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KORRA BOOK 4: EPISODE 10 DISCUSSION THREAD - OPERATION: BEIFONG
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In an effort to redeem himself to Opal for his time spent in The Earth Empire's forces, Bolin has joined her and Chief Beifong in a secret mission to rescue the rest of their family from Kuvira's clutches. Meanwhile, Kuvira has been plenty busy harvesting vines from the Swamp that are quite potent with spiritual energy. What kind of super weapon is she aiming to build? Can Opal, Lin, and Bolin successful reuinite the Beifong clan?

Check it out at 12 Noon EST Friday 12/5 on Nick.com (free with ads), the Nick mobile App (free with ads). Amazon Video around 3AM EST. Also Available on Google Play, Xbox Video, and iTunes! $1.99 per episode, $2.99 for HD, Season passes go for $21.99 SD and $29.99 HD.
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Anonymous
>118660
And Korra will be trucking about the spirit world looking for some thing to do about the spirit energy.
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Daniel FUCKING Murphy, Hitting Machine
>118661

Ah crap, I knew I was forgetting something!

I can't believe there's only two more weeks of Korra stuff after this before it's over and done. It's gonna be a hell of a rollercoaster. I hope everyone savors it.
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Anonymous
I love Su's fighting style so much.
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Daniel FUCKING Murphy, Hitting Machine
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It's late as fuck, just got done. Without spoilering

>this episode

Further thoughts later on
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Anonymous
Aand animation is back to greatness.
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Anonymous
Also, this was probably the best metalbending fight.
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Anonymous
>118665

had to play by Anime rules I guess, everything goes into the back four, if you know what you are doing.
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Anonymous
So, can we all put the “who’s Lin’s dad” discussion to bed now?
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Anonymous
Great episode, loved every minute, especially the Suyin vs Kuvira fight.

But can I take a moment to appreciate just how fucking silly the spirit weapon's design is? The thing is literally the Schwerer Gustav with some sci-fi ray gun shit on the back of it! Why on the Avatar's green earth would they build a weapon like that, when Varrick already showed them that it would be far easier to just make bombs out of the spirit vines? Why build a weapon that can only go where there are parallel train tracks of the right gauge and if there's a mishap could potentially blow up your own forces? Why does an energy beam weapon need a long gun barrel!? WHY DOES THAT BARREL NEED TO BE RIFLED?!?!?! YOU PEOPLE DON"T EVEN HAVE REGULAR GUNS, HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT RIFLING IS?!

Bataar Jnr. isn't just a bad engineer, it takes some imaginative incompetence to come up with a design this bad.
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Anonymous
Also, is it just me, or are Asami and Varrick cooking up Songbird from Bioshock Infinite?
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Anonymous
>118670
Baatar is a really badly written character in general (unless that was done on purpose, in which case shame on you Bryke for making such a shallow villain).
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Anonymous
>118672
I think a lot of that is the VA's fault actually. He's got zero subtlety and makes a lot of retarded noises that can't be blamed on the script.
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Anonymous
>118670
Maybe bombs might be too heavy for the show? I know they had them in book 1 too, maybe they deliberately decided to go with something different. Or she does have bombs too.

I just hope that thing isn't the colossus.
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Anonymous
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How soon until the wave of porn hits us? I have my stopwatch rolling and I'm ready to go.
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>118670
That's likely due to the references they are using for their Track Artillery. Eastern Anime would use the same reference point.
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Anonymous
>118675
That was a cute scene, even if it hit me more as just him petting Bolin like a good dog.
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Anonymous
>118676
Oh I get the reference, I got the reference the moment I clapped eyes on that thing. My problem is that, as a weapon design concept, it doesn't make a lick of sense. You have just unlocked the ability to tap into a source of tremendous power and you plan to weaponise it, but said source of tremendous power can be a tad unstable, do you: A) Build a bomb that is designed to harness said instability, is extremely portable, and is well away from your own forces when it goes off, or B) build an energy beam cannon that isn't anymore powerful than a bomb, doesn't conserve spirit vines, is very limited in its mobility, and is still located within your forces when it goes off, so if there's an accident it could easily wipe you out instead of the enemy.
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Anonymous
>118677
If the delusional Korrasami shippers are still rolling with their thing, I'm gonna go ahead and get behind Weilin. They can get their rocks off together, burrow each other's caves and play in sweet sweet mud.

wait
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Anonymous
>118678

Hmm, if I remember correctly, in season one the United Forces navy used a similar thing to help direct firebending over long distances (such as in the Air/Sea battle with the Equalists). Chances are they attempted to modify that design into the cannon we see in the show, only rather than directing fire it's modified to allow better aiming than just exposing the side of the machine to people as it fires randomly in one direction.

The exploding thing is probably there to allow the heroes to disable the cannons easier, while also potentially hinting how Kuvira will probably end up doing herself in.

Plus, y'know. A cannon can be used more than once, while bombs would use up the already finite amount of spirit vines faster. That and having outright attempting to nuke Republic City (rather than the metaphorical atomic bomb that was the enhanced firebending in the Airbender finale) would be a bit much for a kid's show.
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Anonymous
>118679
Honestly, Wei/Bolin struck me as a lot gayer in these few seconds than Korrasami, where like 80% of the scenes they cite as evidence really aren't at all, unless you consider talking to someone at all and not treating them like shit means you love them, and the remaining 20% which does qualify is way more ambiguous than they act like it is.
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Anonymous
>118679
>118681
Bolin clearly doesn't return the affection so it's all one-sided anyway.
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Anonymous
Why did Raiko agree to evacuate an entire city when he has no evidence that Kuvira is going to attack them? Why does Bolin think Kuvira is going to attack Republic City with the cannon when she never mentioned doing this? Until Zhu Li mentioned Kuvira was planning to attack Republic City there was no evidence that Kuvira was going to attack Republic City. Bryke screwed up the writing as they had everyone prepare for an attack by Kuvira before this attack was even announced.

Also why is Kuvira going to attack Republic City? If she doesn't have a good motive for doing this then she's just being a villain so the story can have a villain.
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Anonymous
>118681
Preach! Korrasami is a sad, sad ship the likes of which we haven't seen since ATLA.

>118682
That's what makes it so naughty~
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118683

The answer to all of your questions lies in another question: what soil is the Republic of Nations built on?
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Anonymous
>118683
You're so diligent, like clockwork.
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Um, hi, excuse me? I'd like to discuss some minor inconsistencies and oddities found in this week's episode.

Why does the "rehabilitation" of Suyin Beifong and her family consist of hanging from a wooden cage? What's more, why is the entirety of her family there with her? Why did her husband need to be there too? Is there overcrowding in the detention facility? Wouldn't it be smarter to split them all up in different holding cells?
The cage was also located inside of a cave, with rocks all around them. Couldn't they bend the material even from that distance? We've seen earth benders lift huge chunks of rocks from long distances away before. They had to put Ghazan in the middle of the sea for this very reason.

Then there's Zhu Li. A brilliant tactician who "never makes any mistakes." Then she pulls a vital pin from the cannon and keeps it on her person at all times. Why would she do this? Does anyone know the answer to any of these questions? Email me a response, and in return I will send you a pizza roll. Thank you.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118687

>Why does the "rehabilitation" of Suyin Beifong and her family consist of hanging from a wooden cage?

Because 'rehabilitation' is what you might call coded language for simple imprisonment.

>What's more, why is the entirety of her family there with her? Why did her husband need to be there too? Is there overcrowding in the detention facility? Wouldn't it be smarter to split them all up in different holding cells?

This is a little valid. The real answer is that it allowed the scene to be more compact. There would have been no storytelling benefit to keep them separated. Still, diegetically it might just be that it seemed like too much work and space would be needed to build a whole set of those suspended cages.

>The cage was also located inside of a cave, with rocks all around them. Couldn't they bend the material even from that distance? We've seen earth benders lift huge chunks of rocks from long distances away before. They had to put Ghazan in the middle of the sea for this very reason.

No, because whenever you've seen Earthbenders move earth at a distance, they've had contact with the ground. A lot of the time they even do a visual representation of the energy moving through the ground.

>Then there's Zhu Li. A brilliant tactician who "never makes any mistakes."

According to who? Varrick?

>Then she pulls a vital pin from the cannon and keeps it on her person at all times. Why would she do this?

Probably was hoping it would blow before they found the problem. And no opportunity to dispose of it securely.

I will accept my pizza rolls now.
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Anonymous
>118684
>Korrasami is a sad, sad ship the likes of which we haven't seen since ATLA.
Sometimes I wonder what you people have against fun.
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Anonymous
>118689
There's just a shipping war brewing (or maybe it's already happening) over on tumblr and people are getting really... personal about it. So it might just be spilling over.
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Anonymous
>118689
I have nothing against anyone. I just find it pathetic how the majority of the Korrasami people are 100% convinced without a shadow of a doubt that they're in love with one another, and the writers are in on it but the MAN is keeping them down. Seriously, just take a stroll through Tumblr and you'll see what I mean.

I'm all for fun crackships, like >118675, but the sad thing about Korrasami is that they don't THINK it's crack.
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Anonymous
>118681
Nah had he held his hand to his face, yea. But nah that pat was patronizing as hell.
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Anonymous
>118692
That was a lusty love pat, shut up.
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Anonymous
>118692
>118694
IMO it's a mix of both.
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Anonymous
>118689
First two seasons it was literally a crackship. Seasons 3 gave it one or two nods, and Season 4 gave it another with the hug scene, but that's about it. Anything else is egregious shipping goggles and reading way too into things. I disagree with >118691 that Korrasami is still a true crackship now (IMO those few hints are worth at least something, even if it's ultimately very little) but it's got nowhere as much in-universe legitimacy as its shippers claim it has, and they're absolutely right about said shippers' tendency for incredibly bad behavior. I've seen so many instances of its shippers being as aggressive, hostile, or as delusional as the Zutara fans used to be, or as Gundam Wing fujoshi were in the Toonami era. That certain Korrasami namefag on this board I will not mention actually comes off as fairly moderate compared to the rest of them.
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Anonymous
What is it with this one that generates so much bitter nonsense? I don't get it.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
There was also the whole 'only feels comfortable sending letters to Asami' thing. I'm pretty skeptical of it becoming canon my own self but I think calling it a crackship is disingenuous and unfair.

A crackship is one that doesn't make any sense: it would require wildly out-of-character actions, or the characters never met, or something like that. Zuko/Katara was a crackship until really late in the game (last half of the third season), at which point it became plausible, even if it was still really obviously not becoming canon. Ironically, this is around the point in time that the Zutara fans began to see the writing on the wall and started kicking up a terrible fuss, even though their beloved ship had only just then started to make some sense.

Korra/Asami is obviously not that. They're close friends, they care about each other, etc. The ship makes sense. It's just probably not going to be canonized.
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Anonymous
>118698
Its likely going to be very open ended or something along the lines of KLK where vague and confusing enough that it can be argued either way. Though from the interviews it does sound like Korra unattached with maybe some hints for later.
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Anonymous
Fuck you guys, a giant canon on train tracks that can punch a hole in a mountain is COOL AS FUCK. Wantin' it to be bombs or some shit...
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Anonymous
>118700
It's sort of awkward and clunky.
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Anonymous
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>118700

Probably call that hole "Kuvira's eye" or something in the future.
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Anonymous
>118660
SCREW THE CANNON! Who the hell is Konto!?
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>118703
Some dude, didn't work out. Should be a question in the next interview.
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Anonymous
>118703
Someone who doesn't matter anymore. Bryke deliberately made him some nobody because they said back in book 1 who Lin's dad is isn't important.
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Anonymous
>118703
A nobody. But yeah, Toph was being a total dick and I'm surprised Lin changed her tune on her so quickly just because she ate a tiny bit of humble pie towards the end.
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Anonymous
>118699
I'm OK with that, personally I'm in the small minority who would prefer it if Korra ultimately got with someone completey outside the cast whom she met later in life, if at all.
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Anonymous
>118706
I'm willing to bet who her father was hasn't actually bothered Lin for some time, but since she has seen Toph for 20 years and it had obviously left some other conflicts unresolved, combined with Bolin just randomly asking and getting an answer when Lin never could just made things boil over.

Also, clip for the next episode is up:
http://dongbufeng.tumblr.com/post/104466293458/preview-clip-from-episode-11-of-book-4-kuviras

Kuvira's pretty much doing what we were all thinking.
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Anonymous
Well that was expected.
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Anonymous
>118709
Kuvira continues to disappoint, as usual.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118712
>http://dongbufeng.tumblr.com/post/104466293458/preview-clip-from-episode-11-of-book-4-kuviras

In what way? This is the most logical and obvious extension of 'unite the earth empire' rhetoric. Of course she wants the land Republic City is sitting on. Just like Germany wanted the rhineland.
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Anonymous
>118709

Huh, her and Bataar finally get a coupley moment. :) Although I will admit that this is the first time we've seen them in private, so...
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>118714
It actually looks like she cares for him. Kinda sad then if she ends up dead.
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Seeing all those crazy things Kuvira was whipping out of her suit. I really want to see a Metal Bending Batman. I'd put them in Fire Nation since their cable soaring would be a bit more unique there.
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>118716
I actually had a half-formed AU idea where Kuvira was in the series from the start as a sort of reverse Zuko figure who had run away from Zaofu earlier on and had ended up in Republic City, and I thought that she would either be a member of Lin's police force or an anti-Equalist vigilante.
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Anonymous
>118717
Vigilante have her be the first person Korra runs into alternatively. Asami is her tech specialist. Maybe Toss in that Sokka was actually Wolf Batman for a time when the city was stabilizing and he thought Toph's fledgling Metal Academy/Police forces were insufficient.
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>118716
>I really want to see a Metal Bending Batman.
dear god i hope this universe lives on after they're done with the show and comics.
because i really want to see that.
a mysterious vigilante in the avatar world who isn't the avatar.
dang.
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>118688
Um hi, hello? I'd like to respond now. Because I'm still seeing some glaring issues here despite your attempts to cover them up.

>No, because whenever you've seen Earthbenders move earth at a distance, they've had contact with the ground.
This isn't true, though. As far back as Bumi, we've seen earth benders be able to lift rocks when in the air, or bend while falling down before hitting the ground. The Boulder did so in his fight. Toph has done so as well, where she'll jump in the air and counter by tossing rock still in the air. Aang was flying around and tossing mountains at Ozai. Korra has done this numerous times, too. Not to mention when she goes into her floating Avatar form up in the air and still bends earth (and even if you explain this away by saying it's the Avatar state, she's still done it out of it, too.) My biggest proof is still Ghazan's imprisonment. Hell, Haru and the captured earth benders back in season 1 of ATLA were under tighter constraints than the metal bending master-leader of Zaofu.

>Probably was hoping it would blow before they found the problem. And no opportunity to dispose of it securely.
Bataar Jr.'s own words were, "it can cause it explode." A probability of explosion is not the same as a guarantee. Especially when you consider the only thing that happened was smoke come out of the machine and a halt. And am I really to believe Zhu Li waited until the very last second, right when Kuvira was by her, to pull a vital pin from the machine? She had no contact with it whatsoever beforehand? No matter how you try to explain this away, it's really sloppy on her part. Same as the reason for the entire Beifong family being in a box together, Zhu Li did an idiotic, nonsensical thing simply to move the plot along, because they needed some extra tension and Opal/Bolin away from the action.

As of now you will only receive half of a pizza roll. I will also include pictures of my cat in the package, for your valiant efforts trying to defend this episode. Give me your home address, you can expect your pizza roll and cat pictures in about a week.
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>118720
Like clockwork.
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Anonymous
>118691
Korrasami ain't a crackship bro. Not that it excuses anything, or their bizarre continued Mako hateboner.
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>118721
Perfection has no age, Cooper.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118720

In season three of ATLA, Toph was successfully restrained by being placed in a wooden cage all of two feet off of the ground. Unless you can point to an example of a non-Avatar State earthbender manipulating rock at the distance of like thirty feet without having any contact with the ground or some other earthy medium, your point is ridiculous.

Also, the 'metal platform in the ocean' you're holding up as an examplar of security would be comically ineffective at restraining a family of metalbenders.

>Bataar Jr.'s own words were, "it can cause it explode." A probability of explosion is not the same as a guarantee.

An explosion would have meant the destruction of the cannon, the death of the only person who knew how to construct it, and the death of Kuvira. Even if it's not a guarantee, it's a pretty good basis for a gamble.

>And am I really to believe Zhu Li waited until the very last second, right when Kuvira was by her, to pull a vital pin from the machine? She had no contact with it whatsoever beforehand?

She would have had to wait until after the final safety checklist had been performed. That's a pretyt narrow time window, during which she's surrounded by a lot of suspicious guys.

You're not just nitpicking, you're not even good at nitpicking.
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Anonymous
>118702
How is this cannon going to help in conquering Republic City?

Republic City doesn't have giant stone walls like Omashu or Ba Sing Se so you don't need it to break through the city's defences.

This cannon can only go on train tracks so Kuvira is very limited in where she can move it to or where she can aim at. Especially if the cannon can't turn.

Even if the cannon could be aimed and fired repeatedly it would take thousands of shots to do any real damage to a city. Especially since this weapon vaporises everything over a long distance, rather than exploding in a small area. During this time Republic City's army would be able to attack and destroy the cannon.

Finally this cannon will be vulnerable to air attacks and can't even get near Republic City if the United Republic blows up enough train tracks.
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>118724
>In season three of ATLA, Toph was successfully restrained by being placed in a wooden cage all of two feet off of the ground.

It's possible that Toph couldn't bend the earth because she didn't know where it was. Something that wouldn't affect anyone who wasn't blind.

>An explosion would have meant the destruction of the cannon, the death of the only person who knew how to construct it, and the death of Kuvira. Even if it's not a guarantee, it's a pretty good basis for a gamble.

Along with the death of Zhu Li who was standing next to this cannon.

Also Bataar Jr. had several scientists and technicians so if any of them survived they could rebuild the cannon.

>She would have had to wait until after the final safety checklist had been performed. That's a pretyt narrow time window, during which she's surrounded by a lot of suspicious guys.

Suspicious guys who didn't realise that someone was sabotaging this machine. Bataar Jr. though the part he found earlier had broken, he didn't know someone deliberately broke it. Also Zhu Li could simply have replaced a working pin with a faulty one, which would make it harder to realise what was broken.

>You're not just nitpicking, you're not even good at nitpicking.

And you're not good at explaining things.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118728

>It's possible that Toph couldn't bend the earth because she didn't know where it was. Something that wouldn't affect anyone who wasn't blind.

Excuse me while I fall over laughing.
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>118727
>How is this cannon going to help in conquering Republic City?

Give us the land or we'll destroy everything.
Here's a pen and paper.
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>118728

>It's possible that Toph couldn't bend the earth because she didn't know where it was. Something that wouldn't affect anyone who wasn't blind.
Grasping at straws so hard.
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>118724
>In season three of ATLA, Toph was successfully restrained by being placed in a wooden cage all of two feet off of the ground.

This is a valid point and true. Which still doesn't refute any of my other examples. It just points at a fault with the writing team and inconsistencies with earth bending in general. My point from the start.

Also please don't accuse me of being nitpicky and in the same breath defend Zhu Li with your claims of "checklists" and other arbitrary headcanons you make up on the spot. It makes you look like a hypocrite. Thanks!
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118735

It's not an inconsistency, you're just not good at paying attention and pattern recognition.

Also you're aping a pretty amusing routine that becomes the epitome of unfunnyness when it's applied to something that is not only not from the same movie, but not even from a Star Trek series at all.
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Sharkman Jhones
>118735

I'm gonna go ahead and just level a one-day ban on this. I really hate doing so, but being willfully ignorant of easy to grasp concepts and other such things is getting really annoying.
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Anonymous
>118729
Laugh all you want but the point remain valid.

>118730
>Give us the land or we'll destroy everything.

How are you going to destroy everything with a cannon that can only be transported by railway tracks and can only be aimed in the direction these tracks are facing? Make sure you answer explains what the Earth Empire will do if Republic City sabotages these railway tracks, preventing the cannon getting to Republic City.

>118731

Given your failure to rebut this claim it seems that it shows how wrong your argument is.

>118736

>It's not an inconsistency, you're just not good at paying attention and pattern recognition.

There is a pattern of Toph having problems with things she can't see, for example she was unable to dodge the belt Sokka threw at her.

>118737
>I'm gonna go ahead and just level a one-day ban on this. I really hate doing so, but being willfully ignorant of easy to grasp concepts and other such things is getting really annoying.

It's not exactly mature to ban people because you can't rebut their arguments. Please explain why he's being 'willfully ignorant of easy to grasp concepts' so that other people won't do this in the future.

Banning people for vague reasons just creates more problems than it solves. Especially when they're making valid points about the plot holes and inconsistencies in the show, while other people who being abusive are not being banned.
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>118738
Re: the cannon thing, we don't actually know if that's THE colossus.
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>118738
>Make sure you answer explains what the Earth Empire will do if Republic City sabotages these railway tracks, preventing the cannon getting to Republic City.

Rebuild the railroad track. The answer to this question is so obvious it staggers the imagination that you are even asking it.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118738

Toph knows where the ground is. The ground is DOWN. If there was any question about how far it was she could have just asked Katara.

People are laughing at you instead of trying to rebut you because nothing you say makes any sense.
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that one Star Trek guy
>118737
>doesn't agree with me
>bans me for being "willfully ignorant" and "shitposting" when I've done nothing but bring up valid points

This is hands down one of the most shit boards around and it's because of stuff like this. You can't argue a different point, you can't disagree, you can't say you don't like something, you can't bring up topics that may "upset" people -- the list is long. If you're not constantly praising this show's every fart, you're not welcome here.

I don't know who made you a mod, but you're a fucking joke. And you can go ahead and ban me again, THIS is a real reason to ban someone.
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Daniel FUCKING Murphy, Hitting Machine
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Allow me to interrupt your banal shitposting to share the urgent news that the Series Finale is in the can.

We're all gonna die.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>118743
Cool now we'll maybe find out what that Dialog Bolin's VA was doing, along with the Korra and Asami stuff..derf derf derf. Pretty nuts they aren't Part 1 and 2.
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Anonymous
>118746
Bolin still has more dialogue? Damn, when are we going to get to other characters or even the other main characters who we still don't know about? Bolin's been shoved in our faces ever since Book 2 in place of Mako.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>118747
They had a thing about their last recoding session with him about a week or so back. He's been the only one I've seen them talk about recording more lines other than Varney and Seychelle
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Daniel FUCKING Murphy, Hitting Machine
>118748

Byrne coming back in so late means those are most likely retakes or additional grunts and groans for his action scenes.
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BunkerOFOzVPOG0g
>118749
Get that death scream as he gets vaped by the cannon just right.
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Anonymous
>118740

Rebuilding these tracks will take a long time, and unless the cannon and all the people fixing these tracks are well protected they're very vulnerable to attacks (mainly because Republic City will know exactly where Kuvira's army is going to get stuck). So unless Kuvira orders the rest of the army to halt while the cannon can't move this cannon won't be able to get to any of the battles.

You also ignored the first part of my question regarding how this cannon was going to be a threat to Republic City given that its movement and where it can attack is so limited.

>118741
>Toph knows where the ground is. The ground is DOWN.

Hey you know what else is down, the wooden cage. You know the thing Toph can't bend.

>If there was any question about how far it was she could have just asked Katara.

My point was that since Toph is blind she's only learned how to bend the ground when she's in contact with it, unlike other earthbender who can bend the ground when they're in contact with it or when they can see it. Thus telling Toph where the ground is won't work.

>People are laughing at you instead of trying to rebut you because nothing you say makes any sense.

No they're laughing at me because they lack the ability to rebut any of my claims.
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Sharkman Jhones
>118751

The ban was for the holy-than-thou attitude. You didn't come here because you were confused about something or wondered if anybody else thought of the same thing you did, every time you show up, it's always phrases as "this is a massive flaw and the show sucks, refute me if you dare, but you can't."

That, or points you bring up as "flaws" are addressed in later episodes.

But fine, let's indulge in this again.

>telling Toph where the ground is won't work.

People have inner ears. You don't lose those when you go blind, you can tell up from down. More to the point, off the top of my head and a quick check of screenshots of the Boulder, I can't recall any specific instance of long-distance Earthbending from anybody besides King Bumi or The Avatar.

Toph being trapped in a simple wooden cage? She probably could have escaped if she absolutely tried, maybe, but the building she was in had wooden floors to go with the wooden cage, and with enough of a distance to any earth, she was probably pretty screwed until help came, since she was planning on escaping via metalbending.

The wooden cage in a cave vs. Ghazan's wooden cage in the sea? The meta reason is probably just to differentiate his prison from Ming Hua's. A feasabile in-universe reason? Well, we never see him metalbend, so metal structures were fine, but in a hypothetical scenario of Ghazan escaping on his own, it's safer to have him far away from any civilization or any structure which is build on the ground, because he could just collapse the whole thing.

A big rig in the middle of the ocean means he can't escape on his own power, can't bring down the entire thing on everybody's heads, and is far away from both ample sources of earth and civilians.

All the crap about the spirit-cannon, though? We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe it can change up to not need railroad tracks? We don't know, it hasn't been shown yet.
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DudeWithMoneySFwR6DnH/Y
>118751

>Hey you know what else is down, the wooden cage. You know the thing Toph can't bend.

You see, this kind of shit is exactly why people think you're a disingenuous shitposter.

>blind she's only learned how to bend the ground when she's in contact with it, unlike other earthbender who can bend the ground when they're in contact with it or when they can see it. Thus telling Toph where the ground is won't work.

And your basis for this conclusion is WHAT?
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Anonymous
>118742
This fandom has always been super immature both attacking and defending the series. As for the mods, I guess they're still traumatized from the old site days. They're trying so hard to run away from and not be like /co/ that it hurts.
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Anonymous
>118752
1) You didn't ban me you banned 'that one Star Trek guy'. That's why my name is anonymous.

2) So having a holy-than-thou attitude is bannible but being abusive is fine? I'd say 'that one Star Trek guy' made a more valid contribution than these posters, who are abusive for the sake of being abusive.

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>118721
>118729
>118731

3) This isn't a 'post here if you're confused about something or wondered if anybody else thought of the same thing you did' thread; it's a discussion thread about an episode.

Pointing out flaws in an episode is a normal part of a discussion. The fact that you interpret any criticism as "this is a massive flaw and the show sucks, refute me if you dare, but you can't" doesn't change the fact that the show has flaws and I'm not wrong to highlight these flaws.

4) "That, or points you bring up as "flaws" are addressed in later episodes."

How exactly do you know this? Unless you've seen the entire series you won't know what will or won't be addressed. If also doesn't change the fact that part of the plot us confusing.

The rest of your post contained several valid points about bending throughout the series which is supported by evidence. This is the type of post we need more of.

>118753
>You see, this kind of shit is exactly why people think you're a disingenuous shitposter.

Your comments weren't any more polite.

>And your basis for this conclusion is WHAT?

Bumi could earthbend things he could see even when he's not in contact with the earth; this was how he escaped the metal cage he was trapped in. Thus there is evidence that earthbenders can earthbend something they can see but can't touch.

Also in season 1 Katara also said that she had trouble bending water she couldn't see, so there is evidence that some types of bending are more difficult if you can't see what you're bending.
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Sharkman Jhones
>118765

>How exactly do you know this? Unless you've seen the entire series you won't know what will or won't be addressed. If also doesn't change the fact that part of the plot us confusing.

I don't. Whether you're the one who said that Kuvira's plan was dumb because the rail cannon lacked mobility or not, it was directly addressed in this episode. I don't know if you're the same one as before, but this isn't the first time somebody here complained about something only for it to be openly addressed by the characters and/or the plot. My point was that it doesn't hurt to just wait and see.

>Bumi could earthbend things he could see even when he's not in contact with the earth; this was how he escaped the metal cage he was trapped in.

King Bumi is the only Earthbender I can remember ever being able to do that. A king and master of Earthbending who was over a century old. That doesn't mean everybody can do it, just that it's possible. That cage that the Beifong family was trapped in had a lot of distance between themselves, the cavern around them, and it was a hell of a long drop if they missed. Maybe it was just outside their abilities, or their focus on Metalbending styles means less raw power in the absolute basics.
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Anonymous
>118774
So you ban people not even knowing if they're the ones that have been posting the stuff you happen to not like. Got it.
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Anonymous
>Bumi could earthbend things he could see even when he's not in contact with the earth; this was how he escaped the metal cage he was trapped in.

The metal cage. Metal. You know, the stuff earthbenders actually can move if they know what they're doing. And which is also a famously good conductor of energy. Even if you can't move the metal itself it's far from unlikely that earthbending can carry through it like it does the ground.

What was impressive about Bumi isn't the metal of the cage, it's that he could do all that with nothing but his face.
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Anonymous
>118774
Actually, the guy complaining about the rail cannon was me, and I can absolutely confirm that I am not the person you are talking to. FYI, I also think that the giant robot is dumb from a practicality standpoint, but I can think of a compelling in-universe reason for it...

>Baatar Jnr: "I was going to mount the weapon on a giant airship, but you should have seen the way she reacted when I brought up the giant mech-suit idea. I usually only get that treatment on my birthday!"
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Anonymous
>118776
>The metal cage. Metal. You know, the stuff earthbenders actually can move if they know what they're doing.

Bumi wasn't shown metal bending, he escaped using earthbending.

>And which is also a famously good conductor of energy.

Metal conducts electricity not energy.

>Even if you can't move the metal itself it's far from unlikely that earthbending can carry through it like it does the ground.

The metal cage wasn't in contact with the ground, it was suspended. Also Bumi moved earth that wasn't in contact with the cage.
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