steel, but can Superman protect the world while raising a super-son with his wife, Lois Lane?

Remember how DC stressed this wasn't going to be a reboot? backpedal motherfuckers, backpedal as hard as you can.
No.242242
Anonymous
> Lois is back
Hurrah!
> son
Fuck!...
No.242249
Anonymous
>>242241
Isn't that the pre-new 52 Clark and Lois though? This doesn’t seem new.
No.242250
Anonymous
>>242241
There's actually going to be three different Supermans, Tiki. Pre-52 Clark w/Lois. 52 Clark w/o Lois. And new Rebirth flavor Chinese Super-Man.
No.242254
T4 was here
https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/6084751.html#cutid1
This is why I am so fucking sick of the Batman/Joker drama.
Not even supernatural stuff can help it so why give a fuck anymore.

Bet if they both died at the same Bat would try to stop Satan Jokers soul to hell or some bullshit.
BAH!
No.242340
Anonymous
http://www.newsarama.com/28744-doom-patrol-leads-new-dc-imprint-by-gerard-way.html
So this is actually happening now.
No.242385
Anonymous
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http://comicbook.com/2016/04/10/young-justice-vs-teen-titans-exclusive-first-look-and-plot-det/

I'm excited, I guess? The JL vs. TT movie was all right.

I mean, it's no Season 3, but at least it'll hopefully tie up all the loose ends from YJ. And the shorter running time should curb a great deal of Weisman's excesses so he'll wind up delivering a sharper product.

How about you guys? Think it'll be good?
No.242389
Anonymous
>>242340
Five years ago if you told me Gerard Way would be an award-winning comic book writer I would've laughed at you. But I'm actually kinda excited for this, especially if he's saying it's going to be inspired by the Morrison run.
No.242394
Anonymous
>>242385
Damn. Fell for it.
No.242399
Anonymous
>>242340
Gerard Way is absolutely perfect for Doom Patrol.
No.242508
T4 was here
Saw a DC comic in a newsrack with swedish text for the first time in years.
And it was an antologi with John Constantine guest staring the Spectre with some other horror stuff like Amarican Vampire.
So I guess capeshit is still dead in sweden when it comes to comics.
No.242509
Jumpman
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/135141-dc-restructures-vertigo-fires-shelly-bond-provokes-naming-of-open-secret-sexual-harasser-in-upper-management.html

Oh boy
No.242510
Anonymous
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>>242509
No.242511
Anonymous
>>242509
... Sigh.
No.242519
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
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>>242509

It's really disgusting that they still have him on staff. Absolutely defies belief.
No.242525
Anonymous
>>242519
What kinda blackmail could be so bad that they're this afraid to fire him?
No.242526
Anonymous
>>242525
Murder, it's the only thing I can think of.
No.242532
Anonymous
>>242525
He has to have some kind of dirt on Didio and Johns or some other higher ups. Or maybe they like him and are keeping him around at the expense of others.
No.242646
Anonymous
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http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/135198-controversy-at-cbr-as-berganza-editorial-runs-on-different-site-more-forum-posts-deleted.html

It's not just DC, Berganza apparently has his dirty mitts stuffed inside a ton of assholes over on CBR, which it's now coming to light is one of the main ways this bullshit has been covered up so long.
No.242647
Anonymous
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the rebirth costumes are actually pretty great, just fix the belt and make the boots red again and I'm happy as a clam.

Wonder Woman's is the best design she's ever had even.

It's like someone actually thought about these designs!
No.242657
Anonymous
>>242646
Talk about the Streisand effect.
Eh, I stopped reading them even before the New 52. And Marvel has gone down the drain too - all the unnecessary character changes, like female Thor or Falcon being the upteenth Captain America (who hasn't been Cap at this point?) - I just watch the animated movies they make - well, that DC makes - and hope some of them at least turn out allright.
"RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS #1"

Oh yeah, because that piece of shit was worth bringing back... when it embodies some of the worst things about the New 52. Does this mean Starfire remains an unemotional slut?
>241836
So? He already played an ancient egyptian king... TWICE. He fits the bill.
Not that you can find many ancient egyptian actors these days, anyway.
>>242385
No, it really wasn't. It was terrible and boring. Full center Damian is why, mostly. But the other members of the Titans were all annoying too. And Trigon was barely there as a plot device even.
Also, dead link, not sure what you are linking. I do wish they brought back Young Justice - only decent DC animation is YEARS.
>>242647
Geez! Poor Clark has NO ELBOWS at all! Seriously! His arms are pure muscle, not leaving place to bend. :D
Also, too blue. Should have left the red boots.
No.242780
Anonymous
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The apology costumes continue while DC can't get it's shit together (unsurprisingly.)

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/135308-dc-still-cant-get-together-announces-delays-for-pre-rebirth-justice-league-books.html
No.242783
Anonymous
>>242780
It's better than that terrible tiny "skirt" ruffle she used to have.
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Anonymous
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>>242780
It's not just the costumes either.
No.242825
Anonymous
>>242824
Ah a nice retro logo. Leagues better than the toiler seat.
No.242826
F-ing
>>242824
slabs

slabs
No.242839
T4 was here
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HA HA HA
No.242840
Anonymous
>>242839
>Booster Gold card
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Anonymous
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>>241746
>Take a BIG whiff of that corporate DESPERATION.

Uh, that's a big damn YUP on that.
Any promise that had is now preeeeetty dubious.
No.242859
Anonymous
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>>242857
Goddamnit NO. NO NO NO.
No.242860
Anonymous
>>242859
>>242857
How could anyone possibly be surprised?
No.242862
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>242857

Jesus fucking Christ, DC. Why would you do this? What makes you think this is a good idea?
No.242863
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/21/dc-universe-rebirth-1-full-spoilers-leak-online

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
No.242874
Anonymous
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>>242863
This is worse than Infinite Crisis, and that was already pretty bad.
No.242877
Anonymous
>>242874
>>242875

As someone who is largely out of touch with DC comics, can you guys tell me what's wrong? I mean, /co/ is just crowing over and over again how this will "finally defeat Marvel" so they seem pretty happy...
No.242878
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
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>>242877

Well, for one thing, they've fucking folded Watchmen into DC continuity.

For another, there are now THREE fucking Jokers running around.
No.242879
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>242877

Aside from the little details like three Jokers and the fractured continuities and such, the Big F’n Deal here is DC dropping the bombshell of Dr. Manhattan having something to do with either the creation or the fracturing of the DC Universe. It both folds Watchmen into the proper DC continuity—something that’s fucking unreal in its own right—and comes off as a desperate move to generate interest in/high sales for Rebirth.
No.242880
Anonymous
>>242879
>>242878

Hmm, I guess I always just assumed that Watchmen took place on one of those multiverse earths so it was always "in continuity... sort of."
No.242881
Anonymous
Replies:>>242882
Please, please, PLEASE do not give Dr. Manhattan the Superboy Prime treatment.
No.242882
Anonymous
>>242881
A thousand times this. I mean, at least as I see it, some people missed the point of stories like the Watchmen and tried aping them in all the wrong ways, but of course any nuance that could be explored there will be glanced over.
No.242883
Anonymous
>>242880
I assumed that too. It's it's own thing, separate from the DCU, but inspired by characters that were folded into the main DCU. I like some things here and I feel there are things that need cleaning up, but I worry about how it will actually turn out. I'm only going to get a few books anyway. Not all of them really interest me.
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Anonymous
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In positive DC Comics news... Future Quest IS pretty f'n baller and you should buy at least a copy of each issue is you're able.

>>242880
Watchmen should be about as continuity adjacent as Y the Last Man or DMZ.
Neither Watchmen nor DC mainline gain anything of value out of a crossover.
No.242885
Anonymous
Replies:>>242886
>>242884
I'm not a collector type so I'll likely only buy one copy if I do. But man, I don't like single issues as a format.
I'll probably come off as whiny but can't I just pre-order the Future Quest paperback?
No.242886
Anonymous
Replies:>>242960
>>242885
>I'll probably come off as whiny but can't I just pre-order the Future Quest paperback?

Because buying single issues helps it so that it isn't just the one paperback.
Low single issue sales are what kill series, and a comic book based on 60s Hanna Barbara adventure cartoons that have been turned into jokes by Adult Swim is not a guaranteed top seller.
No.242902
Anonymous
http://www.newsarama.com/29420-first-look-the-real-titans-rebirth-1-cover-dc-really-wants-you-to-know-this-spoiler.html
I was thrown off a bit, but I really should have seen this coming.
No.242904
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>242908
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/23/why-dc-universe-rebirth-is-a-gutsy-work-of-comics-criticism
No.242908
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
>>242904

What a load of apologist horseshit. Even if we take the interpretation presented at face value, Geoff Johns has been a major creative force at DC for ages. Some of the dumbest, grimmest bullshit they've put out has been his baby. How fucking dare he try to pass the buck onto Moore?
No.242909
Anonymous
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>>242908
Clearly, Moore made him do it.
No.242910
Anonymous
>>242908
>>242909
That's not what I took from this. I agree that Johns is just as guilty. However the dude is right. Too many people tried aping good dark stories and they fucked it all up.
No.242911
Anonymous
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>>242910
Comic book authors have done that on their own. Having Manhattan as a representation of Watchmen take active part in making comics darker is pretty disingenuous.
No.242913
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
>>242910

Johns isn't 'just as guilty', because that implies that Moore is guilty. The only thing Moore is guilty of is being so good at his job that everyone else thought they should try to be him too.

The existence of Watchmen or the Killing Joke isn't a problem. The shitty direction of DC editorial in response to them, though? That's a real problem.
No.242914
Jumpman
>>242913
Bingo. And seeing how DC's management team hasn't changed at all, I doubt Rebirth will succeed where past reboots have failed.
No.242915
Anonymous
>>242911
>>242913
I never said that those stories existing was bad, hence "good stories". They stand the test of time. And yeah, the dude saying "poisoned the well" isn't a good way of stating it. It's not the stories fault's, nor is it the creative teams who spawned them. It's more the people who read them and write grim dark drew because they missed the point. I guess what the point is is that even really good things can inspire bad stories. It doesn't make the stories themselves bad, but they are a source of inspiration for better or worse.

And it brought at least one guy back who was driven off by the new 52.

None of this even guarantees success and given DC's track record, it will probably fail, or at the very least not so as well as they hope.

But yeah, the guy said some stuff I was thinking about for some time.
No.242916
Anonymous
Oh, this will work out well.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/geoff-johns-offers-to-buy-back-dc-universe-rebirth-1-if-fans-arent-satisfied
No.242924
The Sneaky Tiki
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And Lo did I return to find the prophesy fulfilled, Rebirth is even more terrible than I initially predicted.
No.242930
Anonymous
>>242924

I still wager it's going to sell gangbusters. An oversized event comic for $2.99? Fanservice out the ass? Event that's hyped to high heaven for months? I would be really surprised if this WASN'T #1 on the monthly charts.
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Anonymous
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The cause of the current DCU.
No.242953
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
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I can't believe Geoff Johns thinks he's being clever about this.
No.242954
The Sneaky Tiki
>>242953
This is what happens when you give fanboys the keys to the kingdom.
No.242958
MESIAS
This whole thing has been stupid, but enjoyable.
And way better than Captain Hydra.

>>242953
Good riddance!
No.242960
Anonymous
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>>242886
Oh.
Well in that case.

KILL THE FLOPPY FORMAT. KILL. DESTROY. KILL.
>>242960
Don't copy that floppy.
No.243062
Jumpman
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No.243067
T4 was here
If you are only going to read on Batman comic this year, make it this one.
https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/6241226.html#cutid1
No.243092
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
So, what do you guys think the best Superman stories are? I mean, everyone knows All-Star Superman and For the Man Who Has Everything, but what else is there?
No.243093
Anonymous
>>243092
Grounded I've heard is pretty good.
No.243094
Anonymous
>>243093
Are you high? Grounded is a nonsensical story that is entirely out of character for Clark in basically everything it has him do.

It is simply awful.
No.243095
The Sneaky Tiki
>>243093
YOU SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH
No.243096
Anonymous
>>243092
Honestly, I actually liked "whatever happened to the man of tomorrow"
It want perfect, but it really got to the heart of superman.
No.243269
Anonymous
Replies:>>243362
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Is that Space Cabbie in the bottom of the promo?
No.243361
girder
>>243092
Among the Elseworlds, I really like Secret Identity. Kurt Busiek is one of the top Superman writers of all time, in my book.

Speaking of which, there's also a book by Tom De Haven called "It's Superman!", that's a 1930's period piece that's kind of a prequel/backstory to character prior to his debut in Action Comics.
No.243362
Anonymous
Replies:>>243363
>>243269
I fucking hope it is!
No.243363
Anonymous
Replies:>>243365
>>243362
I wonder what other obscure characters will show up.
No.243365
Anonymous
Replies:>>243366
>>243363

From the Background model sheet it looks like we'll get quite a few. I can go for this being little slices of life similar to Brave and the Bold.
No.243366
The Sneaky Tiki
>>243365
I heard they dropped Brave and The Bold for that super failure hard edge Batman cartoon so the company line is that cartoons can't be gritty even if everything else is.

Hence we're getting this.
No.243367
The Sneaky Tiki
BEWARE THE BATMAN! That's the name of that shitshow 3D Batman, God Reboot felt more populated than that shit Gotham.
No.243368
Anonymous
>>243367
Just looked it up, maybe it's because I'm so used to the Timm version but holy shit that Bats looks ugly.
No.243369
Anonymous
Replies:>>243370
>>243367

That's the way of CGI on a tight budget. Not much room to make background assets. It's like the first season of the Nick Ninja Turtles.
No.243370
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>243371
>>243369
bad decision after bad decision.
No.243371
Anonymous
Replies:>>243374
>>243370

I liked where it was going using lesser known rogues from the gallery. But anything DC Nation was doomed from the start. Because if it's an outside property vs a Cartoon Network original or cheap import. Then those latter ones are going to win.
No.243374
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>243378
>>243371
>using lesser known rogues from the gallery

It didn't use them at all, that was the problem, they used the name and the likeness but changed everything good.

Failures one and all top to bottom.

Cancelled after 11 Episodes deservedly so.
No.243378
Anonymous
>>243374
I kind of liked it but yeah, it was the worst Batman cartoon and it didn't use what it had as well as it could have. There are a lot of lesser known characters that could be used, but they need to be done well, the stories have to be good, and the animation has to be good too. I'm just still bummed my favorite Batman story hasn't been adapted yet.

As for DC Nation, I really wish it stood more of a chance as I enjoyed many of the shorts and the shows they aired around. But yeah, that block was doomed in retrospect.
No.243380
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>243387
I love that New 52 Superman was such a cancer they literally just killed him off and replaced him with Pre-52 Superman, everyone else they revised but he'd just become such a cancer they sent him back to his home planet. (being dead.)
No.243381
The Sneaky Tiki
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AND BOY HOWDY, Look at that, I love a DC comic for the first time in what? 3 years?
No.243382
The Sneaky Tiki
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Also Jon being an even younger Kon is great.
No.243387
Anonymous
Replies:>>243388
>>243380
Really? I hate that only twist. I thought New 52 Superman was doing fine and the old one coming back to show him how A Real Superman does things, then immediately doing the same exact stories except also sometimes being a complete pill of a middle aged man showed off how very powerful the notion of angry nostalgic fanboys could be. Superman is now back to being My Dad and I hate it. It's so much regression, and so unnecessary.
No.243388
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>243391
>>243387
I don't know what to tell you if you saw anything beyond Morrison's action comics as progress for the character.
No.243391
Anonymous
Replies:>>243481
>>243388
I thought having Superman be less glorified and less of a fuddy-duddy middle aged depressed man was a good turn for the character, and while only Morrison's Action Comics did that just right the rest I didn't think were any worse than what Superman was doing before the reboot. Killing him off to bring back pre-FP Superman doesn't "fix" anything, it just solidified comics and their fandom as a bunch of fanboys who always cling to the past and good old days.
No.243407
Anonymous
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http://www.newsarama.com/30113-deadman-returns-for-forbidden-love-in-new-gothic-romance-title.html
But does Deadman strip at all?
No.243408
The Sneaky Tiki
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I love these designs.
No.243409
The Sneaky Tiki
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>“The biggest challenge [of 52] was actually, wisely, kept from us by [editor] Steve [Wacker]. EIC Dan Didio, who first championed the concept, hated what we were doing. H-A-T-E-D 52. Would storm up and down the halls telling everyone how much he hated it. And Steve, God bless him, kept us out of the loop on that particular drama. [Editor Michael] Siglain, having less seniority, was less able to do so, and there’s one issue of 52 near the end that was written almost totally by Dan and Keith Giffen because none of the writers could plot it to Dan’s satisfaction. Which was and is his prerogative as EIC, but man, there’s little more demoralizing than taking the ball down to the one-yard line and then being benched by the guy who kept referring to COUNTDOWN as ‘52 done right.'”

Which is why Waid is banned, because Didio is the worst cunt.
No.243410
Anonymous
>>243409
Man, fuck Didio.
No.243411
Anonymous
>>243409
What in the fuuuuck
No.243423
Anonymous
>>243423
What a whiny twat. Being a lesbo I honestly don't have a problem with his art care about his but he needs to grow a thicker skin and stop being such a fucking baby about it all.
No.243424
Anonymous
Replies:>>243426
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/14/frank-cho-walks-off-wonder-woman-after-sixth-cover/

If you ask Rucka to comment on these, he'll block you.
No.243425
Anonymous
Replies:>>243426
>>243423
how did

how did you do that

did you guess your response #?
No.243426
Anonymous
Replies:>>243428
>>243425
I have no idea what happened. I posted in response to>>243424 and somehow ended up above it.
No.243428
Anonymous
>>243426
you didnt

change the number yourself?
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So Cheetah works with... gnolls? Huh?
'cause hyenas are known to get along well with cheetahs in the wild (NOT!)
No.243457
The Sneaky Tiki
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THIS IS A VERY GOOD SIGN FOR THE CARTOON
No.243458
Anonymous
>>243457
Looking forward to this.
No.243459
Anonymous
Replies:>>243470
>>243457
Is this for JLA?
No.243464
Jumpman
>>243457
>That line.

Ha. Should be a fun cartoon, but the 11-minute time limit concerns me. Can't blame WBA when CN refuses to repeat anything that doesn't fit their mold. Hard to believe we once had hour-long Justice League episodes. That's something that will never happen again. (But to be honest, I don't mint cuz JL would seriously have pointless filler to fill out the time length).
No.243470
The Sneaky Tiki
>>243459
Yup!
No.243481
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>243391
That's because it's not about Superman anymore, it's about Jon.
No.243482
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>243481
Being the fucking best.
No.243492
Anonymous
>>243482
Well, I like Jon. As long as the book focuses on him instead of nuKal-L it might be alright.
No.243494
Anonymous
>>243457
That super breath face is adorable.
No.243495
Anonymous
>>243482
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PGnL9Lk_4pk
This totally played in my head while reading that.
No.243508
Anonymous
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http://www.newsarama.com/30236-sdcc-2016-justice-league-action-panel.html
>Patton Oswald as Space Cabbie
No.243515
Anonymous
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_rM3rAJsTY
Looking forward to this, so much.
No.243529
The Sneaky Tiki
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Okay, Lex as Super Punisher is pretty great.
No.243564
Jumpmam
Replies:>>243566
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http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-killing-joke-movie-is-a-disaster-right-down-to-its-1784176711
No.243566
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>243567
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>>243564
How is it possible to fuck up like this?
No.243567
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>243571
>>243566

It gets worse. A lot worse.

https://storify.com/marcyjcook/start-to-finish-breakdown-of-the-killing-joke-movi
No.243568
Anonymous
Eh, just gonna sit back and see where this goes.
No.243569
Anonymous
Replies:>>243604
Even without reading that much into the way the movie portrays Babs, that is NOT how to approach criticism, and putting in a sex scene like that is the last thing I want to see between her and Bruce.
No.243571
Anonymous
>>243567
ok. Yeah. Fuck that.
No.243604
Anonymous
Replies:>>243606
>>243569
Timm is a weirdo who seems to have some obsession about Bruce fucking Babs.

I dunno, maybe he just likes to have Batman fucking all the chicks to show how big his batdick is while being a brooding asshole who's never going to actually get together with one of them, didn't they have him fucking Lois Lane too in the DCAU along with his massive string of love interests in his own cartoon and Wonder Woman in the Justice League cartoon?
No.243606
Anonymous
>>243604
Though to be frank people kinda wrote her into having a kinda thing for Batman a bit earlier than him. Timm just went with it.

Also kinda makes sense since they lined up for a bit that it would make their relationship possible. But eventually as Barbara states in Beyond. She just had to move on since he would always put the job first.
No.243607
Anonymous
As unlikely as it is, I still kind of hope we get a Birds of Prey movie, since Babs becomes Oracle.
No.243608
Anonymous
Yeah, the sex scene is probably the most outputting part of the movie, but honestly, I enjoyed it for the most part.
No.243609
Anonymous
Replies:>>243619
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Mite b cool
No.243619
Anonymous
Replies:>>243620
>>243609
Wait is that Constantine?
No.243620
Anonymous
>>243619
I believe he's known as Istanbul nowadays, thank you very much.
No.243621
Anonymous
Replies:>>243623
>>243620
That'll likely change in a bit. So we'll have Constantine via Constantinople in Cimmeria
No.243622
Anonymous
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So, I probably should have seen this coming.
No.243623
Anonymous
Replies:>>243624
>>243620
>>243621
But why did Constanine ople get the works?
No.243624
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>243623

Ain’t nobody’s business but the Turks.
No.243734
The Sneaky Tiki
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HOLY SHIT FUCK YOU NEW 52, THEY BROUGHT BACK BIBBO!!!

IT'S LIKE I CAN FINALLY, ACTUALLY GIVE A FUCK AGAIN!
No.243743
Anonymous
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>>243734
And it ends with Supes flying a deep sea submersible to the moon while Bibbo smiles.
No.243756
Anonymous
Replies:>>243758
>>243734
Yeah fuck you New 52, why did you bring Bibbo back? You should have completely forgotten him or had him raped like the good old DC.
No.243758
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>243768
>>243756
What in fuck are you talking about? 52 has been over for a year and was the death of anything resembling fun.
No.243768
Anonymous
>>243758
God no it wasn't. DC Comics absolutely were not any more fun before New 52 and fun clearly existed in those books.
No.243903
Anonymous
Replies:>>243908
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SKWAD gets roasted:

//youtube.com/watch?v=PMNFaAUs2moyoutube thumb
No.243908
Anonymous
>>243903
Her video on Star Wars names is also pretty great.
No.243934
Anonymous
Replies:>>243937
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Bruce Wayne has too much money.
No.243937
Anonymous
Replies:>>243940
>>243934
How did they make Superman filled with ghosts fighting the Eradicator on the moon, with Lois in a robot suit, so goddamn boring?
No.243940
Anonymous
>>243937
I don't know.
I did expect both Superman and Lois to die for a second, since Eradicator ate Supes and the Hellbat suit slowly kills its wearer or something.
No.244014
Anonymous
Replies:>>244016
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It wasn't great and I don't know how to feel about them going "It's actually not aliens. It's magic." as I loved Jaime's iriginal series and the Reach were a good enemy for him, but I liked this issue and I look forward to more.
No.244016
Anonymous
Replies:>>244017
>>244014

I just really hate what they did to Ted's character. I understand the end goal they have in mind, to have a Ted Kord Blue Beetle back in the roster, but the way they're going about it is totally ass-backwards. Instead of it being Dan Garrett passing on the torch to Ted, this Kord feels like he's eagerly riding Jaime's reluctant coattails.
No.244017
Anonymous
>>244016
I suppose, though I read it more as him being eager to be a mentor and play a sort of Batman role to this kid who just wants to live a normal life. It could have been handled better though. I'll see where it goes with further issues though.
No.244099
Anonymous
>new six-issue crossover: Justice League vs. Suicide Squad
>will run for six issues weekly in December 2016 and January 2017
>written by Joshua Williamson
>art by Jason Fabok and later Tony Daniel
>the creative team for the Justice League tie-in issues (#11 and #12) is not yet announced
>Suicide Squad tie-in issues (#9 & #10) will be written by Tim Seeley
>the previously announced JLA book will rise in February 2017 featuring Steve Orlando on the pen
>more at NYCC
No.244109
Anonymous
Anyone checking out New Super-Man? Surprised how much I'm enjoying it so far, even though I never liked any of Yang's other work, especially not his Avatar comics.
No.244281
Anonymous
I'm probably dumb for wanting this, but Emiko Queen for Teen Titans please.
No.244438
Anonymous
Replies:>>244444
Steve Dillon of Preacher fame just passed away. RIP.

Fuck 2016.
No.244444
Anonymous
Replies:>>244452
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>>244438
I literally hope as a fuck you to his critiques he has nothing but the Steve Dillon face on his grave.
No.244445
Anonymous
Replies:>>244446
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No.244446
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>244445

Based Dillon.
No.244452
Anonymous
Replies:>>244460
>>244444
While it is true that some people go way overboard with the whole "Frank face" meme, death should not be a shield to stop criticism of a man's work.
Replies:>>244473
Reading the Wonder Woman Rebirth comics... they are actually pretty good. I like how they reinvented Cheetah's origins and made Barbara someone who was a friend to Diana before she changed.
No.244460
Anonymous
>>244452
>death should not be a shield to stop criticism of a man's work.
Whatdoyamean?
//youtube.com/watch?v=FtxqohNtLIgyoutube thumb
No.244473
Anonymous
>>244457
There was a part in the latest issue that resonated with me a bit and I really liked it. Wonder Woman is one of my favorite books from DC right now and one of the few I keep up with regularly.
No.244720
Anonymous
Replies:>>244723
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Hastings has taken the Gwenpool comic and dumped it onto another universe. I'm okay with that.
No.244723
Anonymous
Replies:>>244724
>>244720
I'm confused. This is a DC thread and everything in that post is Marvel related, did one company flagrantly rip off the other one or something?
No.244724
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
Replies:>>244725
>>244723
No, people just confuse which this thread is for because the OP doesn't have a title and the mobile version cuts it off on "MARVEL COMICS".
No.244725
Anonymous
>>244724
And both in vague reboots at the same time further blurring lines.
No.244767
Anonymous
Replies:>>244768
Justice League Action is pretty fun.
No.244768
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>244769
>>244767
It's incredibly censored yet they seem to have picked stories that make it stand out like a sore thumb.

Maybe don't do Zombies if they have to breath gas instead of bite.
No.244769
Anonymous
Replies:>>244770
>>244768
Good point. Plus, as much as I like Constantine, the surly chainsmoking bisexual who fights demons seems like he will be wasted here. I still like the show well enough so far though.
No.244770
Anonymous
>>244769
Don't they usually gloss over the 'bi' in his sexuality most of the time anyway and just have him with women?
No.244837
The Sneaky Tiki
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It's nice to be able to look at Supergirl and not want to smash your face on a desk again.
No.244839
Anonymous
>>244837
Nice using some iteration of her classic costume and no more knee gaps.

Has she met Superman Classic yet?
No.244843
Anonymous
>>244837
I just wish her book could stop harping on her origin story over and over.
No.244848
Anonymous
Brett Booth's art is meh and I hate Baseball cap Roy Harper, but I have been enjoying the current Titans book. I just wish it had better art.
No.244985
The Sneaky Tiki
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oh hey, better costume by a country mile, it only took them 6 or so years to realize how badly they fucked up.
No.245161
Anonymous
Replies:>>245162
http://www.newsarama.com/33077-teen-titans-the-judas-contract-trailer.html
No.245162
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>245161

Wow. I remember hearing about this one being "in the works" years ago.

Also next time just post the YouTube link: //youtube.com/watch?v=TmpUh7U7Sqkyoutube thumb
No.245163
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
Replies:>>245164
>>245162
>I remember hearing about this one being "in the works" years ago.
It was announced in, what, 2008?
No.245164
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>245165
>>245163

Jeez, has it really been that long?
No.245165
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
>>245164
Actually, it was anounced even longer ago--2006. It was supposed be the third DC Animated movie, after Superman: Doomsday and Justice League. 2008 was the year it was put on hold, and apparently remained there until last year.

That said, it seems to just be a new project with the same source material, not reviving whatever little they'd planned back then.
No.245166
Anonymous
>>245162
Yeah, I should have just done that. Regardless, I have been looking forward to this and I hope it's good.
No.245170
Anonymous
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I was hoping my favorite might turn up.
No.245191
Anonymous
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfDrWQTwZlY
A new clip was released for Judas Contract.
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YOOOOOOO DC!

Nice step in the direction of making me give a fuck, keep shitting on the New 52, shit waaaaaaay harder on it.
No.245997
Anonymous
>>245989
So from what we saw of the immediate post Death of Superman in this merged universe the thing that Clark feels is missing is Conner Who'll pop back in to help wipe the floor with these guys.
No.246023
Anonymous
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Hey! Thanks, Mr. Gazoo!

Yea this comic ends soon which is sad. But damn glad it does so on such a high note. One of the most solid runs of a book I've ever seen. Will buy the Trade without question.
No.246290
Anonymous
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All the Superman stuff is really solid now. Can't wait to see where the adventures in the city lead young Jon.
No.246313
Anonymous
Replies:>>246326
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I don't think I like what they did with Barda's eyes, also she's too small.
No.246326
Anonymous
Replies:>>246327
>>246313
I wonder if she will be mind-controlled into doing porn
No.246327
Anonymous
>>246326
Plot twist: She actually gets mind-controlled into declining a role in porn.
No.246729
Anonymous
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This is such heavy metal grade eight shit......I am so excited.
No.247332
Anonymous
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Why does an obscure anime from the 80's called Black Magic M-66 know how to write Lois Lane better than modern writers?

(Caution NSFW due to adorable nudity.)

https://youtu.be/-fGHtz30Occ?t=1m42s
No.247333
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>247332

Because a shitload of modern writers would not know what to do with a nuanced female character who has active agency over her own life if said character was dumped in their laps.
No.247343
Mister Twister
>>247332
>that link
I am going to watch a SHITLOAD of 70s and 80s and 90s animu (when I could afford to).
No.247357
Anonymous
Replies:>>247358
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I want to make a hard hitting political intrigue story around Superman being completely outclassed by a natural disaster and Clark Kent being overwhelmed by the resultant mismanagement, government incompetence and disgusting aspects of human nature.

I want the Kevin Carter side of the Superman universe,

//youtube.com/watch?v=RFaSa28ahrMyoutube thumb
No.247358
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
>>247357
That sounds like the book Gladiator.
No.247359
Anonymous
Replies:>>247360
>>247358
>Gladiator
Gotta be more specific, Marvel's version overtakes any search, at least give me a company.
No.247360
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
>>247358
>>247359
When I said "book", I meant "prose novel".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(novel)
No.247566
Anonymous
Eddie Berganza is finally out, huzzah!
Replies:>>247569
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>>247566
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
No.247569
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>247567

WHY WOULDN’T HE OPEN HIS EYES
No.247572
Anonymous
>>247566
Both the Majors having an editorial shakeup.

Hope this is a turning point for them both.
No.247574
Anonymous
Replies:>>247575
https://twitter.com/AnimatedJL/status/932777277741584384
They might make a DCAU Justice League reunion movie if it gets enough traction.
No.247575
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>247574

If this would FINALLY mark the last time Conroy does the Batman voice, I would be all in.
No.248279
Anonymous
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>breaking the law and blatant bias in journalism are now a-okay according to Superman

Egads. Bendis’ Superman is going to be one enormous AMERICA-tier run that’s never going to end

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No.248304
Anonymous
>>248279
Am I the only one who actively avoids a book now when Bendis gets a hold of it? I stopped giving a shit about X-Men at that time, I stopped caring about Guardians of the Galaxy when it was rebooted with Bendis at helm, and now Superman will be another book I won't ever bother checking.

I mean circa 2005 or so with the New Avengers, his style was okay as it was fresh, but it became just poor by the end of the decade. And even then I only liked it because I wasn't reading Avengers before that to begin with (he axed a lot of the cast on purpose, ignoring entire storylines).
No.248312
Anonymous
>>248279
Superman as an immigrant...
Only by the most technical definition, which is a perfect example of how this is going to go wrong already.