Really I think its not some gag. Heck we've got that cast photo so for this all to be a sham would be some bad play. Would show that this is the best time to be at Cartoon Network as the Animation Department seems to be rising back from its near deathblow back on '10.
Speaking of Dreamworks x Netflix, they have a date for Dragons! //youtube.com/watch?v=EmhN3N1V55s June was what I was expecting. It lets them put out more Puss in Boots in May to have something in between.
>>234826 Yeah, a year before 2. 3 is still a while away, so it makes sense they would spend another season in between 1 and 2. Spend 2015-16 on that, then you can do a between 2 and 3 season for 2017-18 and finish it off just in time for the movie.
>>235092 I didn't like the second Mdgscr movie because they shipped a hippo and a giraffe (thought it was too weird to like). After that, never watched anything from the franchise. But liked the Penguins movie.
>>235077 >It was like 95% jokes, and 5% story. And the jokes were top tier. And thank God it was self-contained. That actually sounds really good. Its like the opening sequence on Madagascar 3. Superb slapstick and chase scenes, absolutely hilarious stuff and the whole theater, including myself, was laughing its ass off. Mostly teenagers too.
But then the story happened and that was all left behind and it kinda fell from there.
I mean, I took that as the number one indicator that no, not all movies should try to be pixar.
>All Hail King Julien nominated for 5 daytime Emmys >"now how does that work for a Netflix show with only 10 episodes, do they get their own category or what" >nah, it's just up there with all the other cartoons >also it won 3 of them Neat. Anyways, as fun as penguins was, I'm kind of glad the recent shakeup at dreamworks (and probably also that penguins did really poorly) put Madagascar 4 on the back burner for now. The character arc for the four main characters is nicely concluded in 3, plus I never hear anyone say those guys are the series' strong point anyway. Clearly this is a franchise that performs better on the small screen .
>>235207 It'll probably be the same set up of chase the man down through various places to get him to take something he doesn't want. They'll just expand on the sets and activities involved. Sprinkle in some characters that don't really fit in the Seus world. A couple awkward pop culture references. And generally forget about the base premise of the tale as a whole.
>>235235 I'd like to think that at the end of every episode when he finally tries the thing, he doesn't automatically love it every time. I think it builds more dramatic suspense of the reaction is always different.
Hulu now has a slew of Cartoon Network/Adult Swim shows. Not everything--no Ed, Edd, and Eddy or Powerpuff Girls, but they have Dexter and Samurai Jack, for instance--but a good deal, including shows I haven't seen but would like to.
Unfortunately, they are all behind a Hulu Plus subscription, and I refuse to pay for something and still have to watch commercials. Oh well. I wish Hulu would do an ad-free sub; even if it was $10 or $15/mo, I would jump on it in a heartbeat.
>>235354 Lucasfilm (the group of people in charge) want complete control of their intellectual property. They want to control who creates what, for which demographic, when, and how. It's not about money, it's about control.
>>235354 you don't need their authorization for such thing, though.the story is available for free, your adaptation is yours. What you aren't allowed to do is making money from it or pretend you came up with anything there.
Kickstarter's typically seen as a place for people/companies without the money for projects to raise said money and get those projects off the ground. (Scott Cawthon, for example, tried to do a Kickstarter for the first FNAF. He got no bites, incidentally.)
Archie doing a Kickstarter when it could likely afford to do this series of comics without a Kickstarter reeks of bullshit.
>from James L. Brooks' lawyer: "show will go on, Harry will not be part of it, wish him the best." This because I wanted what we've always had: the freedom to do other work. Of course, I wish him the very best.
Harry Shearer confirms, in two tweets, that he’ll no longer be a part of The Simpsons. He voiced (amongst other characters) Ned Flanders, Principal Skinner, Mr. Burns, Waylon Smithers, Lenny, Otto, Kent Brockman, Reverend Lovejoy, and Dr. Julius Hibbert.
>>235451 There are either going to be some awkward impersonators, or Springfield will be about one third of the way to being a ghost town. It's not a killing blow like Nancy Cartwright or Dan Castellaneta leaving would be, but it's going to be rough.
The show's renewed until its 28th season, so even if one of the five remaining Main Voices leaves, Fox'll likely hire replacement voices on the cheap to get the show all the way to its (I hope) series finale.
>>235460 I've never found it terribly relatable, but that could just be where I lived.
But my point is, it's just so played out. Gravity falls at least did something interesting with theirs. But having a generic jerky antagonist is more of an annoying distraction at this point. Least to me.
Every season with Captain Murphy is good, even if a few episodes don’t hold up well. Every season without him is…well, to put it plainly, post-Murphy!Sealab is complete horseshit and none of those episodes hold up at all.
And everyone knows the objectively best [adult swim] original is The Venture Bros. (If Season Two of Rick & Morty is as good as or better than Season One, however, Venture Bros. will be knocked off its throne.)
>>235823 Man of Action is terrible. Ben 10 was terrible. Generator Rex was terrible. And Ultimate Spider-Man is mediocre at best. All three shows star asshole protagonists, which is the only character type Man of Action knows how to write for.
Big Hero 6 is the best animated work they've done, but that's only because Disney rewrote their crappy comic into something worth watching.
>>235825 Holy shit I could not disagree with your opinions harder, I thought you might have legitimate grips with them but a general dislike of protagonists for being assholes, especially when the three examples you name are a child, a tween and a teenager WHO IS SPIDER-MAN then you are a huge weenie.
>>235827 >but a general dislike of protagonists for being assholes
Asshole protagonists are great when done right. The three shows I listed are far from getting it right. All three of those characters are just generic personalities only a 90s TV executive high off of Sonic the Hedgehog could love. And Spectacular Spider-Man is a prime example of Spider-Man acting like a jerk, while dealing with the stress of Spider-Man, all while making him a compelling main character to watch. Where as USM (from the first season I watched) is Peter believing he's better than everyone and being an ass for the sake of being an ass.
It's a legitimate complaint, considering Man of Action's big shows all feature unlikable heroes. So I'm not looking forward to Mega Man being Ben 2.0.
Of course, I have other problems with Man of Action besides bad characters. Ben 10 was full of bland character designs and forgettable stories. There was more discussion of the incestious undertones in the first series, than anything that actually happened on the show.
>>235838 No, your argument is nothing but you disliking something. I'm not stupid enough to fight against your opinion especially when, like me, you are so belligerent about your opinions, so why not end it in a joke?
Come on, can you really imagine anything productive being produced by smashing our non-arguments into each other?
>>235842 Fair enough. Although, I am always willing to listen to any opposing side.
I was probably the most supportive of USM during its first season, back when the show was getting hated by the internet 24/7, before it was forgotten. But even at its best moments, the show still had severe problems, with an inconsistent tone and a Peter Parker that didn't act like Peter Parker.
>>235847 >But even at its best moments, the show still had severe problems, with an inconsistent tone and a Peter Parker that didn't act like Peter Parker.
I would have be more forgiving of the show if it wasn't trying so hard to be funny and failing--I don't know if it's the directing, storyboarding, or what, but I can't think of any other cartoon with so many potentially-decent jokes ruined by terrible comedic timing.
I'm actually sorta amazed by how well the Peanuts look in CGI form, but Blue Sky has never had a problem with its visuals. Writing, however, it where Blue Sky struggles the most. Horton Hear a Who looked beautiful and had some great mannerism, but the comedy was meeeeeeh.
So I'm watching Clone Wars 2008, and...while I like it so far, it's got some of what I hated about the movie. Is there a point later on where the droids stop being so juvenile? They never talked this much in the prequels.
>>235958 You don't understand. I mean using the droids as comic relief isn't working. I've watched about 10 episodes so far and they're not funny. At all. I groan every time this series attempts humor. I don't even think I'd find it funny if I was 10.
>>235976 The humor gets toned down a LOT in later seasons. I agree that the droids aren't very funny but their "humor" isn't nearly so prevalent after. The first season is just a cartoon, but from 2 on it becomes more of an old pulp action serial.
Jem was gonna be a mess even if Christy Marx had been working on it. Given the speed between the announcement of the film and that first trailer, I get the feeling that the people behind the movie were using a generic script that was punched up with some Jem references during (pre-)production.
>>236013 It could also be one of those things where the studio's contract for the property stipulates that they must do something with it by a certain date, or they lose the rights to the property. The deadline draws near, for some reason they want to keep it, so they make some super-cheap teeny movie, slap the Jem label on it, and they keep the license.
And just like TTG, the staff proceed to shoot themselves in the foot by mocking their fans.
So let's recap. None of the original creators. None of the original writers. None of the original PPG voices, even though EVERYONE ELSE is onboard, the voice of Buttercup made a tumblr-level third-wave feminist video that I'm sure even plus4 would find outright disgusting, one of the main writers, Haley Mancini, wants superheroes to be gender-segregated. Which is most likely going to mean no female villains and the series will be totally aimed towards girls instead of...nobody specific, and one of the lead fucking storyboard animators posts this on her twitter. And to top it off, both Craig McCracken and Lauren Faust, and the original PPG actresses have slammed CN openly for this.
I have never seen a show go to hell that fast within 24 hours of announcement.
>>236044 I think it's important, considering the show was a pioneer in kicking gender norms in the ass. So when one of the main writers says shit like this, it becomes a problem. You'd be foolish to say it doesn't.
>And taken off it has -- most surprisingly with young boys. It has been a longtime standard in Hollywood that "girl shows" just don't attract a mass audience. Long thought that little boys determined what a household of kids watched, shows based on girl topics were never made. However that's all changed. Since The Powerpuff Girls has become a hit every channel is scrounging around for their own "girl show." However Bob Bryant says, "It's the combination of superheroes and little girls that attaches the boy audience."
>Regarding the boy audience McCraken says, "You know I thought they would just completely dis the show because it's cute little girls and they would want nothing to do with it. But they have really responded well, they really like the show. I think that they just like the fact that there is this visceral action that they can respond to."
>Regarding the phenomenal reach of the series, McCraken says, "I thought it would get on Cartoon Network and college kids would watch it and there would be a few random T-shirts out there in the rave scene or in record shops. But I had no idea that it would take off to this extent."
It was his goal to defy gender conventions. When he saw that it was still being marketed as super girly, that made him so angsty that he Powerpuff Girls movie extra grimdark out of spite. Not his proudest moment.
I don't get most of the complaints about third wave feminism outside of the tucutes and queer fetishists, because most of the really obnoxious radfems these days have more in common with the excesses of the second wave (political lesbianism, transphobia, and open misandry in extreme cases, debates about porn, rape culture, objectification and sex positivity/negativity, gender roles, etc.). The only thing these people tend to have in common with the third wave is the age.
For better or for worse the third wave is more focused on expanding feminism beyond the boundaries of straight white middle-class Western folks. On a good day they're doing the kinds of things antifeminists bitch at second wavers about, like helping to outlaw FGM or child marriage in the Middle East, or forming support networks in immigrant communities. And on those bad days most of the really jackass things third wavers do or say (which is still a lot), like calling for organized violence against white people or downplaying POC-on-POC atrocities, fanatical word policing, romanticizing mental disorders, or attacking prosthetics and cochlear implants for being ableist, aren't even feminism-related.
>>236156 I think that is still illegal (technically, a plot synopsis can be considered copyright infringement if it's detailed enough), but not in any way anyone cares about--it's basically just a transcript, and no one ever tries to take those down.
>>236158 Fair Use is a defense, not a right. It doesn't really come into play unless you're already in court defending yourself against claims of copyright infringement. Most people who get accused of copyright infringement never take it to court because you have to pay lawyers to go to court, and the companies attempting to silence you can afford that shit a lot more than you can. They just roll over and accept whatever the companies tell them so they don't have to pay lawyers' fees, even when they're in the right legally.
Quite a large number of projects have been shut down that could easily have passed the Fair Use defense if they had gone to court. But it's not worth the cost or the effort for most amateurs to defend themselves when big businesses start bullying them.
>haven't seen Regular Show in a while >nothing else new on this Thursday, figure I'll check it out >another Rigby brings up romance in a stressful situation for no reason and gives vague advice >Mordecai takes it and gets in more idiocy for the sake of yet even more romance problems Well, back to skipping Regular Show.
I guess it was unreasonable to assume they'd upload seasons 1 and 2 at the same time. I've missed a lot of those episodes, but I guess I'll just jump into marathoning Season 3 and it'll probably work out.
So, that thing turned out to be a short (very short) 3 minute independent thing by british animators, done for a contest https://www.edfilmfest.org.uk/films/2015/the-mclaren-award-new-british-animation-2/full-details
>>236762 But as the sole packaging being that face on a blank background and the movie name in all white? I hope they don't start doing that with the netflix cover arts, that'd be the worse thing since that time all the adult swim cartoons had white text on a black background for their netflx covers.
>>236790 >But as the sole packaging being that face on a blank background and the movie name in all white? Yep. just the current trend untill a new marketer latches himself onto a popular thing with a different idea. Self fulfilling prophecies and all that.
>>236823 I have at least. 2 seasons, ova and the movie. All I'm going going to say is K-On, and my that extension neither is moe, is not for everyone. I don't love K-On, but it's probably the 2nd or 3rd best series kyoani has done. I didn't want to make this 2nd post because this /co/ and not /jam/, and I kinda dislike off-topic discussion.
In other news, I saw the Ladybug preview. The move to cgi away from basically precure might be cool and I'm curious what changed in the switch. //youtube.com/watch?v=rxU-Ps-TRIE
>>236828 I'm interested in why they made the protagonist half-Chinese, as there aren't a whole lot of Chinese people in France (less than 1%, though still more than most European countries). For diversity reasons? Because it's unusual? Wanting an Asian protagonist because of the collaboration with Toei? Either way it's pretty cool to see one as the full-on lead in Western stuff.
I liked Dragons Race to the Edge. I realize now why they did 13 episodes instead of 5, since it's the first show to not be as episodic, to the point of having multi-parters. But if they are just going to spread the same amount of episodes among the same amount of time, that means the next set isn't due out for another 6 months instead of 4, and that's kind of a bummer. The wingsuit had an arc, I want to know if the sword will have one in the next batch.
>>236980 I guess that's just how Netflix works. Wish I had a schedule to look forward to though, Dreamworks never really seems to say anything until it's just about to happen. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places.
If it's a hoax, I'm going to be fucking pissed off. I would love a proper SWAT Kats reboot helmed by the guys who created the original series, and that's what the fuck this thing promises, so if it is a troll/hoax, I will set up a table for the sole purpose of flipping it.
>>237390 I only watched 5 minutes of the show, and thought it was too "radical", and had too much "attitude". I thought it was too dated and unmemorable to get a reboot with all the other kool kidz.
But reality had proven me wrong some times, like recently with some of Greenland's border ice slowly returning despite "global warming being unstoppable". I think it's possible to get a good reboot out of something meh.
>>237397 The second season's better than the first—darker tone, better animation/art style, and a little less of the shitty “radical” dialogue that was likely a network edict. The Tremblays have full control of the property now, so they can do whatever the fuck they want this time around. (They'll probably still shoot for a TV-PG-ish show and all, but at least they get to make that call themselves.)
>>237420 It's not really the “filling in” thing that’s important. When you’re telling a story in a visual medium without using dialogue/words, you have to make sure every visual you use counts towards the story. Every frame of a wordless comic has to move the action forward and get across any characterization you might need to show. Without the ability to “tell” via dialogue, you have to “show” via visuals—and that means you have to understand the meaning of each visual you want to use; when, where, and how to use them; and how to best get across each visual without letting it lose its meaning or ruin the clarity of your story. The most famous wordless comic I can think of—GI Joe’s “Silent Interlude” issue—is a master class in how to do all of that.
Problem with the Swat Kats Kickstater is that is essentially a fundraiser for materials needed to pitch the show to networks, meaning there's no guarantee the series will be made. Granted, the stretch goals promise an entire animated episode or Direct to Stream movie.
>>237455 It's a way of gauging interest, if nothing else. If a load of people pay cash upfront for the mere prospect of a show, that's a lot of moolah to wave under execs' noses and go "all this can be yours if you give us a shot".
//youtube.com/watch?v=ckDPlGSw_vk Hm, so it is basically going to be Bob the Builder but with dinosaur vehicle hybrids. Cute, but I want to see what's next. Dreamworks has an annoying tendency to not talk about their netflix stuff until basically just before it happens.
>>237621 I feel like directly adapting an ongoing source material is a bad idea anyways. You end up just meandering with either glacial pacing or mindless original content that doesn't actually do anything or even matter. Which is to say, my feelings are the exact opposite of yours.
>>237623 In the case of all the stuff the most notoriously does that, it's because there aren't any laws like in North America that say you can't turn your cartoon into a half hour commercial to sell tie-in merch. So in Japan that is what those anime are, so they want to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak. Isn't it more interesting when it's not something you know exactly how it's going to happen because you already read it? Cartoon adaptations of comics have produced some of the definitive versions of some story arcs/characters. Are you saying that shouldn't have happened?
>>237625 I'm sure the practicalities of adapting a comic versus adapting a manga play a part as well. Even long-running manga are self-contained series with a single author, and they don't have to deal with company-wide continuous universes with multiple decades of ancillary material.
I mean, where the hell would you start with a direct Superman adaptation? Action Comics #1?
>Marvel and DC are consistently considered the mainstream, but they are routinely beat out in pure sales and popularity by webcomics, manga and graphic novels including Telgemeier’s Smile and Drama (both with more copies in print than Star Wars #1, and at a higher retail price). Homestuck is a webcomic that was, at least at one point, getting 600,000 unique visitors per day, and Randall Munroe’s XKCD was reportedly pulling in between 60 and 70 million hits a month at times. The last pamphlet comic prior to Star Wars #1 to sell one million copies was a Pokemon manga from 1999.
>Ironically, Marvel’s own Ms. Marvel presents a perfect example of this scenario: the ongoing title remains one of Marvel’s most successful series, but its success is still qualified and written off, because it’s just “placating a vocal minority at the expense of the rest of the paying audience.” Another prominent example is how The Walking Dead #100 sales were qualified—it sold nearly 400,000 copies, and the series’ collections sell consistently well in bookstores and online, but it’s still an “indie” book despite evidence to the contrary. Book after book continues to regularly dwarf the sales of Marvel and DC output—some even casting a shadow on the historic sales of Star Wars #1—but their success is overlooked. Regardless of how many units are sold, Marvel and DC are mainstream and everything else is “other.”
>>237688 I don't think even comic book fans dispute how tiny the direct market is (god knows I haven't stepped foot in a comic book store for nearly a decade). DC and Marvel might be little more than IP farms nowadays, but I think what keeps them being "the mainstream" and the hilariously larger graphic novel/manga/webcomic markets "indie" is that the "big two" have corralled their titles under their duopolistic umbrella while the wider market remains extremely fractured. A vast and disparate collection of players are making pennies from their own small corners instead of hoarding the revenue from multiple sources in a single pot. So while DC/Marvel's share of the market is tinier, they're able to monetise it better.
Makes you imagine, doesn't it? What if webcomics bunched their universes together like DC/Marvel do? I imagine a Hiveworks crossover would break the internet.
Having been watching The Penguins of Madagascar (the cartoon) to get more context on Penguins of Madagascar (the movie). I'm beginning to come to the same conclusion that others have stated; which is that you can't really sell a cartoon style silly lovestruck Kowalski with his serious business movie voice.
>>237829 We don't question it, we know it's because the government is afraid the Canadian identity would be washed out by american programming so it forces all Canadian networks to broadcast a miminum percentage of canadian made content, but doesn't fund any of it. So cheap shows are an easy way to fill the quota.
>>237830 It's teaching children to look beyond the surface to the true nature of a person. The masks people wear may be to hide ugliness or weakness, or they may simply bring out the beauty of their strengths.
1) Who was it who initiated the first flashback that created cousin Vinny? Mr. PB 2) Who was the one who called the quarantine "claustrophobic" and wanted to go out first? Mr. PB 3) Right after a bloody massacre... they immediately grilled up some porkchops and ate dinner amidst blood splattered walls and parasite corpses. This family is fucked up, but not that fucked up.
Mr. PB is a parasite. The last few scenes where he gets shot by Beth and goes through physical therapy are all implanted memories. Similar to how getting stuck in an elevator or being caught by a Nazi turned out "good" because some wacky new character saved them, shooting Mr. PB turned out to be a "good" memory with respect to Mr. PB because he forgave Beth.
The new OP contains Mr. PB to indicate he escaped successfully and has now implanted himself into the memories of the rest of the world... us, the audience.
>>238092 >only hope Are you buying into the "2D is ded" meme? I was just sad that a movie with great looking concept art got converted into 3D and lost all the extra touches in the process (along with acquiring the sameface).