>>228885 Yea they are still using a system that has shown a steady decrease in their market since its introduction and that really never transitioned well for cable and now that cable is dying and things are going to digital services. Its damned near useless unless one is looking at broadcast television and even then it loses a good portion that only watch the web uploads on the Network site or wait for the again Digital Service copies. They really need to update their thinking.
I think it has to do with how long it takes episodes to get made and the ridiculously huge contract CN just signed for more episodes (they renewed the show for 52 more episodes even before half of the first 52 aired).
85 eleven-minute episodes of an animated show don't just fall out of the sky, you know.
>>229317 >I think it has to do with how long it takes episodes to get made
Right. Not all animated shows of the same length take the same time to make. I used Excel to check the "cyclic" release rate (i.e. days between show's premier and most recent season premiere divided by episodes before the most recent season) for a bunch of a shows in days per episode. For Cartoon Network's quarter-hour stuff, it can be as little as 8 or 9 (Teen Titans Go!, Regular Show, Adventure Time) to about two weeks (Uncle Grandpa, Gumball) or even 17 (MAD).
Steven Universe is already on the slower side: if the second season premiere happened right after the first season ended, that would average about 13 days per episode, and if it takes past January of next year it, will surpass MAD as the slowest. But it's a very nicely animated show, so I don't mind if it takes longer than usual.
>>229544 Besides them necessarily being aliens. They might have been created on Earth. And >>229539 seems to imply they're either born fully grown or have a very different life cycle. Which probably means Steven being born and growing like a human means he'll die of old age the same as a human.
>>229551 I consider myself pretty up-to-date on the terminology regarding legit trans people and I have no idea what that means. Why do people do this? Every fandom has them. I swear I've seen people claiming that Solid Snake, Megaman, and Joseph Joestar are trans with zero proof and no hint of irony. Why bother? And how does that improve anything for actual trans people (the most common excuse given)? All I can see it doing is make them look even more like a joke or like nutcases which is a shitty enough situation as it is.
>>229590 Some people just want trans representation any way they can get it even if it doesn't make sense, because there's so little of it. Another large portion is trolls and teenagers who are saying it to purposefully be ridiculous, and discredit the notion.
>>229591 Blaming Poe's law is tempting but doesn't explain its popularity in about every fandom these days or why so many clearly nontrolls swaer by them and defend the people who make them. The thing about it is though, most of the people doing this. Aren't. Even. Trans. Or if they claim to be, they're Otherkins or whatever masquerading as transsexuals. You know the faeself types. If anything it's just making a mockery of trans identities.
>>229597 Mostly I hate it cuz a lot of these "progressives" use the most fucked up sexist logic to justify mangling canon for the sake of supposed diversity and representation. A girl isn't the most ultra-stereotypical girly girl? Obviously they must be trans, because anybody who likes playing video games or wearing pants or has boobs smaller than D cups can possibly be female, nope. And if someone isn't a bald steroid monster or enjoys having their nails done they must be a trans girl. Fucking shitting on real-life trans people that's what.
I feel like it's a great time to point out how touchy Pearl was, and has been in previous episodes.
When Pearl gets upset, she likes to hold onto people. She was very clingy to Garnet this episode, but it's not the first time she was like this. In Cheeseburger Backpack, she was like this to Steven and in So Many Birthdays she was hiding behind Garnet at one point and during the final scene, she was clinging to Amethyst.
It's a pretty subtle personality point for her, but it's one that's consistent and pretty funny to watch. I'll have to rewatch some eps to see if there's more incidents
>>230138 I think it's triggered by love/compassion. Thinking back to cookie cat and when he first met Connie.
What I find interesting about this episode is the animosity between the crystals and other gems. Maybe some sort of classism, like based on the purity of the stone? Why did they come to earth at all? Is it a prison for corrupt gems? Are the crystals trying to undo a catastrophic event of some sort? Damn you Rebecca, leading me on like this. Glad the series didn't end here. That would have pissed me off big time.
>>230148 >Glad the series didn't end here. That would have pissed me off big time. There was no chance of that happening: this is actually just the midway point of the first season, not the season finale.
>>230148 >What I find interesting about this episode is the animosity between the crystals and other gems. Maybe some sort of classism, like based on the purity of the stone? Why did they come to earth at all? Is it a prison for corrupt gems? Are the crystals trying to undo a catastrophic event of some sort?
The clearest difference is in priorities: Garnet, Pearl, and Amethyst want to protect the earth even at the cost to other gems; Lapis has a blatant disregard for the earth and the lives of its residence.
And were they even saying the ones who were corrupted into monsters are a different "kind/group" of gem than the crystal gems? I don't remember the wording.
>What I find interesting about this episode is the animosity between the crystals and other gems. Maybe some sort of classism, like based on the purity of the stone? Why did they come to earth at all? Is it a prison for corrupt gems? Are the crystals trying to undo a catastrophic event of some sort?
There is a clue in the episode Cookie Cat, "Cookie Cat, Refuge from an interstellar war, Cookie Cat, He left his family behind" *Garnet and Amethyst look at each other in shock
At the end of the episode the Gems worry about Lapis having made it home and what will appear, based on the way Lapis refers to the Crystal Gems they appear to be a sub-race or faction that left during some kind of war that she was part of but now rejects, having arrived on earth and bringing their technology, two theories exist on the corruption of the other gems that might both be true, one is that out of their natural habitat they have no means of perfectly maintaining themselves and Roses' various fountains and the like are attempts to achieve healthy conditions for the gems. The other is that gem technology is based almost entirely on slavery which after this episode appears to be very true, The gems order the objects like the mirrors and get very angry when they don't behave properly, additionally many of the monsters are theorized to have been technology fusions that hollowed out and fused to their technology, the war may have been over this and how to deal with the monsters created when the go out of control. Continuing the Dark Souls comparisons Rose probably didn't approve of the Undead Asylum and probably attempted to make Earth something like a hospital for gems but still needed to rely on the slavery based technology despite it upsetting her and failed to discover any way to heal them and ended having to imprison them so they wouldn't hurt people, which is why ONLY Rose has been shown to power things directly off her gem, the others use it more like a key when they interact with technology. The Final Episode of the season is called "The Return" and it's being guessed that Lapis is returning with the other faction of the war to "rescue" the monsters.
>>230154 >And were they even saying the ones who were corrupted into monsters are a different "kind/group" of gem than the crystal gems? I don't remember the wording. I picked that up from when Lapis told Steven "You're one of them! One of the crystal gems!" and her shock that she was released by one. "Did you even know who I used to be?!" Seems to come from a mindset of oppression. Though that may have just been an effect of the gems assuming she was still corrupt, thus mindless, and her misinterpreting their lack of attempting to communicate with a lack of compassion.
>>230493 >Doubt his slacker dad will do anything about it in the long run though. Now hold up. First off, Greg may be kinda lazy, but implying that he wouldn't do what's best for Steven is entirely unjustified. It's been shown several times that he cares deeply about Steven and his safety and is willing to do anything for him. Secondly, does anything need to be done? Pearl came to her senses and realized her mistake. Despite the mature themes and deeper meanings, this is still a children's show. Good people are allowed to apologize for bad mistakes and be forgiven.
>>230622 >First off, Greg may be kinda lazy, but implying that he wouldn't do what's best for Steven is entirely unjustified.
If that were true, now that he knows how dangerous fighting gem monsters and the gem themselves are, he would have cut off Steven from them.
But he won't, because it's a kid's action cartoon. If he did that, the cartoon would end prematurely or he'd be setup as an annoying obstacle, which I again doubt the writers want to do. It's going to be something that the writers will simply ignore, just like other kid's action cartoons.
>>230625 >If that were true, now that he knows how dangerous fighting gem monsters and the gem themselves are, he would have cut off Steven from them.
Doing what's best for someone doesn't always mean keeping them out of harm's way 24/7. Steven has shown his dad first-hand that he is capable of defending himself, and whatever reason Greg let the gems have such a large hand in raising him still stands.
You know, it occurs to me that we know very little about why Steven lives with the gems. I assume it was to ensure that he received the training he needed to master his gem powers, but how exactly did the decision go down? What convinced Greg, who by all indications wants to be a loving and attentive father, to give up custody? Was Rose somehow involved in the decision? So many Q's.
So if a gem splits into shards, the shards are still active and able to manifest parts of bodies.
This has some weird implications. Are they sentient or have any memories of when they were a whole? Does every part of the gem correspond to a part of the bodies they make (like a gem losing a chip would result in their body missing pieces)? Are the Crystal Gems holding onto them because they can somehow be repaired or for... something else?
That went weird places I did not expect. This show keeps surprising me.
And seriously, I think it has my favorite character designs in... any cartoon ever. Everyone looks so distinct and expressive, but aesthetically pleasing at the same time. Lars especially looks bizarre at first, but had a bunch of really great expression in this episode. I'm also impressed that it had Lars and Sadie making out without it being super-weird looking.
Ronaldo wasn't as funny in the actual show as I'd expected from his blog. Maybe I was just bothered by how the whole episode takes the bit about no one noticing or caring how weird the gems are to the most baffling extent possible.
It's exactly what they are: the public don't just accept the gems as normal, they're ignorant of what they are and ignore everything they do as much as possible.
Kofi treats his shop being destroyed during a monster attack like someone getting a fender bender. Nanafua assumed the gems were as old as they looked instead of thousands of years old. The only reason people complained about the whole ocean disappearing was its effect on tourism.
It's hard to tell if there's any real reason, or just that the writers don't want to write about global consequences and such and are being self-aware about it.
>>231375 The temple door has five gems on it because there are five gems amongst the Crystal Gems; one each for Amethyst, Pearl, and Rose, and two for Garnet. Garnet uses both of her gems to open the door to her room. If there is something weird about Garnet having two gems, the door doesn't seem to be related to that.
>Almost every episode has contributed an essential piece of knowledge either about the characters or to Steven's knowledge which prove to be essential plot points.
>i.e.Steven and Connie taking the sword from inside Lion and now adequately understanding how and where it comes from. >Sadie teaching Steven what a VHS is >Pearl telling Steven "you DO need air to breath >Steven's bubbles can allow him to breath (though he hasn't put that together yet)
Rose only used plant familiars, the inside of Lions mane is a pink grass land, Rose's signature plant is a flowery moss that is a low gem lifeform that has a pink flower. Lion is a plant based golem like protector created for Steven.
>Isn't it remarkable, Steven? This world is full of so many possibilities. Each living thing has an entirely unique experience. The sights they see, the sounds they hear...the lives they live...are so complicated, and so simple. I can't wait for you to join them. >Steven, we can't both exist. I'm going to become half of you. And I need you to know that every moment you love being yourself, that's me, loving you, and loving being you! Because you're going to be something extraordinary. You're going to be a human being. Take care of them, Steven.
I (and I'm sure other people) figured that Steven having Rose's gem made him as much her reincarnation as her son but never thought they'd be so explicit about it. And that way she put it was just... beautiful. I'd never come close to thinking about it that way.
Just to reiterate: the show did exactly what I expected it to do, but I'm still completely surprised. Jesus, this show.
>>231835 >>231836 And all this: the way it does world-building is just so amazing. Most of it comes from small bits of exposition for what's immediately relevant to the plot or in freeze-frame shots. But it all comes together to make a very cogent setting where you can figure out a decent amount of things without them being said. But even when you're right, it surprises you in other ways!
I wonder if the more they fuse the more they'd have a new personality, makes me think of things I read about transformer combiners with a new personality growing stronger the longer they are together. Its also been noted that the Sword and Shield would be the perfect size for that Brown Amazon.
>>232551 Well, with Alexandrite, it seems like the more beings you fuse, the LESS stable the fusion is in terms of personality. Opal and Sugelite showed a clear and distinct personality, but Alexandrite didn't.
>>232578 This just looks like a part of CN's shifting schedule. We have an entire 52 episode season after the first is done and the schedule will continue to shift around as it does. I wouldn't worry about it.
>>232593 Same thing happened with regular show a few years ago and it's still going. So I'm not worried in the least until we have anything resembling official word. No point in panic or fear until we actually have something to be afraid of. At most I'm mildly concerned.
>>232590 I don't think that's it, as Pearl suggested that Garnet fuse with her instead of forming Sugelite with Amethyst. That could be Pearl overestimating her controlling influence on the fusion, but I'm more ready to believe she knew that Pearl+Garnet was more controlled than Amethyst+Garnet.
>>232590 Sugelite wasn't unstable as a transformation, putting Garnet and Amethyst's personality together was just a bad idea that needed to stop. Alexandrite required three gems all thinking and agreeing together, which especially with Pearl and Amethyst was bound to be unstable.
>When I was working on ‘Alone Together’ over a year ago I remember being struck with a REALLY dire need to draw Stevonnie in an Utena Duelist uniform… Anyway I recently found the sketch I did of it so I cleaned it up and here it is. I hope someone understands this. - Katie Mitroff
After this episode, I'm thinking if Peridot appears again and manages to trust the gems, she'd actually be pretty useful to Steven as someone who can just flatly critique him without worrying so much about him taking it personally, since he doesn't see her as a parental figure.
>>232768 It seems unlikely that Peridot will have anything to do with the crystal gems, but your thesis might still be on point if Lapis returns. While she's friendly to Steven personally, she doesn't have the same approach to him as the crystal gems do.