>>238372 I grew up with the cartoon so my perspective may be a little partial, but the cartoon is basically the comics translated 1:1 into animated form (minus allowances made for running time and budget), so if that's your bag then I'd definitely recommend it. I've got the box set, and the series covers all the albums (except the first two for painfully obvious reasons), but if you're looking for original stories with Tintin, Haddock, Calculus and the gang then there are a few animated movies out there that might appeal (having never seen them I can't vouch for their quality, mind).
>>238372 To be frank, I always found them kinda boring. It's basically James Bond/Indiana Jones junior, with more wacky sidekick characters and a dog. It's just that frankly, Tintin himself is not a really interesting character, and the mystery is usually not that much. I was very disappointed in the Spielberg movie too.
>>238567 For reference, that's a place that gives solid forms to imaginary creatures (for demonstration in couples' therapy). Bill is a creature from a dimension made of nightmares which he wants to merge with the material world.
After all that talk about the movie, I started watching Penguins the cartoon. Except I couldn't find any good caps, so I've just been DVR-ing it whenever it's on YTV. They sure do like to marathon it. Like maybe, once a month or so.
Jesus Christ that poor soul, it is really sad /co/ prime has been right about literally everything in terms of racial diversity, sexual harassment and numerous other bullshit tumblr pandering shit companies have been lying about.
Also surprise, surprise, 75% is literally Berganza's fault because literally anytime you are talking about an evil dirtbag in comics whose name you can't mention it's Berganza. Fucking comicbook Voldemort.
>>238676 You think they would have learn by now, after the Sklyer Page incident along with Yale Stewart. But yeah, it's terrible Alex De Campi will be blacklisted, while all the awful people in the comics industry continue to work.
http://alexdecampi.tumblr.com/post/129003838049/you-can-only-find-the-best-version-of-wonder-woman >Kids, there are five known big-name, vindictive harassers in comics, and about three bad drunks. Two harassers are writers employed by DC; one is a DC editor; two are writers employed by Marvel.
I'm guessing one of the ones at Marvel is Nathan Edmondson.
So, uh, South Park came back for a new season last night. I get what they were going for with PC Principal and all that, but…uh…did the endi—no, strike that, reverse it, did the whole episode just kinda fall flat for everyone else?
In any case, I think that’s the last new SP episode I’m gonna watch for a good long while. Not because I was offended by it (as if), but because it was just so…boring.
>>238695 Oh no. You're very clearly offended. Your stance, your diction tell me that you are offended. Your diction is dismissive, you carry something that weighs you down. I smell it on your very breath.
>>238696 Yeah. I think it's pretty clear they're going to use him to fuel the rest of the season.
>>238695 I actually thought it was pretty funny. Not amazing, but definitely alright. It could have used more jokes than it had, and definitely relied too much on the fratboy pc thing, but I thought it was better than most episodes in the last few seasons have been.
At the very least, I'm curious about where they'll take the show this season and what kind of humor they'll rely on.
Oh hey, the toys are out. This is such an old fashioned ploy by Dreamworks, so I wonder how it's going to work for them. A shame it probably won't show up until their Q4 report. Also I've made a hobby of reading quarterly shareholder earnings report transcripts of publicly traded companies, when did I become so boring?
>>238800 I've been following DWA via http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/DWA They seem to have a premium service that they occasionally bug you about but that hasn't really stopped me from reading the reports. Dragons sells a lot of toys and accounts for a good percentage of their revenue these days, so they're hoping they can make lightning strike twice with Dinotrux.
>>238794 >Werner Herzog was on Rick and Morty. >I'm just continually weirded out when people like that appear on shows like this. >No complaints, just... Weird.
It's always jarring when Serious Arteests turn out to be as big a bunch of nerds as the rest of us. It's validation that our geeky interests are as legitimate as any other artistic pursuit, which is always nice.
I'm just looking forward to the day when I'm at an Islington champagne party and I overhear Germaine Greer and Salman Rushdie saying "yo, the latest Steven Universe was the shit" "I KNOW RITE?"
I realize now the hidden link with the recent trend in dvd boxarts of seemingly unrelated companies is they are all partnered with 20th Century Fox for home release distribution. I guess that means they get to enforce a solid colour headshot of main character style on all of them.
Just when you think you figure out their schedule they abruptly announce an update that was on nobody's Netflix update schedules a mere 3 days ahead of time. Sometimes I miss TV where you can just expect a new episode every week instead of a random batch of them at a completely random and unpredictable time.
>>238924 Both films benefit from Genndy involvement so it has good animation gags and cues. But I've heard the second one is still good in spite of Sandler and his bullying for more production control.
>>238966 Croods was massively creative. Unlike Disney and/or Pixar who keep lying in their trailers about what their movies are about. And you get crap instead of what you expected, but because your expectations were so high, you leave the movie overhyping that garbage.
Up looked like a drama about some old guy getting his life under control again. But it was a dumb movie about dogs in planes with a strong beginning.
Frozen looked like an epic where someone tries to defeat her sister despite she being evil, leaving her conflicted. Instead, it's overhyped cutesy garbage, which, just because Disney adapted to becoming more deep like other movies loooong ago, is massively overhyped.
Brave looked like a cool, dark film about Scottish folklore. It was a dumbass movie about a girl trying to hide her bear-mom.
And, the worst contender here, Inside Out looked like an interesting movie which analyzes psychology in a fun way, but instead it's a road trip featuring Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie only.
>>238979 Kids movies don't get to be excused for being bad, but anyone who expected Up to be >a drama about some old guy getting his life under control again needs to remember who these movies are made for.
A bunch of new Nickelodeon shorts. http://www.nick.com/short-toons/ I hope Magic Children gets made into a series. I love Monica Ray's style. Mega link for those who want/need it of Magic Children ==> https://mega.nz/#!nFYDRByB!TIDhlLVUxCC5oeb1xhdsKRtC1Kj9lqpm77zNpP_35oM
>>239070 >child endangerment What's hilarious about this one is that they had to rewrite one scene for this in "See No Evil" (the one with the invisible man who tries to kidnap his daughter from his ex-wife), yet earlier in the same season "Be a Clown" had a climax where the mayor's son was on a roller coaster with Batman, headed toward broken rails while Joker was throwing bombs at them.
>guns What? Batman: The Animated Series has guns as over. Granted, not hitting anyone like that.
>>239071 Jumping through windows was supposedly imitable. Reboot has a similar restriction, hence the scene where Glitch suddenly makes a window disappear before Bob crashes through it.
It's an idea that's totally forgot nowadays. Shows nowadays can show defenestration (for action or comedy) and still be Y7.
>>239075 Yeah, but there are also a bunch of handguns (of vague design, like the one Joker is holding in that picture) and shotguns (mostly trench guns, which are also old-looking but still seen commonly).
Oh, and looking around it turns out another thing they couldn't show was "homeless people that are not adult men".
So Sony is doing an Animated Ghostbusters film as well as the reboot thing for next year. Think they'll be smart and put someone like Genndy on the project since he's got his own project in the works now.
>>239073 Batman: TAS and other cartoons of that era were produced for network television. Nowadays I believe most TV cartoons are made for cable: CN and Disney and their ilk. The impression I get is that since they're more directly involved with the production process they don't need to set down strict prohibitive guidelines but instead handle each show on a case-by-case basis. This does risk arbitrary sanctions whenever an exec takes a gut-feeling dislike to a show, but on the other hand it allows creators to game the system more - take Alex Hirsch putting one really out-there gag in an episode, being told to remove it, and thus letting the edgier gags he actually wanted in the episode to pass under the radar.
>>239019 I thought it was pretty damn good; not as good as the original, but funny in a modern sort of way; the writers for the new show seem more focused on getting the plot done, rather than the silly banter of the original
>>239128 I'm surprised they needed a sacrificial lamb for that. Those bathing suit designs were all pretty tame, and honestly probably more demure than most girls those age would wear if it had been real life, at least in the modern day.
>>239130 Yeah, at the end of the day, the execs were still trying to sell the show to a much younger demo than they were broadly getting. They wanted to milk that Y7 market for all the money they were worth rather than understanding that most of the numbers were in the low to upper teens.
The animation ghetto might have finally started to diminish, but the execs are holding onto it. HARD.
>>239131 Executives hate changing markets. So much so that they often pressure marketing to try and reinforce whatever markets where already set. It's simply easier for them to handle. The fact that we're seeing all these riskier shows pop up tells me that the old styles just aren't as profitable any more.
>>239418 Past couple of years it's gotten worse with the "them" in question I think bring the newcomers mistaking what was once ribbing "trolling" as actual acceptable behavior and being actual trolls. Threads without those idiots are nice till they decide to come in and wreck the joint acting like it's a service of the common good or something.
As for cash ins, I've no problem if they enhance the lore.
>Instead of another 5 episode pack they wrap up season 1 of All Hail King Julien and upload the remaining 16 episodes Well that's cool now I can don't have to be left wanting more because 5 goes by so quick- >Sudden cliffhanger season finale AAAAAHHHHHH.
>>239412 I think pretty much every abnormality in a cartoon is a fetish and therefore gets an audience. There aren't a lot of cartoons that have never had a character grow, shrink or inflate. I think it might even be more the cause of the fetish than the effect of it (though that is debatable). I also maintain that every production studio should have an uncloseted mad fetishist to assist in decisions.
Shitly-cropped comment from my archive, as the rest was specific to a different show.
>>239559 >I also maintain that every production studio should have an uncloseted mad fetishist to assist in decisions. The instant he starts rubbing himself under the table, the episode goes back for a page-one rewrite. I could get behind that.
We must not repeat the mistakes of past generations. I want at least one cohort of cartoon-watching kids not to grow up fantasising about intercourse with Rococo furniture while dressed as a fucking bee.
>>239559 Someone to suggest an episode where a bunch of animals find a bunch of human stuff they don't know what it is and decide to start wearing it as high fashion and someone else to suggest what the most absurd and totally not their fetish thing it should be.
>>239616 I vaguely remember hearing Hallelujah before reading Watchmen, but I couldn't recognize it in written form. I don't instantly associate Hallelujah with Watchmen, and if I can recall correctly, Watchmen played a different cover of Hallelujah.
>Dreamworks Animation 3rd Quarter Profit report >Television animation profits are up 300% >It turns out people respond positively when you add episodes in larger batches Go figure. They didn't mention if the gambit with the dinotrux toyline paid off or not, they just said those profits were after the cost of setting all that up. And of course they expect Kung Fu Panda 3 to do especially well in China //youtube.com/watch?v=fGPPfZIvtCw I'm cautiously optimistic for that, it's always hard to tell the quality of a Dreamworks movie by its English trailer, but it's been a strong franchise so far.
The Peanuts Movie was beautiful, funny, and touching. Its pacing is hectic at time and the Red Barron scenes only exist for justifying 3D showing, but the film overall was a great tribute Charles M. Schulz's work. My entire theater clapped at the very end.
Hands down the best film from Blue Sky Studios - which admittedly isn't saying much given their track record - but everyone involved really gave it their all this time.
>>240426 That is an easy mistake to make from the way they showed the growth of father/son like friendship grow between Jim and Silver. And Treasure Planet was a wonderful Disney movie, I kinda wish it was 30 minutes longer or a 2 part movie to give more characterization to everybody, especially the Captain.
>>240549 >less appealing to the eye No anon, that is totally subjective.
CGI took over because – It is modern technology, and modern is always cool and you are cool for liking modern things. – It looks like reality. CGI looks like real life, with all the details, lack of outlines, and dat lighting.
2D does not look like real life, and CGI does. Maybe people really want to deceive themselves into believing what they see on the screen is actually real. That is my theory, and I am sticking with it.
Well, they have new Oggy on English Netflix now, but they took down the old episodes for that. I hate it when they do that. I've seen season 1 and whatever season this new one is, it's the stuff in the middle I wanted to see more of.
>>240574 Didn't mean to sound like I had contempt for the show, I've been a fan for a long time. I just think this season is especially good. I thought last season was good as well. I thought the two seasons before that were a dip in quality but still overall enjoyable.
But yeah, I don't hate the show. It's one of my favorites.
>>240596 There was a time when Trey and Matt just wanted to push it to the limits and just get the show canned because they were tired of it, and then something happened. Don't know it it was the second wind or maybe being able to write coherent and pretty complex serialized story lines tying themes together into a lampooning jab seems to have helped them. Maybe it was getting to just blow of steam with a game and just pour everything they'd want straight into that product without many of the restrictions they get from television.
Dragon's Lair keekstartr has been cancelled. The men in charge admitted it was poorly planned and organized. The project will return on December 1, improved, with better rewards, and hopefully $5 as the lowest option.
>>240648 That's understandable, too many of the producers in there are just poor excuses for Human Beings, do have a soft spot for Hagan since they were one of the few to not act like a ass during the Spoony incident and stay neutral.
Having watched Dreamworks' Home on Netflix, it is indeed so-so. I'm a bit confused to how easily Oh convinces everyone he's right when they spend the entire movie hating and ignoring him, but okay. Strange that it's done well when Penguins did terribly, but I guess that's just a sign that Dreamworks doesn't do good with competition. Hence staying out of Star Wars' way and putting out KFP3 in Q1.
>“Adult Swim is excited to announce that JACK IS BACK. Creator and executive producer Genndy Tartakovsky continues the epic story of Samurai Jack with a new season of episodes that will premiere on Adult Swim’s Toonami block in 2016.”
>>240712 >The new season is currently in production in Los Angeles at Cartoon Network Studios. Wonder how much of the original crew will return. Looking through a list of directors and storyboard artist, it seems a lot of them have worked for Cartoon Network semi-recently.
I mean, besides Aku (who's probably gonna be Greg Baldwin) the cast isn't a huge mystery: the show only had two regular characters and one-three recurring ones (depending on if you counted Jack's parents). LaMarr and DiMaggio haven't gone anywhere.
>>240712 So two things bother me about this based off this announcement.
1. Because this is on Adult Swim, I'm concerned it won't have as much charm as the original. The original had a deliberately cartoony style and sense of humor to it. It was fun. But even with Genndy coming back, the fact that it's on an adult programming block means there will most likely be more violence and cursing, and probably more adult humor. I know some people see it as not being held back by network restrictions, but for me it causes a dissonance with the original.
>>240728 Jack ran the gamut back in the day of some things that may not be acceptable now. But even then its more that its going to be on Toonami than its going to be on adult swim and they've been running SBT and Jack for a while now.
I think that Shogun is more Aku getting another of his goons to go after Jack, maybe training them as Jack was trained. Though Jack getting Shogun armor wouldn't be amiss on his way to becoming Old King Jack.
I'd be worried if Genndy wasn’t on board, but I imagine that he’ll keep the show true to its original form rather than let the new “adult” trappings of Toonami dictate the tone, style, and aesthetic of his creation. Maybe he’ll lean a little more TV-14 this time around, but I can’t imagine him going TV-MA with Jack.
>>240731 Swap Gore for Oil some of those battles got pretty brutal. SBT skirted that edge pretty finely. But I think he'll be fine. Maybe Sugar will look to have him in on her bigger action scenes. He'd be a boon to Adventure Time as well if they looked to him for his input. Mans talent for visceral action is a rare one in the west.
>>240732 I'd be OK with that. I'm fine with more gore to make the battles more visceral but I can't imagine more than a "damn" out of any of the characters. Maybe fanservicey designs will be more common but preferably nothing more than that, and hopefully they'll be less afraid of portraying LGBT characters this time around.
>>240774 I thought of that as well. From the expository nature of their dialogue, I was imagining they would just suddenly cut into that scene from nowhere then continue on to something else without comment. Looking the issue's actual plot up was almost disappointed, though it was amusing it of itself.
>>240776 Having seen every episode of the series recently, no. There is, at no point, any implication that any character was LGBT and they just didn't want to show it/say it outright. Unless I missed some subtle context somewhere. So I can only assume Anon is saying "There are no gay characters, they should add at least one."
>>240867 That is what I'm trying to pin down. If so then I've possibly got more leeway in this Spec Script I'm writing for a fellowship and portfolio.
Its a question as right now Rick and Morty and Bojack Horseman are highly sought Animated Prime-time scripts. And the rule is do a show you like but have no intention of being hired for (don't do shows for the network you are submitting to)
So yea any interviews where they talk about how they work would be helpful in finding my direction in this script layout.
>>240867 I think I heard that it's not entirely retroscripted, but partially so. Like there are in-depth outlines that are written ahead of time, and maybe even a bunch of lines, but the actors are allowed to go off script and ad-lib. Can't cite a source on that, so I could be wrong. I know Adventure Time was confirmed recently to only have outlines before passing things on to the storyboarders, and the dialog scripts are transcribed from those--because one of the people responsible for transcribing the scripts was on Tumblr complaining about a panel that had Finn saying "Dude. What the fuck," because "then I have to come up with something that's as funny as 'what the fuck.' And nothing's funnier than 'what the fuck.'"
>Increased Continuity between episodes >An actual story arc going through the last half >A two-parter season finale. You know, earlier I said Dreamworks' shows were doing better just because they were releasing more at once. But I forgot to also give credit to the writers using the larger batches as a chance to actually write better stories.
>>240874 That's one of the pluses I see in the Digital System. Usually they steer away from doing arcs and connected storyline because they don't really know most the time what order batch episodes will be shown in. But with the Digital its pretty straightforward how the shows will go. Overall Dreamworks is making good product with Netflix, only one I don't know if its good is their live action fare.
>>240875 Cartoons have been kinda slow in taking advantage of Our New Streaming Media World, unlike live action shows (it's a bit of a pattern with the medium, going back to how the coming of television in the '50s hit the major Hollywood animation studios disproportionately hard), so I'm very interested in what kinds of shows emerge now that Netflix and Amazon Prime are finally dipping their toes in.
Netflix has been hamstrung by their animated shows being cross-media tie-ins rather than original properties, but the first batch of Amazon animated pilots include a couple of possible gems (especially Cartoon Saloon's Eddie of the Realms Eternal). It's an area to keep an eye on, definitely...it might be a platform on which those continuity-heavy action shows that have traditionally suffered on cable (like Motorcity or Sym-bionic Titan) finally have a chance to thrive.
>>240882 >Cartoons have been kinda slow in taking advantage of Our New Streaming Media World, unlike live action shows (it's a bit of a pattern with the medium, going back to how the coming of television in the '50s hit the major Hollywood animation studios disproportionately hard)
Cartoons have an extreme disadvantage in that they require a pretty heavy time investment in order to actually generate something.
Even with new computer animated stuff, there's a sunk time issue where actually animating the thing eats up a mess of time, which live action doesn't suffer from because realistically you only need a camera and you don't need to make every object from scratch.
>>240889 >Cartoons have an extreme disadvantage in that they require a pretty heavy time investment in order to actually generate something.
Cartoons took a ridiculously long time to "gel" with television, but they managed it eventually (albeit not without a lot of outsourcing and extensive hiatuses...hiatii...uh, anyone know the plural for "hiatus"?).
If anything, I'd argue that online streaming could segue much better with animation's natural rhythms than television does: TV is a constantly-starving beast that demands a neverending tidal wave of content in neat 22-minute pieces. It leads to absurd situations like second seasons being well into production by the time the first season finale is polished enough to air, so the creators are constantly nine months behind the curve of public opinion, they have no idea what audiences liked or didn't like about the first season. Streaming services, on the other hand, are happy to let the content creators get all their ducks in a row before releasing the fruits of their labours in one cohesive chunk. There's also no need to "fill airtime", which means that studios can concentrate on creating fewer, higher-value episodes per season that don't even need to be the same length as each other - a plot thread can be left in one episode and picked up in the next safe in the knowledge that the audience doesn't need to be brought up to speed every single time. It just generally offers more freedom.
The problem, I suspect, isn't so much on the production side but on the market side. Kids' networks function well and are very popular because the grown-ups can dump their spawn in front of the telly safe in knowledge that the screen will occupy the younglings while they go off and do grown-up things. On-demand streaming doesn't have the same reach, at least not yet, it's still very much tied to "boxset culture" - that is to say, colonising the sofa in your undies with a tub of ice cream and bingeing on something with lots of drama and swearing in it. I don't know if enough parents are comfortable letting their kids watch whatever they please on Netflix without supervision to sustain a market for cartoons of this type. This does seem to be changing as streaming services become ubiquitous, but it goes some way to explain why it's taken this long for Netflix and Amazon to diversify into non-adult animated content.
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