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Holy Shit there goes the hope for the Post-Convergence DCU.

YOU THOUGHT THE NEW 52 WAS EDGY KIDS!? WELL YOU HAVEN'T SEEN EDGY YET!

SUPERMAN IS NOW A STREET BRAWLER
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The Sneaky Tiki
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WE GAVE WONDER WOMAN SWORDS, THEN WE GAVE HER THE ABILITY TO SUMMON SWORDS! NOW HER COSTUME HAS SWORDS AS PART OF IT!

SWORDS! SWORDS? SWORDS!
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The Sneaky Tiki
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Space cops? PFFT THAT'S LAME! (even though DC can't remember that's what Green Lantern is supposed to be) NOW HE'S A SPACE WAR CRIMINAL HOBO
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The Sneaky Tiki
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THE FLASH COSTUME IS ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC IN COMICS AND WE RUINED IT BY ADDING STUPID SHIT IN THE NEW 52? DON'T WORRY WE'RE FIXING IT! CHECK IT OUT, MORE PIPING AND LINES!!!!!!
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The Sneaky Tiki
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Something has gone horribly wrong when Bizarro's costume is the best Superman costume in the last 5 years.
No.234925
The Sneaky Tiki
Weirdly there is nothing wrong with Green Arrow's redesign, in fact it is a step in the right direction.
No.234927
Anonymous
Replies:>>234928
I actually kind of like Wonder Woman's though I wish it looked a little more Greek-inspired. But are you sure that's Supes and not shitty Teen Titans-and onward Kon-El?
No.234928
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>234927
Admittedly without the dumb blades it's okay and yes, that's Superman's new, terrible costume.

Goddamn this art is so bad.
No.234929
Anonymous
Replies:>>234930
Her new suit looks very Mass Effect
No.234930
Sharkman Jhones
>>234929

Wrist-sword thing even kinds looks like an Omni-Blade.
No.234931
Anonymous
>>234923
I actually really dig Ollie's redesign. But classic Red Flash is still best Flash.
No.234933
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>234934
This is embarassing enough to make me want DC out of comics for good.
No.234934
Anonymous
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>>234933
Why? A lot of the stories are still pretty solid even if the aesthetics are shit.
No.234935
The Sneaky Tiki
>>234934
In my case all the characters I want to read about in addition to fucking horrible aesthetics and art are written FUCKING TERRIBLY.

I dunno what the fuck happened to Greg Pak but it's embarrassing how terrible AC is.
No.234936
Anonymous
Replies:>>234939
Why the fuck does Superman even need a redesign? He's one of the things that's so grandfathered that it looks shit whenever you try something different. Look at Man of Steel and how terrible that costume looked.
No.234937
Anonymous
>>234928
The fact that Diana's abs are visible is a nice touch (and good to my boner). Too bad the overall art looks so dumb.
No.234939
Anonymous
Replies:>>234940
>>234936
His classic Red and Blues set him apart an also as a good contrast to Bruce and his Greys and Blues/Blacks. Making him look a lot like Conner, I've got no idea where they are intending to go with him. I mean his suit always had a story and was part of his process in becoming a hero. Bumming around in a T-shirt and Jeans I don't know what that is supposed to convey.

Diana would look okay, if she was one of the New Gods or something. Someone from space and not Pantheon connected Demi-god.
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Anonymous
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>>234939
Hopefully Conner switches back to something more like his original costume, or at least slims back down to ottermode instead of being such a lazy Supes clone (yeah yeah I know, but he was great in his Young Justice days precisely because wasn't one).
No.234941
Anonymous
>>234940
Yea I was bummed the series ditched that "Peter Pan" phase and his mentor/guardian. And his bubbly GF and Agent. She'd been fun.
No.234942
Anonymous
>>234940
The closest I've come to liking a Superboy design since YJ was New 52 Tronboy suit, because it wasn't just jeans and a t-shirt.

(I discount his Superboy and the Legion look because that was straight "Superman with a Legion logo belt buckle")

Conner should always have a boss jacket.
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Anonymous
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>>234940
>all this talk about best Superboy
Probably a little late, but good news guys.
Also on a kind of offtopic note am I the only one who's reminded of Kon a little with Joseph Joestar? So does Kamina from TTGL too to a lesser extent.
No.234944
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>234943
Convergence is never good because it's literally killing off everything everyone liked.
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>>234943
I always felt that Kon originally started as a PG version of Joseph.
I hated the sudden transformation into a "jock with a heart of gold" that Johns brought out of nowhere on his run of the Titans.

>>234944
Geez Tiki, take a chill pill.
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Anonymous
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>>234943
They even look a little similar in terms of hairstyle and body type in YJ (at least towards the end of Part 2, when Araki started moving away from the Liefeld proportions).
>Next thing you're going to say is "Tactile telekinesis!"
>Tactile teleki-BRUH
>BRUH
>And then they went out for a night on the town.
No.234955
The Sneaky Tiki
>>234947
But that's what Convergence is. It is literally about killing off everything you loved about DC while wringing just a one last drop of money out of the gullible.
No.234957
Anonymous
Replies:>>234958
I honestly think most of you guys are overreacting. Like, I'm not a big fan of the Superman's new costume, but I'm willing to let it slide because it's very clearly going to be temporary.

You don't have to like Convergence, but stop acting as if it's the worst thing ever. Besides, there's a bunch of interesting DC books coming out this summer.
No.234958
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>234960
>>234957
I'm not saying any of this is worse, I'm saying it's more of the same.
No.234960
Anonymous
>>234958
"more of the same"? How? Convergence is leading to the end of the New52 brand, with post-Convergence books emphasizing "story over continuity." Admittedly, I don't know well that idea will be executed, but the fact that DiDio and company are saying something like this AT ALL gives me some hope.
No.234961
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>234960
How can you believe DIDIO?!?!? When I was 15 HE WAS SAYING THE SAME SHIT.
No.234962
Anonymous
Replies:>>234963
>>234961
People change? Crazy, I know.
No.234963
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>234962
If you think Didio has changed at all, you are a complete fucking moron and deserve to lose every penny he wrings out of you.
No.234966
Anonymous
Replies:>>234968
>>234963
hahaha Jesus I know DiDio made some boneheaded decisions, but do YOU even believe what you're saying?
No.234968
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>234966
I think it's ridiculous that anyone still falls for it, I got fucked by DC for years before i figured out every "big earth shattering event" is more of the same shit with the added bonus of ruining what you are reading, they are no different now than they were in 2005 and once they fuck you in the ass enough times maybe you'll wise up.

Not that Marvel is any better, poor Miles, he has yet to have a series not get ruined by this shit.
No.234969
Anonymous
Replies:>>234970
>>234968
I get what you're saying, I just think being this mad at something that's not even out yet is kind of silly.

Also, DC is employing a lot more woman and non-white creators. Can you imagine that happening in 2005?
No.234970
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>234971
>>234969
Those hires are great and definitely a heartening step in the right direction, but DC has one of the most notorious histories of mistreating it's creators in the entire industry, many of those horror stories coming out of just the last two years, once DC proves it can treat it's creators well then it can have some credit for that.
No.234971
Anonymous
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>>234970
Fair enough. I still think DC is (very, VERY) slowly learning from its mistakes and taking baby steps to reach out to other demographics. Or it got better PR, whichever explanation works.
No.234973
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>234974
>>234971
People actually went to Man Of Steel, DC's PR is Godlike in that they somehow manage to make everyone forget everything about what the just said and did despite it making everyone miserable.

It works but with each passing disappointment the general populace hates and misunderstands everything about DC more and more, at least Marvel is able to capitalize and gain in public perception unlike DC which has consistently lost popularity and gained negativity since the death of Superman.
No.234974
Anonymous
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>>234973
I liked Man of Steel.

...

This argument won't end well, will it?
No.234976
Anonymous
Replies:>>234977
>>234960
They've been trumpeting "story over continuity" for ever and ever, and mostly it just means that the stories that you liked get crapped on.
No.234977
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>234984
>>234974
Even if you liked Man Of Steel, from both a comicbook and movie standard it was an objectively mediocre movie sprinkled with disgusting insulting moments like Johnathan's death.

>>234976
I'm a 25 year old grade school teacher, they've been promising it since I was in high-school, I can actively remember a Dan Didio promise of the same shit running concurrently with the Naruto anime coming out and the whole school blowing up with love for Naruto.
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Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>234977

Don’t forget about what passes for ‘romance’ in the DC Cinematic Galaxy.
No.234985
Anonymous
>>234984
I do adored the Jimmy stand in and the "he saved us" bit while the entire city is a pile.
No.234986
Anonymous
>>234984
In fairness, they've had, what, only a single film to judge the entire thing by?
No.234988
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>234986
4, despite not being canonical the entire universe is based on TDK trilogy, which is the worst thing you could use to build DC characters on.
No.234989
Anonymous
>>234988
Especially when Rises was terrible. They need to realize there's more to that trilogy than grimdarkness.
No.235000
Anonymous
>>234986
Man of Steel shares a lot of staff with the Nolan trilogy, so they half-count as part of the DCCU at this point, even if they're not canon storywise.
No.235002
Anonymous
Replies:>>235005
//youtube.com/watch?v=11j7WUFaTVgyoutube thumb

I like this way of doing a darker Justice League, with characters that are Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in name only with totally different backstories instead of just going the "One bad day" route.
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The Sneaky Tiki
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>>235002
What is REALLY weird, is it takes a lot of beats from the The German Expressionist Elseworld trilogy consisting of Metropolis, The Blue Amazon and Batman: Nosferatu.
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Jumpman
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Since this appears to be the new DC general...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-entertainment-and-warner-bros-launch-dc-super-hero-girls-initiativ

>DC Entertainment and Warner Bros. are teaming up to launch "DC Super Hero Girls" in fall 2015, a new initiative that will create a new superhero universe designed specifically for girls.

The comic book industry continues to realize there's a market in courting women to comics.
No.235020
Jumpman
>>235019
The timing for this is significant, as Disney is currently getting creamed for omitting Black Widow from Avengers merchandise (again).

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/47741/20150421/draft-disney-fails-women-again-age-of-ultron-merchandise-doesnt-feature-black-widow.htm
No.235021
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235019
I'm way down for this.
No.235022
Anonymous
Replies:>>235023
What ever happened to that DC superhero show Lauren Faust was doing?
No.235023
Jumpman
>>235022
DC Nation is dead and so is Super Best Friends Forever. Faust is working on Wander Over Yonder for Disney and an animated movie for Sony called Medusa.
No.235024
Anonymous
>>235023
Fuck this noise. Hope she has better luck there.
No.235025
Anonymous
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>>235023
>an animated movie for Sony called Medusa.
I'm really hoping it turns out to be something other than yet another Wicked clone.
No.235028
Anonymous
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>>235019
I feel like this is a good idea that corporate assholes are going to turn into a disgustingly insultingly sexist line. I want to be optimistic for it, but the art style and Mattel both make me wonder how much of this is genuine integration and how much is just the Girl Legos all over again.
No.235029
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>235028

A better idea: not segregating the women into their own separate "universe" and just, y'know, giving them good stories from the best talent on the DC "roster".
No.235031
Anonymous
>>235029
This isn't for women, this is for 6-12 year old kids. Better stories are also being promised.
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Anonymous
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>>235025
Or Maleficent for that matter.

>>235029
Same here. There's been a fair increase in competent series aimed women as of late, but the real barrier that ought to be crossed is in making women-centric series that are marketed and appeal towards both gender audiences. Steven Universe and arguably Korra have been doing decently in that regard so it's not like it's an intractable problem, but tell that to the bigwigs up at top.
No.235033
Anonymous
Replies:>>235036
>>235032
>Or Maleficent for that matter.
It's the same concept in a different structure. Villainess isn't really evil, just misunderstood. Same with Frozen in a way. Especially if you look at the source material.

But at least with Medusa there's actual reasoning behind it rather than 'we want to write this being of supernatural evil to be a good guy'.
No.235036
Anonymous
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>>235033
Yeah, Medusa always sort of got the short end of the stick traditionally. For her the foundation's all there already.
No.235047
The Sneaky Tiki
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This is gonna be great.
No.235049
Anonymous
>>235047
I appreciate that her skirt is incorporating more of an ancient Greek soldier motif, but man that Bucky creature reminds me of Meelo in all sorts of bad ways.
No.235051
Alpharius
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>>234921
Wonder Woman is awesome. Swords are awesome. That costume is awesome. I see no problem with that at least. I eagerly await the fanart.
No.235055
T4 was here
>>235036
Wonder if they are going to bring up that she is Pegasus's mom.
No.235057
Anonymous
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>>235047
Isn't that the old cancelled Wonder Woman pitch that eventually got retooled into Wednesday Comics?
No.235061
Anonymous
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>>235051
It's a fantastic costume. I'm just not sure it's a great Wonder Woman costume, though it's aesthetically more pleasing than most of her previous ones. I guess a good way to put it is Tim Drake wearing Ollie's costume or something. Good design, but unfitting.
No.235062
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>235057
Unfortunately yes.

>>235061
At least they actually got her colors right.
No.235078
Anonymous
Replies:>>235080
>>235062
Oh, I thought you were talking about Jill Thompson's new book. I guess Ben Caldwell should try that pitch again, he might have better traction this time around.
No.235080
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235078
I thought I was at the time, I was mistaken, but yeah I'd love to see a Ben Caldwell Wonder Woman.
No.235099
Jumpman
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Someone tell Frank Miller to stop.
No.235102
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235099
Eeeesh, after Holy Terror how does anyone justify giving him work?
No.235104
The Sneaky Tiki
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Hate eats men alive.
No.235105
Anonymous
>>235099
But maybe ze Batfuhrer of der Waynesreich will show us all how we were wrong to question Frank's STRONG AMERICAN JUSTICE VALUES OF FREEDOM AND NOT ISLAM.
No.235106
Anonymous
>>235099
I'm being cut by all this edge.
No.235107
Anonymous
DC- Keeping on the "bury Lois and Clark as a romantic couple because Woman of Kleenex" until people stop giving them money.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/24/what-has-dc-comics-done-to-lois-lane/
No.235108
Anonymous
>>235107
I'm hoping this is some Superdickery-level fakeout. Because if that's the case... wow what the fuck.
No.235110
Jumpman
>>235107
Yeah, not loving what I'm seeing at all. And I doubt it will end well, given DC's horrid history with Lois.
No.235111
Anonymous
Lemme guess he's going to go all Fight Club and get a personality disorder over all this. Edgy superman is shit. Sad and morose Clark because of loss or feelings that he's lost is fine. But "Street Justice" Superman..eh.
No.235179
Anonymous
Replies:>>235180
Wow, Convergence really is literally Countdown: Arena done over again isn't it?

What a turd.
No.235180
Anonymous
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>>235179
>Countdown: Arena
What was that?
No.235183
Anonymous
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>>235180
Terrible. It was terrible.
No.235186
Anonymous
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>>235183
What was it about I mean.
No.235192
Anonymous
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>>235186
A bunch of guys from various places in the multiverse (ie different popular stories) beating the crap out of each other because some guy told them to.
No.235195
Anonymous
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>>235192
Sounds like Avengers Arena.
No.235198
Anonymous
>>235195
It sounds like a lot of things.
No.235217
The Sneaky Tiki
It's all the same garbage really, it's the comicbook equivalent of a shonen tournament arc, except with no fun power-ups and your favorite characters get brutally murdered and disrespected only to be resurrected and pissed on more later.

In shonen they just skip the death and SRSBSNS tone.
No.235218
The Sneaky Tiki
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I'm actually kinda excited for Bizarro.
No.235219
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>235220
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/23/convergence-a-comic-book-retailer-speaks/
No.235220
Anonymous
Replies:>>235221
>>235219
I think people are burned out on the big events.
No.235221
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235220
They are, but the marketing is TERRIBLE on Convergence, furthermore it's a cancellation of most surefire sellers from DC for 2 months.

It's a countdown level error.
No.235335
Jumpman
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/51110/20150506/interview-with-batman-earth-one-volume-2-writer-geoff-johns-and-artist-gary-frank.htm

I forgot the Earth One books were still a thing. Superman Earth One: Volume Three got released this year, but I haven't heard a peep about it.

Marvel actually had the best approach to this with its Season One books, but unfortunately, they were only used as Beginner's Guides.
No.235515
Jumpman
Gerry Conway mades a public apology to Geoff Johns, Dan DiDio, Jim Lee, and Larry Ganem.


http://gerryconway.tumblr.com/post/119133162738/a-public-apology-to-geoff-johns-dan-didio-jim
No.235567
The Sneaky Tiki
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Wow this is a terrible costume.

I think I'll show Prez and Bizarro support though, that level of fun nd creative NEEDS to be rewarded, they are the best thing since the reboot by a country mile.
No.235570
Anonymous
>>235567
That's the new design for Green Lantern? What the fuck.
No.235571
Anonymous
>>235567
that is really '90s
No.235603
The Sneaky Tiki
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Jisoo Kim's Wonder Woman is buttons adorable and makes me miss Perez Wonder Woman.
No.235605
Anonymous
>>235603
Oh geez. She's super cute!
No.235626
Alpharius
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>>235603
She's adorable! Is there gonna be a WW comic series that is going to use that art-style? I'd differently read it if there is.
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The Sneaky Tiki
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>>235626
Nope, unfortunately, DC thinks Wonder Woman should be a vicious murderer who kills everything that looks at her cockeyed rather than the princess of peace like she actually should be.

We'll never see Wonder Woman being anything but Murder Woman under the current leadership.
No.235628
Alpharius
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>>235627
Sadness.

Personally, I'm ok with WW being Woman of Murder; It's nice in short burst to get the "why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker?" taste out of my mouth. But not utilizing your mutliverse to show the kinder/softer side of her is a waste of potential.
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The Sneaky Tiki
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>>235628
The Big Three are all fucked up, Superman and Wonder Woman, the two of the three that should most refrain from killing are now more than happy enough to kill and destroy while Batman is literally laughable, plus I can't think of a book that exists that is more insulting than Superman/Wonder Woman, I'd sooner read fucking Bomb queen.
No.235631
Anonymous
Replies:>>235633
>>235630
Tiki, I'm starting to think this is more on you when you compare Bomb Queen favorably to anything. Superman/Wonder Woman is shit, but it's not THAT shit.
No.235632
Anonymous
Replies:>>235633
>>235630
>The Big Three are all fucked up, Superman and Wonder Woman, the two of the three that should most refrain from killing are now more than happy enough to kill
Where are you getting this? Seriously, where? As awful as Finch's WW is, it still doesn't feature Diana killing people left and right. And the Superman books have been pretty decent for a while, but you would know this if, oh I don't know, you ACTUALLY READ THE COMICS. Or at the very least did some quick research.
No.235633
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>235640
>>235632
Man, I have been reading with a seething anger that is not healthy since 2005, if anything I should REALLY stop, I know WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much, I have seen each character ruining moment in agony.

>>235631
Bombqueen would feel less like pulling my own fingernails off because I already hate Bombqueen so it's not like watching something I love get turned into something I loathe.

TL;DR This is me expressing immense frustration more so than actual criticism of comics that are not actually terrible, but PAINFULLY PAINFULLY mediocre comics that miss the point of the characters their about completely.
No.235634
Anonymous
Replies:>>235635
...
how's the art at least.
No.235635
Anonymous
>>235634
I personally think the art style is not bad, but there's so much homogeny throughout the DC comics that there's no enjoyment to get out of it.
No.235638
Anonymous
Replies:>>235639
>>235603
>>235627
This doesn't look mature enough to be Wonder WOMAN.

Not in the blood and sex way, just... she doesn't look old enough.
Be a good look for Diana as Wonder Girl, tho.
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The Sneaky Tiki
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>>235638
It is Diana as a teen.
No.235640
Anonymous
>>235633
>Bombqueen would feel less like pulling my own fingernails off because I already hate Bombqueen so it's not like watching something I love get turned into something I loathe.

This is basically where I've been with DC after what they did to Justice League International (I am still butthurt over Max Lord and Ted Kord).

And let's not even get into that puppet-corpse they brought in for "the New 52"
No.235677
Anonymous
Wait, so did convergence undo every crisis ever?. I can't tell how dumb that is.
No.235678
Anonymous
Is this a DC general thread? I recently found out the Batman Beyond soundtrack kicks serious ass.

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Jumpman
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/56576/20150529/new-dc-ad-layout-irks-comics-artists-and-fans.htm

The comic book equivalent of a pop-up ad/
No.235714
Anonymous
Replies:>>235720
>>235711
Holy hell, that's just intrusive as fuck, not to mention the inconvenience it causes on the artists. The companies better ditch this before their own staffers revolt.
No.235720
Anonymous
Replies:>>235734
>>235714
Or just face it that Marvel was never good and DC is dead since the beginning of New 52.
No.235721
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235711
Leave it to fucking DC.

RESET THE CLOCK! (it's only been two days)
No.235725
Anonymous
Replies:>>235726
>>235711
Goddamn, one step forward two steps back. I thought everybody understood those died because they were shitty.
No.235726
Anonymous
>>235725
Thing is: They didn't die in, normal, non-comics magazines. They have those all over the place.
No.235734
Anonymous
Replies:>>235740
>>235720
Wait Marvel's been doing these too?
No.235740
Anonymous
>>235734

No, that was just the standard "Marvel sucks, DC sucks, so who cares if one of them do something bad" post.
No.235748
T4 was here
I heard good things abouts, looks fun.
//youtube.com/watch?v=3B3xDLdiFxgyoutube thumb
But then again, I do love toys~
No.235750
Anonymous
>>235748
Can't unimagine Batman vs. Master Shake.
No.235754
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235748
Holy shit that animation quality fell down some STEEP stairs.
No.235755
Anonymous
Replies:>>235756
>>235748
What the fuck is wrong with Batman's chin?
No.235756
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235755
Why is green arrow's hood 2d?
No.235902
Anonymous
Replies:>>235903
So Action Comics was great and pretty much disproved the "edgy grimdarkness" accusations. A lot of the new comics were also good, such as Justice League, Midnighter, Green Arrow and Bizarro.
No.235903
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>235905
>>235902
I must admit from what I've read things are getting better even if I have a PASSIONATE hatred for every story leading up to these books.

But WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE ART?! All these books have sub-webcomic art.
No.235905
Anonymous
Replies:>>235907
>>235903
>But WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE ART?! All these books have sub-webcomic art
hahaha what?

The ONLY comic that kind of fits that description is Bizarro, and its art doesn't look all that different from DC's other kid-friendly books.

Kurder (Action) and Fabok (JL) don't put out stuff that resembles typical webcomic art at all. While Green Arrow and Midnighter definitely had some Poser-y art, the latter had great panel layouts and the former was competent enough.
No.235907
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>235913
>>235905
GL and Action have FUCKING TERRIBLE art, I dunno about Bizarro or JL yet, Bizarro I'll comment on but I'm not touch JL with a 50 foot pole.
No.235910
The Sneaky Tiki
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Bizarro's art is AMAZING, it's heavily stylized with cartoon propotions, it's easily got the best art of anything I've read thus far.
No.235913
Anonymous
Replies:>>235920
>>235907
>GL and Action have FUCKING TERRIBLE art
I've not read GL, but what don't you like about Action's art?

>I'm not touch JL with a 50 foot pole.
JL has gotten a lot better, especially since Wonder Woman is faaaar better written there then she is in her current book.
No.235920
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>235913
Well lets start with GL, this page is comparable to the same from Bizarro, it's a full body introduction shot, admitintly the pencils might be better but this just looks awful.
No.235921
The Sneaky Tiki
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looking at Action again the art is actually really good on everything besides faces and my memory was simply clouded by bad face, holy shit the faces are bad.

(MAN, I fucking HATE the New52 Superman cast of characters, so fucking awful, people who were talking shit about Supergirl's Jimmy look at this garbage.)

At least Bizarro is the shining star of my enjoyment, looking forward to Prez.
No.235922
Anonymous
Replies:>>235923
>>235921
yeah how dare Jimmy still be a friend to Clark after the secret identity revelation.
No.235923
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>235925
>>235922
I'm talking about Jimmy being a bro dude dude bro bro
No.235925
Anonymous
>>235923
He's really not.
No.235930
Anonymous
Replies:>>235938
>>235921
At first I thought it was the usual Tiki hyperbole but wow you really weren't kidding about the faces.
GL doesn't seem too bad, although the the Heavy Weapons Guy proportions, alien guy's dislocated waist, and 90s aesthetic are offputting.
No.235938
The Sneaky Tiki
>>235930
Suction cup feet, the 90' truest staple.
No.235939
Anonymous
Replies:>>235948
I honestly don't see what's so bad about the faces in Action.
No.235948
Anonymous
>>235939
Can't quite put it into words but they look very derpy to me.
No.236048
Anonymous
//youtube.com/watch?v=tpu6yPAFHrsyoutube thumb

The first episode of Justice League: Gods and Monsters Chronicles.
No.236069
Anonymous
>>236048
Clumsy as hell and a bit embarrassing, but... I don't know, there has to be something good to be said here.
No.236070
Anonymous
>>236048
How do you make vampire batman that lame? Like how do you fuck up a design so badly?
No.236073
Anonymous
>>236048
Here's the second short

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYSxN4ezhO4
No.236086
Anonymous
>>236048
That was seriously underwhelming. Tried too hard to go gritty but nothing really interesting to offer. I'm surprised it's actually from Timm, although I guess Dini was the bigger powerhouse in the DCAU.
No.236091
Anonymous
>>236073
Well... that was better than the Batman one, at least.

But it reminds me of how badly Chris Kent ended up treated by DC editorial.
No.236092
Anonymous
>>236073
Cool that Waller became la presidente. Can't think of any other normie in the DCverse who'd be in a better position for it. Can't help but feel like this whole short was aimed at people who didn't like Man of Steel.
No.236129
Anonymous
//youtube.com/watch?v=fOWLqnjFN64youtube thumb

This one is considerably less dark than the other two, featuring the adventures of space barbarian Wonder Woman and her secret agent boyfriend.
No.236131
Anonymous
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>>236129
Well, I guess this will please /pco/ regulars alongside /co/ prime.
No.236139
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>236143
>>236131

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww hell.
No.236142
Anonymous
I herd that the new wonder woman is a pervert
No.236143
Anonymous
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>>236131
>>236139
No.236144
Anonymous
>>236129
Fight scene was OK, and Gigantia has a neat design aside from the pointless robo-nipples. Still not very good and the sex jokes were cringeworthy as fuck. This whole entire thing reeks of "look how 'mature' we are!" and the Superman one was the best of the lot because it went the least overboard with it, though it still suffered from not being very interesting.
No.236145
Anonymous
Replies:>>236146
>>236129
Is that supposed to be Artemis?
No.236146
Anonymous
>>236145
Wait shit, nevermind I'm stupid. Don't remember Bekka looking like that though.
No.236147
Anonymous
Apparently Bruce Timm can't write for shit even though he can draw. I hope the full movie or whatever this is gearing up to ends up better than these clips.
No.236154
Anonymous
Replies:>>236161
>>236147
That's what Paul Dini was for, really. They were the Bald and Piglike of their time.
No.236161
Anonymous
>>236147
>>236154
Isn't one of the other big Batman writers also doing work on this?
No.236262
The Sneaky Tiki
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NOW THIS I'M INTERESTED IN!
No.236263
MESIAS
Replies:>>236366
>>236262
I'll give it a try as well.
It gives me vibes of Shin Kamen Rider.
No.236266
Anonymous
Replies:>>236366
>>236262
Wow a redesign that's radical without being dumb. I'm impressed.
No.236267
Anonymous
>>236262
I'm going to keep missing Neanderskull Operacape MM forever...
No.236268
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>236267
They are REALLY pushing the Alien angle so I think that design works a lot better for this kind of a story.
No.236269
The Sneaky Tiki
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No.236270
The Sneaky Tiki
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No.236271
The Sneaky Tiki
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Apparently in this version J'onn got magic'd to earth by an amateur magician who looked after him and used him in his acts before dying.
No.236272
The Sneaky Tiki
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J'onn apparently took it pretty hard and slept until this story starts, aquiring amnesia in the process from being idle for so long.
No.236276
Anonymous
>>236262
Looks kind of like Samus's armor. I like it.
No.236363
The Sneaky Tiki
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YO PREZ, MARTIAN MANHUNTER AND BIZARRO ARE ACTUALLY GOOD AND DON'T FILL ME WITH A SEETHING MURDEROUS RAGE!
No.236364
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>236363
No.236365
Anonymous
Replies:>>236366
>>236363
Martian Manhunter had really bad solicits. It's surprising how interesting it turned out to be.
No.236366
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>236365
It's a very simple idea that does away with the childhood like simplicity Martians have had in the past of Green = Good, White = Bad.

It reminds of Morrison's work.

>>236263
>>236266
Sadly just cover art

>>236267
Guess not.
Replies:>>236478
>>234920

And with blood on his fists. Classy.
I'm so glad I dropped DC after new52 like a ton of bricks. I am fine with only following their animated universe.
No.236478
Anonymous
>>236472
That's not blood, that's parts of his cape.
No.236593
Anonymous
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//youtube.com/watch?v=JldMIRx3w-4youtube thumb

Based Hamill.
No.236605
Anonymous
>>236593
Hamill you motherfucker. You said you'd never come back.
LOL. I bet if he was real, he had a lot of imitators too...
No.236633
Anonymous
Replies:>>236634
>>236593
This is so Adam West its wonderful.
No.236634
Anonymous
>>236633
Only somehow Arkham Joker still manages to be more gay than Cesar Romero.
No.236663
Anonymous
Be something if Arkham Beyond comes out and part of Bats story is that he could no longer do the job because he couldn't trust that he'd always be in control.
No.237037
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
DC announced several new animated films at Comic-Con. Amongst them is an animated adaption of arguably the best-known Batman comic of them all: The Killing Joke.

HAMILL AS JOKER OR I GIVE NO FUCKS.
No.237042
Anonymous
>>237037
Hamill is too old to play Joker in the flashbacks though. Since he'd have to use his normal voice.
No.237044
Anonymous
Replies:>>237049
>>237037
Is Jason Todd going to be in there?
No.237049
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>237044

I have no idea. Though they are making a new prologue exclusive to the film, so who knows.
No.237062
Jumpman
Replies:>>237065
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No.237065
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>237062

>Leto!Joker in the bottom-left corner

WAT
No.237327
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Mark Hamill apparently wants to do Joker's voice one more time, this time for the upcoming Killing Joke animated adaptation.

I say let him do it and then let him fucking retire his Joker voice once and for all.
No.237339
Anonymous
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So what do you guys think of Morrison's vagina-inspired Invisible Jet that will appear in Wonder Woman: Earth One?

It's the shiny white flying thing in the upper middle portion of this pic that looks like a cross between a helicarrier and a cravat.
No.237340
Anonymous
>>237339
It's pretty cool. Not much else to say besides that.
No.237344
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>237366
>>237339
I think it's rad. more stuff should be modeled after vaginas, lord knows way too much is modeled after penis.
No.237345
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>237339

I read about his plans for Wonder Woman. He sounds like he has a real grasp on how to set Wonder Woman apart from other modern comics of its ilk, and I'm really interested in seeing what he does with this run.
No.237355
Anonymous
>>237339
Why does she even need an Invisible Jet anyway? People always made fun of her for it unless he's trying to use it ironically.
No.237357
The Sneaky Tiki
>>237355
Because despite being able to fly she can't fly fast and an invisible jet is REALLY useful for not being spotted.
No.237358
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
>>237355
>>237357
And even though she has super strength, she can carry a lot more stuff and people in a jet than in her arms.
No.237359
Anonymous
>>237357
>she can't fly fast
She can fly fast because of Hermes' gift
>and an invisible jet is REALLY useful for not being spotted.
Yeah. You can't see the jet but you could always see her sitting inside of it.
No.237362
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
Replies:>>237370
>>237359
>Yeah. You can't see the jet but you could always see her sitting inside of it.
Not in any version written recently.
No.237364
The Sneaky Tiki
>>237359
You are literally considering Superfriends canon.
No.237366
Anonymous
>>237344
Doors are basically vaginas. And life has many doors, Tiki-Boy.
No.237367
Anonymous
>>237364
I wouldn't mind more King Plasto, with recent advances in materials science I think there's a lot going for the idea of a guy who makes a kingdom out of plastics. That assassin who really hates Worcestershire sauce not so much.
No.237370
Anonymous
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>>237362
The last time the jet has even been used was for Steve Trevor's JLA as a flying cargo plane turned into a base. I don't think they even given Wonder Woman a invisible jet in comics for over a decade since she can fly.
>>237364
This was happening when it was still just a plane long before the Superfriends existed. Even the 70s TV show had her in a see-through plane.
No.237398
The Sneaky Tiki
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OH MY GOD, I LIKE A DC BOOK! NO CAVEATS, IT'S JUST A FUCKING INCREDIBLE BOOK!

Okay so the gist is that the Martian Manhunter we knew was never "real" he was an engineered super powered White Martian sleeper agent sent to spy on Super Heroes as they quietly seeded White Martians whose transformation tech is so good that in human for they are undetectable, somewhere along the way he actually became a superhero before the signal for war came down, he could feel that signal driving him to murder everyone like the other sleepers have already started to do and understanding how much more powerful he is than the entire Justice League he took himself out, the fake hero becoming a true one in death.
No.237399
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>237398
Using the tech that brought him to Earth no less, it never worked originally either, just staged to be in the realm of believability.

Also Mr. Biscuits continues to be the best character ever and is Somehow psychically linked to The Pearl (Think Catwoman from Dubai) and Martian Manhunter, at least until he killed himself.
No.237401
The Sneaky Tiki
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This is the aforementioned Pearl, it seems she's The only White Martian not to activate, furthermore it seems Mr. Biscuits is the only real Green Martian.
No.237402
The Sneaky Tiki
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Mr. Buscuits is the hero we need and deserve.
No.237453
Jumpman
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/71644/20150724/interview-brenden-fletcher-and-annie-wu-discuss-black-canary-and-rock-n-roll.htm

I really love the punk art style this comic has.
No.237762
Anonymous
I JUST WANT MORE MARTIAN MANHUNTER ALREADY
No.237987
Anonymous
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HOLY SHIT GOOD COSTUMES! They must be just for the cover or something, they look to sensible for DC to actually make canon.
No.238111
Anonymous
Replies:>>238114
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/132994-the-end-is-near-bleeding-cool-says-dc-comics-is-behind-projected-revenue-by-2-million.html


Surprise Surprise Convergence was a catastrophic financial failure.
No.238112
Anonymous
Replies:>>238122
DC is literally betting all their money on Frank Miller's Dark Night 3 The Master Race...holy shit
No.238113
Anonymous
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/26/dc-comics-to-enter-an-austerity-regime-cancelled-titles-reduced-page-rates-more-ads/
No.238114
Anonymous
Replies:>>238115
>>238111
>doubling down on the grimdark
>relyiing on Frank Miller of all people
Holy shit DC get your act together.
No.238115
Anonymous
>>238114
4 years of being a clusterfuck is finally catching up.
No.238116
Anonymous
Replies:>>238118
Where's jumpman? this is the kind of complete corporate failure he loves.
No.238118
Jumpman
Replies:>>238119
>>238116
?
No.238119
Anonymous
Replies:>>238120
>>238118
Is it just Marvel failure you like?
No.238120
Jumpman
>>238119
I don't jerk off to any failures.
No.238121
Jumpman
Replies:>>238128
Anyway, whether the rumors are true or not, DC being in a pitiful state while Marvel is ranking in the big bucks just highlights how much DC screwed up with the reboot. Blew their chances starting off fresh and blew their chance of being competitive.
No.238122
Anonymous
Replies:>>238127
>>238112
>DC is literally betting all their money on Frank Miller's Dark Night 3 The Master Race...holy shit
Is that the actual name of the book or has Frank Miller's actually become a parody of himself?
No.238127
Anonymous
>>238122
Both.
No.238128
Anonymous
>>238121
Reboot is just so strange tones that varied wildly from comics to comics and the mandates that cripple long term character development (and by that reader interest). Really I've found Street Level Supes to be the most interesting thing they've done. Its pretty much "What if Clark didn't hide and was just himself"
No.238130
Anonymous
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http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2015/07/09/dc-entertainment-provides-new-details-for-dark-knight-iii-the-master-race
>it's fucking real
>the anons above me aren't just leading people on for shits and giggles
No.238131
rasputin_zero
Replies:>>238132
>>238130
WHORES WHORES WHORES had turned into a punchline ten years ago, what gave DC the mad impression the nutter was still employable?
No.238132
Anonymous
Replies:>>238134
>>238131
He's still been selling books for those ten years?
No.238134
Anonymous
>>238132
Books he made prior to those ten years.
No.238177
Jumpman
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>Not all of the experiments succeed, of course, but the co-publishers said, despite rumors to the contrary, the company’s not backing down from the “DC You” approach.

http://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-entertainment/20150828/dc-comics-home-of-batman-superman-moves-headquarters-to-burbank

Tom Brevoort of Marvel also posted this image, when asked about the recent DC rumors from Bleeding Cool.

http://brevoortformspring.tumblr.com/post/127710904198/youve-in-the-past-said-that-you-dont-want-dc-to
No.238178
Anonymous
>>238177

Also they are moving to Burbank, be interesting to see what happens from there. Means both Marvel and DC and out of New York now. I think only Disney has some offices left there but everyone else is gone.
No.238183
Anonymous
Replies:>>238185
>>238177
I thought they just moved.
No.238185
Anonymous
>>238183
They did, Convergence was basically filler so they'd have time to move.
No.238251
The Sneaky Tiki
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Ma'alefa'ak is back!

Also here is hoping this is Martian Manhunter's new look.
No.238252
The Sneaky Tiki
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Anyone still object to me calling some of DC's art sub-webcomic?
No.238254
Anonymous
>>238252
That looks like Denys Cowan. His art's looked like that for years and years, dude.
No.238255
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>238351
>>238254
That does not excuse an actual comic company putting it out and expecting people to buy it.
No.238256
Anonymous
Replies:>>238258
>>238252
>Anyone still object to me calling some of DC's art sub-webcomic?
I object to it because it implies there's a specific level at which webcomics art is expected to be.
No.238258
Anonymous
>>238256
Yeah. The perception of webcomic art being makeshift is from another generation entirely.
2005 this is not.
No.238300
Anonymous
Replies:>>238301
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Death of Superman Lives!

//youtube.com/watch?v=axQBDtPaw84youtube thumb

Yes, it's the full documentary.

Superman vs. Ninjas!

Robot Owl Nannies!

And more!
No.238301
rasputin_zero
>>238300
There better be a giant spider in the third act...
No.238308
Anonymous
>>238254
Honestly, it's so stylized that I kind of have a hard time criticizing it specifically.
No.238351
Anonymous
>>238252
If it makes you feel any better, that is not the usual artist for that book. While I'm not super into this specific type of art, I'm glad DC is putting out non-house-style artwork.
>>238255
I'll take that guy over Greg Land any day of week.
No.238670
The Sneaky Tiki
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MAN I think I get something about DC now, a problem with a lot of their characters in this feeling like they never really earned what they are, well MM is earning it now goddamn!
No.238671
The Sneaky Tiki
DC finally cancelled Lobo thank god.
No.238675
Sharkman Jhones
Replies:>>238686
>>238671

Was it still young and sexy "this is what fans want" Lobo or actual proper Lobo?
No.238686
Anonymous
Replies:>>238775
>>238671
They also cancelled good stuff like Omega Men, so I'm pretty upset about that.

>>238675
The former.
No.238775
Anonymous
>>238686
Omega Men's been uncancelled by the way.
No.238804
Anonymous
So apparently, in addition to being a black kid who hates the Flash, New 52 Wally West is also gay.

It honestly feels kinda like the Ship of Theseus here. How many parts of a thing can you change and claim that it is still the same thing, y'know?
Like, if they wanted a gay black Flash... why the hell didn't they just come up with a new damn name for him when he has nothing in common with the old character but the most superficial interchangeable bit, the name Wally West.
No.238805
The Sneaky Tiki
>>238804
It's really baffling honestly.
No.238807
Anonymous
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>>238804
I really don't mind Wally being black, and honestly I could buy him even being gay under another writer. But I pity whoever has to follow Venditti and Booth; they have absolutely no idea what they're doing and they're just making this huge jumbled mess of a story. The Finches are awful too, but they can at least partially blame WW's editorial.
No.238810
Anonymous
>>238804
They want the recognition the character has, if they had to start with a new flash that was a nobody they'd never get any press since he wasn't "real".
No.238811
Anonymous
>>238804
He's also still Iris's nephew. But basically this. Progress is great, but when you're going to change this much about a character, especially one people liked, it would've been just better to make a new one and focus on them instead.
While I'm not a fan of racebending and all that jazz, at the end of the day I can learn to get used to it if it's done well. But what bothers me about the new Wally is that EVERYTHING took a huge 180 turn, especially the stuff that really matters like his personality and history. Now he's an unlikable jerk and his stereotype background cancels out any goodwill they were hoping to achieve with the change. They could've at least used a modern day Jenni Ognats or something.
No.238820
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>238821
>>238807
They are really terrible and yeah you can piece it together what they were trying to do, Turn him black = Connect him to Iris Allen on the show which makes little sense considering comics Iris is still white, Gay = naked grab for more attention as well as their own spin.

What gets me though is that it has some really racist connotations of "white republican sorts out troubled black youth."
No.238821
Anonymous
Replies:>>238822
>>238820
Wait, is Barry still in favour of the death penalty in the brave new world of his dad being found guilty of murder?

That's... fucked up.
No.238822
The Sneaky Tiki
>>238821
Presently yeah, DC still classifies most of their non-Green Arrow characters as republicans.
No.239037
T4 was here
http://www.therobotsvoice.com/2015/10/dc-super-hero-girls-reveals-first-animation-figures-dolls.php
Going after that Monster High money aye~
No.239038
Anonymous
Replies:>>239324
I stopped reading DC round 2005, but it seems like they've been pushing Katana really hard since then. Don't really know why since her backstory, abilities, and design seem pretty dull. If it's about Asian representation then Cassie Cain or Lady Shiva (she's not that much more cliche than Katana) would've also been great.
No.239320
MESIAS
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/nycc-new-dc-super-hero-girls-episodes-debut-online
*shudder*
At least Amanda Waller looks more like old pre-nu52 self.
No.239324
Anonymous
Replies:>>239404
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>>239038
>Cassie Cain
She was part of the group that they didn't want to bring back but then they did. Be glad she was part of the Batfam or they would have screwed up her debut like they did with Donna Troy.
>Lady Shiva
IMO choosing Katana or Lady Shiva is like Marvel choosing Iron Fist over Shang-chi. Her backstory is less dull than Lady Shiva and people like katanas, plus I think they don't want a girl who is a better fighter than Batman.

And if they actually wanted to push her, they wouldn't have given her this design
No.239342
Anonymous
Good god, her torso appears to have become detached from her pelvis.
No.239404
MESIAS
>>239324
Is this a new Mortal Kombat charcter?
No.240821
T4 was here
Replies:>>240823
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So Starfire "speaks" Dolphin now?
Well that makes sense.
No.240823
Anonymous
>>240821
Canonically, I think that means she made out with a dolphin at some point.
No.240824
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>240829
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>>240823
No.240825
Anonymous
>>240823
Wonder if its the same dolphin that told Aquaman that Batman was doing it in the ocean.
No.240829
Anonymous
Replies:>>240877
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>>240824
Not really anything that hasn't been part of her character since day 1.
No.240877
T4 was here
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>>240829
That what I/we love about her.
To bad today climate is not okay with that(because of character updates and development not swj btw, unless they hate naturism) or as we saw in Red Hood and Outlaws, cant pull it off.

The way I would sell it would be to make more funny, less sexy.
But I guess thats what her new comic is doing.
No.241242
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>241249
"The past few years have been difficult for DC Comics. Since the boom of the New 52, which per DC’s own estimates increased their readership by 25% in terms of lapsed readers and 5% of new readers, things have gotten a good deal uglier. In November 2015, DC held a retail market share of 26.35% to Marvel’s 43.2%. If it wasn’t for Dark Knight III: The Master Race, DC wouldn’t have even appeared in the Diamond Top 10 that month. In October, things were even worse, with DC holding only a 21.85% retail market share. Sadly, while the “DC You” initiative from this past June launched several critically acclaimed series including Midnighter, Prez, and Omega Men, none of these new series have become commercial successes."

Well gee whiz DC, it's almost as if you drove off your previous sustainable fanbase for a small spike in new readers and mostly people who just wanted to see what was going on.

Then POOF, they were gone~along with a third of the pre-52 fanbase~
No.241243
The Sneaky Tiki
>More concerning for DC, though, is the fact that they only got nine slots in the top fifty comics – and only one of them was a non-Batman book (I’m counting Harley Quinn as part of the wider Batman universe). What’s more, only one non-Batman book sold over 50,000 copies. It’s true that DC had a tough month – yet again, Marvel were flooding the market with first issues – but they clearly need to strengthen the rest of their comic franchises.

Ouch.
No.241244
The Sneaky Tiki
Also Ed Berganza continues to be a blight on humanity, though at least not because of rape this time!

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jan/06/social-media-mocks-dc-comics-pakistan-language-pakistanian-superman-wonder-woman?CMP=share_btn_fb
No.241249
Anonymous
Replies:>>241253
>>241242
To be fair, their old fanbase was shrinking already and absolutely wouldn't have bought Midnighter, Prez or Omega Men either. I wasn't a big fan of the New 52, but DC!You doesn't really deserve that ire.

Eddie Berganza really is a monster in human form though. At some point you have to wonder what blackmail he's got that's worth all this.
No.241253
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>241254
>>241249
>but DC!You doesn't really deserve that ire.

It deserves praise is what it deserves, it's just a shame New52 poisoned the well SO FUCKING HARD, Prez and MM are my favorite comics right now.

>>241249
It's literally photographic evidence enough to bring DC down, my guess is he's had others within the company, most likely from the Superman branch, directly implicit in his various sexual crimes.
No.241254
Anonymous
Replies:>>241258
>>241253
Wait what exactly happened?
No.241258
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>241260
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>>241254
Ed Berganza has numerous sexual harassment complaints on file, DC does not disclose the number officially but he has at least 15, it is so bad in fact that currently women are barred from working in the Superman branch of DC and more specifically anywhere near him.

For example, one employee took his wife to an office party, excused himself to the washroom and came back to find to find Ed, despite knowing who she was, attempting to rape her in the middle of the party with everyone trying to ignore it.

When he tried to raise hell about it not DC legal but WB legal fell on him with the full force of God's hammer. He's got dirt from the bottom to the the top, DC and WB. Apparently he frequently drugs and tricks people to gain dirt so people will protect him when he inevitably fucks up. He's a subhuman creature in a man skin.

Oh, and he's a bad editor, Geoff Johns isn't allowed to name him specifically but he has danced around him being the reason why his TT run got so editorially fucked up.
No.241260
rasputin_zero
Replies:>>241262
>>241258
Madre de Dios...

And people let him get away with this shit? There's no way this situation at DC can possibly be sustainable, something's got to give sooner or later.
No.241262
The Sneaky Tiki
>>241260
He's been working at DC for over 15 years, the worst he ever got was a demotion to his regular job 2 years after he had promoted himself in 2012 for "a series of indiscretions" of which included the a fore mention office party rape.

And it's literally just title shuffling, he has the exact same salary and editorial power.
No.241263
T4 was here
Replies:>>241264
And you are not sending this info to all the news and angry tumblr girls why?
No.241264
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>241266
>>241263
That would be defamation of character and draw you into a protected legal battle as it has so many times before, hell one of his victims just went public and couldn't even name him legally.

Besides, everyone knows Berganza is dirt, it's been frequently discussed since Waid's Flash and Johns' TT.
No.241266
T4 was here
Replies:>>241267
>>241264
Okay the news is out, but what about twitter or tumblr?
A hashtag has surprising power now days.
Just look at #gamergate.
Shitshow sure, but it got in the news.
No.241267
rasputin_zero
>>241266
It "got in the news" by publicly demonstrating that a vast swathe of self-designated gamers were exactly the kind of stunted misogynistic manchildren all the tired stereotypes painted them as. If a Twitter mob rose against Berganza, these same misfits would lionize him as a martyr in the battle for men's rights or some bullshit and DC would close ranks around him.

Whether in the service of good or ill, the "power of the hashtag" to force people out of their jobs has rarely amounted to more than jack shit.
No.241354
The Sneaky Tiki
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Fuck, American Alien is trying so hard to get Superman right, Landis just can't leave behind his own stupid shit.

But you see glimmers like this where it's not Superlandis and you realize how much you miss the real Superman.
No.241385
Anonymous
Replies:>>241386
Good writing of him, works well with a boy from Kansas to think that way. Wonder if he'll have words with Bruce after this and then Bruce will go into some things showing that his family had a long history of not going along with that mentality.
No.241386
Anonymous
Replies:>>241388
>>241385
It's a vignette series. The rest of the issue is him having sex with Cheetah and getting drunk, which could be entertaining but comes off as fairly lame.
Replies:>>241389
>>241386
Don't forget that Supervet nonsense, cuz that's totally not Landis projecting being a vegan through Clark's mouth right?
No.241389
Anonymous
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>>241388
That actually seemed fairly in character for a farmboy like Clark. He didn't pull any annoying diatribe about veganism, he just wanted to be a vet because he's had a lot of experience with animals and he wants to be a helpful guardian.
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Anyone care?
Fucksake, 4 Harley Quinn comics, 3 of which are ongoings in April.

None of which are even the good Harley.
No.241486
Anonymous
>>241485
I'm looking forward to this. Might be cool.
>>241485
That looks...pretty fun actually, color me interested.
No.241488
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>241485

Looks better than BvS. Count me in.
No.241489
Anonymous
>>241485
Could be cool.
No.241531
Anonymous
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Mite b cool
No.241532
Anonymous
>>241531
I would ask why it took them so long, but I still remember how abysmal the Marvel Adventures line sold and it saddens me.
Replies:>>241536
>>241531
It's like Bruce Timm and Archie House style had a baby, I'm down!

Oh, also, look, it's the perfect Wonder Woman costume design.
No.241536
Anonymous
Replies:>>241537
>>241534
Also look at the background. Plastic Man, Constantine, Zatanna whole bunch of others that would be cool to make an appearance.
No.241537
Anonymous
Replies:>>241538
>>241536
Booster Gold is apparently going to appear too! I am very pleased!

Wait......is that Magog between Zatanna and Plas?
No.241538
Anonymous
Replies:>>241540
>>241537
Looks like it along with Deadshot and that could be Harley we only see the legs of. Also Conroy is back in the Batman saddle along with Hamill taking up the Joker mantle again for an Animated show is great.
No.241540
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>241542
>>241538

>Conroy is back in the Batman saddle along with Hamill taking up the Joker mantle again

Ugh. Not that this news is a dealbreaker, but Hamill deserves to retire from being Joker after the Arkham game series, and I’ve honestly had enough of Conroy as Batman.
Replies:>>241543
>>241540
I'd have been really excited for Diedrich Bader and Jeff Bennett to return from Brave and The Bold.

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No.241543
Anonymous
>>241542
Same. I love Conroy and Hamill, but I think it's time we let it go.
I enjoyed Bader and Bennett in Brave and the Bold and feel like they would be perfect as Batman and Joker in this.
Bader as Booster Gold isn't a bad choice though.
No.241552
Anonymous
Replies:>>241555
I for one don't understand this idea of tiring of a voice or an actor in general if said actor has done amazingly well for years and continues to do so.
No.241555
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>241558
>>241552

In regards to Hamill and Conroy, my feeling tired of them has to do with them being THE voices of Joker and Batman for over 20 years—and with Conroy specifically, it has to do with him seeming to phone in a lot of his performance in the Arkham games (not to mention his voice feeling out of place with the rest of the cast). Yeah, this is more personal opinion than anything else, but so what? I'd rather see…er, hear someone else get a shot at voicing two of DC’s most famous characters. What’s so bad about that?
No.241558
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
Replies:>>241560
>>241555

Conroy's standin in Origins was pretty lackluster (Troy Baker did a pretty passable Mark Hammill impersonation, though).
No.241560
Anonymous
Replies:>>241572
>>241558

Getting in shape for Star Wars has given him some new life. I say let him swing for the fences since he's feeling up to it again.
No.241572
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
>>241560

He's also been absolutely killing it in The Flash.
//youtube.com/watch?v=JN_r_-OB42Myoutube thumb

You can smell the desperation.
No.242189
T4 was here
/mtv/ may be fucked but atlest we got this.
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