>>227384 That would be awesome, but considering that Frozen is (to my knowledge) a more explicit Disney tale instead of just ripping off Grimm or something, they probably won't go that way. That Mulan was heavily suggested as a homosexual (I don't think it was ever stated outright, but they put in all the suggestiveness to leave no doubt) is probably pushing the envelope for them.
And, if there is, it certainly won't be Icest. (Frozcest? I don't keep up with the kids these days.)
That would be nuts and also pretty dangerous considering how attached some are getting to their little fan world they are building around the "message" they are getting from the movie. Those Frozen General threads stopped being about the movie directly a long time ago last I heard.
>Oricon announced on May 12 that the original soundtrack album for Walt Disney Animation Studios' 3DCG musical fantasy film Frozen, which was released in Japan on March 12, has sold 466,000 units in two months and has become the top-selling animation film soundtrack album in history. The previous record holder was the album for the 1978 anime film Farewell to Space Battleship Yamato, the second feature film for the Yamato franchise, which was released in August 1978 and sold 386,000 LPs at the time. The current third is "Symphony Galaxy Express 999" released in July 1979 with 382,000 LPs.
>The album took the top spot two weeks in a row in the Oricon weekly album sales ranking selling 166,000 units in the recent week. The number is the highest since the release, and more sales is expected in the coming weeks.
>In the most recent Japanese movie box office (May 10-11), Frozen held first place for the ninth-straight weekend. Since its opening on March 14, it has earned 17,078,292,150 yen (about US$164,400,000) with 13,501,594 tickets sales, and will definitely reach the record of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (17,300,000,000 yen/2002) by the end of this week.
>>227446 And the reason I blocked the Generals, well more that they started falling into who's fan fiction universe is better kinda garbage. And that was when I realized Disney did the right thing in scrapping the Star Wars EU for parts
>This weekend, the Disney smash hit remained in first place at the Japanese box office for an incomprehensible eleventh weekend in a row. Its $193.7 million gross pushed ahead of Hayao Miyazaki’s Howl’s Moving Castle to become the 3rd highest-grossing movie ever in Japan. In that country, Frozen trails only Titanic ($201.4 million) and Spirited Away ($229.6M) on the all-time list. Worldwide, Frozen surpasssed Iron Man 3 this week to become the 5th highest-grossing movie of all time with $1.22 billion.
>>227446 "Elsanna" is the popular term? No imagination. Good porn, though. Regardless, I guess I should see it at some point...
>>227449 Indeed. And it might have fucked them on merchandising deals, like didn't Chewbacca get crushed by a moon in one of the books? So if a movie took place after that, he wouldn't be in it, so no Chewie plushies or whatever. I guarantee they are doing the movies because of the metric fuck-ton of cash they will make from merchandise, not out of any love for the franchise.
Something I'm learning as I write stuff, don't change things too much where they no longer feel connected to the original or similar base being used. Sometimes it can work but that trend seems to be drying up and more times than not just bites one in the backside.
>>227732 >I know Disney wants wicked bad Is there a story behind this? I mean, obviously in the sense that Maleficent seems to BE Wicked: Disney Edition, but is there some sort of backstory about Disney negotiating for Wicked and being rebuffed?
They've been in Trademark stuff for a while with Warner Bros over Various pieces of the Wizard of Oz property. Its a very complex thing from the looks of it as to who as the rights to use what. As for outright purchasing of the whole thing. I'd say that if happening is behind the scenes just like their Marvel and LucasArts purchases. The old Walt Disney Magic of keeping the project quiet so nobody jacks the price or balks. I don't think its public but I wouldn't be surprised if they want it all.
>>227740 >>227752 Huh. I'm not surprised about Wicked having licensing issues, but the fact that there would be any issues with Wizard of Oz in general surprises me--the book is Public Domain. Sure, you might not be able to get away with Ruby Slippers (as opposed to the silver ones) or other things that originated in the movie version, but I didn't think anyone would be able to sue for a straight adaptation, or even a new adaptation in the vein of Wicked, as long as it WASN'T Wicked.
>Unfortunately, not all spouses can agree to disagree when it comes to entertainment, as is the case with the woman in Japan who’s looking for a divorce because her husband isn’t a fan of Disney’s Frozen.
>>227868 I love the original too, but I saw the desperate need for this movie, like this is a WAAAAAAAAAAAY better version of the events for women, like, the original is kinda gross to show young girls know what I mean? No one took away the original, there is just a version where it's not as gross a story to tell girls.
Except the film presents a Maleficent who never does anything evil and it takes a dump on the original protagonists of the 1959 film: The three good fairies.
Sleeping Beauty isn't about the princess and the prince, it's a conflict between Maleficent and the good fairies with the young couple as basically props to move their battle forward. Hell, the climax is basically the Good Fairies playing a game of Dragon's Lair using a real person. Phillip doesn't do anything except what the fairies point him towards or get him out from and never speaks in those last few minutes of the movie.
I don't really know much about Big Hero 6. I bought an issue at Half-Price out of curiosity, but never read it. Buttoven recently tweeted about how every panel prominently featured a woman's breast, so that's not a great starting point. I do know Man of Action was involved with the comic series, so I imagine the cast are nothing but smug fucks, since that's the only thing Man of Actions knows.
>>228280 The names of the characters rubs me the wrong way, like they based them off of what they knew about anime from the time of Speed Racer or some shit. It's less offensive than the Great Ten which was made in the late 2000s and has no excuse for some of the shit it used, but shit, it was made in 1998, lots other series made more on-target parodies of Japanese media by then.
>>228400 I read that post but it seriously downplays the degree to which character designs are reused by Ghibli. It is notorious enough that they are considered to have a "Star System" like Tezukas where certain "actors" just play roles in their movies. Mei played Ponyo, the male protagonists are almost all played by the same actor, etc.
This seriously. It'd be one thing if they were like "Okay Miyazaki is kinda guilty of this too" but it reads more like "NO! WE CAN CRITICIZE MIYAZAKI BECAUSE HE MAKES GOOD MOVIES AND FROZEN IS A PIECE OF SHIT"
>>228403 That being said, I (as the poster of >>228401) just want to point out--I'm not saying this as an attack on Ghibli. I love Ghibli, and I don't think anyone in their right mind would call Ghibli lazy--they HAND DRAW things that would be a lot of work to do on computer. That storm scene in Ponyo made me exhausted just LOOKING at it.
I'm just pointing out what I see as a double standard among Internet Armchair Critics.
>For its upcoming Halloween special, though, Phineas And Ferb isn’t even going to pretend that it’s not secretly pandering to adults. According to IGN, the special will feature Simon Pegg and Nick Frost reprising their roles as Shaun and Ed from Edgar Wright’s Shaun Of The Dead.
Honestly can't think of anything more left field than this.
>From Walt Disney Animation Studios comes Moana, a sweeping, CG-animated comedy-adventure about a spirited teenager on an impossible mission to fulfill her ancestors’ quest. A born navigator, Moana sets sail from the ancient South Pacific islands of Oceania in search of a fabled island. During her incredible journey, she teams up with her hero, the legendary demi-god Maui, to traverse the open ocean on an action-packed voyage, encountering enormous sea creatures, breathtaking underworlds and ancient folklore. Directed by the renowned filmmaking team of Ron Clements and John Musker, Moana arrives in theaters in late 2016.
>>230808 Interesting choice considering they already tackled this part of the world with Lilo and Stitch, sorta. Waiting for them to do a film set in indigenous Australia, continental Africa, or maybe even central Asia, like with Otoyomegatari.
>>231603 >We need something like this. Eh. Japan's proven to be a market where this sort of venture is sustainable. Imagine getting western metalheads to listen to Disney music. I doubt the money they'd put into it have a proper return.
>>231619 Plenty of things have come about because Disney didn't particularly want to though. I'm pretty sure Wreck-It Ralph happened from a "Sure, go ahead" instead of a "This is a great idea and will surely bring in profit!"
>>231751 It was really fun and enjoyable! But I sorta feel like it didn't live up to its own standards? Like, Wreck it Ralph is a perfectly fine flick but it doesn't really do anything with its story beyond the formula.
A few days ago I watched Frozen for the first time and outside of the sudden resolution of the main conflict, I thought it was a fine film. Nothing really made me laugh out loud, but I did smile at a couple of scenes. All the characters were fun--including Olaf, who had all the signs of being an annoying talking object. Even though the movie sticks to the Disney formula, it managed to subvert a few of 'em. The big one being the focus on family love over a romantic one. Looking at the art book scans spoiled the reveal of Han's true character, but way the movie has him mimic the personality of whoever he's talking to was well done. Nicely subtle.
>>232286 Okay I don't watch the show at all, but I want you to let me know if I've got this right Elsa from Frozen and Cinderella (?) are in lesbians together and are off to get married. Is that right?
>>232287 It's Elsa walking with Anna, who's about to get married to Kristoff. The thing is, Kristoff was barely present in the Frozen arc of OUAT (acting more like a plot device) and the ending shot is Elsa and Anna walking off like they're about to be married.
>>232725 >>232731 >complaints about sexism DOES make you a pathetic SJW. You've got a point, but you are coming off way too hostile. I wouldn't say that everyone who claims this is "sexist" is an SJW, but I would say they need to stop being so goddamn sensitive over nothing.
>>232742 From the way Tween sitcoms have the same formula of Bratty "Sister", Dumbass "Dad" and Neurotic "Mother". It wouldn't surprise me if they were attempting to connect with some group though that repeated old stuff.
>>232743 You say that as though it's something that's more common in Tween sitcoms than any other sitcoms. Pretty much any Domcom is going to have that setup--the ones that don't are often remarkable for not indulging in that setup.
>>232744 Currently Disney has one of those on their branded channel that being Girl Meets World where the characters appears to have substance beyond being the usual vapid Airheads. I think it works in part because its not trying to be a constant onslaught of jokes from the "funny" character. Dog with a Blog is fucking insufferable.
>>233247 Anybody suck it up enough to watch Fifty Shades? Word is the movie is actually kinda OK since bad prose was the cause of a lot of the original book's suckiness. And honestly from what I can tell the original work seems a lot tamer than the furor raised around it made it out to be. It's still a bad representation of BDSM but it's less The Turner Diaries for women's rights and just another low-quality erotic novel that inexplicably made it big.
The text itself is tame, but the subtext—that the book glorifies an emotionally abusive relationship, regardless of how much Ana consents to Christian’s sexual whims—is far more insidious. But that’s a discussion for /mtv/, I suppose.
>>233300 You're an idiot. She wasn't "defending" the book. She was calling it trash and saying that as long as people know it's trash when they're reading it, there's no reason to get on their case about it.
Which is what I've been saying about Twilight and 50 Shades and all that sort of thing all along. It's pornography. Men don't expect our pornography to be well written, why is it so important to give women crap for their pornography being poorly written?
>>233302 Do "they?" I have never been hassled by a woman about viewing pornography. The closest I've come to being hassled by a woman about my pornography habits is that one girl I know once thought it was silly of me to keep porn on my harddrive when you can just stream anything you need these days.
If anything, her stance of "yea it's bad but as long as people understand it's fiction and won't corrupt people then it's fine to like it" is the antithesis of SJW's "it triggers me and it can make impressionable people do bad things so it should be censored".
>>233310 While I'm not quiet pervy enough to watch it because of the characters (yet) I got to say that the look of the show is amazing. Overall, many shows aimed at little kids look awesome, even though their audience doesn't care, while most shows aimed at older kids, like TMNT, look awful.
I miss the times when nobody tried to combine 3D with anime tropes which have been out of date since Sailor Moon.
>>233397 Am I the only one who doesn't really like Lego Movie all that much? Visually it was fantastic to look at, but a lot of the writing and comedy was juvenile and not in a multiple-demographic appeal kind of way. And tons of cameos do not a good movie make.
>>233402 Maybe put down your posterboard and pitchfork, yeah? Book of Life was just "okay". Not to mention the female character designs were awful - before I watched the movie I was convinced that La Muerte and Maria were the same character in different costumes.
>>233402 Well, I didn't want to get all Primary School "everyone gets a gold star" about it, but my point was that all the nominees and even the leftovers that didn't get nominated all had something going for them quality-wise. Some were more commercial than others, but none of them felt like soulless cashgrabs, they all had heart.
That's why I don't mind BH6 getting the statue, even taking into account how much its win was down to it being the only cartoon the dumb-as-rocks Oscar voters were dragged by their kids to see last year: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/award-season-focus/proof-that-oscar-voters-are-clueless-about-animation-109456.html >Voter #5: I only watch the ones that my kid wants to see, so I didn’t see Boxtrolls but I saw Big Hero 6 and I saw Dragon. We both connected to Big Hero 6 — I just found it to be more satisfying. The biggest snub for me was Chris Miller and Phil Lord not getting in for Lego. When a movie is that successful and culturally hits all the right chords and does that kind of box-office — for that movie not to be in over these two obscure freakin’ Chinese fuckin’ things that nobody ever freakin’ saw? That is my biggest bitch. Most people didn’t even know what they were! How does that happen? That, to me, is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen.
>Song of the Sea >obscure freakin’ Chinese fuckin’ thing
>An all-new DuckTales, an animated comedy series based on the Emmy Award-winning series beloved by a generation of viewers, has been ordered for launch in 2017 on Disney XD channels around the world. Set to be produced by Disney Television Animation, the new series will again star Disney's enduringly popular characters: Scrooge McDuck, his grandnephews Huey, Dewey and Louie, and Donald Duck. The announcement was made today by Marc Buhaj, Senior Vice President, Programming and General Manager, Disney XD.
>Buhaj said, "DuckTales' has a special place in Disney's TV animation history, it drew its inspiration from Disney Legend Carl Barks' comic books and through its storytelling and artistic showmanship, set an enduring standard for animated entertainment that connects with both kids and adults. Our new series will bring that same energy and adventurous spirit to a new generation."
>According to the studio press release, the new series' will "once again take viewers along as Scrooge McDuck, his curious and mischief-making grandnephews -- Huey, Dewey and Louie -- and the optimistic yet temperamental Donald Duck embark on high-flying adventures worldwide. Other beloved characters slated to be in the new stories are: Duckworth, Gyro Gearloose, Launchpad McQuack, Flintheart Glomgold, Magica DeSpell & Poe, Ma Beagle and the Beagle Boys (Burger Beagle, Bouncer Beagle), Mrs. Beakley and Webbigail Vanderquack."
>Deadline reports that following a strong performance in China - a territory which is becoming more and more important to a movie's box office performance - Big Hero 6 has now crossed the $600 million mark worldwide with a current cume of $604.8 million (that's made up of $221.3 million domestically and $383.5 million internationally). That means it now sits behind Frozen and The Lion King as the third highest grossing Disney Animation release of all-time, and between this and its big awards season wins, you have to wonder how much longer it will be before a sequel is officially announced.
Well they want attention for doing something progressive. While we've got Pearls recent revelations about her feelings and relationship with rose in the past and Korra and Asami at the end being a growth of character.
its basically how screwed up Batwoman came in when she was introduced as "the lesbian" as her defining character trait instead of being part of her character.
She's likely a replacement for Daala being Moff and all.
>>233813 I've got an idea of how it could be done. Anna out looking for a companion for Elsa who is still very reclusive. Fire Element aligned individual of some kind. Maybe just as reclusive for similar reasons. Anna working on bringing them together.
>>235090 >POC Eh, I find that term REALLY annoying and condescending, speaking as one myself. Just saying nonwhite is fine. We all know what you mean, and it's way more clear than Goalpost Moving: The Word which I've seen plastered numerous times onto the Irish, Greeks (umm... Golden Dawn anyone?), and Ukrainians.
POC is actually a useful term sometimes. It's perfectly valid when talking specifically about American racial issues, considering the US's history of explicitly colorist policies. But I hate what Tumblr's done to the term and how it tries to shoehorn this square peg into to round holes where the term doesn't make any sense. For example Latin American ethnic politics, where the idea of "race" is way different enough so a wealthy half-African might be considered "whiter" than a poor mixed person with more European background, or two full-blood siblings might be considered different races.
Or for discussions about East Asia where discussions of POC are completely irrelevant because everybody already qualifies as one, and that never stopped a lot of the horrible racism that goes on there. Or hell, a lot of talk about Tumblr's concept of "privilege" in general, considering Chinese culture is often considered "privileged" in a lot of countries yet the actual Chinese people living there face a lot of discrimination.
>>235113 Last heard about it few years back it was Stuffy Rabbit Cop lady new to the force and the only rabbit teamed with a Slacker Fox Conman type. And there is some big mystery. I like the idea of so many different animals living together. From what has been seen I get a real Mega City One feel of things.
Hope if they are trying the filter thing again all the bugs are worked out. That was what limited Tangled is that when they put the filter in over the characters it went all to hell.
>But what makes the Tangled series so special is the amount of talent that they’ve retained from the original feature film. This new series will feature Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi reprising their roles of Rapunzel and Flynn Rider (nee Eugene) from the movie and showcase new songs from Academy Award-winning composer Alan Menken and lyricist Glenn Slater, who were responsible for all of those catchy tunes in the original film. Clare Keane, daughter of Disney Legend Glen Keane (who at one point was the director on a very different version of the film and who later served as an animation supervisor), consulted on the film. They’re really getting the band back together. This is roughly the equivalent of snagging Robin Williams for the Aladdin television series.
>>243275 >the criticisms of Maui as a comedic character So, kind of like the guys in India who got mad at Clone High over Gandhi or at SMT for making Krishna a villain in one of the games, even though almost all gods in that game are evil/monstrous? Those people are usually on the nationalistic side and not worth listening to anyway. Kinda like the vocal minority of Japanese people who get offended by outside media criticizing Hirohito and Tojo, or American rednecks pissy over Hamilton being "disrespectful" to the Founding Fathers.
>>243286 I just find the hand-wringing from conservative nerds complaining about "political correctness gone mad" to be exhausting, especially when the stuff they're complaining about is just people talking about shit they don't like on the internet. As though those people shouldn't be allowed to talk about how they don't like something.
"I'm offended" and "this is offensive" are not the same thing. Many people who complain about things being offensive need to learn that fact, but so do a lot of people who complain about "outrage culture." And becoming outraged about outrage doesn't do anything to fight outrage culture, it just encourages it and makes it more hilariously hypocritical.
>>243288 I'm the one you're responding to and you got it all wrong. I never said they didn't have the right to complain like you so kindly strawmanned me. My point isn't that the complaints posted in the link sound like political correctness but the opposite. People offended at a heroic portrayal of MUH MAUI for being goofy because it isn't the portrayal they grew up with sound like the same kind of people who get butthurt over Captain America being gay, Hamilton having a POC cast, or turning Jesus into a "Commie" skateboarder.
Aka chances are they come from the traditionalist/socially conservative wing of Pacific Islander society. Course they might not actually be. Maybe it turns out Pacific Islander religion really does have a hard rule like Islam on banning pictures of Mohammed, and the article isn't 100% clear on who's saying what, but otherwise it reminds me of how ultra-nationalists in other countries freak out when foreigners adapt their culture "wrong".
They can complain all they want but it's possible they're the last people progressives should be listening to but often end up doing because they didn't look up the regional politics hard enough. Like the people in India who freaked out over MUH GANDHI AND MUH KRISHNA are generally the same people promoting anti-Muslim hysteria and trying to get English textbooks to erase any mention of castes or sati because "racism". FFS that very article mentions other native Hawaiians are piping up to the defense of this movie so it's not something actual conservatives need to freak out over either.
Aren't' you doing the same thing? You're getting outraged at the outrage over outrage culture. That is, if we're using the term "outrage" to define "snarky bitter commentary on stupid behavior" which is what the post you were replying to was doing.
So possible Title being Super Wreck-It Ralph. And involving the internet in some manner. Partly wondering how the internet would figure in but in the time of wireless I guess its not too far an idea of a "Smart" arcade cabinet.
>>245272 It's 2017, and girls kicking ass physically has been a major trope in TV and movies since at least the 70's. Certainly since the days of Buffy the Vampire Slayer I don't know if you can call it so much "progressive" as "status quo" these days.
Progressive would be making her a lesbian or trans or some shit.
I guess that make sense, that's more like the Uncle Scrooge comics and the supposed reasons Donald wasn't in the original show (that he'd overshadow Scrooge; Roy E. Disney's dislike of TV animation because its poor reputation back then) don't really apply anymore.
>>245399 Disney television series, not a Disney movie. As long as the writing is good, passable animation is fine in my books. And plus, it's a preview. I don't know the workflow of western cartoons but maybe it's just the earliest complete parts they could show. Or maybe they aren't in the groove of making it. Only time can tell.
>>245399 >BUT........ I seen independent animation, sometimes made FOR FREE, look BETTER than that. I completely agree, but it's not a good comparison to make.
Independent hobbyist animation is a completely different ballgame, especially in this decade. They're often much shorter, don't require an entire series to be made, and lack deadlines. Plus, professional televised animation tends to lack the passion of hobbyist animation. A passionate artist will go back and fix mistakes, for art's sake. A professional animator often has deadlines up their ass, and a preset, economical end result they are told to make. Artistic flair will be inconsistent with the rest of the animation, and we can't have that!
And if they aren't half-dead machines, they get fired.