/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>>234083
Thank god.

I kinda wish the crew would call "Full Disclosure" the season 1 finalé because it seems like just the kind of episode to end a season on. Not that "Prison Break" wasn't awesome and all, but the way "Full Disclosure" ended makes it seem like the end of a season/major storyline, not the beginning of one.

>>234089
If there was a PresiGem I'd think Garnet and her crew would've done something about it.

I'm guessing episodes are normally released on a weekly basis and last week was just a weird one?

>>234090
Probably why it's airing before the hiatus now.

>>234095
Correct, there's now a short hiatus until season 2.

My guess is the gems are quasi retired now, like they most likely fought in human wars and helped found the USA but following that retired to the sleepy little town of Beach City.

So yeah, I figure Garnet squashed some Nazis into chunks, Pearl impaled a few mongolians and Amethyst wrapped a few Klan members to their burning crosses among some examples of them siding with various groups through history.

Also Guessing Slavery while still a thing was less of a thing thanks to the Gems.

>>234097
Unless they had some sort of super media powers they'd either have become celebrities or constantly had assassins gunning after them and not live the relatively public lives they do lead.

Kinda like other heroes, few years after their high life. Things move on and they become fixtures of history. Nobody connecting the face on the coin to that of a lady up the beach.

Wonder when they went into isolation, when did Greg show up/return.

>>234108
The Crystal Gems are probably overtly alien enough that they would still stand out in society. I doubt their world has any other famous chubby purple women with white hair that would confound someone recognizing Amethyst if she did famously visible things.

>>234089
The Gems have been around since prehistoric times, but it looks like ever since Rose's revolution they were pretty separate from human history and have no real interest in influencing or being a part of their lives. People in Beach City still consider the weird stuff weird, but it's literally been there for longer than any of them have. Those weird gem-people are just a part of life like anything else.

If they've mostly been uninvoled with human affairs since the war ended 5000 years ago, being an archeologist in this world must be freaking weird: a bunch of unconnected cultures all over the world all have a bunch of figures in common around the same time, and no one can tell why.

Likewise, even if whatever tore off Florida happened 10,000 years ago, a glancing geological examination would be all kinds of what the fuck.

>>234117
Even with a cracked gem and not at full power Lapis showed an extraordinary amount of control over water. It's possible that one or more gems teaming together had the ability to control plate tectonics or volcanic activity on a global level.

So apparently Jasper's voice actor is Ashley Williams from Mass Effect. Heh.

Do you think there are more trapped gems like Lapis?

>>234132
Well gauging how she has a yearning to get back into space. And her ability to interface with the handy ship along with that uniform. Once part of the Pilot fleet now they are all retired and she's the last I think.

>>234123

And Connie's mum is the Major from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (aka, the best version of Ghost in the Shell).

Hm, here's a thought. They established that the monsters are various corrupted or broken Gems a while ago, but are they potentially the Crystal Gems' friends that were injured in the war, their enemies from the same, or both?

>>234140
I was under the impression the gems the quartet face on a regular basis (not all, but a vast majority) were the "mass produced" gems created in the Kindergarten, which would explain why they are usually deficient or damaged in some respect. It would also explain why the Crystal Gems have had so little apparent effect on world history if they've been occupied for thousands of years keeping the world from these abortions of science.

>>234139
If there's an active person inside that gem as opposed to it just being an organic (by the gemrace's perspective since I assume everything about them is made of minerals) mechanism then it's pretty fucked how the gems are enslaving their own race as living batteries.

>>234140
>>234141
In my mind, there are three leading (not entirely mutually exclusive) theories about what caused them to be corrupted:
1. Just being exposed to Earth's environment can corrupt a Gem, so most of them are Crystal Gems because they've been on Earth longer.
2. They're the majority of the Kindergarten Gems because their creation process is flawed. As Rasputin_zero said, it's possible that it happens some other way, they're just more prone to corruption.
3. It's the result of some weapon that was used in the war.


>>234142
It's implied quite a lot of gem technology is based on recycling broken (i.e. dead) gems, which is macabre, but not nearly as bad. Frybo was made using gem shards, which Pearl said were partially conscious and used to make soldiers out of armor, and later explicitly shown to broken pieces of living gems (they turned into arms). Lapis may have been put in the mirror because someone assumed she was dead.

The more you look at the pyramid, though, the more it seems like it was just a place to hold that gem--it was powering a mechanism, but that mechanism was just a way to get rid of intruders. There wasn't anything else there to keep people away from, just the mural which could be seen without activating the death trap.

>>234143
I wonder what they would've done with Amethyst's gem shards had she actually died in Indirect Kiss.

>>234143
Alternately there's some Madoka-esque fuckery going on and gem power or fusion overuse could lead to some bad shit accumulating.

https://mega.co.nz/#!1cgghQzQ!0lOPeEu37QSSZfvlW07Bzcnq4zJ1fjMC7QWKhLC9MpM

I loved this.

>>234048
What's so bad/different about Uncle Grandpa? Never bothered watching it. Is it because it's lolsorandumbxD or something?

>Connie is a TVTroper
Leave her while you still can Steven.

>>234155

S:"It was all pretend, wasn't it?"

Pearl pulls out a marriage certificate.

A:"HA HA HA, Steven dun got himself hitched."

S:"OH NOOOOO, do you think Connie knows?"

Pan to Maheswaran residence Connie's mon calling out that she's got mail.

Connie opens the envelope and looks over the assumed to be gag certificate Steven made inside. Small smile crosses her face, tears well up in her eyes.

C: Oh Steven, someday.

Connie puts the certificate back in the envelope and tucks in the the front pocket of her overalls.

So Cloud Connie was part of Steven/Rose to get him to tell the truth?

>>234169
Was that story a reference to anything? All I could think of was Animorphs.

Felt like a general mish mash, some Harry Potter, a little bit of Wrinkle in Time maybe some Artemus Fowl especially if she is bitter bout the ending (though people wanted a wedding in that one).

>>234181
Yeah, the ending to that series was bananas.

I loved it, but it was still bananas.

Looks like Connie is a budding anarchist or hipster.

>>234193
Or a child who liked a fantasy book series.

>>234200
Cloud Connie will never let him keep secrets.

I wonder whether Rose's room is sentient on its own or it just does all this acting off of Steven and/or Rose's subconscious.

>>234205
There's been bits and pieces hinting at how enormously powerful Rose was. Could be a computerized storage for some aspect of Rose's brain.

>>234205
It's probably acting off of Steven's unconscious like his other powers did before he got a handle on them.

>>234205
Beats me, I think there's some implication that there's some kind of 'training' programming set up, because both episodes with it ended in Steven learning a lesson of some kind.

>>234205
Dunno, it let up and vanished once he admitted the truth

>>234208
>I think there's some implication that there's some kind of 'training' programming set up, because both episodes with it ended in Steven learning a lesson of some kind.

It's clear neither case was a simple malfunction/accident, but there are several equally likely things that it is: you could see it as teaching him a lesson, but also giving him what he really wants instead of what he says he wants.

>>234249
It was noted, but didn't seem all that out of place considering all the 90's Japanophile culture influences the show has.

>>234249
The right people had their kicks over it. Everyone else just saw Cloud.

>>234251
Also the author works on the show.

>>234251
>>234252
People where too busy with "sanic".

>>234252
I don't get it, who else is it supposed t-OOOOOOOOOH!

Holy crap, that's a blast from the past!

>>234292
>>234252
I'm not seein it

wh

what am I missing here?

>>234293
It's Hero, the main character from Quartey's old webcomic RPG World (he's a parody of Cloud, so the resemblance isn't a coincidence).

>>234266
>nobody cares about the Gitaroo Man one
Sob.

>>234302
People did back when it aired.

>>234315
If she can use shape shifting to shrink: She's both closer and smaller on screen than the characters in the car.

>>234312
Def the hottest of the human girls by far. Kiki is pretty qt too though.

Well that explains why Sour Cream and Onion look so different, but what about his weird-ass name? Is it a nickname?

>>234322
Yeah, that's why I have kinda mixed feelings about the sexual undertones. It's amusing in some instances but man, it makes Alone Together mega creepy.

>>234321
in Lars and the Cool Kids, SC introduces himself as "They call me Sour Cream"

could mean it's just a nickname.

>>234323
>it makes Alone Together mega creepy.

>Are you ok?
>we can stop if-
>no, no don't worry

This shit's not even subtle.

>>234326
Aren't they both waaaay underage?

>>234328
it's two ten year olds
10+10=20

Sour Cream is the best Cool Kid, but I kinda get bummed out every time he shows up because it reminds me Sym-Bionic Titan only got one season.

>>234329
...Is that how it works?

>>234380
If you mean "is what why Stevonnie seems to be an adult or at least older teenager", maybe.

laser light cannon in japanese
//youtube.com/watch?v=l8b8h_etsxk

I like how the Crystal Gems sound Mitsuki Saiga does all sorts of things to my bits. Steven sounds way too old though.

>>234396
Interesting that the Japanese VAs sing the music themselves. I was expecting it to be like Glee where they keep the original audio for the songs.

>>234398
They had the VAs sing the song in pretty much every language.

Steven is fine, GARNET IS WAAAAAAAAAAAY OFF.

>>234400
Well, what exactly would the equivalent of "Black and British" be, Japanese accent wise?

>>234403
>On a lighter note it's fitting that best gem is also best Jojo waifu.
Amethyst?

>>234403
>On a lighter note it's fitting that best gem is also best Jojo waifu.
Peridot?

>>234403
>On a lighter note it's fitting that best gem is also best Jojo waifu.
Garnet?

>>234403
>On a lighter note it's fitting that best gem is also best Jojo waifu.
Rose?

>>234403
My bigger problem is Garnet sounds too emotional, she should be more detached and monotone. If she used her Yoite voice from Nabari it would've been alright I guess.

Literally the Uncle Grandpa episode was made in such a way it interferes with nothing, it takes place before the Steven bomb and is an explanation for why Steven can use his shield against the hand ship, which you can ignore and just say he learned how in that moment, but the interesting implication is Steven can use his shield by will now.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Hx9M2x6oros
Meh.

>>234418
This looks terrible

>>234418
Some shows don't work too good at breaking the fourth wall.

>>234418
at least its only MINORLY canon.
like
its set before the Return either way.

I like UG, but I still don't understand the purpose of this.

>>234430
It's clearly an attempt to revive the old days of CN crossovers, it should be welcome but people who watch Steven Universe think just because it actually has a plot it should be SRS BSNS all the time.

>>234431
I don't think the problem is that it's a non-serious episode, or that it's even uncle grandpa it's crossing with.

it's probably more that people prefer shows to be self-contained entities.

>>234432
Yes. If I don't like UG, I should be allowed to ignore it.

>>234435
Tengen Topaz Grandpa Lagann

>>234435
Holy fuck.

>>234443
He's from both sides. He is everyone's Uncle and Grandpa. He is yours as well.

>>234444
Technically everyone in the worlds. So no one out of it.

Though, I guess if you come here, you're automatically related by default.

I'm beginning to thing he may be a mad god.

>>234447
So completely evil? http://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html

>>234454
>going to /co/ prime
there's a reason we don't do that anymore, anon.

>>234435
//youtube.com/watch?v=1cOQwhsqrDM

//youtube.com/watch?v=1cOQwhsqrDM

>>234494
The Japs make everything better

>>234496
What the hell is this? Spinoff manga or what?

>>234496
Let's see how tumblr divides itself on those who love this and those who despise it.

>>234498
Something's telling me it's just some April Fools fan art. Like a file name or something.

>>234479
Okay, this seriously is going to be great.

>>234501
it was april fools.

as if it wasn't obvious.

>>234499
There are people on my dash talking about how it's the worst joke ever, it's "gross" and offensive, why would anyone laugh at this, etc etc.

Happy april fool's everyone

>>234496
Who drew this is what I'd like to know.

Heads will roll!

//youtube.com/watch?v=d4hap41cZcc

Or orbit.

>>234522
I can't believe people were shitting their pants over this, it's adorable.

>>234523
Just think about how weird this has got to be for the gems though. Not only are his fourth wall breaking powers unheard of in their little universe, but furthermore they're being forced to deal with the concept of having ancestors, something which no other Gem but Steven has ever had. If Uncle Grandpa is *everyone's* Uncle and Grandfather, that includes them, and they are basically oreads.

This has got to be fucking with their heads something fierce.

>>234524
I don't think he is their Uncle Grandpa, since Amethyst doesn't know him.

>>234525
Plenty of people in Uncle Grandpa's own show don't know him either.

>>234526
Really? I thought one of his gags was that everybody knew Uncle Grandpa.

>>234418
>"That which holds the image of Uncle Grandpa becomes itself Uncle Grandpa".

>>234525
>>234527
>>234537
All correct.

So apparently people are thinking Lars are trans? I wouldn't have a problem if it was the case, and it might add a little depth to his self-respect issues, but is there actually any strong evidence for it that can't be easily explained as something more general?

>>234541
Would have to review the episodes, they talking MTF or FTM?

>>234541
I haven't looked at the "evidence" provided, but I'm told most of it was in the Horror Club episode.

>>234541
I really don't feel that there's much to support that other than maybe his lobe piercings. Otherwise he just comes across as kind of insecure and desperate, which don't require gender identity issues as a cause.

>>234543
Hmm I'll check that.

>>234546
Shit, I meant FTM.

>>234546
Yeah, on the other hand if any show's going to do it, Steven Universe is high in the list of likely ones to do so. So I won't write it off immediately even if I'm unconvinced by the arguments.

>>234541
Wait what?? I mean, I've seen it and all those posts but those have not gone beyond being just headcanons and alternate character interpretations.

I've seen a shit load of that trans lars stuff but not once have I seen anyone hint at 'this is actually how it is in the show.'

>>234541

There's also a lot of people who are quick to toss around identities and labels of many kinds for various characters, all it takes is a few simple traits. It can get a little obnoxious. Usually it's just a few people just writing their own little thing, but sometimes people get really pissed. If you were a fan of Dangan Ronpa the Chihiro debate was utterly ridiculous and even when a character does things that would mark them as very specifically not transgender, they'll choose that as the hill to die on.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Jpng3BXvg4o

>>234550
Oh good. I was a bit worried they where taking his long hair, small voice and apparel to assume his sex.
Long as they're not serious about it, that's fine.

>Mr. Gus has a gemsona
>Pizza Steve eaten by Amethyst
>That list of other cartoons UG visited

This was the best episode ever

>>234565
Thanks suugar.

>its not canon
>april' fools


best show ever

THAT'SNOTMYBABY

What a goddamn delight.

Also Uncle Grampa's checklist, incredible.

Wait wtf happened to Pearl and Amethyst. Did he switch them?

>>234569
More like Amethyst is naturally suited to a cartoon reality while it causes Pearl to become completely unhinged.

Kinda meh episode though it had good moments. Love that end bit. It's a lesson Tumblr could seriously use.
I guess I can understand why a lot of people don't like Uncle Grandpa. Way too much lolsorandumbxD.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2lluot_su-say-uncle_fun?start=3

Goddamn. Why can't Steven Universe be like this all time? With pacing that gets to the point, instead of dragging out. Interesting and comical visual gags. And jokes! There were jokes!

>>234575
This. I REALLY don't like how there's a couple of plot-centric episodes and suddenly Steven Universe has ALWAYS been Evangelion.

Its a comedic cartoon with a plot line. Yes, thats new. Yes its more serious than cartoons usually are. But its still comical. I'm open to this. I love that they did this.

>>234576
>>234577
At this point I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if your taste is legitimately this shitty, which I can totally believe considering other statements you've made in the past.

>>234580
It's Jumpman.

That should answer your question.

>>234577
>Goddamn. Why can't Steven Universe be like this all time? With pacing that gets to the point, instead of dragging out. Interesting and comical visual gags. And jokes! There were jokes!
Based on these complaints, I don't think you should be watching Steven Universe in the first place, and I'm not entirely sure why you are.

>>234582
The crossover intrigued and entertained me, so I decided to share my thoughts.

>>234583
Your thoughts have been recorded. Thank you for your contribution to the project.

That was fun.
Great on both ends.

>>234584
And thank you for the passive aggressive attitude.

If Steven Universe was this all the time it would already be cancelled.

Happy medium is what you want and thankfully the creators know how to strike that balance.

>>234589
>If Steven Universe was this all the time it would already be cancelled.

Probably not meant as a dig to UG, but the series was picked up for a third season.

https://twitter.com/peebgardt/status/565576745202765825

>>234588
It's why I'm here.

>>234592
Good. I honestly love this show.

I really don't get why some people have the apparent need to love one and outright hate the other. There's room for variety in their content. I think that should be supported.

>>234592
Right, because UG is filling that roll, market met, if Steven Universe was that it would achieve nowhere near it's success.

>>234579
Kek, she was too good for you anyway Lars.

Frazzled Pearl is adorable.

You know, rewatching it I really wanna see UG now. Is it generally as entertaining as this episode?

I thought it worked fine in the crossover episode, but I really got the impression that I would get irritated quite quickly if I actually watched an episode of Uncle Grandpa. It felt like something that was actively trying to be obnoxious and struck me as the sort of thing that relies on non-sequitur for humor, and I'm no longer in the part of my life where I find that amusing. It's just not my style of humor anymore. I can find it amusing in small doses, but not in bulk.

But feel free to correct me if I've gotten the wrong impression of the series.

>>234602
I have watched some episodes of UG, you're not wrong. It's pretty grating.



The only part of the crossover I laughed at was the Crystal Gems freaking out.

>>234602
I feel like the UG "jokes" came way too fast without any breathing room, which just lends to the overall "lol, so random xD" feeling.

Okay I gotta admit I'm hype
//youtube.com/watch?v=utULCVro9kk

>>234608
>Giant Steven with bishie hair
>more Rose
happyPepe.jpg

>>234607
Yeah, it's clearly a dense/wacky type of comedy rather than the character driven comedy that Steven Universe prefers. And both are valid forms of comedy, but the audiences for them are different enough that I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a huge degree of overlap between those two fandoms.

>>234608
I cant understand why rose is the only one in his show, hes song is awesome

>>234614
Maybe this is the crash part. Happens to quite a few Rockstars. Still I'm quite giddy to see their interactions.

>>234608
That reminds me: Anybody else think that Jon Wurster might show up on this show that so heavily uses his comedy partner, Tom Scharpling?

>>234617
You don't have to guess.

https://twitter.com/ianjq/status/584040199878909952

>>234619
So wait, Jon Wurster is in an episode of Steven Universe two days after a new Mountain Goats album comes out? Smells like vinyl meerkats.

rose, yonger gems, sour cream dad and mom fucking in gregs van.
How many feelings you can put in 11 minutes ?

could this be considered a continuity error? It's already established gems don't age, so it's kind of weird that the gems are in 'teenaged' forms.

poetic license ?

I figure they're doing this for Rose, my guess is Rose asked them to take on child like forms to try and be more human like, it's somewhat backed up by Pearl's learning to sing from Greg and Amethyst basing her hair on hers.

this episode give us a lot of things to think about, but Im really itrested in what happened to Vidalia and marty, the life of gem in beach city before meet greg.
And Rose beat baymax in the cutest contes.

>>234724
Vidalia and Marty are probably related to Onion and Sour Cream, given how Marty looks so much like Sour Cream and Vidalia is a type of onion. Possibly Sour Cream and Onion's mom and Sour Cream's biological dad?

>>234721
I think it's probably just a different board artist who draws heads bigger.

>>234721
Yeah I'm not sure its them being teenagers - we're just used to judging Gems' height in comparison to Steven. They don't tower over Greg like they do him.

>>234725
Marty is almost definitely Sour Cream's dead. They look similar and both are interested in music.

Vidalia is likely Sour Cream and Onion's mother, having hooked up with Yellowtail sometime after leaving Marty. Making Yellowtail Sour Cream's step dad and Onion Sour Cream's half-brother.

To think, there's probably a good chance that Sour Cream was conceived in Greg's van.

Sour Cream can't have been conceived in Greg's van. He and the other Cool Kids are at most five years older than Steven, and not only is this episode brazenly set in the 80s, Greg's clearly aged a lot more than five years between Mr. Universe and the Greg in the For Steven video.

That being said, I'm pretty sure Marty is indeed his father, and Dadalia is at least related to his mom - for fuck's sake her head is onion shaped.

>>234732
>Hoping something like that for writers comes along.
Storyboard artists ARE the writers, Bunker.

>>234733
On a level so I've come to understand. Though they are more director as they are the ones making calls on scene composition from what has been written.

>>234727
>Yeah I'm not sure its them being teenagers - we're just used to judging Gems' height in comparison to Steven. They don't tower over Greg like they do him.

Pearl and Greg are about the same height, just like in the present (although younger Greg looks bizarrely short, even though he's past college age, mostly because of the aforementioned "bigger heads"). She and Garnet still look vaguely "younger", but not in a really solid sense.

At first I thought Amethyst was way smaller, especially when Pearl was holding her, but then she seemed about her regular size standing next to Rose. As Quartey said, the storyboard artist freely take liberties regarding the relative size of characters.

Also, apparently everyplace in this world is called "X Town/City". From the way Marty kept saying they had to go to "Empire City" (New York), I don't think that's a nickname.