Well, that was awesome! ...And Surprisingly violent!
Kudos to them in the first two episodes actively tying off some dangling threads from the previous season (not necessarily plot things, but stuff dealing with chacter interactions).
Kind of okay with them just focusing on just having fun or adventuring, rather than getting all anxious over who is paired with who. Like what they've done over in Korra after all the tiresome relationship drama from the first two seasons has ended.
>>229033 Though they did have that twist there that Dipper being there means a lot to her that he's something closer than she has with the others.I mean I expected her to shrug it off a bit but not to real talk with some deep feelings that go into another type of love Disney has been playing with those a lot lately in their media.
Yeah, but with Korra I think it was just a mess, Gravity Falls on the other hand I think has been trying to show little boys what a healthy relationship with women means.
The Wendy that winks all sexy at you isn't real, the one that you can trust is.
It's one thing to destroy an unhealthy relationship out of a desire to protect someone you love, it's another to destroy it so you can have the unhealthy relationship.
I think Avatar was just trying to emulate Buffy/Whedon style friends where everyone is with everyone before they realized it was awful and gave up and I think Adventure Time has been TRYING to go the road of showing how you treat girls but the results have been nothing more than TERRIBLE whereas Gravity Falls has been one of the few shows to stick the landing so to speak
>>229038 Just like life, takes a few tries to get it right.
But yea I know where all this is coming from. She feels strongly for Dipper as someone she can depend on and be herself around. Will that change when they are older, who knows since its part of growing up. I like that seems to be a good message there. Similar to Fosters, makes sense given what Frankie and Wendy represent, though second is mostly just rumor, I think.
Solid first two episodes. I didn't find Scare-oke that funny, but then the zombies happened and jesus christ. Into the Bunker was golden from start to finish, though. That pre-title gag.
I like this Disney is supportive and constructive. While Nick is like EA distant and unattached to anything that doesn't survive on its own. Hence this show working here when it likely would have just died on Nick.
>>229096 They would have made it work probably seen the potential and oversaw that things were done to the fullest, not just left it to its own devices, or at least this current Disney would have.
Probably would have gotten them a comic series printed by Marvel as well, and a section at their themeparks. Not that the Dark Horse comics aren't great (they're getting increasingly better), it's just that if they were printed by Marvel they'd get a wee bit more exposure.
Considering the theme of the season seems to be "nothing is the same anymore", what with the Stan reveal and the Wendy thing getting gently put a stop to, who else thinks that the next ep will have Mabel and Pacifica actually ending up on somewhat good terms?
What with Alec Hirsch saying that she was going to get more development in this season (and her dad's being played by Nathan Fillon for some reason).
Oh, and Jon Stewart gave the show a shout out on the Daily Show a couple of days ago, which was pretty neat. Hm, I wonder if he was turned onto the show by John Oliver, who similarly had a shout-out when the voice actress who plays Wendy was a guest last summer...
>>229179 >Also, Jon Stewart has cartoon watching kids, and is a nerd. Yeah, he's also made references to Phineas and Ferb and before. I'm sure having Kristen Schall on regularly helps, but I'll bet he would've known about it either way.
Well, Sock Opera was great. It does seem that they're trying to "correct" common complaints with the first season.
Like, Stan not knowing about the paranormal stuff in the first episode, the whole Wendy/Dipper thing in the second, Pacifica getting some characte development in the third etc.
>>229963 Well Disney likes the show and wants it to be a success so they sat down with Production and discussed what plot lines didn't work and where things should be going.
>>229965 Glad they decided to drop the generic plot lines using trope reversion. Wendy and Pacifica now have opportunity to be characters with more relevance and depth.
>>229968 I like Wendy and the direction that last bit went with her. That was a surprisingly real conversation she had about how much it means that Dipper is her friend.
They are doing a good job at getting back to what Disney asked and dispensing with what they didn't like. Though I think the way Wendy was handled made it more important than if would have been continuing with the crush.
Also I wonder if Fear of Animatronic Pizzeria animals is a common thing. I knew I had that back in the day peaking under the curtains when they were inactive.
>>230117 I always hated them. I hated how dumb they looked. I hated the voices they had. And I hated how they moved and blinked their enormous lash drenched eyes.
Although it was in production months and months ago, I still think that it's funny that we had the berserk pizzabots right after Five Nights At Freddy's was released.
The stuff they're getting away with is facinating. Having a kids pizzaria named "Hoo-Ha's" (euphemism for a woman's breasts, and parody on Hooter's restaurants), and the levels of intermittent violence shown throughout this season surprised me considering it's coming from Disney. I'm half expecting a menstruation joke to pop up somewhere in a similar vein to the throwaway line about Dipper's 'creepy' internet history...
If we're doing that then Wendy's a werewolf. No, no hear me out. They build up the 'Rob Zombie' angle with Robbie, only to flip the script (as Soos would say) and do a Wendy werewolf reveal. It'd be the perfect opportunity to put the menstruation joke in... I can see it now: an Dipper tells an uncharacteristically subdued Mabel that it's finally that time of the month, prompting Mabel to muse that the bond between twins is downright uncanny. Dipper looks puzzled and explains he's been reading up on werewolves and tonight's a full moon. Then again, juxtaposing one girl's monthly cycle with another's bout with lycanthropy might be a whole new level of tastelessness.
Okay, yeah. That storyline might be the worst idea ever.
>>231124 >I really have no idea what to think about this. I would say to think of it less as "SHARED MULTIVERSE CONFIRMED" and more as "Someone at Gravity Falls, perhaps Alex Hirsch himself, likes Rick and Morty and wanted to do a shout out to it."
>>231125 A fair idea, but then you have to question why a "?" mug, a notebook, and a pen just randomly popped out of a portal in Rick and Morty. I think it was planned between them. Maybe not to link the series exactly, but more like a fun Easter Egg, and at the very most a hint that Stan is working on a multiverse portal
Ah, but they're doing it in a way that shows kids not to be jerks when it comes to relationships when they're older. Like, just because you like a person, doesn't mean that if you pursue them constantly that they'll change their minds, when really all you're doing is making them uncomfortable.
Sound advice, like the season one episode where Dipper breaks up Wendy and Robbie's relationship... which he was doing less because he's potentially mindcontrolling her, and more because he wants her to himself without taking her feelings into consideration.
Finally getting around to rewatching the first season; wish I'd done it before this season started. I barely remember the general plot of half these episodes.
Pic related: it's so stupid. Why can't I stop laughing at it?
I was disappointed to find out Rumble's eyepatch does not switch places when he turns around like I'd expected it to. This feels like a lost opportunity.
>>232074 Dammit Disney, one step forward and then a stumble and crash down the stairs backward, this from the company that has been on the religious shit list for decades with Gay Day. And now CN is in the lead on this. They'll crush it if they revisit their most popular ship and actually allow it to get finalized.
But that does make more sense now seeing those dolls Mabel was pairing. There is some Irony in that the Interracial Couple is now accepted and the Gay Rep is still mainly taboo.
>>232074 I could see the joke also going with Blubs and Durland getting dosed and nothing really happening. That is a real shame as they indeed are adorable.
The worst part is that apparently the executives are now alright for gay couples for American audiences, but the problem is Russia and China. Including on-screen explicit homosexuality, no matter how tame, means not only giving up those foreign markets altogether for the show, but actually risking getting the whole channel pulled.
Social progress and media representation is being held back by backwards-ass countries all the way on the other side of the planet and there's basically nothing anyone can do about it.
Make sense, wasn't there an Adventure Time episode that was censored in Australia due to their similarly stupid rules regarding that kinda thing? It was the episode with the Door Lord, though I've heard but that it was censored and that it was merely delayed. Not sure which is true.
>>232097 Guess Anime must be slim pickings in those areas.
Disney is the only one that I think has a Network presence in other countries with Cartoon Network, Nick and Hasbro programs being internationally syndicated (part of why Hub wasn't that much a loss for them) So I guess in the long run Disney could fall behind if things due pick up with the other networks in that department.
>>232111 Wait Marcie's song that kicked off the whole P.B. Marcie thing?
I remember some retail chain in Australia featuring a same sex couple. Some group threw a fit and the chain responded with more same sex pairing in their next catalog.
Considering the same episode implied the Love God, Tyler, and some random woman had a three-way and smoked pot in the back of a van, this is kind of ridiculous.
The "I'm just your problem" song didn't kick it off, but that was where it started accelerating. Though according to Olivia Olsen (Marceline's voice actress) Pen Ward did intend for Marcie and PB to be former gfs, but legally couldn't outright say it due to the rules currently in place regarding kid's tv shows.
Looking at the actual list of stuff Australia editted out of the series (mostly stuff like Marcie spitting on PB in What Was Missing, stuff deemed to be sexual or too violent), it seems that the episode in question wasn't editted for any perceived subtext between the two, though the tie-in video that was posted online actually got a guy fired from Federator for "inappropriately" implying they used to date.
...Even though the show's creator said that they did.
Australia seems to be the Anti-Canada in a lot of respects. Up there they've already had at least one kid's show with confirmed canon gay characters in (6teen it was, where a character was confirmed to be a lesbian on-screen, in addition to having a dating one of the reoccuring characters in the episode Role Reversal).
>>232121 >the tie-in video that was posted online actually got a guy fired from Federator for "inappropriately" implying they used to date.
That dude probably deserved to get fired. He took subtext and basically went "LESBIANS! LOOK, LESBIANS! EVERYONE, GET YOUR DICKS OUT, WE HAVE LESBIANS TO WATCH WHILE MASTURBATING!"
OH, that thing. I remember how a lot of fans when ballistic about it, and people like the webcomic artist Yamino where pretty vocal about it. I think she's still mad about this and the SIMS-like episode.
>>232097 Russia really is turning into the new Germany, what with their economy and the ensuing state-supported hardcore nationalism, authoritarianism, and imperialistic aspirations. Hopefully we're better prepared this time around.